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| 00:26.49 | cobra-the-joker | Hey guys ... When i write with my keyboard ... the mouse freezes :S !! |
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| 02:09.35 | kexman | hello |
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| 02:10.39 | kexman | i have a strange problem when i login i get a delay untill last session applications start to start up + untill i get the login sound, also thiswhile i cant get to the startmenu since i click effortlessly and get nothing in return + i can start up application with alt+f2 |
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| 03:17.15 | npc_ | hey there guys |
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| 03:17.34 | npc_ | i have two vgas each plugged to a monitor |
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| 03:17.53 | npc_ | kdm only starts xorg at the first monitor |
| 03:18.15 | RingtailedFox | you might need to edit your xorg.conf file so it knows to use two monitors |
| 03:18.36 | npc_ | the second one remains blank or responds to ctrl+f1 working as the console |
| 03:18.52 | npc_ | is there a way to make kdm start kde4 using both monitors? |
| 03:19.28 | kexman | npc_: vga card ? |
| 03:19.31 | npc_ | it seems my first monitor is $DISPLAY=:0 |
| 03:19.49 | RingtailedFox | he says he has one monitor as text and one as graphics, but wants two as graphics... though his xorg configuration doesn't know how to use both with graphcis |
| 03:19.58 | npc_ | both are identical, one is a PCI Radeon 9200SE, the other AGP 9200SE |
| 03:19.58 | RingtailedFox | so, it just ignores one display and focuses on the other |
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| 03:20.05 | npc_ | i'm running the foss radeon driver |
| 03:20.29 | npc_ | RingtailedFox: yup, that's what happens |
| 03:20.31 | kexman | RingtailedFox: its past me :) |
| 03:20.54 | npc_ | is it possible to use kdm to start another xorg client on the second monitor? |
| 03:20.59 | kexman | npc_: brand of linux ? |
| 03:21.03 | npc_ | gentoo |
| 03:22.35 | kexman | npc_: hail :D |
| 03:22.56 | kexman | npc_: try in gentoo maybe they might know some quickfix :) |
| 03:23.11 | npc_ | okay |
| 03:23.14 | npc_ | thanks |
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| 03:23.29 | kexman | didnt say quit irc :)))) lol |
| 03:24.12 | kexman | ah its just left message :) |
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| 04:39.23 | factor | I am having a problem mounting a usb memory storage device. My SANSA FUZE in KDE it works if I drop down to say init 1 and mount it manually , but once in KDE it borks up and says not a valid device |
| 04:39.51 | factor | using debian stable and kernel 2.6.32 32 bit |
| 04:39.59 | factor | sorry kernel 2.6.36 |
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| 06:10.06 | hyper_ch | hello there, seems my KDE does not respect the plasma system bar in size. Maxed application are bigger and their bottom part disappears behind the bar |
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| 08:25.42 | EugenMayer | Hello. How would i install a url-handler in Kde 3.x and then 4.x ? is 4.x supporting xdg-mime? is kde supporting xdg-open at all? |
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| 08:32.03 | annma | EugenMayer: kde is following free desktop specs |
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| 08:32.24 | EugenMayer | mean, xdg-open will be working? Now the question is, how to register new url-hanlder |
| 08:32.30 | annma | http://standards.freedesktop.org/shared-mime-info-spec |
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| 08:32.44 | EugenMayer | e.g. under gnome3 you dont use gconf / gsettings anymore, but rather xdg-mime |
| 08:33.01 | EugenMayer | (but that works from gnome3 on, not gnome2). So what about KDE in that manner? |
| 08:33.22 | annma | explain your problem with more details |
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| 08:33.49 | EugenMayer | annma: i want to register a new uri-protocoal: "myapp" |
| 08:34.04 | annma | what's a new uri-protocol |
| 08:34.19 | annma | a mime-type? |
| 08:34.41 | EugenMayer | under gnome2, like ubuntu < 11.04, i would have done it using gconf /apps/gnome/url-handler/myapp/ ... with gnome3 i use xdg-mime myapp.desktop x-scheme/myapp |
| 08:34.46 | EugenMayer | annma: http:// |
| 08:34.49 | EugenMayer | https:// |
| 08:34.51 | EugenMayer | ftp:// |
| 08:35.00 | EugenMayer | those are all protocols you have a handler for |
| 08:35.12 | annma | so isn't xdg-mime working? |
| 08:35.17 | EugenMayer | e.h. the "default browser" ist he handler for http |
| 08:35.33 | EugenMayer | annma: thats my question, from which state on xdg-mime works with KDE ( version = |
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| 08:35.44 | annma | it works on kde4 for sure |
| 08:35.58 | annma | kde3 I don't remember, why would you care about kde3? |
| 08:36.09 | EugenMayer | annma: rhel |
| 08:36.16 | annma | rhel? |
| 08:36.50 | annma | I would say it should work on kde 3.5.x |
| 08:37.10 | EugenMayer | rhel is even 3.0 |
| 08:37.16 | annma | what is rhel |
| 08:37.24 | EugenMayer | redhat enterprise |
| 08:37.26 | annma | !!! |
| 08:37.36 | annma | and people are still using kde 3.0???? |
| 08:37.43 | annma | are you kidding |
| 08:37.55 | EugenMayer | Oh yes they are.. its a certificated linux, so they just cant "upgrade" |
| 08:37.58 | annma | all enterprizes I know use kde4 |
| 08:38.04 | EugenMayer | or they lose the certifications and therefore the support |
| 08:38.06 | annma | in Europe |
| 08:38.23 | annma | so how will you ship your app? |
| 08:38.23 | EugenMayer | annma: well lets say the "small" Company called "Merceds Benz" |
| 08:38.27 | EugenMayer | you might hear fo them |
| 08:38.42 | annma | why would rhel ship a new app |
| 08:38.48 | annma | your app |
| 08:38.51 | EugenMayer | bit mor then "5 employees" :) |
| 08:39.05 | EugenMayer | they wont. It will be installed by a script |
| 08:39.14 | EugenMayer | (non-root) |
| 08:39.18 | annma | you're a sysadmin here? |
| 08:39.31 | annma | can't you just try it on such a rhel system? |
| 08:39.57 | annma | either it works or not, if not, tell us precisely what's going on |
| 08:40.21 | annma | there's a kde-devel mailing list |
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| 08:40.48 | annma | but you need to be more specific |
| 08:40.50 | EugenMayer | annma: i had kind of 2 questions before |
| 08:41.06 | EugenMayer | "xdg working under KDE". Answer is yes, at least from KDE 3.5 |
| 08:41.21 | EugenMayer | second was, xdg-mime. Wokring on KDE4, probably 3.5 |
| 08:41.23 | annma | 3.5 being the one I remember |
| 08:41.42 | annma | why can't you try it? |
| 08:42.07 | annma | if you deploy to Mercedes-Benz you probably need to check it out |
| 08:42.10 | annma | ;) |
| 08:42.33 | EugenMayer | That will be my way i guess. Thanks! |
| 08:43.06 | annma | after you checked it out, write to kde-devel mailing list of any problem |
| 08:43.18 | annma | glad to know they are using KDE though |
| 08:43.46 | DeltaEpsilon | some one updates the topic of this channel |
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| 08:45.39 | annma | not sure if I can |
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| 08:46.25 | annma | I can ;) |
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| 08:48.50 | DeltaEpsilon | how to add a clock to my sys tray? |
| 08:48.59 | DeltaEpsilon | kde 4.6.3 kubuntu nattty |
| 08:49.00 | annma | should be there as default |
| 08:49.09 | annma | it is there |
| 08:49.20 | DeltaEpsilon | I removed the default panel |
| 08:49.28 | DeltaEpsilon | i added a new panel my own |
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| 08:50.10 | annma | so add a digital clock in your panel |
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| 09:13.42 | DeltaEpsilon | Flash does not work in Rekonq :-( |
| 09:14.05 | DeltaEpsilon | youtube does work but Rekonq crashes when sites use flash ads |
| 09:14.08 | annma | works in Konqueror? |
| 09:14.17 | annma | crashes? backtrace? |
| 09:14.52 | paristo | Hi, How I can change all mime-types in same type group at once to one icon? Example all mime-types in graphics group to same icon? |
| 09:14.56 | annma | or URL of such a site so I can try? |
| 09:15.02 | annma | DeltaEpsilon: I hate Rekonq |
| 09:15.09 | annma | it's unintuitive |
| 09:15.32 | annma | paristo: did you look at File Associations in System Settings? |
| 09:15.57 | paristo | annma: Yes, but it allows only one mime-type at time. Not all at once. |
| 09:16.14 | pinotree | paristo: you have no way |
| 09:16.20 | paristo | annma: Like I want to change all image mimetypes to specific icon. |
| 09:16.29 | paristo | pinotree: Is there config file where they are all saved? |
| 09:16.38 | pinotree | no |
| 09:16.39 | annma | DeltaEpsilon: URL? |
| 09:16.46 | paristo | .kde4/share/config/filetyperc does not include them. |
| 09:16.51 | paristo | pinotree: where does they get saved then? |
| 09:17.02 | DeltaEpsilon | annma: any website with flash ads |
| 09:17.10 | DeltaEpsilon | demonoid.com engadget.com |
| 09:17.10 | annma | give me an URL |
| 09:17.31 | annma | do you have a crash backtrace |
| 09:17.44 | pinotree | paristo: the customization is applied per mimetype, |
| 09:17.46 | annma | in KDE when something crashes, you get a dialog |
| 09:17.51 | annma | DeltaEpsilon: ^^ |
| 09:17.54 | pinotree | s/,// |
| 09:18.11 | paristo | pinotree: but where are then all those mimetypes stored? |
| 09:18.48 | pinotree | the problem is not that one |
| 09:19.18 | pinotree | there is a particular way to load mimetype icons |
| 09:20.38 | paristo | pinotree: So there is no simply a config file(s) what states what icon belongs to what mimetype? If so, how could they be shown correctly or configured? |
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| 09:20.42 | pinotree | no |
| 09:21.29 | DeltaEpsilon | annma: have you tried it? |
| 09:21.59 | annma | yes DeltaEpsilon no crash from Demonoid |
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| 09:22.05 | annma | KUbuntu Natty |
| 09:22.14 | annma | in Rekonq |
| 09:22.25 | annma | your install must be wrong |
| 09:22.29 | DeltaEpsilon | annma: hold on. let me load the flash plugin and test again |
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| 09:22.37 | annma | I don't think I have even Flash installed |
| 09:22.53 | annma | I hate flash |
| 09:23.00 | DeltaEpsilon | annma: wo flash the browser is fine |
| 09:23.03 | DeltaEpsilon | w/o |
| 09:23.17 | DeltaEpsilon | although it still does not display certain sites correctly |
| 09:23.31 | DeltaEpsilon | atm I use firefox to watch youtube |
| 09:23.45 | DeltaEpsilon | but firefox looks very ugly on kde4 |
| 09:23.56 | annma | aks your distro about it |
| 09:24.01 | annma | what's your distro? |
| 09:24.31 | DeltaEpsilon | kubuntu |
| 09:24.34 | DeltaEpsilon | Natty |
| 09:24.53 | annma | too |
| 09:25.09 | annma | I never installed Firefox though |
| 09:25.24 | annma | but for sure I don't have flash and no Rekonq crashes |
| 09:25.46 | annma | try #kubuntu or their forum |
| 09:26.23 | annma | KDE does not ship Rekonq and Firefox integration |
| 09:26.32 | DeltaEpsilon | annma: so you can't watch youtube vids on your computer? |
| 09:26.33 | DeltaEpsilon | :\ |
| 09:26.45 | annma | what is it to watch |
| 09:26.57 | DeltaEpsilon | annma: isn''t Rekonq kde4's default browser? |
| 09:27.01 | annma | nope |
| 09:27.03 | pinotree | kubuntu's |
| 09:27.05 | annma | Konqueror is |
| 09:27.23 | annma | Rekonq is NOT so KDE |
| 09:27.25 | DeltaEpsilon | ? isn't Rekonq the same as Konqueror? |
| 09:27.29 | annma | NO |
| 09:27.41 | DeltaEpsilon | Rekonq is just a newer version of KOnqueror right? |
| 09:27.47 | pinotree | nope |
| 09:27.53 | annma | it's not KDE's default browser nor is it KDE way |
| 09:27.56 | DeltaEpsilon | what is Rekonq then? |
| 09:28.02 | pinotree | another browser |
| 09:28.07 | annma | I hate it, I lost the URL bar and I am stuck with it |
| 09:28.23 | annma | well I changed to Konqueror of course |
| 09:28.33 | annma | but I can't make sense of it |
| 09:28.47 | annma | it's just untuitive |
| 09:29.00 | DeltaEpsilon | I am going to try Konqueror. Does it integrate well in kde4/ |
| 09:29.01 | DeltaEpsilon | ? |
| 09:29.16 | cb400f | all browsers are these days :-) .. imho google chrome started this deroute >:-) |
| 09:29.25 | annma | Rekonq is a third KDE app using QWebKit and Konqueror can also use QWebKit |
| 09:29.43 | DeltaEpsilon | what engine does konqueror use? |
| 09:29.51 | annma | default is khtml |
| 09:29.56 | pinotree | whatever you want |
| 09:30.01 | annma | you can switch to WebKit as I said |
| 09:30.07 | pinotree | (either khtml or webkit) |
| 09:30.22 | annma | Konqueror IS kde |
| 09:30.30 | annma | so it integrates the best |
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| 09:31.01 | DeltaEpsilon | nspluginviewer crashed in Konqueror when trying to view a youtube vid |
| 09:31.26 | cb400f | could you share one of your linkz? |
| 09:31.40 | cb400f | so we can try and reproduce the crash |
| 09:31.57 | DeltaEpsilon | sure |
| 09:31.58 | DeltaEpsilon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4QRSbf9H5M&feature=topvideos_film |
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| 09:33.11 | cb400f | plays here.. opensuse 11.4/rekonq 0.7.0/qt4.7.1/kde sc 4.6.0 |
| 09:33.20 | klikklak | this sucks donkey balls. I added a lot of tags on truecrypt containers, and after a reboot they're gone. |
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| 09:33.30 | cb400f | 32-bit flash 10.2 on 64-bit system |
| 09:34.13 | cb400f | first try I only had sound, no picture.. but a refresh of the page fixed that |
| 09:35.05 | klikklak | I'm guessing the semantic desktop does not play nice with partitions that are not mounted all the time? or that are mounted outside the automounting system? |
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| 09:36.03 | DeltaEpsilon | cb400f: a refresh crashed nspluginviewer |
| 09:36.08 | DeltaEpsilon | but other vids do work |
| 09:36.59 | DeltaEpsilon | I dont have to use firefox any more |
| 09:37.07 | DeltaEpsilon | one browser for everything |
| 09:37.42 | annma | klikklak: what do you mean? |
| 09:37.46 | annma | "play nice" |
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| 09:37.57 | szal | iirc, ReKonq is kind-of a Konqueror rewrite using Webkit as rendering engine |
| 09:38.00 | cb400f | hm.. konq/webkit did freeze on that video after refresh |
| 09:38.17 | klikklak | annma: does not keep the semantic data. chucks it away when it thinks that a part of the filesystem does not exist anymore |
| 09:38.18 | annma | szal: with a weird interface |
| 09:38.38 | annma | klikklak: you mean it's not in the database anymore? |
| 09:38.49 | szal | annma: from what I've seen of ReKonq yet, the interface isn't a problem, but ReKonq is buggy as hell ^^ |
| 09:38.49 | DeltaEpsilon | again, nspluginviewer crashed |
| 09:38.50 | klikklak | annma: at least dolphin doesn't show my tags anymore |
| 09:38.51 | DeltaEpsilon | :-( |
| 09:38.53 | cb400f | annma: those sort of interfaces are becoming the norm :-( ... look at FF4, Chromium, Opera... |
| 09:39.05 | annma | klikklak: tags, OK, so "added data" |
| 09:39.11 | DeltaEpsilon | why is it so hard to get flash working correctly? |
| 09:39.21 | annma | klikklak: when you replug it, the data is gone? |
| 09:39.22 | klikklak | annma: yes, tags |
| 09:39.27 | klikklak | annma: yup |
| 09:39.28 | DeltaEpsilon | annma: actually I like the interfcae of Rekonq more |
| 09:39.34 | annma | klikklak: what kde version? |
| 09:39.34 | DeltaEpsilon | it is space efficient |
| 09:39.42 | annma | DeltaEpsilon: I hate it |
| 09:39.49 | annma | I can't make sense of it |
| 09:39.55 | DeltaEpsilon | especially when you work on a 13" monitor |
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| 09:40.17 | klikklak | annma: 4.6.3 |
| 09:40.18 | annma | I lost the URL bar and can't find it back |
| 09:40.26 | annma | klikklak: try backing it up |
| 09:40.32 | annma | from systemsettings |
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| 09:40.39 | klikklak | annma: I've got weekly backups |
| 09:40.44 | cb400f | annma: you can always nuke your rekonqrc |
| 09:40.53 | klikklak | annma: but I spent the last couple days adding a lot of tags |
| 09:40.56 | szal | no crash w/ Konqueror/Webkit and Flash Square (64bit plugin) on KDE 4.6.2 |
| 09:41.00 | annma | klikklak: and when you restore it? |
| 09:41.30 | klikklak | annma: after last backup that is. |
| 09:41.59 | DeltaEpsilon | some youtube vids work and some don't :( |
| 09:42.09 | annma | klikklak: I can talk about i tto the devel |
| 09:42.17 | annma | klikklak: I can talk about it to the devel |
| 09:42.23 | klikklak | good. I'd like that |
| 09:42.43 | annma | :) |
| 09:42.51 | klikklak | I've got yesterdays backup (lucky), I'm restoring now. lets see |
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| 09:43.20 | szal | DeltaEpsilon: that was always the case w/ Konqueror; back on 32bit-only I consistently had the problem that about every other video didn't play |
| 09:43.53 | szal | though not crashing, it just wouldn't display |
| 09:44.29 | szal | no such problems though with the Mozilla bunch or Opera |
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| 09:46.09 | DeltaEpsilon | Konqueror + flash is just not stable enough for daily use |
| 09:46.11 | DeltaEpsilon | :( |
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| 09:46.33 | DeltaEpsilon | My only option left is to integrate firefox better in kde4 |
| 09:47.15 | sterna | how about rekonq? |
| 09:47.43 | cb400f | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+KDE+(Firefox+Theme)?content=117962 |
| 09:48.04 | reo_ | DeltaEpsilon, why not chromium, (i use opera btw) |
| 09:48.16 | cb400f | doesn't kubuntu ship the opensuse developed kde integration for FF? .. meaning you get kde file dialog, and it knows about kde file associations? |
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| 09:48.37 | sterna | yes, it does |
| 09:48.38 | cb400f | uses opera too, with firefox as fallback for certain things |
| 09:49.09 | cb400f | but if you only want to ever use one browser, there's only Firefox |
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| 09:49.23 | cb400f | which will work 99,5% of the time |
| 09:50.13 | reo_ | +1 |
| 09:55.09 | DeltaEpsilon | just installed that theme but it looks awful :( |
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| 09:56.26 | DeltaEpsilon | here is a screenshot http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/snapshot2ad.png/ |
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| 10:04.08 | DeltaEpsilon | hell, I will stick with Rekonq |
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| 10:43.47 | annma | EugenMayer: why can't you try? |
| 10:44.12 | TheAncientGoat | Hi guys, I just made a new user on my KDE system, and want to test out the permissions that I gave that user without logging out as my current user |
| 10:44.14 | EugenMayer | installing a centos right now :) |
| 10:44.15 | annma | I said it works under KDE 3.5 and you mentionned KDE 3.0 |
| 10:44.21 | TheAncientGoat | How would I go about doing this? |
| 10:44.23 | TheAncientGoat | SSH? |
| 10:44.30 | EugenMayer | annma: it seems like even centos 5, rhel5 has 3.5 |
| 10:44.52 | annma | see |
| 10:44.55 | cb400f | those are prehistoric |
| 10:45.07 | annma | so why did you tell me you want 3.0 |
| 10:45.18 | trooper | does the kde project use a special tool for requirements management? or is it just wikis and bugtrackers? |
| 10:45.20 | cb400f | rhel6 is out, and centos should be out soon.. being the last noteworthy distro moving to kde4 |
| 10:45.41 | annma | trooper: requirements managements?be more precise please |
| 10:46.10 | annma | 3.5 is OK |
| 10:46.23 | annma | I can even test stuff in 3.5 |
| 10:46.49 | trooper | annma: i am not sure what there is to be more precise about. a tool that races requirements from the design phase through implementation |
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| 10:46.55 | trooper | *traces |
| 10:47.13 | annma | what requirements? |
| 10:47.17 | trooper | software requirements! |
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| 10:47.24 | cb400f | dependencies? |
| 10:47.25 | trooper | moans. |
| 10:47.30 | annma | sofftware requirements from whom? |
| 10:47.39 | annma | dependencies??? |
| 10:47.48 | pinotree | trooper: no, we don't use anything like that |
| 10:47.49 | trooper | i can dig up a wikipedia page on it if you like :P |
| 10:47.57 | annma | trooper: you can moan and dig up |
| 10:48.12 | trooper | chooses to follow up with a groan instead. ;) |
| 10:48.13 | annma | if you can't explain it yourself...... |
| 10:48.43 | trooper | oh don't be like that. you obviously don't know the answer to my question, so why even bother engaging with me :( |
| 10:48.52 | annma | pinotree sais no |
| 10:49.16 | annma | but if you can't explain such thing to a KDE devel then that's sad |
| 10:49.46 | annma | if you are such a specialist you would not ask here anyway |
| 10:49.56 | annma | here is the channel for KDE users |
| 10:50.11 | trooper | oh shove off already. i am a kde user. /ignore |
| 10:50.18 | annma | ignore, yes |
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| 10:53.09 | trooper | there has to be some kind of tool(s) organizing all that developer activity. requirements management in context of software development. if i have to explain what i am talking about.... |
| 10:53.31 | pinotree | this is not a commercial company |
| 10:53.37 | annma | we're free |
| 10:53.43 | trooper | in university i did this in a word processor.. but that isn't practical. most softwrae shops use some kind of tool. i want to know how opensource is pulling it off |
| 10:53.43 | annma | bazaar |
| 10:53.46 | cb400f | and kde is lots independent "self-organizing" teams |
| 10:53.58 | cb400f | not one big team |
| 10:54.00 | trooper | those teams are still organizing themselves somehow. what is the toolset? |
| 10:54.07 | annma | we're not universities |
| 10:54.26 | cb400f | irc :-) |
| 10:54.27 | annma | we do stuff as people come and do it |
| 10:54.39 | annma | if no people then no stuff |
| 10:54.45 | trooper | annma: you aren't helpful. obviously you could afford to attend a university :P |
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| 10:54.52 | annma | ah ah |
| 10:54.57 | annma | I have a Master already |
| 10:55.00 | pinotree | trooper: mailing lists, irc, bugzilla, wikis |
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| 10:55.08 | annma | I did attend university |
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| 10:55.47 | pinotree | few teams also collaborative editing tools, but that's it mostly |
| 10:55.49 | annma | trooper: if you do not know about Free Software you should read some stuff |
| 10:56.05 | trooper | annma: you are extremely insulted. interacting with you is getting me bent out of shape |
| 10:56.15 | annma | like The Cathedral and The Bazzar from Eric Raymond |
| 10:56.35 | annma | you do not seem to know what KDE is |
| 10:57.38 | trooper | i am already quit the advocate and have quite a few crappy open source projects of my own, including one on sourceforge. i know a thing or two, but not when it comes to project management. i just earned a comp sci degree, at university, and i don't think its an unreasonable question to want to know how open source projects do requirements management... without the snide remarks |
| 10:57.46 | trooper | thanks pinotree. you have been very helpful |
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| 10:59.15 | cb400f | the developers decide the requirements .. so there's not much need of management .. besides a local todo list or something.. and most teams are small.. maybe 1-3-5 people or so |
| 11:00.15 | cb400f | also "release often" makes managing such stuff easier I guess |
| 11:00.49 | annma | and "manager" or "managing" is not a concept you can stick with KDE |
| 11:00.56 | annma | there are no managers |
| 11:01.21 | annma | it's collaborative and limited to whatever collaborators can do |
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| 11:02.46 | annma | someone can say "I'll do this" and he fells ill, there is no obligation |
| 11:02.51 | trooper | i figured requirements were implicit. i never state them in my own projects. i just figured if you have multiple teams working toward the same goal, there must be some kind of "management" if only for the sake of clear communication. |
| 11:03.02 | trooper | i think there is a lot of miscommunication going on. annma doesn't know what i am talking about for one ;) |
| 11:03.13 | annma | in KDE there are no managers |
| 11:03.24 | annma | I am the "leader" of one of KDE subteam |
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| 11:04.07 | cb400f | there are blogs and conferences to try and align the direction somewhat |
| 11:04.30 | cb400f | but there's nothing stopping one team from going the complete opposite direction of everyone else |
| 11:04.30 | annma | some people can "make a path on what they think would be good" |
| 11:05.05 | annma | but if nobody has expertize in this domain, then it'll stay unworked on |
| 11:05.36 | annma | everybody can agree "this" or "that" would be good for KDE or even essential |
| 11:06.02 | annma | but it depends then on people stepping in and doing the work |
| 11:06.04 | trooper | so was kde4 designed? i mean in the traditional sense. a design document that everybody is working from? |
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| 11:06.11 | pinotree | trooper: nope |
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| 11:07.03 | annma | kde4 as will be kde5 is left to people doing the work |
| 11:08.03 | annma | as I said we can all agree that "this feature" is essential, if nobody comes to implement it then it's left out |
| 11:08.36 | trooper | how are these features recorded? i'm guessing the bugtrack system? |
| 11:08.45 | annma | no |
| 11:08.55 | pinotree | <pinotree> trooper: mailing lists, irc, bugzilla, wikis |
| 11:08.57 | annma | bugtrack is for users reporting or asking |
| 11:09.19 | annma | what I am talking about is the project from the developers point of view |
| 11:09.32 | annma | we use mailing lists and IRC as pinotree said |
| 11:10.18 | annma | IRC is not exactly a "software development tool" |
| 11:11.01 | annma | you come, you say "I am good in this field and I want to do that" then basically you do it |
| 11:11.43 | annma | usually you know the KDE state of "this field" and will implement missing features |
| 11:11.50 | trooper | i know how it works. i wanted to improve the way i went about managing my future projects.. but it sounds like there isn't any magic bullet. i might as well continue doing what i'm doing |
| 11:12.04 | trooper | which is essentially a word processor. its a joke |
| 11:12.28 | annma | either you want your project to be free |
| 11:12.34 | annma | or you want to manage it |
| 11:12.48 | annma | (a bit caricatural but you get it) |
| 11:12.57 | trooper | hehe. i am done with free for a little while. i owe 60K and eat peanut butter sandwiches for dinner. ;) |
| 11:13.22 | annma | so where does KDE fit? |
| 11:13.25 | trooper | i want to sell dinky android apps for spare change. $2 a download. there is a sucker born every minute |
| 11:13.36 | trooper | kde is a huge project which i respect. i wanted to know what their toolset was |
| 11:13.42 | annma | KDE is free |
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| 11:13.51 | annma | that's the first thing to keep in mind |
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| 11:14.58 | annma | there were researches to assess KDE management but anytime we are asked to fill a survey we never get the results |
| 11:15.08 | annma | unfortunately |
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| 11:15.36 | annma | I'd love to see a real true analysis of KDE way of working |
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| 11:15.54 | trooper | annma: i don't see your point. there is an enormous amount of collaboration involved. you are telling me there aren't any tools in use to make life easier for developers. just wikis and mailing lists. that sounds like hell :\ |
| 11:16.28 | annma | you said first to "manage" |
| 11:16.36 | trooper | thats was the wrong word. you are hung up on it |
| 11:17.08 | annma | ways of work is INternet (mailing lists, IRC, wikis, ...) and once in a while real meeting |
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| 11:17.17 | annma | nothing more |
| 11:17.46 | reo_ | thats a pretty amazing thing, if one considers the utility of KDE. :) |
| 11:17.48 | annma | we agree on releasing at "this date" and a team makes a release plan |
| 11:18.06 | annma | techbase.kde.org has the release plan schedule |
| 11:18.29 | annma | I want to add "this" into KDE, Iadd "this" feature to the feature plan and I do it |
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| 11:18.55 | annma | being smart, Italk to the "this" area people beforehand |
| 11:19.09 | annma | to see if it fits in their vision |
| 11:19.15 | annma | but that's it |
| 11:19.17 | reo_ | that is exactly the opposite what users do! :\ |
| 11:19.32 | annma | users contribute |
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| 11:20.01 | reo_ | bug-filing? |
| 11:20.01 | annma | again today I got a contribution from a casual user (with a few development knowledge, yes) |
| 11:20.07 | annma | patch |
| 11:20.24 | annma | he sent me a mail and we worked from that |
| 11:21.42 | annma | reo_: hecould have filled a bug report probably |
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| 11:22.27 | reo_ | how can a very simple user contribute? who has no knowledge about dev. or proper bug filing (<-- like me). |
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| 11:22.55 | annma | he had knowledge but he also pointed a few problems on the websites which I fixed |
| 11:23.01 | trooper | reo_: imho, learn how to write a bug report. the feedback from "simple users" isn't useful :\ |
| 11:23.11 | reo_ | yep, i understand that. |
| 11:23.14 | annma | it is as I just said |
| 11:23.31 | annma | reo_: if you mail me and tell me about stuff I can fix, I'll fix it |
| 11:23.53 | annma | if it's out my expertize I'll tell you to file a bug report probably |
| 11:25.13 | reo_ | ok. will remember that. |
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| 11:26.24 | reo_ | can you point out an example about the process. (like today's one). |
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| 11:27.07 | trooper | there is no process. that is what the last couple hundreds lines of this chat are about ;) |
| 11:27.36 | annma | reo_: a single user can contribute to KDE wikis for a start |
| 11:27.46 | annma | also to kde mailing lists |
| 11:28.00 | reo_ | annma, thats a good one. thanks. |
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| 11:28.14 | annma | and you can mail people directly from the Help menu -> About <app> |
| 11:28.29 | annma | which I suppose is what users do when they mail me |
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| 11:50.21 | trooper | ooh. kplato looks interesting |
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| 12:06.52 | saurabhsood91 | hi all, i wanted to know if i could configure ublog plasmoid to work with twitter |
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| 12:25.39 | terietor | hello |
| 12:25.47 | terietor | is the commit digest working? |
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| 12:35.40 | dokma | hey guyz... I lost Alt+F2 after squeeze upgrade to kde4 |
| 12:35.48 | dokma | any easy fixes? |
| 12:36.18 | annma | did you lose the shortcut only or KRunner itself* |
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| 12:36.54 | annma | dokma: ^^ |
| 12:37.13 | dokma | annma: let me check on KRunner |
| 12:37.19 | annma | terietor: commit-digest.org works here |
| 12:37.44 | dokma | krunner is running |
| 12:37.58 | cb400f | is kded4 running? |
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| 12:38.09 | terietor | annma: is it synced with the git repos?because i am seeing the keywork "trunk". |
| 12:38.43 | dokma | I have this kdeinit4: kded4 |
| 12:38.54 | dokma | cb400f: is that the one? |
| 12:39.17 | annma | terietor: report to the digest guys |
| 12:39.28 | annma | not sure what you mean with "sync" |
| 12:40.01 | annma | terietor: what link is wrong exactly? "trunk" is still valid for some stuff |
| 12:40.13 | annma | kdesdk for example is still on svn |
| 12:40.35 | terietor | http://commit-digest.org/issues/latest/ |
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| 12:40.53 | annma | and? |
| 12:41.10 | annma | what to look for? |
| 12:41.35 | terietor | look under the commit summary |
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| 12:42.01 | annma | yes, this is valid trunk |
| 12:42.07 | terietor | oh i see |
| 12:42.09 | annma | there areno stats for git yet |
| 12:42.19 | terietor | thanks annma |
| 12:42.28 | terietor | you are very helpful as always :) |
| 12:42.29 | terietor | \ |
| 12:42.32 | annma | ;) |
| 12:42.41 | annma | the digest is quite difficult to produce |
| 12:42.57 | annma | and they did not manage to get stats from git yet |
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| 12:49.23 | retif | xmodmap allows to bind two buttons on one? |
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| 12:53.14 | Isis___ | Hello, Im running kde 4.6.2 on Ubuntu. How do i delete Activities? i cant find it, Thanks |
| 12:54.11 | reo_ | Isis___, right click > Activities. explore there |
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| 12:56.40 | Isis___ | ahhh the stop button, thanks! |
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| 12:57.32 | Isis___ | finally, should i find the new kde 4.6.3 in the kubuntu repository, its not in mine |
| 12:58.53 | reo_ | cant really say about distro-specific. |
| 12:59.00 | reo_ | ask in #kubuntu |
| 13:00.34 | RushPL | how to handle windows outside of screen? |
| 13:01.04 | RushPL | I have disconnected a monitor, disabled it from krandr but the windows cannot be accessed that were on the second screeen :( |
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| 13:05.46 | Isis___ | RushPL: have u tried with some windows view like ctrl+f8? |
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| 13:06.13 | Isis___ | or alt +tab |
| 13:06.25 | RushPL | it shows virtual desktops - and it shows my Windows on the first virtual desktop |
| 13:06.35 | RushPL | but when I zoom in, they are not there |
| 13:06.56 | RushPL | I assume they have their geometry on the second non existant physical screen |
| 13:07.24 | Isis___ | besides, if u restart X it should review your configuration and prepare your screen for the monitor ur running |
| 13:07.28 | RushPL | can I move windows by keyboard? |
| 13:07.44 | RushPL | Isis___: I attach my screen dynamically |
| 13:07.47 | RushPL | when I need it ... |
| 13:07.50 | RushPL | with krandr |
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| 13:08.07 | RushPL | it sometimes breaks .. |
| 13:08.49 | Isis___ | in the global keyboard shortcuts there is some for moving windows , mine is blank |
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| 13:47.47 | ani | guys whenever i startup kubuntu i drop to shell. i try startx and it says Call to lnusertemp failed (temporary directories full?). Check your installation... I searched online, and it says check if /var/tmp folder exists. It does exist and I also cleaned /var/tmp and /tmp. How do i get xorg to work again? |
| 13:50.56 | reo_ | ani, you most likely have some ownership issues. chown your home directory |
| 13:54.11 | ani | reo_: sudo chown <username> /home/userdirectory did not fix the problem |
| 13:54.56 | reo_ | ok. create a new user. and see if that solves the problem. |
| 13:55.55 | reo_ | btw, it should be chown -R <username> /home/userdir |
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| 13:56.04 | reo_ | recursive. |
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| 14:37.15 | policyq | RushPL: alt+f3, m |
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| 14:44.25 | RushPL | policyq: I enabled this by setting tiling to ON and later OFF. ;p |
| 14:44.32 | RushPL | I mean, I fixed this ... |
| 14:45.00 | RushPL | it was a rather lame fix because the problem is likely to occur in the future :/ |
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| 15:03.37 | policyq | RushPL: report it. havent had the problem with xinerama |
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| 15:04.11 | policyq | err twinview |
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| 16:55.31 | andrewSC | hi all |
| 16:55.54 | andrewSC | can someone recommend me a widget that is like netstat? |
| 16:56.07 | andrewSC | I've tried the two "netstat" widgets but they are broken atm |
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| 17:17.50 | alfanx | ok i have this strange issue with KDE in 4.5.5, i'm not sure what exactly is causing this, though i have an intel gfx card that uses i915 driver. I do have desktop effects enabled too. The issue comes when i use |
| 17:17.55 | alfanx | ncurses based programs like pkgtool, netconf, linux menuconfig etc, in the kde Konsole, without any warning kde crashes/logs out, at times it do kill the KDM instances too. Any ideas what might be causing this ? |
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| 17:19.03 | alfanx | i don't know how to replicate this, however hits points to konsole and ncurses resolution. might be the intel card. Have any one reported issues with ncurses and konsole ? |
| 17:20.27 | alfanx | i believe kde never got a chance to report the error in the dialog. crash is done all of sudden. |
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| 17:20.49 | Losowski | hi |
| 17:21.08 | Losowski | Are there any kde.org forum moderators active on this channel by any chance? |
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| 17:38.03 | rdieter | alfanx: most likely some sort of X/kernel video driver bug (ie, X is crashing) |
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| 17:40.01 | RushPL | is there a plasma widget that will show an output of some command? |
| 17:40.09 | RushPL | for example periodically redoing it |
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| 17:53.26 | Babalau | http://www.clubulfoto.com/concurs/concursul-lunii-mai/f944648c |
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| 18:03.12 | opensourcecat | hy guys |
| 18:03.36 | opensourcecat | any suggestion on how to export a list of files in a folder to an HTML page? |
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| 18:13.04 | MrWGW | does KDE4 work alright if you don't have 3D acceleration, like in a VM? |
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| 18:13.59 | slava_dp_ | kde.org is down |
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| 18:15.23 | rdieter | MrWGW: yes |
| 18:16.29 | MrWGW | thanks |
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| 18:16.52 | ompaul | slava_dp_: you should have checked here first http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://kde.org |
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| 18:25.03 | slava_dp_ | ompaul: must be my router, apologies |
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| 18:25.46 | ompaul | slava_dp_: no problemo, but that is a useful site to remember :) |
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| 20:19.01 | hawki | Hi, I have KDE 4.4.5 - I'd like to turn off the animation in the task switching display. (Task switching is brought up by hitting alt-tab and each additional tab key moves you to the next task/app on the desktop. ) is there a way to turn off the animation that slides to each next task, and just have it be immediate ( 900 Mhz cpu here, so I'd really like to get rid of it. ) |
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| 20:20.47 | hawki | ok weird. |
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| 20:21.22 | gremnon | are there any known incompatibilities with intel graphics and transparency in 4.6? |
| 20:21.22 | hawki | ok, Disconnected myself. |
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| 20:24.40 | apus | hawki: just deactivate the desktop effects? i guess then it will revert back to the old style switching |
| 20:25.37 | hawki | apus: hmm, i thought i had. I better check. Is there a global setting for that in the menus? |
| 20:25.53 | apus | yeah system-settings -> effects -> at the top there is a checkbox |
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| 20:26.41 | hawki | system settings-> look and feel-> desktop-> desktop effects :-) |
| 20:26.50 | hawki | i have kde 4.5.5 |
| 20:27.02 | hawki | apus: what version is yours? |
| 20:27.03 | apus | well i guess that depends entirely on your kde version ^^ and i have german text there |
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| 20:27.14 | apus | kde 4.6.3 and the plasmoids in combination with xinerama drive me crazy |
| 20:27.37 | apus | anyone here who has the problem that they appear always on both screens (the same plasmoid) as well? |
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| 20:28.48 | hawki | not me. :-) only 1 screen on this system. |
| 20:29.25 | apus | so it worked? you have the old switching back? |
| 20:30.09 | hawki | nope. |
| 20:30.21 | hawki | still slow slidey square. |
| 20:30.44 | apus | hm sorry then i have no idea ... just don't use it and get a bigger screen or just more than one ^^ |
| 20:30.48 | hawki | I probably have a screwed up config here. |
| 20:31.11 | apus | i have never tried to get rid of these effects ... therefore i can't help you |
| 20:32.08 | apus | hm okay so when i uncheck the desktop effects checkbox, i have no transparency in that switch thing |
| 20:34.12 | hawki | any highlight around the current teask? |
| 20:34.16 | hawki | *task |
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| 21:23.16 | ooki2day | hello |
| 21:23.21 | ooki2day | help me? pls |
| 21:23.21 | dlam | is there a way to disable compiz in KDE only? for example, i want to use compiz in Gnome, but use Kwin in KDE |
| 21:23.48 | James147 | dlam: normally kde will use kwin uness you tell it not to |
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| 21:24.22 | James147 | dlam: but can be configured at System settings > Default application > window manager |
| 21:24.32 | James147 | !ask | ooki2day |
| 21:25.02 | ooki2day | I choose recommended driver for nvidia, but when I click to enable desktop effects, i see this |
| 21:25.04 | ooki2day | Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values. |
| 21:25.04 | ooki2day | Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type. |
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| 21:29.14 | ooki2day | what can I do? |
| 21:29.52 | ooki2day | kwin --replace & don't helped me |
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| 21:30.01 | Zbuben | ooki2day: you tried to use nvidia.com's driver ? |
| 21:30.26 | Zbuben | ( in fact that's not really a kde issue, but you may try to blacklist the kernel module named "nouveau" ) |
| 21:30.52 | ooki2day | I use system->additional drever->recommended |
| 21:31.00 | ooki2day | *driver |
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| 21:31.57 | Zbuben | where do you use this option ? |
| 21:32.01 | ooki2day | but in kubuntu 10.10 it works perfecly |
| 21:32.17 | ooki2day | now I installed 11.04 |
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| 21:34.25 | ooki2day | what option? |
| 21:34.30 | Zbuben | hmmm I just looked for some similar issues in google but I think that's an ubuntu issue. |
| 21:36.17 | ooki2day | I tried search in google, but this problem occurs with ATI driver |
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| 21:36.38 | ooki2day | I can't find with nvidia |
| 21:36.39 | Zbuben | ooki2day: what does ps -e|grep nouveau says ? |
| 21:36.49 | ooki2day | moment |
| 21:37.05 | ooki2day | ps or ls? |
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| 21:37.17 | Zbuben | ps |
| 21:37.44 | Zbuben | hmmm, nouveau seems to be recommended .. In fact I don't really know which driver would be the best :) |
| 21:37.53 | ooki2day | nothing |
| 21:37.54 | ooki2day | O_o |
| 21:38.01 | Zbuben | and |grep nvidia ? |
| 21:38.24 | ooki2day | nothing |
| 21:38.32 | Zbuben | hu o_o |
| 21:38.52 | ooki2day | may be ls? |
| 21:38.55 | Zbuben | looks like you're running vesa :) |
| 21:39.06 | Zbuben | no ls lists files, I wanted you to look for kernel modules |
| 21:39.09 | Zbuben | hem |
| 21:39.13 | ooki2day | what is vesa? |
| 21:39.17 | Zbuben | lsmod -_- |
| 21:39.26 | Zbuben | try with lsmod instead of ps |
| 21:39.57 | Zbuben | ( ps lists processes .. I'm tired :p ) |
| 21:40.19 | leo_rockway | kwin --replace prints out the driver you're using |
| 21:40.41 | ooki2day | specifically lsmod? |
| 21:41.02 | leo_rockway | I'm a free software supporter myself, so this suggestion is biased, but I wouldn't touch the nvidia driver, not even with the light of a laser pointer. |
| 21:41.03 | Zbuben | lsmod|grep nvidia ( or nouveau ) |
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| 21:41.23 | Zbuben | leo_rockway: me too, I've got an intel card :p |
| 21:41.29 | ooki2day | nvidia 9766978 80 |
| 21:41.37 | leo_rockway | Zbuben: =] feels good, haha. I have one too. |
| 21:42.08 | Zbuben | ooki2day: I think you might get some support with ubuntu helpers to revert back to nouveau |
| 21:42.24 | ooki2day | k, thx |
| 21:42.36 | leo_rockway | ooki2day: did you try not enabling what ubuntu recommends? nouveau is getting better and it might be better for your card than the nvidia driver. |
| 21:43.20 | leo_rockway | Zbuben: I used to have an ATI card. The ATI drivers were what made me go all free software. Horrible horrible drivers. |
| 21:44.48 | ooki2day | leo_rockway: I use recommended driver |
| 21:45.28 | leo_rockway | ooki2day: IIRC, the nvidia driver (the one Canonical recommends) used to have (and maybe still has) problems with kwin. |
| 21:46.09 | leo_rockway | ooki2day: if it worked for you before and it doesn't work now that you changed Ubuntu versions, maybe the nvidia driver you were using was a different version (most likely) |
| 21:46.37 | leo_rockway | it might be that the one you're using now has regressions or something |
| 21:46.59 | leo_rockway | so if you still want to use the nvidia driver, you could check what version you were using before and keep using that version I guess. |
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| 21:47.54 | leo_rockway | but I'm far from being an expert on nonfree software |
| 21:48.11 | LjL | does KDE 4.6 have *any* provision for setting volumes and mutes and passthrus for the separate input and output lines of soundcards, like KMix in KDE3 had? |
| 21:48.36 | DeltaEpsilon | LjL: no |
| 21:48.42 | pinotree | you can configure the channels shown in kmix |
| 21:49.38 | pinotree | settings â configure channels |
| 21:49.52 | LjL | pinotree: but i don't see much of anything there aside from one input and one output |
| 21:50.02 | pinotree | using pulseaudio? |
| 21:50.25 | LjL | i think so, i've no idea though. i'm on Ubuntu 11.04 |
| 21:50.58 | pinotree | export KMIX_PULSEAUDIO_DISABLE=1 |
| 21:51.01 | LjL | i'm ready to switch to something else if i can and it allows me to set my lines |
| 21:51.02 | leo_rockway | Ubuntu --> pulseaudio |
| 21:51.23 | pinotree | put that line in your ~/.bashrc, for example |
| 21:52.04 | leo_rockway | pinotree: I didn't know that! Thanks =] |
| 21:52.04 | LjL | pinotree: now this is much better. but will it work correctly when the rest of KDE is still using Pulseaudio? |
| 21:52.21 | leo_rockway | I don't use Ubuntu myself, but I know a lot of people that do and pulseaudio seems to break more things than it fixes. |
| 21:52.22 | pinotree | that just says kmix to not use pulseaudio |
| 21:54.09 | LjL | well suppose i wanted to not use PulseAudio *anywhere*, because it's getting on my nerves already, would that be possible? |
| 21:56.24 | leo_rockway | LjL: this might be relevant: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PulseAudio |
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| 21:56.30 | leo_rockway | and http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=63380 |
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| 21:57.09 | leo_rockway | in the first link there's a "pulseaudio removal" subsection |
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| 22:01.18 | LjL | thanks. i'm trying removing pulseaudio. it seems i will have problems with GNOME if i do that, but oh well. |
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| 22:05.08 | leo_rockway | LjL: unfortunately, that's probably true. |
| 22:05.18 | DeltaEpsilon | seems a lot users are migrating to kde 4 after the release of gnome 3/unity |
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| 22:06.55 | leo_rockway | I haven't tried either yet, but requiring 3D acceleration from the get-go sounds a bit silly to me. |
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| 22:08.12 | Ichigo | Doesn't KDE have some built in screencapping app? |
| 22:08.34 | DeltaEpsilon | found a bug in Amarok :( |
| 22:08.41 | Ichigo | recordMyDesktop doesn't work properly on my laptop for some reason, and I'm wanting something that can record all the eye-candy effects and wahtnot. |
| 22:08.52 | DeltaEpsilon | a basic feature not working correctly, namely the slider at the top |
| 22:08.57 | DeltaEpsilon | I can't seek |
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| 22:13.55 | szadek | Hi people can someone help me sync ipad with amarok ? it shows in local Music as Apple ipad , but it says it has 0 tracks ( Im on kubuntu natty with amarok 2.4.1 ) |
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| 22:19.22 | leo_rockway | Ichigo: screencap soft + desktop effects require really good hardware. I've always used Qtrecordmydesktop, but I think I always disable desktop effects when I use it. |
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| 22:22.08 | Ichigo | leo_rockway, Amazingly I can't find that in my repos or the Arch AUR, maybe I'm mistyping it |
| 22:22.28 | leo_rockway | Ichigo: it's in the repos |
| 22:22.31 | leo_rockway | qt-recordmydesktop |
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| 22:23.17 | Ichigo | Yeah, just found it |
| 22:23.21 | leo_rockway | but qt-recordmydesktop is only a frontend to recordmydesktop, so if the latter didn't work the former won't either |
| 22:23.24 | Ichigo | Forgot the dash |
| 22:23.30 | Ichigo | I figured |
| 22:23.38 | Ichigo | But figured it couldn't kill to try. |
| 22:23.48 | leo_rockway | aur also has a krecordmydesktop |
| 22:23.56 | leo_rockway | which I never heard of before, but it's flagged out of date. |
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| 22:25.43 | Ichigo | Yeah. |
| 22:25.47 | Ichigo | It'll record |
| 22:26.14 | Ichigo | But it just won't record properly.. hang on, I can show you if you want. If you think you'd have an idea |
| 22:27.41 | Ichigo | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KRQ14B9F |
| 22:29.20 | leo_rockway | I don't really know about screencapping, but I'll take a look. |
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| 22:30.41 | leo_rockway | Ichigo: I'm at work behind a proxy, so I get "Download limit exceeded" =; |
| 22:30.45 | leo_rockway | =[ |
| 22:31.03 | Ichigo | >.< |
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| 22:34.47 | leo_rockway | Ichigo: there's istanbul, but the one in AUR is flagged out of date. |
| 22:35.54 | leo_rockway | Ichigo: I also see this: |
| 22:35.56 | leo_rockway | aur/recorditnow 0.8.1-2 (53) |
| 22:35.58 | leo_rockway | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:36.27 | leo_rockway | it's worth a try, I guess |
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| 22:47.07 | Ichigo | leo_rockway, Thanks, I'll check that out |
| 22:48.09 | leo_rockway | Ichigo: no problem. I hope it works better for you. |
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| 22:52.15 | Ichigo | recorditnow seems to be some universal wrapper |
| 22:52.20 | Ichigo | for RecordMyDesktop and others |
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| 22:58.30 | leo_rockway | oh, I see |
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| 23:00.13 | dacresni | are there any plans to update quanta? |
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| 23:05.46 | Ichigo | Well I've got ffmpeg running good now actually |
| 23:05.56 | Ichigo | ffmpeg -f alsa -ac 2 -f x11grab -s $(xwininfo -root | grep 'geometry' | awk '{print $2;}') -r 10 -i :0.0 -sameq -f mp4 -y output.mp4 |
| 23:06.10 | Ichigo | Still /slightly/ choppy though. |
| 23:07.37 | leo_rockway | I'll save that line, I'm sure it will come handy sometime. Thanks =] |
| 23:07.50 | leo_rockway | and now I leave. Bye! |
| 23:07.56 | Ichigo | Heheh, alright, bye |
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| 23:11.55 | dacresni | can I get kde development news? |
| 23:11.57 | dacresni | here |
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