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| 02:40.33 | maxamillion | anyone know of a good screencasting application for kde? |
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| 05:16.48 | tweek_ | i have a question, just a minor thingy: when i resume from suspend, the screen is black, and i have to poke the mouse to make the lock dialog appear so i can enter my password |
| 05:16.59 | tweek_ | can i make the dialog appear immediately after resume? |
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| 05:39.01 | chx | hi. On the login screen there is a menu. If I pick Default I get a distorted screen. KDE Plasma Workspace works. This is Arch Linux on a new i5-2520M laptop. |
| 05:43.31 | tweek_ | chx: "Default" will depend on what you have in your ~/.Xsession |
| 05:44.13 | tweek_ | chx: xsession, sorry, lowercase |
| 05:44.21 | chx | ah |
| 05:44.45 | tweek_ | for kde, the line in .xsession would be 'exec startkde' |
| 05:45.34 | tweek_ | chx: and if you have trouble with your screen resolution, you could maybe put an xrandr command in there before exec startkde |
| 05:45.40 | chx | hm that's commented out. KDE starts. I can sort of see the windows. it's just that the top of the screen and in general the whole thing is...distorted :/ |
| 05:46.06 | chx | no, the 1600x900 resolution works fine under KDE Plasma Workspace |
| 05:46.24 | chx | the question... how can i make the KDE Plasma Workspace setting to "stick" ? |
| 05:46.28 | chx | I am happy with it, after all |
| 05:46.31 | chx | it's pretty :) |
| 05:47.14 | tweek_ | chx: wait, what is the problem? you select "kde", it works, you select "default", a distorted kde comes up? |
| 05:47.19 | chx | Yes. |
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| 05:47.26 | chx | That's exactly what happens. |
| 05:48.04 | chx | and the way KDE Plasma Workspace behaves I would bet a hefty sum it has compositing on. |
| 05:48.54 | tweek_ | if things look messed up, it could be a problem with the plasma settings or the graphics driver, but that wouldn't explain said difference |
| 05:48.59 | tweek_ | maybe try something else: |
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| 05:49.22 | tweek_ | copy the contents of your .xsession to your .xinitrc, if you don't have one |
| 05:49.50 | tweek_ | then log out, go to the console, shutdown the display manager (service kdm stop), log in on the console, then run startx |
| 05:50.10 | chx | ,xsession has /bin/bash --login -i ~/.xinitrc |
| 05:50.41 | tweek_ | um, ok, and what does .xinitrc look like? |
| 05:51.14 | chx | http://paste.pocoo.org/376177 |
| 05:51.38 | chx | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/376177 |
| 05:51.39 | chx | sorry |
| 05:51.59 | chx | i guess i need to read /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d |
| 05:53.12 | chx | hrm |
| 05:53.13 | tweek_ | chx: ok, what does it do if you run startx? |
| 05:53.16 | chx | now i cant repro this anymore :( |
| 05:54.52 | tweek_ | chx: you mean now it works as it should? |
| 05:55.17 | tweek_ | chx: btw, for reference, here is my .xinitrc and .xsession (they're the same): http://paste.debian.net/plain/114785 |
| 05:56.02 | tweek_ | chx: and the .displaysetup script just contains color adjustment and dual monitor setup |
| 05:57.12 | chx | yes now everything works seemingly the same |
| 05:57.25 | tweek_ | chx: unless /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d contains the actual starting line for a desktop environment, you will need to uncomment that line in your .xinitrc |
| 05:57.45 | chx | when i tried compiz some time ago i was in love with the cube |
| 05:57.47 | chx | hello back :) |
| 05:58.06 | chx | now if it would switch on windows+tab.... |
| 05:58.49 | tweek_ | chx: check out the desktop effects settings, and the keyboard input something settings |
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| 06:06.45 | chx | which desktop effect causes this shiny border around the windows? i thoguth it's shadow but it's not that or i made soem stupd mistake again |
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| 06:30.27 | Rhisa | :[ Anyoneeeee? |
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| 06:43.52 | silver_hook | Rhisa: System Settings â Deskop look & feel â Window decoration â Decoration settings (roughly translated back to english) |
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| 08:57.10 | Proshot | is it possible to sync kmail with different instanstances of kmail on different computers |
| 08:57.19 | Proshot | i am not using imap but pop3 and smtp |
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| 10:04.38 | RLa | is there alternative to konqueror for kde 4? |
| 10:04.51 | RLa | this question has probably asked million times |
| 10:05.00 | RLa | but i have not found anything like that |
| 10:05.46 | RLa | or is webkit really inferior to firefox so that we must use local file manager (dolphin?) + firefox? |
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| 10:10.21 | dziems2 | rekonq? |
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| 10:12.40 | RLa | dziems2, but does it support local file system browsing? |
| 10:13.00 | dziems2 | I don't onestly recall |
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| 10:13.06 | dziems2 | *honestly |
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| 10:13.14 | dziems2 | I *think* it did |
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| 10:13.44 | RLa | no, it's not what i look for |
| 10:13.49 | dziems2 | installs rekonq from F14 repos |
| 10:14.10 | RLa | it has "web views" for local file systems which are rather useless |
| 10:14.41 | dziems2 | Ah, yeah |
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| 10:19.22 | RLa | konqueror still uses khtml as backend? |
| 10:20.03 | icewind | you can configure konqueror to use webkit |
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| 10:24.20 | RLa | icewind, how, there is nothing about it in Settings |
| 10:24.29 | RLa | icewind, that would be perfect solution |
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| 10:25.27 | dziems2 | View->ViewMode->Webkit is something I have, might be a Fedora thing though |
| 10:25.41 | icewind | you need to install kwebkitpart first |
| 10:25.43 | dziems2 | (for konquerer) |
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| 10:35.35 | RLa | crashes a lot, sec, i do reboot |
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| 11:38.22 | ponto | Hi, has gwenview a menu? I do not have one and wonder how to get it back if there should be one. |
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| 11:45.09 | nib952051 | ponto: ctrl + M? |
| 11:45.22 | ponto | nib952051: thanks |
| 11:45.31 | nib952051 | :) |
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| 12:05.24 | Zaister | I'm trying to completely reinitialize Kmail2, but it keeps listing my imap account, and I have no idea how to get rid of it, can you help me? |
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| 12:05.56 | Zaister | also I have "Local Folders" listed three times |
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| 12:06.15 | mynameisdeleted | how do I disable windows being stuck to edge of screen by default? |
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| 12:06.36 | Raptors | can someone please help me out |
| 12:06.58 | Raptors | I wanted to give KDE a shot so I installed it on my debian sid mechine and it crashes before it even loads |
| 12:07.09 | Raptors | plasma workspace has crashed |
| 12:07.20 | Raptors | and the window manager crashes too |
| 12:07.46 | Raptors | I installed it though the repo all the base files + kde-full |
| 12:07.56 | Raptors | Debian Sid |
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| 12:09.11 | mynameisdeleted | disable screen edges and disable tiling I guess |
| 12:09.13 | mynameisdeleted | awsome |
| 12:09.21 | Raptors | ? |
| 12:09.55 | mynameisdeleted | I might re-enable highlighting when its easier to untile windows by just dragging |
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| 12:10.18 | mynameisdeleted | or if I have to activate it to use it and they dont do that when I dont want them to |
| 12:12.00 | Raptors | O I thought you were answering me |
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| 12:12.49 | mynameisdeleted | I never failed to install kde through ubuntu or debian |
| 12:12.56 | mynameisdeleted | or apt-get methods |
| 12:13.07 | mynameisdeleted | well.. I mostely try ubuntu |
| 12:13.11 | mynameisdeleted | maybe apt-get update |
| 12:13.15 | mynameisdeleted | and then apt-get upgrade |
| 12:13.23 | mynameisdeleted | and see if updating kde libraries fixes anything |
| 12:13.34 | mynameisdeleted | if you get a crash and a message says what library its in |
| 12:13.36 | Raptors | its debian sid... |
| 12:13.48 | mynameisdeleted | then you re-install the package it says crashed? |
| 12:13.55 | mynameisdeleted | or the library containign tha tpackage |
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| 12:14.02 | Raptors | it says plasma-desktop crashed |
| 12:14.09 | mynameisdeleted | says it crashed on libbarf.so |
| 12:14.11 | Raptors | and it trys to reopen it a billion times |
| 12:14.18 | mynameisdeleted | grep libbarf.so /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list |
| 12:14.30 | mynameisdeleted | you see a file /var/lib/dpkg/info/barf_package.list |
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| 12:14.39 | mynameisdeleted | sudo apt-get install --reinstall barf_package |
| 12:14.45 | Raptors | ?????????? |
| 12:14.50 | mynameisdeleted | assumign barf_package was the package name |
| 12:15.03 | Raptors | I just installed them right now |
| 12:15.21 | mynameisdeleted | what 3d driver do you use? |
| 12:15.25 | Raptors | nvidia |
| 12:15.29 | mynameisdeleted | latest nvidia? |
| 12:15.31 | Raptors | it's working fine in gnome |
| 12:15.31 | Raptors | ya |
| 12:15.47 | mynameisdeleted | you could disable that and switch window managers without switchign desktop managers |
| 12:15.53 | mynameisdeleted | compiz window manager |
| 12:15.57 | mynameisdeleted | or metacity |
| 12:16.04 | mynameisdeleted | and keep kde |
| 12:16.26 | mynameisdeleted | keep plasma-desktop but ditch kwin and kde composite management |
| 12:16.29 | mynameisdeleted | see if that fixes it |
| 12:16.30 | Raptors | that works but plasma-desktop is broken |
| 12:16.41 | mynameisdeleted | plasma-desktop is broken? |
| 12:16.46 | Raptors | it segment faults |
| 12:16.51 | Raptors | on login |
| 12:16.52 | mynameisdeleted | try adding a different repository for kde |
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| 12:17.02 | mynameisdeleted | I think debians is often broken and old and slow to get updated |
| 12:17.08 | mynameisdeleted | ubuntu never has issues with kde |
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| 12:17.20 | Raptors | This is debian unstable |
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| 12:17.30 | mynameisdeleted | they claim debian is more "stable" as an excuse for giving ancient package |
| 12:17.37 | mynameisdeleted | and on latest packages they crash 10 times more than ubuntu |
| 12:17.45 | mynameisdeleted | and they always support less hardware |
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| 12:18.14 | mynameisdeleted | I've always read "stable" as an excuse for "too lazy to test and fix up new packages properly to work" |
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| 12:19.08 | Raptors | this is //unstabled/// |
| 12:19.39 | mynameisdeleted | newest everythign is actually far easier to maintain with fewer bugs since most developers write new packages to work with new packages at the time they write them |
| 12:20.32 | mynameisdeleted | meaning they probably first test in a distro that is new and up to date |
| 12:20.42 | mynameisdeleted | and let the older distro include packages when they decide they are stable |
| 12:20.44 | Raptors | hm... kde-full/kdebase didn't install kde or kde-core |
| 12:20.48 | Raptors | O_o |
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| 12:21.42 | mynameisdeleted | having to write a new package like your favorite code editor and test agianst library versions for the last 5 years so it works with redhat enterprise "stable" and debian "stable" and every distro that holds back on libraries |
| 12:21.42 | Raptors | it still crashes |
| 12:21.50 | mynameisdeleted | is much harder than only testing with the current release of everything |
| 12:21.56 | mynameisdeleted | and thus much less likely to work |
| 12:21.59 | mynameisdeleted | when packaged |
| 12:22.10 | Raptors | "we are sorry plasma-workspace closed unexpectedly" |
| 12:22.38 | Raptors | "kwin is unstabled crashed multiple times" |
| 12:22.51 | mynameisdeleted | this does add some stability to packages that have been out for 10 years like apache though and vi |
| 12:23.01 | mynameisdeleted | only having stable features |
| 12:23.29 | mynameisdeleted | kde and its libraries have evolved too much to be very stable with libraries and applications written in different years |
| 12:24.03 | Raptors | well people can't say I didn't give KDE a chance now |
| 12:24.08 | Raptors | remove kde |
| 12:24.20 | mynameisdeleted | try debian stable kde |
| 12:24.26 | mynameisdeleted | or ubuntu kde repository |
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| 12:24.43 | Raptors | ya, I don't want to mix ubuntu in my repos |
| 12:24.44 | mynameisdeleted | or compile from source |
| 12:24.56 | Raptors | cmake pisses me off |
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| 12:25.12 | Raptors | and I have no clue how to remove it |
| 12:25.20 | Raptors | maybe its just this kernel? |
| 12:25.31 | APTX | what |
| 12:25.34 | Raptors | I have unstable kernel |
| 12:25.52 | Raptors | the very latest one that's not released yet. :| |
| 12:25.58 | Raptors | but I doubt that |
| 12:26.03 | mynameisdeleted | http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/4.4.0/ |
| 12:26.10 | mynameisdeleted | try gettign debian packages from there |
| 12:26.38 | mynameisdeleted | I compiled my own latest kernel and am much happier than with my distros kernel |
| 12:26.52 | mynameisdeleted | I dont worry much about speed |
| 12:27.04 | mynameisdeleted | but I do worry if driver or firmware on latest gigabit ethernet cards dont quite work right |
| 12:27.08 | Raptors | compiled are generally faster |
| 12:27.14 | Raptors | I can't be bothered to figure this out |
| 12:27.16 | Raptors | I'm going to remove it |
| 12:27.29 | mynameisdeleted | the factory kernel was also compileed |
| 12:27.38 | mynameisdeleted | and optimized for x86_64 architecture too btw |
| 12:27.55 | mynameisdeleted | I dont think I ran any optimization options the defualt factory didnt |
| 12:28.09 | mynameisdeleted | I actualyl copied their config and added a few features I wanted for me |
| 12:28.12 | mynameisdeleted | and made it latest version |
| 12:28.35 | Raptors | does kde need 3d acceleration? |
| 12:28.55 | Raptors | isn't there a fallback? |
| 12:29.12 | icewind | there is a fallback |
| 12:29.25 | Raptors | then that can't be the reason it's crashign |
| 12:29.40 | Raptors | "kwin is unstabled crashed multiple times" |
| 12:29.45 | hussam | kwin can be set to use xrender instead of opengl |
| 12:29.46 | Raptors | "we are sorry plasma-workspace closed unexpectedly" |
| 12:30.43 | Raptors | Does it matter if I open it from gdm? |
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| 12:39.47 | Torch | it should not |
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| 12:43.51 | Zaister | is this the right channel for kdepim beta questions? or where should I go? |
| 12:51.00 | Raptors | http://pastebin.com/i2qSkvUR |
| 12:51.04 | Raptors | any ideas? |
| 12:51.43 | silver_hook | hugs Zaister, fellow tortured soul. |
| 12:51.55 | Zaister | akonadi is driving me nuts :) |
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| 12:53.10 | Zaister | every time I call up the akonadi control panes it seems to create more new entries ("ical resources") I don't want |
| 12:53.24 | Zaister | and kmail doesn't run ("Failed to fetch the resource collection.") |
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| 12:53.46 | Raptors | no ideas? |
| 12:53.46 | Raptors | :( |
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| 12:57.48 | Raptors | I think I found the fix |
| 12:57.56 | Raptors | http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1161 |
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| 13:03.39 | Raptors | That fixed it |
| 13:03.56 | Zaister | cool |
| 13:04.07 | Raptors | feels cool |
| 13:04.28 | Raptors | I guess I'll give KDE a shot for a couple of days |
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| 13:06.18 | silver_hook | Beh: Akonadi & Nepomuk don't like eachother again: http://wklej.org/id/517215 |
| 13:07.32 | Zaister | I don't like them both :) |
| 13:08.48 | silver_hook | I would like them a lot, if they were well behaved and worked :P |
| 13:08.59 | Zaister | yeah |
| 13:09.05 | silver_hook | I think it's a great idea and would give me lots of power over my data :] |
| 13:09.26 | Zaister | the full text indexing stuff would be great, yes |
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| 13:09.43 | Zaister | but as it is, it collects gis and gigs of ever growin data, but still can't find anything |
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| 13:15.38 | Raptors | a... |
| 13:15.42 | Raptors | metacity is running |
| 13:15.49 | Raptors | can somone please tell me how to switch |
| 13:16.05 | Raptors | its not even using my theme. It's the horrible default ugly gray |
| 13:16.58 | szal | Metacity != KDE |
| 13:17.11 | Raptors | I know that |
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| 13:17.15 | Raptors | how do I switch to default |
| 13:17.18 | Raptors | kwm |
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| 13:17.30 | kdepepo | Start a KDE session? |
| 13:17.31 | Raptors | I just installed kde (was using gnome before that) |
| 13:17.38 | Raptors | I am in a kde session |
| 13:18.01 | kdepepo | You are not. Nothing in KDE would start Metacity, unless you changed defaults. |
| 13:18.22 | Raptors | I am using kde. I'm not blind. |
| 13:18.25 | silver_hook | kdepepo: If you press Alt+F2, do you get the Krunner? |
| 13:18.34 | Raptors | yes |
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| 13:18.56 | Raptors | is there a command like on gnome? |
| 13:18.56 | silver_hook | kdepepo: Sorry, was meant for Raptors. |
| 13:19.07 | Raptors | compiz --replace |
| 13:19.12 | Raptors | metacity --replace |
| 13:19.15 | Raptors | emerald --replace |
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| 13:19.18 | Raptors | something like that? |
| 13:19.30 | kdepepo | kwin --replace |
| 13:19.31 | svuorela | kwin --replace |
| 13:19.39 | svuorela | bah. too slow. kdepepo always wins :p |
| 13:19.53 | Raptors | it doesn't start |
| 13:19.59 | Raptors | O wait |
| 13:20.01 | Raptors | nvm it did |
| 13:20.11 | Raptors | but compiz doesn't work now and it's still ugly gray :\ |
| 13:20.25 | Raptors | other then menu bar |
| 13:20.39 | Raptors | maybe because I'm using xchat? |
| 13:20.53 | Raptors | ugh |
| 13:21.04 | silver_hook | Raptors: Go to System Settings â Default components â Window Manager and check "KWin". |
| 13:21.18 | silver_hook | (roughly translated back to English â) |
| 13:22.35 | Raptors | There is no default components |
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| 13:22.53 | Raptors | default applications? |
| 13:22.58 | kdepepo | yep |
| 13:23.23 | silver_hook | yup |
| 13:23.36 | Raptors | compiz still doesn't work |
| 13:24.01 | Raptors | doing compiz --replace changes it to metacity |
| 13:24.03 | kdepepo | ?? If you start kwin, it replaces compiz. You have to decide which you want. |
| 13:24.03 | silver_hook | Raptors: You want KWin or Compiz? |
| 13:24.15 | Raptors | :| |
| 13:24.25 | silver_hook | If you want KWin with compositing (i.e. fancy effects etc.), you just have to turn them on. |
| 13:24.45 | silver_hook | System Settings â Desktop Effects |
| 13:24.52 | Raptors | is compositing compiz? |
| 13:25.02 | kdepepo | And I still don't believe you selected a KDE session in the XDM. |
| 13:25.12 | Raptors | XDM? |
| 13:25.18 | kdepepo | KDM/GDM/XDM |
| 13:25.29 | Raptors | I'm in KDM... |
| 13:25.34 | Raptors | Everything is kde |
| 13:25.43 | Raptors | well look wise |
| 13:25.51 | Raptors | even the widget thing |
| 13:27.18 | Raptors | Is there a way to make gtk aps look less ugly in this? |
| 13:28.39 | kdepepo | install oxygen-gtk, if you want gtk applications to look like oxygen |
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| 13:29.12 | silver_hook | Or install QtCurve and make your own style with it, which applies to both Qt and GTK ;) |
| 13:29.12 | kdepepo | or just don't use gtk apps :P |
| 13:29.14 | Raptors | holy crap. I turned on the effects and everything feels like it's on speed |
| 13:29.22 | Raptors | compared to gnome |
| 13:30.02 | Raptors | Man I'm so lost :( |
| 13:30.09 | Raptors | Everything is so confusing |
| 13:30.33 | Raptors | What is the terminal listed under? |
| 13:30.48 | Raptors | nvm found it |
| 13:30.57 | Raptors | nvm |
| 13:31.02 | Raptors | its not the right terminal :\ |
| 13:31.08 | Raptors | akonadi console |
| 13:31.15 | kdepepo | Konsole |
| 13:31.37 | Raptors | thanks |
| 13:32.24 | silver_hook | Raptors: But if you typed "terminal" into the Krunner (Alt+F2) it should list Konsole as well. |
| 13:32.49 | Raptors | There is no oxygen-gtk in the debian repo |
| 13:33.05 | kdepepo | omg debian ... that's probably KDE 4.4 |
| 13:33.14 | Raptors | No |
| 13:33.16 | Raptors | this is Sid |
| 13:33.19 | Raptors | 4.5 |
| 13:33.45 | Raptors | Why is the desktop folder so small? |
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| 13:34.34 | Raptors | I feel like such a noob using this |
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| 13:34.53 | silver_hook | Where? |
| 13:34.56 | kdepepo | It's the same every time I try gnome :P |
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| 13:36.53 | silver_hook | kdepepo: ditto. |
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| 13:46.59 | Raptors | ok I got the source of oxygen-gtk and installed it. |
| 13:47.00 | Raptors | Now what? |
| 13:47.13 | Raptors | log out and log back in? |
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| 13:49.31 | Raptors | I guess I'll try that |
| 13:50.06 | silver_hook | Basically you just select that style, no need to log out. |
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| 13:51.38 | Raptors | its not holding default |
| 13:51.44 | Raptors | metacity started again :\ |
| 13:54.18 | ozzzy | you know... the Keramic window decorations used to be prettier... with a different colour in the 'bubble' than the titlebar |
| 13:54.19 | Raptors | systems setting wont open now |
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| 13:55.10 | Raptors | I killed it an reopened it |
| 13:55.12 | Raptors | now it's working |
| 13:55.19 | Raptors | oxygen-gtk isn't doing anything |
| 13:56.00 | kdepepo | did you select it as the gtk style? |
| 13:56.11 | Raptors | no |
| 13:56.13 | Raptors | how do I do that? |
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| 13:57.35 | kdepepo | System Settings > Application Appearance > GTK Style and Fonts |
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| 13:59.04 | Raptors | kdepepo, there is no application appearance |
| 13:59.08 | Raptors | :| |
| 13:59.31 | kdepepo | ah, 4.5 ... don't know how its called ... just Appearance? |
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| 13:59.44 | Raptors | ya |
| 13:59.49 | Raptors | there is nothing in here about gtk though |
| 14:00.32 | kdepepo | bummer ... you seem to miss packages for gtk integration |
| 14:00.51 | Raptors | I installed oxygen-gtk |
| 14:00.53 | Raptors | :| |
| 14:00.54 | kdepepo | I think its just called kcm-gtk |
| 14:01.01 | kdepepo | thats only the style |
| 14:01.14 | Raptors | ugh its not in the repo either |
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| 14:04.03 | Raptors | kdepepo, I installed that too and it's still not here |
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| 14:04.36 | kdepepo | run kbuildsycoca4 once to get the module database updated |
| 14:05.08 | Raptors | still not here |
| 14:05.20 | Raptors | kbuildsycoca4 running... |
| 14:05.21 | Raptors | kbuildsycoca4(8566) VFolderMenu::loadDoc: Parse error in "/home/bash/.config/menus/applications-merged/xdg-desktop-menu-dummy.menu" , line 1 , col 1 : "unexpected end of file" |
| 14:05.23 | Raptors | :| |
| 14:05.44 | Raptors | but that shouldn't of effected it |
| 14:05.50 | Raptors | kbuildsycoca4(8566) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry MimeType in "/usr/share/applications/nxclient.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon). |
| 14:05.57 | Raptors | that shouldn't of effected it either |
| 14:06.40 | kdepepo | odd, did you install it into kde4 prefix? If you install it "locally", it won't be found |
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| 14:08.51 | Raptors | kdepepo, I just did make install |
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| 14:10.00 | kdepepo | I guess you should try asking on #debian if anyone knows where the kde repos are |
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| 14:19.52 | Raptors | kdepepo, any other suggestions? |
| 14:20.27 | Raptors | kdepepo, you game me the wrong file |
| 14:20.30 | Raptors | gave* |
| 14:21.26 | Raptors | kcm-gtk: Transitional package for kde-config-gtk |
| 14:21.26 | Raptors | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.35 | kdepepo | I don't know exact package names on debian, because I don't use debian |
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| 14:22.02 | kdepepo | That's why I suggested to ask on #debian |
| 14:22.03 | Raptors | its good... |
| 14:22.13 | Raptors | they weren't helpful :/ |
| 14:22.20 | Raptors | I just show it on KDE-gtk page |
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| 14:27.04 | Raptors | kdepepo, I got that tab now but it doesn't do anyting |
| 14:27.04 | Raptors | ugh |
| 14:27.18 | Raptors | I chose oxygen-gtk and restarted xchat |
| 14:27.28 | Raptors | and I also chose unity and restarted xchat |
| 14:27.29 | Raptors | both did nothing |
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| 14:38.59 | Raptors | I'm seeing the option for the GTK settings but its not doing anything |
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| 14:42.25 | Raptors | log out and login fixed it |
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| 14:56.47 | lachfome | how i can disable tuchpad when in typing |
| 14:57.34 | icarus-c | lachfome: do you use GNOME or KDE ? |
| 14:57.42 | icarus-c | lachfome: there is a settings for that for those DE |
| 14:57.53 | icarus-c | in Mouse settings |
| 14:57.58 | icarus-c | or input device |
| 14:58.06 | Raptors | http://scnd101.deviantart.com/art/uniq-suite-v1-11-184479446 |
| 14:58.09 | Raptors | OMFG |
| 14:58.10 | lachfome | icarus-c: I'm using KDE |
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| 14:58.19 | Raptors | That's the greatest theme I've ever seen |
| 14:58.24 | Raptors | <4 |
| 14:58.26 | Raptors | <3 |
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| 14:59.18 | icarus-c | lachfome: oops. looks like KDE dont have such settings |
| 14:59.21 | icarus-c | my bad |
| 14:59.41 | lachfome | icarus-c: it's very bad |
| 14:59.52 | icarus-c | lachfome: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Disable_Trackpad_while_Typing |
| 15:00.01 | icarus-c | arch wiki is really a bible |
| 15:00.52 | Raptors | bash@debian:~/Downloads/uniq-v1-11$ sudo sh install.sh |
| 15:00.52 | Raptors | install.sh: 86: [[: not found |
| 15:00.52 | Raptors | .bash folder missing |
| 15:00.53 | Raptors | wtf |
| 15:00.55 | icarus-c | someone should go print Arch Wiki and publish |
| 15:00.57 | icarus-c | a book |
| 15:01.11 | icarus-c | install.sh :o |
| 15:01.32 | Raptors | where do I create .bash? |
| 15:01.42 | Raptors | I made one in my home directory but it's still giving that error |
| 15:02.03 | icarus-c | Raptors: normally bash would have such a folder |
| 15:02.06 | Raptors | btw how do you see hidden files in kde? |
| 15:02.17 | Raptors | bash = my username |
| 15:02.20 | icarus-c | alt + . |
| 15:02.36 | icarus-c | Raptors: why you make such a user name .. |
| 15:02.45 | Raptors | because I want to? |
| 15:02.58 | Raptors | and it was a short for my gamertag |
| 15:03.21 | icarus-c | Raptors: in Dolphin -> Settings -> Configure shortcuts -> search for hidden |
| 15:03.24 | James147 | dosnt know what happens when you create a user named the same as the shell you use ^^ |
| 15:03.35 | icarus-c | Raptors: or View -> Show hidden file |
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| 15:05.11 | Raptors | Where the hell do I make the .bash folder? T_T |
| 15:05.20 | Raptors | I cant install the greatest theme I've ever seen |
| 15:05.24 | thiago | Raptors: wherever you want |
| 15:05.32 | Raptors | bash@debian:~/Downloads/uniq-v1-11$ sudo sh install.sh |
| 15:05.32 | Raptors | install.sh: 86: [[: not found |
| 15:05.32 | Raptors | .bash folder missing |
| 15:05.48 | Raptors | I guess I should look at the file... |
| 15:05.50 | Raptors | 86 |
| 15:05.50 | thiago | Raptors: the problem is that [[ isn't found |
| 15:05.55 | Raptors | :\ |
| 15:05.58 | thiago | Raptors: what shell do you use? |
| 15:06.14 | Raptors | Bash |
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| 15:06.41 | thiago | oh well |
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| 15:06.48 | Raptors | oh well? |
| 15:06.49 | thiago | then please complain to the author of the theme that it won't install |
| 15:06.50 | Raptors | o noes |
| 15:07.29 | James147 | Raptors: why are you running it as root? |
| 15:07.51 | Raptors | [errors] Chromium's theme have not been installed. Is Chromium installed ? |
| 15:07.54 | Raptors | a... |
| 15:07.57 | Raptors | It is installed |
| 15:08.09 | thiago | Raptors: I assume we're talking about a KDE theme |
| 15:08.15 | Raptors | yes |
| 15:08.21 | icarus-c | Oops i just notice i'm on #kde :S |
| 15:08.24 | Raptors | that was in the error file |
| 15:08.32 | James147 | icarus-c: hehe |
| 15:08.39 | Raptors | its a suite |
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| 15:09.24 | Raptors | Where do you install the themes? |
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| 15:09.37 | Raptors | liek what folder? |
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| 15:10.05 | Raptors | hm... |
| 15:10.07 | Raptors | I got it installed |
| 15:10.15 | Raptors | by double clicking on install.sh |
| 15:10.16 | Raptors | :\ |
| 15:10.17 | James147 | Raptors: works fine here without having to do anything and without using root |
| 15:10.34 | Raptors | How do you change themes? |
| 15:10.39 | Raptors | ugh |
| 15:10.40 | James147 | Raptors: that because clicking on it dosnt run it as root |
| 15:10.46 | Raptors | feels like a retard |
| 15:11.00 | LeslieJones | Hello, my cube is failing to start on OpenSUSE 11.4 , any idea where I should look (I've installed 11.3 and 11.4 and both work fine in at least the core 2 duo and atom, but this is a dual core and 11.4) |
| 15:13.00 | ompaul | LeslieJones: wouldn't that be a distro issue? |
| 15:13.32 | LeslieJones | Well, in intel ATOM worked just fine, but in dual core didn't work |
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| 15:15.02 | thiago | LeslieJones: it's probably the video driver you're using |
| 15:15.36 | LeslieJones | oh, should I try in failsafe mode? (haven't tried so far) |
| 15:15.49 | icarus-c | LeslieJones: nvidia? |
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| 15:16.32 | LeslieJones | I will check and be back, |
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| 15:22.13 | Raptors23 | man this sucks |
| 15:22.29 | Raptors23 | I installed the theme but it's not showing up in settings |
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| 15:23.24 | Raptors23 | Is there a place IDK about that you can choose a theme? |
| 15:23.49 | Raptors23 | its not under schemes |
| 15:24.42 | kdepepo | There is no such thing as a "theme". You can configure the individual parts, such as window decoration, widget style, plasma style, colors, fonts, icons, etc... |
| 15:25.45 | icarus-c | sh install.sh to install a theme |
| 15:25.48 | icarus-c | nice |
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| 15:25.59 | icarus-c | looks like i could distrubte virus in that way |
| 15:26.14 | Ubuntufreak | Hi guys i updated my Kubuntu 11.04 from 10.10 and everything worked fine. Today when i try to run apt-get upgrade && update im facing error http://paste.kde.org/20311/ |
| 15:26.25 | Raptors23 | Man gnome is so much better and easier |
| 15:26.27 | kdepepo | icarus-c, and there will even be users that run as root :P |
| 15:26.30 | icarus-c | Ubuntufreak: #ubuntu |
| 15:26.39 | icarus-c | kdepepo: hell yeah! |
| 15:27.05 | Ubuntufreak | icarus-c: Really sorry posted here by mistake |
| 15:27.31 | icarus-c | no need to feel sorry |
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| 15:27.38 | icarus-c | just buy the channel drinks |
| 15:28.17 | Ubuntufreak | icarus-c: :-) |
| 15:28.18 | Raptors23 | Is there a way to disable the REALLY annoying single click? |
| 15:28.28 | icarus-c | Raptors23: settings |
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| 15:29.03 | Raptors23 | thanks |
| 15:29.06 | icarus-c | Raptors23: System settings -> Input devices -> Mouse |
| 15:29.17 | icarus-c | or Dolphin -> Settings -> Configure dolphin -> Navigation |
| 15:29.20 | Raptors23 | it was under keyboard-mouse |
| 15:29.33 | Raptors23 | keyboard & Mouse |
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| 15:55.17 | Raptors | 1 last question |
| 15:55.32 | Raptors | is there a way to tell KDE not to show windows on other desktops? |
| 15:55.36 | Raptors | like Gnome? |
| 15:56.04 | icewind | in the taskbar? |
| 15:56.07 | Raptors | like not show windows in desktop 1 in windows list on desktop 4 |
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| 15:56.10 | Raptors | ya |
| 15:57.03 | icewind | right click on taskbar->task manager settings->only show tasks from current desktop |
| 15:57.25 | Raptors | icewind, thanks |
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| 15:57.57 | Raptors | I think I can live with KDE after gnomeshell comes out |
| 15:58.06 | Raptors | hopefully KDE wont go in that direction |
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| 16:02.09 | icwiener | If a sound card has a separate head phone jack, who decides if it is shown in KMix? The driver and the phonon back end or does KMix has a say in that, too? |
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| 16:03.38 | icewind | driver/backend I think |
| 16:03.47 | icewind | kmix shows everything the backend offers iirc |
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| 16:20.35 | icwiener | icewind: Thanks, I thought so ... :) |
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| 16:43.55 | Raptors | Is there anything like the inhibit applet for Gnome for KDE? |
| 16:44.08 | Raptors | It's like a panel applet thing that stops gnome from going to sleep |
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| 16:52.01 | Raptors | I guess I'll take that as a no |
| 16:52.03 | Raptors | :( |
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| 17:10.24 | genfool | strange issue after setting up twinview with nvidia, when I open a terminal, go to resize it by dragging from edges, desktop locks up instantly... only way out is reset button on front of pc |
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| 17:11.33 | genfool | I have fully updated, emerge kde-meta, still happens, any ideas on what to check? |
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| 17:17.57 | genfool | seems to be a dbus error http://pastebin.com/EW2L8QyP |
| 17:20.02 | genfool | although I am booted into xfce at the moment, I tried to restart dbus and is already started and in default for start |
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| 17:24.38 | puneet | can anyone tell me when are the applications for season of kde going to strt |
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| 17:32.49 | silver_hook | What's the difference between "iCal" and "KDE Traditional" calendar resources? |
| 17:32.57 | silver_hook | iCal and vCal or what? |
| 17:33.59 | ompaul | silver_hook: this seems to say that http://userbase.kde.org/KOrganizer/Calendar |
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| 17:51.46 | ammit | hi all |
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| 17:52.09 | ammit | this is first time i am chatting on irc |
| 17:52.14 | ammit | :) |
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| 17:54.14 | BountyX | welcome |
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| 17:56.53 | chx | hi. still struggling with the network manager widget. when i click a new ssid, specify my password and click ok, nothing happens. i need to go to manage connections, add the connection to make it happen :/ |
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| 18:01.33 | BountyX | Where do I make KDE suggestions |
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| 18:03.36 | silver_hook | BountyX: On http://forums.kde.org there is a "Brainstorm" subforum/application. |
| 18:03.47 | BountyX | ty |
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| 18:04.16 | silver_hook | BountyX: NP :] |
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| 18:15.04 | silver_hook | When I scroll in Konqueror, the site does not draw unless I do something like select all (by Ctrl+A) and deselect it. |
| 18:15.15 | silver_hook | Which package would cause that? |
| 18:15.43 | silver_hook | So I know to reinstall it (Gentoo, KDE 4.6.2, KDEPIM 4.6 live) |
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| 18:16.03 | silver_hook | Some pages scroll nicely though. Odd. |
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| 18:51.01 | grawcho | hello all ... i case of a network manager crash ... what log file should i look for the crash in ? |
| 18:52.19 | grawcho | s/i/in/ |
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| 19:06.25 | shepherd | When I use Compiz as my window manager, it starts with an option automatically - loose binding, how can I prevent this from happening? as for me it causesproblems with updating the graphics on a window. |
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| 19:27.12 | arkascha | Is there any imap synchronization ability available in kmail or elsewhere is kde4 ? |
| 19:27.36 | jacobw | kmail can connect to an imap mailbox, assuming that is what you mean. |
| 19:27.37 | arkascha | I mean message synchronization between two imap servers, not between client and server. |
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| 19:30.58 | Raptors | Is there a inhibit applet like in gnome for KDE? |
| 19:31.31 | Raptors | Is there a way to put app shortcuts on the KDE panel? |
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| 19:43.42 | James147 | Raptors: you can just drag applications from the menu to the panel (or right click > add to panel) ... assuming you ahve unlocked the widgets first |
| 19:44.29 | wiebel | hi, i have a problem with my german umlauts in the konsole, like using ö causes a (arg: 6) like alt+6. My keybord setting are sane I'm using utf-8 which works fine with xterm (uxterm). |
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| 19:57.03 | Rhisa | Hi. For my taskbar I would not like any title, just the icon, how can I set it for that? |
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| 20:45.17 | Raptors | James147, what about the inhibit applet? |
| 20:45.46 | James147 | dosnt know of one |
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| 20:46.13 | Raptors | :( |
| 20:46.21 | Raptors | goes back to gnome |
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| 20:47.56 | James147 | Raptors: why do you need it? |
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| 20:48.41 | Raptors | it's extremely handy |
| 20:48.59 | hussam | I'd hate to break it to you Raptors.. |
| 20:49.01 | Raptors | I don't want to have to manually turn off screensaver everytime I watch a long video |
| 20:49.16 | Raptors | what? |
| 20:49.39 | hussam | gnome-applets will only get one more release |
| 20:49.49 | James147 | Raptors: kde dosent start the screen saver (well, turn off the screens in my case) then I am watching a movie full screen ehre |
| 20:49.49 | Raptors | I know that... |
| 20:50.07 | Raptors | Who said I'm going to upgrade to gnome 3 though? |
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| 20:51.11 | hussam | gnome 3.0 didn't have a gnome-applets release. 3.2 will but then it'll get axed. |
| 20:51.44 | hussam | just thought I'd mention it :) |
| 20:52.06 | Raptors | hopefully they ad applets |
| 20:52.19 | Raptors | but I'd be shocked if they did |
| 20:52.34 | Raptors | based on what they've written they believe it breaks the system |
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| 20:53.34 | hussam | for gnome-shell? no. it's designed to make your desktop more like a mobile phone look. it's why they removed the ui for hibernate and restart but kept standby/shutdown. |
| 20:53.52 | Raptors | ... |
| 20:54.14 | Raptors | http://images1.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/7069754/cant-tell-if-serious.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=fry |
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| 20:55.11 | hussam | oh no, I'm serious. Although I like some of the new technologies like gsettings. |
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| 20:59.26 | hussam | gsettings is pretty cool. gconf/orbit used to put off a lot of people because it means applications liked directly to gconf. now things just use glib for gsettings. if dconf is running, settings get saved otherwise it uses a memory gsettings backend. |
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| 21:05.54 | citn | it's quite strange that my wireless connection works on gnome, but when I start kde then I cannot connect to it. I would like to use kde but I don't have access to the net |
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| 21:07.04 | hussam | are you using networkmanager to connect to the internet? |
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| 21:07.53 | citn | I don't know.. I just go to the default network manager in gnome/kde |
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| 21:09.56 | hussam | as far as I know gnome/kde don't actually have core network manager applications. you might be running networkmanager under gnome. I think there is a kde frotend for it. But I'd ask in the distribution channel first. |
| 21:10.29 | hussam | networkmanager isn't a core gnome desktop application. |
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| 21:11.28 | citn | so what I did is to install ubuntu/gnome (because I know this will connect), and I installed in parallel kde...so when I log in using kde I see that my network driver is working (blue light) but I cannot connect to the internet |
| 21:12.42 | hussam | you must be running networkmanager then under gnome then. |
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| 21:13.23 | citn | how do I found out? |
| 21:13.33 | citn | *find* |
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| 21:14.31 | hussam | no idea. I connect from command line (both when I ran gnome and now after I switched to kde). I think it's better to ask in your distribution. |
| 21:14.33 | citn | yes I use NetworkManager 0.8.1 |
| 21:16.03 | hussam | but as far as I remember, there is a frontend for it that will run under kde. someone mentioned it once. |
| 21:16.38 | citn | wicd ? |
| 21:17.46 | hussam | I just found this http://userbase.kde.org/KNetworkManager |
| 21:19.26 | citn | thanks. I will try installing this in gnome and then log on kde and see if it connects |
| 21:20.01 | ozzzy | didn't your distro setup the network to work no matter what was running? |
| 21:20.13 | citn | that's the strange part |
| 21:20.19 | ozzzy | I'd say so |
| 21:20.46 | ozzzy | I installed ubuntu the other day and it was internet ready |
| 21:21.02 | hussam | in my opinion unless it's dial up, it's best to connect to the internet via some startup script |
| 21:21.06 | citn | yes, but if you install kde and you log in with it, it doesn't |
| 21:21.16 | ozzzy | I installed kubuntu and it worked too |
| 21:21.27 | hussam | so you can have internet before you are logged in. |
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| 21:21.51 | ozzzy | I found both had issues so I went back to Mandriva |
| 21:22.01 | James147 | hussam: ^^ unless your not in the same location all the time |
| 21:22.20 | citn | I installed from gnome the "kubuntu-desktop" package with all kde apps |
| 21:22.34 | hussam | correct, sorry. I'm just used to my home/office computers. |
| 21:22.44 | hussam | not really used to laptops. |
| 21:26.15 | citn | ok, I'll try knetworkmanager.. I need to log out |
| 21:26.16 | citn | brb |
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| 21:26.46 | Raptors | <James147> Raptors: kde dosent start the screen saver (well, turn off the screens in my case) then I am watching a movie full screen ehre |
| 21:26.49 | Raptors | it disables it? |
| 21:27.21 | James147 | ^^ it dosnt turn off the screens when a full screen movie is playing |
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| 21:27.43 | James147 | (that is, with kaffeine... havnt really used other players) |
| 21:28.29 | hussam | vlc too. |
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| 21:30.35 | James147 | Raptors: so if that the only usecase then I suggest you try it and see... you may not nee the applet at all |
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| 21:33.35 | rplnt | Hello, when I merge windows into group they still show up in task manager as separate entries. Is it possible to configure it that only group will be represented in there? |
| 21:33.37 | silver_hook | Mail now works :] |
| 21:33.50 | silver_hook | But how do I get my ToDo's back? |
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| 21:34.44 | silver_hook | If I add the iCal files I used before, I don't get 99% of the ToDo's I had. |
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| 22:31.07 | chomwitt | hi. i want to download the kturtle source trunk code. how can i check if it's in git repository ? |
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| 22:31.57 | thiago | chomwitt: projects.kde.org |
| 22:33.29 | chomwitt | thiago: thanks! |
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| 22:34.37 | James147 | How can you compile ksysguardd ? (without the reset of kde?) |
| 22:36.04 | thiago | James147: download the sources, build it |
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| 22:36.29 | thiago | the CMakeLists.txt doesn't look like it depends on any KDE macros |
| 22:37.50 | James147 | thiago: when I try jsut compiling it i get: Unknown CMake command "macro_optional_find_package". |
| 22:38.04 | James147 | though the kdebase-workspace configures fine ^^ |
| 22:41.18 | thiago | then configure from the top dir of kdebase-workspace |
| 22:41.22 | thiago | make only ksysguardd |
| 22:42.14 | James147 | thiago: problem is that requires kde ^^ and my aim is to build it on a server without a gui |
| 22:44.53 | James147 | thiago: is such a thing possible? |
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| 23:03.59 | andrewthegreat | hi all, i have an unusual issue on kubuntu 10.10 |
| 23:04.20 | andrewthegreat | when using the desktop grid and hotkeys for "go one desktop left" and "go one desktop right" |
| 23:04.30 | andrewthegreat | if i have saw four desktops |
| 23:04.37 | andrewthegreat | i can only switch between two of them |
| 23:04.51 | andrewthegreat | even if in the plugin i set them all to present in the same row |
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| 23:05.09 | andrewthegreat | so internally they are in a square but i want them to be all in a row |
| 23:05.18 | andrewthegreat | is there a file i can edit to change this behavior? |
| 23:05.47 | andrewthegreat | the issue is present even if desktop effects are disabled |
| 23:06.01 | James147 | andrewthegreat: how is the pager configuered? |
| 23:07.19 | andrewthegreat | now it's configured to be all in one row, which fixes my issue |
| 23:07.20 | andrewthegreat | thanks! |
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