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| 00:16.38 | qop | sputnick: treeview where? systemsettings > Oxygen > View > Tree branch ? or what hussam said |
| 00:17.01 | qop | ... I am having some problems with ca and kde apps. "The server failed the authenticity check" on any secured connectio this is, like in kmail or kopete etc... I have reinstalled the qca and even compiled my own but nothing. an yes, the certificates are valid :) Ideas? |
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| 00:19.11 | Kaapa | hello there. What's the shortcut to swap through the windows of a group? |
| 00:20.01 | qop | Kaapa: alt tab? |
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| 00:20.18 | Kaapa | that's for windows on the same desktop |
| 00:20.25 | Kaapa | within grouped windows |
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| 01:13.53 | alip | does kopete support webcam for msn? |
| 01:14.11 | Mase_wk | alip: do you have a webcam ? |
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| 01:15.38 | alip | Mase_wk: yep it works using e.g. mplayer tv:// |
| 01:16.49 | Mase_wk | alip: perhaps the quickest route would be to try it and see |
| 01:16.49 | alip | a small one on the top of the screen of my laptop |
| 01:17.29 | alip | Mase_wk: well yes, I can see it under preferences of kopete but I don't know how to enable it during chatting |
| 01:17.44 | alip | I can set it options like brightness etc. |
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| 01:19.12 | Mase_wk | unfortunately i don't have a webcam or an msn account, so i can't really help you. but asking a vague question instead of a specific one is unlikely to give you the result you desire. at least now other people in the channel who do have a webcam / msn account will be able to tell you how to do what you want if they know |
| 01:19.50 | alip | Mase_wk: indeed, thanks for your help in that regard |
| 01:20.07 | alip | I'll be googling further in the meantime |
| 01:21.38 | Mase_wk | also which version of KDE / kopete are you using ? |
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| 01:24.28 | alip | kdenetwork-4.6.1 |
| 01:24.38 | alip | that's the package which has kopete as it seems |
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| 01:30.05 | alip | looks like a bug http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=195228 |
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| 01:31.47 | Mase_wk | yup |
| 01:32.39 | sri13 | Hi, I want the implementation of kabstractfilewidget.h file. where can I find that ? |
| 01:32.40 | Mase_wk | doesn't look like there is anyone working to implement it though |
| 01:35.38 | lcafiero | This is a little odd: I have 4.6.1 on Fedora 15 alpha and every once in awhile I get a very small icon with a monitor screen on the left and a set of gauge bars on the right. Each time it comes up, it's at a different level. |
| 01:35.50 | lcafiero | It's not hindering anything, really, but it's a little strange. |
| 01:36.30 | lcafiero | the icon and bars are in the lower third of the center of the screen. |
| 01:38.03 | lcafiero | It's somewhat instantaneous and lasts about a second and comes and goes, so a screen shot isn't likely. |
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| 01:55.49 | Kaapa | do I need to add any specific widget to the panel? |
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| 03:57.20 | diegoviola | hi |
| 03:57.23 | diegoviola | would a minimal kde vs openbox make much of a difference when it comes to battery life on a laptop? |
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| 04:07.50 | diegoviola | anyone? |
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| 04:11.13 | hoshi411 | im new to kde and wanted to know what your favorite kde independent application was? |
| 04:12.26 | food_ | hoshi411: that is a vague question, since a destop enviroment is all about the combined experience, but is say i love konqueror |
| 04:13.09 | hoshi411 | food: for example. If someone asked me,"what is your favorite gnome/gtk application" hands down I would say inkscape or gimp |
| 04:13.10 | food_ | hoshi411: let me rephrase that I mean there cant be a favorate app |
| 04:14.01 | food_ | I mean there a favorate app for a particular situation |
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| 04:14.18 | hoshi411 | food: inkscape and gimp are just great applications that run on gtk/gnome SO what I mean is what is a great like popular app that runs on Qt/kde |
| 04:15.16 | hoshi411 | gimp and inkscape are gtk independent which means that there is no counterpart in the kde world. So I am looking for a kde/Qt application that has no counterpart in the gtk world? |
| 04:17.10 | food_ | krista is a gimp counter part in a way, but i am not sure about the function can compete with gimp |
| 04:17.32 | food_ | i believe kde/qt dont have vector graphic editor |
| 04:18.05 | diegoviola | anyone please? |
| 04:18.08 | leo_rockway | food_: Karbon |
| 04:18.10 | food_ | nevermind kde has karbon14 |
| 04:18.35 | food_ | leo_rockway? |
| 04:19.26 | leo_rockway | food_: you said there wasn't a vector graphic editor, I said Karbon... |
| 04:19.41 | food_ | leo_rockway: oh nevermind |
| 04:20.46 | leo_rockway | and then there's Krita, yes. I got used to GIMP, but Krita is good too. |
| 04:20.59 | leo_rockway | I haven't heard many good things about Karbon |
| 04:21.06 | hoshi411 | kde doesn't have like a "kde child" or something that's like "yeah, rockin' ! this is the fershizl kde app!" or something like that? |
| 04:22.03 | food_ | k3b one of the best dvd cd burner software avaiable |
| 04:23.02 | leo_rockway | hoshi411: Amarok used to be the one most people cared about. With the passage to version 2, some people thought that 1.4 was better. |
| 04:23.05 | leo_rockway | k3b is amazing. |
| 04:23.38 | hoshi411 | really? : D ok I might try it out |
| 04:23.59 | leo_rockway | well, all it does is burn CDs and DVDs, but it does it really well. It's the most complete app in that sense. |
| 04:24.15 | food_ | hosti411: konqueror is nice with it functionality, but the problem is with its redering engine |
| 04:24.39 | leo_rockway | food_: it comes with WebKit now. I really support KHTML, though. |
| 04:24.44 | food_ | i love konquere but frikin a i wish it was better compatatible |
| 04:24.48 | hoshi411 | hmm. amarok. I see. OK thanks. |
| 04:24.55 | food_ | still i kidda like khtml |
| 04:26.33 | hoshi411 | hmm. I wonder if kde has more of a trend towards music software? |
| 04:26.48 | hoshi411 | like music recording and composition |
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| 04:34.54 | mosno | is it just me, or is it hard to visualy distinguish the active window whe using oxygen? |
| 04:34.57 | mosno | when* |
| 04:35.13 | mosno | there's a tiny blue border, and the title bar text goes a bit darker, but that's it |
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| 04:39.00 | food_ | mosno: nope i never had problems distinguish windows, unless you open multiple unmaximized windows which will confuse any desktoip enviroment |
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| 04:40.27 | mosno | food_: most other desktop environments (and also most other kde window decorations) handle that by having the active window title a markedly different colour. anyway, i've set "outline active window title" for Oxygen, which helps |
| 04:42.41 | food_ | mosno: oh you are dependent on that title bar highlight, then of course, oxygen may have problems for you |
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| 05:04.44 | James147 | mosno: you can always changes the active/inactive colors for basically everything in the window :) |
| 05:05.04 | mosno | James147: but i'm lazy ;) |
| 05:05.12 | mosno | James147: the above fix worked fine |
| 05:05.28 | James147 | mosno: :) you only really need to change one or two :) |
| 05:05.46 | mosno | for such far-out crazy people like me that use >1 unmaximised app |
| 05:05.51 | mosno | i know, pretty hardcore |
| 05:06.41 | James147 | mosno: I use many windows unmaximised :) never really had a problem... though i have focus folows mouse and tend to know where my mouse is |
| 05:07.07 | mosno | James147: fair enough |
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| 06:43.49 | SudoGhost | Forgive me if this is an obvious answer, but I'm using (i'm assuming the latest KDE) on Arch Linux, and I'm having problem with write access to external hard drives. USB sticks work fine, and on my GNOME user it will read/write without issue, so I don't believe it's Arch Linux. Is there something I'm overlooking? |
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| 06:47.00 | Mase_wk | SudoGhost: so what problem are you having with write access to external drives ? |
| 06:47.19 | Mase_wk | also which version of kde are you using ? Hellp->about kde |
| 06:47.59 | SudoGhost | KDE 4.6.2 |
| 06:48.31 | SudoGhost | I'm not able to gain write access to external hard drives. I can see them fine, and with USB devices I'm able to read and write |
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| 06:51.46 | Mase_wk | SudoGhost: and your saying it works in gnome on the same system ? |
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| 06:52.06 | SudoGhost | Mase_wk: Yes |
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| 06:54.35 | SudoGhost | Mase_wk: I don't have a whole lot of experience with /etc/fstab, but I tried adding it with the rw option and that also did nothing |
| 06:55.24 | SudoGhost | and 'defaults' as well |
| 06:55.40 | Mase_wk | as the same user? |
| 06:56.03 | SudoGhost | Mase_wk: yes |
| 06:56.03 | Mase_wk | hmm ok |
| 06:56.06 | Mase_wk | no idea then |
| 06:56.23 | SudoGhost | Mase_wk: Is there perhaps something in KDE that's overriding /etc/fstab? |
| 06:56.43 | Mase_wk | no |
| 06:56.50 | Mase_wk | if it's mounted via the mount command |
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| 06:56.54 | Mase_wk | or via fstab on boot |
| 06:56.56 | Mase_wk | then no |
| 06:57.00 | Mase_wk | nothing will override that |
| 06:57.13 | Zbuben | instead of a driver or kernel limitation |
| 06:57.39 | Zbuben | once upon a time, a ntfs driver was only read-only capable |
| 06:57.42 | Mase_wk | SudoGhost: can you copy files from the command line to it ? |
| 06:57.42 | Zbuben | ( oops ) |
| 06:58.36 | SudoGhost | Mase_wk: What do you mean? |
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| 06:59.14 | Mase_wk | SudoGhost: from bash can you cp somefile /mnt/myexternaldrive/ |
| 06:59.26 | SudoGhost | oh, let me try |
| 06:59.36 | Mase_wk | obviously substitute in the appropriate values |
| 07:01.32 | SudoGhost | Mase_wk: No, not as a regular user or with sudo |
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| 07:03.00 | Mase_wk | SudoGhost: well then it's not a KDE issue. |
| 07:03.33 | Mase_wk | how are you mounting it ? |
| 07:03.35 | SudoGhost | hmm, that's odd. Okay, thank you. Sorry, I thought for sure it was something with KDE... |
| 07:04.08 | Mase_wk | that's fine. i can still try and help |
| 07:04.34 | Mase_wk | is this external hard disk USB or eSATA and how are you mounting it ? |
| 07:04.53 | SudoGhost | USB |
| 07:05.27 | SudoGhost | I've tried mounting via the cli, and also through the KDE tray thing |
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| 07:07.41 | Mase_wk | ok and how do you mount it under gnome ? |
| 07:07.50 | SudoGhost | Through nautilus |
| 07:08.22 | Mase_wk | ok so lets try this, unmount the disk |
| 07:08.39 | Mase_wk | then when you sure it's not mounted |
| 07:08.46 | Mase_wk | launch nautilus |
| 07:08.54 | Mase_wk | and mount it through nautilus |
| 07:09.17 | Mase_wk | then try copying the exact same file you tried to copy via the command line , through nautilus |
| 07:09.22 | Mase_wk | to the same place on the disk |
| 07:09.34 | SudoGhost | ok, i'll have to log out to do that |
| 07:09.42 | thiago_home | why? |
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| 07:10.12 | SudoGhost | ...I had a brain fart. |
| 07:10.22 | SudoGhost | nautilus!=gnome |
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| 07:12.46 | SudoGhost | read only |
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| 07:15.35 | thiago_home | is it NTFS? |
| 07:16.03 | SudoGhost | yes |
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| 07:16.21 | thiago_home | that's why |
| 07:16.39 | SudoGhost | What do you mean? |
| 07:16.45 | thiago_home | NTFS is read-only |
| 07:16.47 | icarus-c | you just need ntfs-3g |
| 07:17.03 | thiago_home | right. The automatic way is probably not using ntfs-3g |
| 07:17.09 | thiago_home | just the read-only original driver |
| 07:17.13 | icarus-c | instead of the ntfs driver in linux |
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| 07:17.25 | icarus-c | i dont see why using ntfs-3g make it less automatic |
| 07:18.25 | SudoGhost | that's odd |
| 07:18.28 | SudoGhost | error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) |
| 07:18.28 | SudoGhost | ntfs-3g: /sbin/mount.ntfs exists in filesystem |
| 07:19.02 | SudoGhost | this is what happened when i tried sudo pacman -S ntfs-3g |
| 07:19.13 | icarus-c | pacman -Qo /sbin/mount.ntfs |
| 07:19.49 | SudoGhost | error: No package owns /sbin/mount.ntfs |
| 07:20.14 | icarus-c | looks like you messed up your system a bit. say did make install without using package |
| 07:20.44 | icarus-c | but i suppose you could overwrite it. so pacman -Sf ntfs-3g |
| 07:21.30 | SudoGhost | that worked |
| 07:21.31 | SudoGhost | :) |
| 07:21.37 | SudoGhost | sweet! thank you |
| 07:22.35 | icarus-c | SudoGhost: i hope you you understand what -f does: -f , --force Bypass file conflict checks and overwrite conflicting files. |
| 07:23.16 | SudoGhost | icarus-c: Yes, but i've never used it because it seems like it could cause problems. But in this case it fixed one |
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| 07:54.51 | rindolf | Hi all. I'm on Mandriva Linux Cooker on a P4 machine, and I have an old installation of KDE 4 - now at kdebase4-workspace-4.6.2-1-mdv2011.0.i586 . But now I don't have the panel at all. What can I do? |
| 07:55.51 | valorie | right-click on the desktop and add panel |
| 07:56.31 | rindolf | valorie: there is no "Add Panel" in the context menu. |
| 07:56.47 | valorie | hmmm |
| 07:56.51 | valorie | is there a cashew? |
| 07:57.06 | rindolf | valorie: no, there is not. |
| 07:57.17 | valorie | hmmmm |
| 07:57.52 | rindolf | And I had to kill some knotify/etc. processes that hogged the CPU. |
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| 07:59.06 | valorie | sounds like plasma crashed or was killed |
| 07:59.16 | rindolf | valorie: maybe. |
| 07:59.20 | rindolf | valorie: how do I start it? |
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| 07:59.49 | rindolf | valorie: I have a panel in a new UNIX user account. |
| 07:59.54 | valorie | I don't know -- when it crashes on me, it restarts by itself |
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| 08:00.10 | rindolf | shlomif:~$ plasma-desktop |
| 08:00.10 | rindolf | Invalid D-BUS interface name 'org.kde.plasma-desktop.PlasmaApp' found while parsing introspection |
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| 08:08.14 | rindolf | Anyone? |
| 08:08.23 | rindolf | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205354 - I found this. |
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| 08:20.02 | Exilant | can i somehow have smaller icons in the systray? or force it to be 2-row, like the taskbar? |
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| 08:32.45 | valorie | if you click the cashew, and then make the panel shorter, the icons will shrink |
| 08:33.08 | valorie | raise it, and they will smoothly get larger |
| 08:37.28 | rindolf | Now how can I change the wallpaper? |
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| 08:37.46 | rindolf | The context menu of the desktop says "Unknown Settings" |
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| 08:46.12 | valorie | oh, I think you just right-click on the desktop |
| 08:46.41 | valorie | or systemsettings > desktop settings |
| 08:46.58 | valorie | I have a custom folder of photos as a slideshow |
| 08:50.39 | rindolf | valorie: I don't see a Desktop Settings in systemsettings. |
| 08:50.57 | rindolf | valorie: it's not there anywhere. |
| 08:52.02 | rindolf | OK, I'm installing task-kde4 ( not task-kde4-minimal ). |
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| 08:52.11 | rindolf | I'll start from there and see if it fixes anything. |
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| 08:57.18 | celthunder | anyone know how to turn off tapping the touchpad to click |
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| 08:59.29 | rindolf | celthunder: I think it's an X thing. |
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| 09:01.37 | valorie | hmm, it's right near the bottom of my context menu |
| 09:01.39 | celthunder | rindolf, :/ yeah i know i could make an xorg config to turn it off but it wasn't doing it in any other DE i used so....figured must be an option in kde too |
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| 09:18.37 | Kaapa | hello - anyone with 2 monitors able to make the taskbar 100% width? |
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| 09:24.29 | rindolf | Hi all. |
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| 09:24.58 | rindolf | valorie: thanks! I solved the desktop background problem after I installed all of task-kde4 and then restarted KDE. |
| 09:25.19 | rindolf | valorie: now I have a nice photo of a ragdoll cat as my background. |
| 09:26.18 | Exilant | Kaapa: works without problems in 4.6.2 |
| 09:26.52 | Exilant | at least here |
| 09:27.09 | Kaapa | Exilant: ok, thanks |
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| 09:49.51 | Kaapa | got it working now |
| 09:50.06 | Kaapa | another question - what's the "Window to next desktop" supposed to do? |
| 09:50.14 | Kaapa | I can't get it working the way I want |
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| 09:51.07 | wanne | Hi |
| 09:51.49 | wanne | I hava a question: Is it possible to use KMail with a proxy? |
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| 09:55.56 | Exilant | wanne: probably not, proxies are mainly for http, not password-protected mailboxes |
| 09:56.29 | wanne | I like to use a SOCKS Proxy |
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| 10:03.43 | wanne | It's because SMTP is blocked here. So I would like to use my proxy at home. |
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| 10:04.37 | Exilant | a private proxy, no idea then |
| 10:04.56 | Exilant | ssh port forwarding might work, though |
| 10:05.10 | Exilant | so maybe also a proxy |
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| 10:07.19 | wanne | Exilant: haven't got ssh acces. |
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| 10:17.42 | Kaapa | guys, how do I add konsole profiles? |
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| 10:19.14 | Kaapa | found it |
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| 10:24.38 | Exilant | you can run vpn or ssh on any port |
| 10:25.13 | Alexis1234Ceid | heeeeeeeeeeeeeelp |
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| 10:28.18 | wanne | Alexis1234Ceid: ? |
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| 10:30.49 | Alexis1234Ceid | i want to register in #python |
| 10:31.00 | Alexis1234Ceid | i don't understand how to do that |
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| 10:32.50 | icarus-c | Alexis1234Ceid: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration |
| 10:33.06 | wanne | Alexis1234Ceid: You can join the channel without a password |
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| 10:37.52 | wanne | Alexis1234Ceid: Do you want a reserved nickname or do you only want in this channel? |
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| 10:46.51 | Kaapa | what's the correct way to define startup apps? |
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| 10:47.02 | Kaapa | manually creating the links in ~/.kde/Autostart? |
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| 10:47.20 | cb400f | that or using systemsettings -> startup and shutdown -> autostart |
| 10:47.31 | cb400f | which does the same thing |
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| 10:48.07 | Exilant | Kaapa: depends on what you want to do, there's also the restore manually saved session, if that is what you want |
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| 10:49.17 | Kaapa | Exilant: no, I'd like to define some stuff to start at login, like yakuake, wicd-client, that kind |
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| 10:50.40 | cb400f | session management should do it.. if the stuff is running on shutdown |
| 10:51.04 | cb400f | and session management is set to restore stuff (default) |
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| 12:25.41 | djszapi | Is there any channel for kde UI design ? ( there is no people on the #kde-look from here: http://userbase.kde.org/IRC_Channels ). I wonder where I could get help, suggestions about UI design questions. There is also an #oxygen channel, but that is oxygen specific I guess. |
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| 12:32.09 | Sho_ | djszapi: there used to be #kde-usability and #openusability |
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| 12:34.10 | djszapi | thanks. |
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| 12:41.09 | wodim | is it possible to center the position of a toolbar? |
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| 12:41.42 | Stormcrow | Running FreeBSD 8.1/KDE 4.5. I love to edit files with kate, especially on remote servers. I have dolphin accessing a remote machine via fish://. Normally I would right click on a file I want to edit, then explicitly tell it to run it with kate. I wised up and decided to add a file association for .ini, .cfg, and .conf, and tell it to use kate. This did not work as I hoped it would. When I launch a file this way, I see a process number next to the filena |
| 12:42.04 | Stormcrow | Seems I'm editing the file locally. If I save it, the file doesn't get saved on a remote server at all. What am I doing wrong? |
| 12:43.08 | Stormcrow | wodim, do you mean a panel? |
| 12:43.28 | wodim | no, I mean a toolbar. |
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| 12:45.24 | Stormcrow | Clever, that! :) |
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| 12:51.13 | wodim | Stormcrow: what the hell? |
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| 12:52.50 | Stormcrow | It's clever that by toolbar, you meant toolbar. I was just commenting on the fact that I asked a silly question. |
| 12:53.34 | Stormcrow | Anyway, I solved my issue. Good luck. Hopy your day improved. |
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| 13:04.11 | sputnick | thanks hussam qop, that was "expansible" button in the settings |
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| 13:52.16 | Ze_m | in where can be configured the entry 'Favorites' from menu in plasma panel? |
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| 13:54.25 | cb400f | .kde(4)/share/config/kickoffrc it seems |
| 13:54.52 | cb400f | ... prolly somewhat easier to clicky, clicky in the menu of course |
| 13:59.18 | Ze_m | cb400f: that doesnt exist |
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| 14:10.54 | Daskreech | Ze_m: You can just drag something there |
| 14:11.28 | Ze_m | drag ito where? im jus asking where configure the favorites entry from panel |
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| 14:13.17 | Daskreech | Oh sorry thought you meant the menu |
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| 14:48.46 | matisse | hi |
| 14:49.03 | matisse | kdm seems to ignore the settings made by "systemsettings" |
| 14:49.39 | matisse | those settings also can be found in /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc |
| 14:50.36 | matisse | PreselectedUser=None and UserList=True are ignored |
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| 14:50.58 | hussam | perhaps kdm needs to be restarted |
| 14:51.08 | matisse | often restarted |
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| 14:51.21 | hussam | :/ |
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| 15:19.17 | ahel | do you know what partition is better to format a 4gb usb that i will on tv. i don't remember if it was fat16 or fat32... |
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| 15:20.18 | James147 | ahel: why use fat 16? |
| 15:21.42 | ahel | dunno, it seems to me that television support usb only in fat file system, but don't remember if it was 16 or 32 |
| 15:22.13 | James147 | ahel: well, try 32 first ^^ from what I can see fat16 dosnt support 4 gigs :P |
| 15:22.20 | ahel | ahah |
| 15:22.22 | ahel | ty |
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| 16:29.19 | woodefec | hi there, I've got lots of plasmoids that will not run properly reporting some missing python libs. What is the package I should install (openSUSE 11.4 KDE 4.6.2) |
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| 16:30.43 | Sho_ | woodefec: quick googling uggests plasma-scriptengine-python |
| 16:30.48 | woodefec | http://paste.ubuntu.com/593200 - is that any from those listed here? |
| 16:31.14 | woodefec | searching |
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| 16:31.36 | woodefec | zypper se plasma-script* reports no packages found |
| 16:31.38 | Sho_ | no, but it might have been rolled into python-kdebase4 i guess |
| 16:31.48 | Sho_ | I'm not an openSUSE user I'm afraid |
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| 16:32.43 | Sho_ | Technically speaking support for plasmoids written in Python is implemented as a Plasma plugin called a script engine, which kde ships as part of kdebase and that most distros split out into an individual package |
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| 16:33.38 | Sho_ | but the package layout differs from distro to distro |
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| 16:33.58 | Sho_ | 'Python bindings for KDE 4 desktop shell' sounds right at least |
| 16:34.39 | woodefec | Sho_, what does it mean bindings, I have no idea... anyway installing it allong with python-kde4. I've done worse things to the KDE and it's still alive ;) thank you |
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| 16:35.11 | Sho_ | woodefec: A "binding" is glue code that bridges from one programming language to another. Plasma is written in C++, so the Python support is a "binding" |
| 16:35.37 | woodefec | so u think I would need to relogin to make the bindings work? |
| 16:35.42 | woodefec | let's see |
| 16:35.56 | Sho_ | shouldn't be necessary, it should pick it up at runtime |
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| 16:36.03 | Sho_ | you might have to re-add the plasmoids though |
| 16:36.33 | Sho_ | or you can restart Plasma without loggin in anew by running "kquitapp plasma-desktop" (this quits plasma, so your desktop and panel will vanish) and then "plasma-desktop" (to start it again) |
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| 16:36.52 | woodefec | some of tham work now, thank you once again |
| 16:37.06 | Sho_ | happy to help |
| 16:37.07 | woodefec | I'll paste this to my blog for suse noobs |
| 16:37.25 | woodefec | u know like noob2noob help |
| 16:37.46 | Sho_ | individual Python plasmoids might require other Python libraries to work, that's best learned on their respective websites or readme files or so |
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| 16:48.03 | Raven_work | This is my last attempt to get this problem solved before I switch back to gnome: why under kde does my xorg process take up so much cpu time? It does not matter if I have compositing turned on or off. I'm running the latest kde from the kubuntu 10.10 backports ppa. |
| 16:49.37 | annma | Raven_work: what video card? |
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| 16:50.20 | Raven_work | annma: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT215 [GeForce GT 240] (rev a2) |
| 16:50.23 | annma | and you can switch back to gnome without telling us |
| 16:50.45 | annma | did you ask in kbuntu channel is other people have the same problem? |
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| 16:50.49 | Raven_work | annma: I know. I really don't want to switch back to gnome, because I like KDE so much better. |
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| 16:51.07 | annma | so did this happen on previous KDE versions? |
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| 16:51.13 | Raven_work | Yes. |
| 16:51.23 | annma | with different drivers? |
| 16:51.33 | Raven_work | I've seen it on every version of kde4 on multiple computers. |
| 16:51.40 | Raven_work | All running nvidia, irrc. |
| 16:51.48 | annma | multiple computers with different video cards? |
| 16:51.50 | annma | ah |
| 16:52.01 | annma | but Ihad one PC with nvidia and no problem |
| 16:52.03 | Raven_work | Every time a new version of kde comes out, I try it to see if this has been fixed. |
| 16:52.20 | annma | did you try different distributions? |
| 16:52.26 | annma | live CDS or such? |
| 16:52.32 | Raven_work | I've tried debian and kubuntu. |
| 16:52.48 | woodefec | Raven_work, did U try the binary drivers from nvidia?? |
| 16:53.10 | Raven_work | woodefec: I think I am running those. Let me verify. |
| 16:53.19 | annma | and is there a bug report about it |
| 16:53.36 | woodefec | Raven_work, did u need to install them manualy as root from command line? |
| 16:54.57 | Raven_work | annma: In my googling, I have seen many bug reports that conflict with each other about the problem and similar problems. I was hoping someone would be able to steer me in the right direction before I file a bug report that is probably a dupe. |
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| 16:55.23 | Raven_work | woodefec: I am running the binary drivers. Kubuntu has a gui interface for installing them, but they are on my system. |
| 16:55.42 | woodefec | Raven, what version? |
| 16:55.49 | woodefec | Raven_work, I mean |
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| 16:56.20 | Raven_work | One second. |
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| 16:57.01 | Raven_work | woodefec: 260.19.06 |
| 16:57.35 | spm-Draget | I just installed kde 4.6.2 on my gentoo system. Ever since, the 'sleep' button on my laptop is handled actually, and my laptop hibernates. This is cool, but I need to know which part of KDE does this. powerdevil? khotkeys? Somewher ein libkde? ...? Can someone help me finding this out? |
| 16:57.45 | woodefec | Raven_work, this is OLD! |
| 16:58.02 | Raven_work | Updating, will be back in a sec. |
| 16:58.06 | woodefec | I was told to use the 270.x beta, wait I give u the link |
| 16:58.23 | woodefec | Raven_work, |
| 16:58.23 | woodefec | ok |
| 16:58.56 | Raven_work | 270.51? |
| 16:59.07 | ahel | i hate when they sell you tv with usb that support only certain file system, supporting only avi, no xdvd. f*ck 'em! |
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| 17:04.32 | spm-Draget | Does anyone know which component handles acpi events like the sleep-button-press? |
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| 17:07.36 | ahel | spm-Draget: trying asking on #kde-devel |
| 17:10.00 | spm-Draget | Will try, thanks |
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| 17:12.18 | Raven_work | annma: the #kubuntu channel is completely silent. I've asked there many times. |
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| 17:53.09 | vladimiroff | huh....Konsole's keyboard shortcuts are not in system settings |
| 17:53.28 | vladimiroff | and I can't find how to remap the suspend->resume shortcuts in konsole(Ctrl+S -> Ctrl+Q) |
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| 17:58.58 | luke123 | how can i delete more than one element in korganizer at once? |
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| 18:01.03 | vladimiroff | luke123: you mean some repeated event or multiple events in different days...for example? |
| 18:03.39 | luke123 | vladimiroff, i mean multiple different events on the same/different days |
| 18:03.55 | vladimiroff | Ctrl + clicking on each event should work fine as well |
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| 18:04.07 | vladimiroff | followed by Del button, of course |
| 18:04.23 | luke123 | ok |
| 18:05.43 | luke123 | sorry that doesnt work.... |
| 18:06.00 | luke123 | i can only mark one event at a time |
| 18:06.27 | luke123 | im using kontact 4.4.7 |
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| 18:10.30 | luke123 | is there noone who knows how to do this? |
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| 18:17.15 | techampere | Hi, do you guys know any other window managers for KDE? |
| 18:17.41 | techampere | not the default Kwin |
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| 18:18.48 | annma | depends on what you want, try some and see |
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| 18:19.46 | techampere | annma: where can I find them? Even a web page will help. I tried google, but couldn't find anything |
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| 18:19.51 | techampere | that works on KDE |
| 18:20.31 | annma | why don't you want kwin? |
| 18:20.58 | annma | apparently you don't know any other |
| 18:21.22 | annma | it's best to explain why you don't want kwin |
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| 18:23.03 | techampere | Its not that I hate Kwin, I am writing an article on various window managers which work on KDE, couldn't find anything other than Kwin |
| 18:23.17 | annma | tehre are several others |
| 18:23.29 | Sho_ | techampere: pretty much any netwm-compliant window manager will do, which means dozens |
| 18:24.05 | annma | techampere: just install them from your distro and try them |
| 18:24.23 | annma | you can switch them after you install them in System Settings |
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| 18:26.06 | techampere | Sho_: Found few netwm-compliant window manager, will try them. |
| 18:26.18 | techampere | annma: Yep, thats the only thing I can do |
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| 18:31.03 | annma | techampere: usually users are used to a wm and wants to stick with it that's why they would use other than KWin |
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| 18:32.29 | annma | a few years ago Compiz was very hot but KWin now has caught up |
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| 18:38.52 | techampere | I have read in several forums that the OpenGL slows down if you are having poor Graphics card/driver and people have moved to compiz. And according to the keyword Analysis, lot of people do search for other WM's for KDE. I thought it would make a good article for my blog |
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| 18:40.08 | annma | techampere: before writing wrong stuff you need to mail the kwin developer |
| 18:40.18 | annma | who is a very nice guy |
| 18:40.39 | annma | because in forums you can read anything and its opposite |
| 18:40.54 | leo_rockway | I know people that used XMonad before KWin had tiling. |
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| 18:42.19 | annma | techampere: also read planet KDE |
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| 18:43.41 | Furkan | Hi. I want to connect to my MSN account with Kopete but I'm behind a firewall and some ports aren't available. When I was on ubuntu using Empahty I used to uninstall telepathy-butterfly and in Empathy I used to select "Use HTTP Method" and everything would work fine. But I couldn't find anything like that on Arch Linux Using Kopete. Can anyone help please? |
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| 18:46.53 | techampere | annma: I have nothing against Kwin. Kwin is awesome and is probably the best, but all the new transparency features don't work when you are running with poor Graphics card/ old drivers and the like. I had to suspend all the Desktop effects to use KDE or use XRender which worked faster but failed to load at times. Alternatives may come in handy at such times :) |
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| 18:47.57 | mgraesslin | techampere: you won't find alternatives for that. KWin is the only window manager in existance to support non-composited, XRender compositing and OpenGL compositing |
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| 18:48.20 | annma | techampere: mgraesslin is the KWin devel |
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| 18:48.36 | annma | techampere: I only said that if you write so |
| 18:49.03 | annma | something you need to check facts other than in forums |
| 18:49.29 | mgraesslin | most information is outdated anyway |
| 18:49.39 | leo_rockway | I was reading about a meme (the result of 48/2(9+3) ) and I noticed that the calculator in krunner gives different results depending on the way one inputs the calculation. I wonder if that's correct |
| 18:49.47 | mgraesslin | drivers improved, KWin improved... |
| 18:49.55 | leo_rockway | 48/2(9+3) = 2 |
| 18:50.11 | leo_rockway | 48/2*(9+3) = 288 |
| 18:50.21 | leo_rockway | should the * make the result really change? |
| 18:50.50 | Scunizi | If you have both gnome and kde installed do the kde libraries and graphics rendering (kwin) load or xrandr ? |
| 18:50.52 | techampere | mgraesslin: Isn't openGL supposed to be faster than Xrender? |
| 18:51.00 | techampere | But it isn't for me. |
| 18:51.03 | mgraesslin | leo_rockway: no, that looks like a bug |
| 18:51.10 | mgraesslin | techampere: depends on driver |
| 18:51.13 | leo_rockway | mgraesslin: that's what I thought. |
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| 18:53.30 | techampere | mgraesslin: Weird doubt, how do I find the driver I am using? |
| 18:54.11 | fred | hey - there was a 2009 gsoc project to add tabbing support to kwin - did that ever get merged? |
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| 18:55.02 | leo_rockway | fred: there is tabbing support, yes. |
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| 18:56.17 | fred | leo_rockway: I can't see how to enable/use it in kde 5.5 - is that too old, or am I missing something? |
| 18:56.33 | leo_rockway | I guess you mean 4.5? |
| 18:56.33 | fred | *4.5.5 |
| 18:56.37 | fred | heh |
| 18:57.08 | leo_rockway | fred: I do alt+f3 > move window to group |
| 18:57.55 | fred | leo_rockway: thanks - pitty it doesn't work for stuff with custom title bars :( |
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| 18:58.17 | leo_rockway | fred: I don't really use it much |
| 18:58.24 | leo_rockway | I have 8 work areas each with an app maximized |
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| 18:59.11 | fred | leo_rockway: yeah, I just have a collection of stuff that I look at infrequently and like to flip through quickly |
| 18:59.11 | fred | (facebook, webmail, spotify) |
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| 19:29.37 | ahel | neverminds |
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| 23:44.08 | diegoviola | how to configure kde so when i right click on a url on konsole it will open on firefox instead of konqueror? |
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| 23:57.29 | James147 | diegoviola: System settings > default applications ... or System settings > File Associations.. |