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01:07.12DoctorPepperhi guys!!!
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01:35.33Guest30302hey
01:35.36Guest30302somebody ?
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01:39.03szalsomebody what?
01:40.30Guest30302nohing i fix
01:40.34Guest30302my problem...
01:40.40Guest30302well i think that lol
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06:13.21kevin__mount problem
06:13.21kevin__not bale to mount the partitionsby clicking the icons in the "places" side bar in dolphin
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07:04.44yecril71plThe Color Settings control panel does not show the background colour in the Preview panel
07:05.19yecril71plyou have to apply the colour scheme to get the background
07:06.16VergeIt actually shows the previous background color
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07:16.13yecril71plWhen KMail does not use own colours, which colours does it use?
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07:19.21thiago_homethe system's
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07:19.54yecril71plBut the system does not have a colour for quotation levels, does it?
07:20.24thiago_homeno, it probably has a few colours of its own
07:20.58yecril71plSo, when I want to have a dark background, I have to tell KMail to use own colours?
07:21.26yecril71plBecause otherwise quotations are not readable
07:21.38thiago_homeare you asking if that will happen, or are you telling it happens?
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07:22.19yecril71plI switched the colour scheme to Suze and KMail did not adjust quotation colours
07:22.28thiago_homeok, then use your own colouring
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07:23.31yecril71plSo, when KMail does not use own colours, those special colours are taken from KMail’s defaults?
07:23.41thiago_homeI guess so
07:25.01yecril71plBut I do not see any colour class in KMail colour settings that could be directly inferred from System
07:25.29yecril71plExcept for Hyperlink, and statur bar, that is
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07:26.12thiago_homebackground, normal text, etc.
07:26.49yecril71plThere is KMail-specific setting for those, even if I use own colours
07:27.23yecril71plThere are settings for quotations, spelling errors, message classification, signature evaluation
07:27.37yecril71plEverything is very KMail-specific
07:28.19yecril71plThere is no KMail-specific setting for background or normal text
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07:29.22yecril71plSince most of the colours cannot be inherited, KMail should support colour schemes
07:30.18yecril71plespecially because the default setting is unreadable with a dark background
07:30.29MarcoPauhello, since my last upgrade to 4.6.2 I have been getting double notifications, one on the bottom right corner and the other one on the top left. do you know how to fix tis?
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07:43.43tdncb400f, thanks!
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08:09.19szalhmmm..  is it configurable whether or not and at which point the panel height is displayed in the panel options?  in openSUSE (11.4/Tumbleweed, KDE 4.6.3) I get a value displayed when changing the height, in Kubuntu (Natty, KDE 4.6.3) I get no value displayed
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08:10.04kichawahello, i couldn't switch to opengl composite :<
08:10.35kichawaafter i changed to xrender
08:10.57kichawait seems like this http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/409569-switch-opengl-xrender-opengl-not-possible.html
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08:15.09kichawakwin(5042) KWin::Workspace::setupCompositing: KWin has detected that your OpenGL library is unsafe to use, falling back to XRender.
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09:08.00AldaronHi! Just installed a new Slackware, and got a question about the digital clock. It's showing time as "12:10 pm". I want to get rid of the "pm" in there. How would I do that? It's not in the clock's appearance settings (I think it was in some previous version)
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09:09.41reo_set it to 24 hour format
09:10.19Aldaronright. How? It's not in the clock's settings
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09:11.30AldaronI'm hoping the setting just moved, but.. .. Seems it's kde 4.5.5 here
09:13.55Aldaronalso I have HH:MM:SS as time format in system settings. Then again, maybe I didn't reboot after setting that -_-
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09:15.49AldaronOkay, that did the trick
09:16.15AldaronThen noticed another annoyance. Seems that the login window loses focus if mouse cursor is on another screen :(
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09:36.21gameaccountHi. I am using opensuse 11.4 with KDE 4.6.x. I tried to install a new plasma theme. The install worked according to the GHNS dialogue, but the theme is not displayed in the settings. What went wrong?
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10:09.05alban_Hi all
10:11.19alban_I really have performance issues with KDE4 apps
10:11.33alban_for example Kmymoney 4 is unbearably slow
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10:11.53alban_while kmymoney from kde3 (installed also on the same system) is really fast
10:12.02alban_for scrolling down a ledger for example
10:12.12alban_desktop effects are disabled
10:12.27alban_using nvidia drivers 270.41 (the latest)
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10:13.16alpha080how to right click on the picture and set it as wallpaper?
10:13.36alban_I'm actually seriously considering to switch back to KDE3 or Trinity KDE, but maybe there are ways to make kde4 faster ?
10:14.14alpha080not to Use the desktop settings to choose the background
10:14.25alpha080just righe click
10:15.36alban_alpha080: maybe you need to install/create a servicemenu for that ?
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10:28.48mikalahello,
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10:29.17mikalais it possible to know which app is using ~/.kde/share/config/kdedrc or at least looking for it on first kde start
10:29.59mikalai've got a notification about this file on the first start (& only this one)
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10:31.14mikalaon a second start there's no more notification
10:31.25pinotreewhat does the notification say?
10:31.27mikalai can reproduce it with a mageia & a fedora 15
10:32.06mikala<PROTECTED>
10:32.06mikalapas inscriptible. Veuillez contacter votre administrateur système. » in french
10:32.21mikalaso the this file is unwritable
10:32.21pinotreeand its title?
10:32.28neoclustmikala: never saw this on mandriva strange
10:32.35mikalahum
10:32.46mikalai'll install it again on a mageia & take a screenshot
10:32.49mikalait would be easier
10:32.58mikalas/mageia/vm
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10:35.49szalmoin pinotree..  got an idea where to set whether or not the panel height is displayed in the panel options?  I compared that yesterday out of curiosity; on openSUSE (KDE 4.6.3) the panel height as a value is displayed when changing the panel height, on Kubuntu (also KDE 4.6.3) the panel height value isn't shown at all
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10:36.31mikalaszal: you can configure it.
10:36.36szalmikala: where?
10:37.13mikalakcsmshell4 kwintabbox
10:37.46szalsomeone should make an effort to document all the kcmshell stuff ^^
10:38.15mikalaszal: well it's just systemsettings
10:38.48mikala& i'm wrong
10:38.55mikalait's kcmsell4 kwinoptions
10:39.00mikalafor a direct access
10:39.03mikala& not kwintabbox
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10:40.26szalmikala: and where exactly would there be something that relates to my question?
10:40.45pinotreeszal: so you have a screenshot?
10:40.50pinotrees/so/do/
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10:41.16mikalaszal: on the tab Moving
10:41.44mikalahum
10:41.51mikalamaybe i misread :/
10:41.54szalmikala: no, that relates to windows, not to the panel
10:41.56cobra-the-jokerHey guys .... some friend of mine has kubuntu 11.04 and he has some wierd problem here ... when he change his screen resolution and then restart ... it returns back to the default ... any help ?
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10:42.27cb400fhow does he change it?
10:42.46cobra-the-jokerfrom the control panel
10:42.50cobra-the-jokerthe ordinary way
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10:43.55cb400fthere's no ordinary way :-) .. most people use crappy gfx drivers that don't support xrandr.. including me
10:44.22cobra-the-joker:D ... he has intel gfx ... which is supposed to be automatically configured
10:44.28cb400fdoes he remember to "Set as default" when he changes it with krandr
10:44.37cobra-the-jokeryes
10:44.38cb400fand does he have >= 4.6 ?
10:44.46cobra-the-jokeryes ... its 11.04
10:45.09szalpinotree: http://www.abload.de/img/20110518_panelheightqnjy.png <- see the value for "Height" in the centre
10:45.27szalpinotree: my question is, is there a way to configure when this value is displayed
10:45.49cb400fhm.. worked for me when I tested it on opensuse with 4.6.0 and intel gfx
10:46.13cobra-the-jokerfor me too :S ... maybe the monitor isnt detected right ?
10:46.54pinotreeszal: couldn't it be some opensuse patch?
10:47.12szalpinotree: that's a good question, no idea
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10:48.06szaldo we have Arch users here?  they take stuff mostly unchanged from upstream
10:48.35mikalaszal: i don't have this on my mageia (if it can help)
10:48.58cb400fszal: maybe ask in #plasma if the feature is there in vanilla.. iirc it's been heavily debated if the pixel values should be there or not
10:49.14szalcb400f: k, thx
10:49.29cb400fcobra-the-joker: sure he doesn't have some old funky xorg.conf lying around?
10:49.52cobra-the-jokernope
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10:56.48cobra-the-jokercb400f , it seems that the monitor detection isnt going so well ... thanx for the help
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11:01.10malgarhello! mandriva spring 2010, kde 4.5.3 . I would like to reset all the settings about activities and plasma without affecting other kde apps. What should I delete?
11:02.25cb400f.kde/share/config/plasma*
11:02.36cb400fbut you have to do it while plasma is not running
11:02.52cb400for the bad settings will be "restored"
11:03.24cobra-the-jokercb400f: thats for me ?
11:03.52malgarcb400f: tnx
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11:21.54mikalapinotree: sorry for the delay the screenshoot : http://www.flickr.com/photos/34289424@N07/5733439464/
11:22.38mikalapinotree: i'm wondering if it's not due to a missing $kdehome folder in fact
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11:58.14yecril71plIs it possible to open add a docbook to KHelpCenter?
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12:54.00volterHello!
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12:54.55volterShould the address book work fine with LDAP?
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13:00.04AciDhi
13:00.54AciDwhat's the keyboard shortcuts to the "Ok" button and "Cancel" button you can find in most kde window app (specially in modal windows) ?
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13:04.31cb400fAlt + <whatever letters are underlined>
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13:10.31AciDcb400f: of course ! thx
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13:46.34Tasserkdevelop - how to use the project folder in startup configurations?
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13:56.27VergeI made an app and created an installation package for my distro and installed it
13:56.45VergeI copied to .desktop file from another app and modified it to display my own icon
13:56.58VergeBut KDE doesn't display it in the "start menu" nor in Krunner
13:57.02VergeGnome 3.0 seems to find it
13:57.15VergeThe launcher is displayed but with no icon
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13:57.42VergeAny special tricks to perform with KDE?
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13:59.15pinotreecan you pastebin the .desktop file?
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14:00.09VergeOk now it popped up in Krunner
14:00.24VergeMaybe the start menu caches it somewhere
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14:08.58oimonhi, does anyone know how i can get tellico to import a list of movies? i have a list of 13-character EAN codes to be imported and searched
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14:31.30oimonthanks for the overwhelming response :P i discovered that you can enable an amazon web search
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14:34.58Raging_HogHow could I create a control, say, an icon in the panel or on desktop that I could use to toggle the setting "Switch desktop on edge" between Disabled and Always? I'm running 4.4.5.
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14:51.10rindolfHi all. I'm on Mandriva Linux Cooker with kdebase4-workspace-4.6.3-1-mdv2011.0.i586 - when I start KDE using startx, then the KDE panel is non-responsive for many seconds (at least 30 seconds I think). I can still use Ctrl+F1, Ctrl+F2, move the mouse, use Alt+F2, etc.
14:51.14rindolfCan anyone help?
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14:57.01rindolfOK, it's fine in a new UNIX user account.
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15:14.10xi_kde4 works, but it starts completely black. I can start apps using Alt-F2, but there is no desktop or panel. I tried removing ~/.kde, but nothing changed
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15:20.06Peace-xi_: alt f2
15:20.14Peace-xi_: plasma-desktop
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15:23.56xi_does not work
15:24.30Peace-xi_: konsole
15:24.38Peace-xi_: locate plasma-
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15:25.55Peace-xi_: sorry ;  run this >>>   echo  $(type plasma-desktop)
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15:26.28JoeSomebodyhi, how would i add an icon to the panel that is not in my menus? i usually add to panel by right clicking in the menus
15:26.54xi_Peace: I tried running the executable from terminal and got an error: /usr/bin/plasma-desktop.kde4 missing
15:27.11Peace-xi_: mm something isbad in your system
15:27.14Peace-xi_: distro ?
15:27.14pinotreexi_: how did you install kde?
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15:27.39xi_Peace: Ubuntu, installed it from repos
15:27.47Peace-xi_: omg ...
15:27.52Peace-xi_: i have kutuntu right now
15:28.07Peace-so i gues you have badly installed it
15:28.28Peace-xi_: ok wait
15:28.54JoeSomebodyis there a widget for that?
15:29.25Peace-JoeSomebody: wait you too
15:29.32JoeSomebody:)
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15:29.39Peace-xi_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall  kdebase-workspace
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15:30.17Peace-JoeSomebody: it's simple just create a launcher
15:30.26Peace-JoeSomebody: for example open dolphin right click
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15:31.04Peace-create new link to application
15:31.10Peace-or link to device
15:31.40Peace-then just drag and drop the launcher on the panel or in the desktop
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15:33.48Peace-xi_: btw               >>>       sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-destkop
15:34.08xi_Peace: worked, thanks
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15:37.43JoeSomebodythen just drag and drop the launcher on the panel? if that worked i would not be asking, explain
15:38.19Peace-xD well explain
15:38.22JoeSomebodyi already have it on the desktop, cant get it to the panel no way no how that i can see
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15:38.33Peace-JoeSomebody: scrennshot?^
15:38.43Peace-screenshot
15:38.59JoeSomebodyits an icon for diskdrake script
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15:39.18Peace-it's a script ?
15:39.30JoeSomebodywould like it on my panel
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15:39.43JoeSomebodyits my disk mgmt
15:40.34JoeSomebodyor a shortcut on the panel,  whatever a shortcut is called in linuxland, launcher i guess?
15:40.46JoeSomebodystill getting my sea legs
15:40.53Peace-:S you have to write better next time , i figured out what you meant , btw .... you can save the script somwhere , the you have to put on the laucher : /path/to/script/./namescript
15:41.32Peace-=======> note=====> /path/to/script/ =====>./namescript
15:42.27JoeSomebodyi am still confused? where is my desktop located on the drive?
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15:43.22Peace-JoeSomebody: wait a moment
15:43.55JoeSomebodynp, i put the icon there a long time ago, and i didnt know how, someone helped me
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15:46.26Peace-JoeSomebody: i am recording a gif
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15:52.36JoeSomebodyfor when you get back, i have gone thru every widget that can be added to the panel and i see nothing that will help me add an icon, application launcher sounded like it , but thats a menu
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15:52.44Peace-JoeSomebody: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/18/helloworld.gif
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15:52.50Peace-i was down :S
15:53.12JoeSomebodywhy would whoever make it this un-obvious?
15:53.39JoeSomebodycurrently searching youtube for a video clue
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15:54.28JoeSomebodyand i found NOTHING i cant figure out myself, why dont these people make USEFUL videos? :)
15:54.36Peace-JoeSomebody: have you seen the gif?
15:56.19JoeSomebodygetting there ...
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15:56.51JoeSomebodyits going too fast
15:57.11Peace-to run a script you need to run /path/to/script/./scriptname , that should be used into the laucher .....
15:57.13JoeSomebodyas in way troo fast
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15:58.21JoeSomebodyis there any way to make that play properly?
15:58.58Peace-:S
15:59.08JoeSomebodyi still do not understand, or you don't, i mentioned that i CANNOT drag to MY panel, so how can you change that?
15:59.40JoeSomebodyi just need to know how to put a stupid icon on the panel, i'm sure i can handle it from there
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16:00.23JoeSomebodybut putting on MY panel is for some reason , not possible i guess
16:00.45JoeSomebodyor i misunderstand the whole fracking thing
16:01.16JoeSomebodyright click the panel, NOTHING
16:01.22JoeSomebodydrag to the panel NOTHING
16:01.40JoeSomebodyright click an icon desktop NOTHING
16:01.44JoeSomebody:)
16:02.17JoeSomebodyso , it would seem that if not in my menu , it can't be added
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16:02.29JoeSomebodyi cant explain it better
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16:03.02JoeSomebodyi saw your video but it went too fast, it looked like you can drag, but i cant
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16:03.15JoeSomebodywhy cant i??
16:03.16Peace-JoeSomebody: ok you have some bad problems
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16:03.57Peace-JoeSomebody: create a new user and try if you have that problem
16:03.59JoeSomebodyhow can that be? its a clean install
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16:04.23Peace-JoeSomebody: can you do the drag and drop with other stuff?
16:04.33JoeSomebodyyes
16:04.37Peace-xD
16:04.57Peace-JoeSomebody: could do a gif ?
16:04.59JoeSomebodyexplain EXACTLY how i drag to the panel and from EXACTLY where
16:05.17JoeSomebodyas if i am a total moron
16:05.48JoeSomebodymaybe i am missing something
16:05.49Peace-JoeSomebody: there is no where exactly you have to put
16:05.58Peace-i can drag and drop where i want
16:06.32Peace-JoeSomebody: byzanz-record  --delay=3 --duration=30 --cursor  plasma_howto-throw-ball.gif
16:06.43Peace-JoeSomebody: of course you need byzanz-record
16:06.49Peace-that create a gif
16:06.58Peace-you have 30 seconds for that gif
16:07.13JoeSomebodyyou can huh? add widgets?
16:07.25JoeSomebodyhow? tell me how you can
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16:07.46JoeSomebodyi cant see a freakin way and its getting me very pissed at kde
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16:08.33JoeSomebodythis is my 3rd install and every time there is no dragging to panel
16:08.48JoeSomebodyi assumed it cant be done, but google indicates yes
16:09.07JoeSomebodynow why woudl my distro continually screw me here?
16:09.18JoeSomebodyPCLinuxOS KDE
16:09.27Peace-JoeSomebody:  http://blip.tv/PeaceForlinux/postare-uno-screenshot-velocemente-con-kde4-4894119
16:09.45Peace-JoeSomebody: do the gif
16:09.56Peace-and post it on with pastebin as shown on the video
16:13.15Peace-JoeSomebody: i dunno your problem but here on kubuntu i have no problems
16:13.27Peace-JoeSomebody: btw idon't believe it's a pclinuxos
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16:13.31Peace-fault
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16:15.49JoeSomebodyi am trying to se that video, it wont full screen ,and is again too fast, why is is too fast?
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16:16.26JoeSomebodyi shall put in on their forum if we cant get it in another 10 minutes
16:16.38JoeSomebodyi dont want to waste your time
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16:20.59JoeSomebodyok i got it, i see what you were not geting as well
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16:21.40JoeSomebodyi have an icon, it cant do shit, cant go anywhere, whoever helped me at first was bad i guess
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16:21.46JoeSomebodythis i didnt know until just now
16:22.45JoeSomebodyi created as per your dolphin thing , why a file manager is used i dont understand
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16:22.59JoeSomebodyit shoudl be desktop used, not a file manager
16:23.12JoeSomebodyno wonder i stood no chance huh
16:24.02JoeSomebodyeven if i had a mac i probably could start FROM the desktop, isnt that common sense
16:24.21JoeSomebodyyet i cant start from the desktop where i want the icon
16:24.46JoeSomebodyseems pretty ackwardsb to me
16:24.48JoeSomebody:)
16:25.23JoeSomebodyis there a kde for dummies somewhere, or easy webguides for people who are used to windows?
16:26.15leo_rockwayJoeSomebody: what are you trying to do?
16:26.29JoeSomebodyi cant understand, every other thing in my system can be dragged and dropped but that one icon, very funny whoever
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16:27.29JoeSomebodysomeone played a joke on me long ago, on making icons, launchers, shortcuts, whatever they are called
16:29.09JoeSomebodyi have an icon on the panel now for it, icon itself sucks tho, any way to change it?
16:29.30JoeSomebodyit looks like a piece of paper with an edge folded
16:29.40Peace-right click ?
16:29.43Peace-bahs
16:29.48Peace-it's like in windows
16:29.52leo_rockwayJoeSomebody: are your widgets unlocked?
16:29.52Peace-:S
16:30.00JoeSomebodyit is my disk mgmt , an icon liek a cogwheel woudl be nice or a hdd
16:30.06JoeSomebodyunlocked yes
16:30.21leo_rockwayJoeSomebody: can you take a screenshot maybe?
16:30.57JoeSomebodyi can, is there  pastepic.cpm ?
16:31.56JoeSomebodyunder icon settings there is no change icon, why? arrgggg
16:32.12JoeSomebodyeven the oldest windows version have that
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16:32.59leo_rockwayJoeSomebody: it can be done. If you show us a screenshot maybe we'll be able to help you, if not then there's nothing I can do. Sorry.
16:33.32JoeSomebodyi have never posted a screenshot before, tell me where
16:34.02JoeSomebodypastebin has nothing
16:35.24Peace-JoeSomebody: #pclinuxos
16:36.01JoeSomebodyapparently you are not familiar with my distro - no irc support
16:36.27JoeSomebodythe ONLY thing i don't like about it
16:36.51Peace-JoeSomebody: if you wanna support for totally nobs i guess kubuntu it's the best
16:36.59JoeSomebodyi have converted many wiondows user to pclos kde
16:37.07JoeSomebodyi am sticking to my guns
16:37.28JoeSomebodyno ubuntu is for ms fanboys imo
16:37.31Peace-i have said do a screenshot
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16:37.36Peace-i have said post the screenshot
16:37.39JoeSomebodybeen there done that
16:37.40Peace-you didn't
16:37.40leo_rockway[05/18/11 13:33:32] <JoeSomebody> i have never posted a screenshot before, tell me where <-- http://ur1.ca/47nv8
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16:46.49JoeSomebodyhang on i need to learn a couple things just to give a proper pic, its not windows image tools i am dealing with, and i am not rebooting, i dont do that anymore, i man up and learn the linux way :)
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16:49.00AluminI have stopped and re-started gpg-agent; as such, the $GPG_AGENT_INFO environment variable that the top-level KDE processes have is obsolete
16:49.33AluminI've found a way (using gdb) to set the new value in a process' environment, such that it will be exported out to that process' children
16:49.59Aluminbut I can't figure out which KDE process is "upstream" from Kontact...I tried plasma-desktop but that didn't do the trick
16:50.04AluminI'm launching Kontact via the K menu
16:50.42Aluminand yes, this is a purely academic exercise...if I just wanted it done I'd simply log out of and back in to KDE
16:51.31pinotreekdeinit4
16:53.23Alumininteresting
16:53.27leo_rockway<Alumin> and yes, this is a purely academic exercise... <--- interesting. I never thought of doing that =]
16:53.38Aluminthat's the process that gdb said it was detaching from after I attached to the PID of plasma-desktop
16:53.58Aluminlemme give it another go
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16:54.32Aluminleo_rockway: yeah, it's kinda exciting in a 'I wonder if this will destabilize my system' kind of way :P
16:55.05leo_rockwayAlumin: yup, I love doing that, haha.
16:55.15leo_rockwayyou learn a lot that way.
16:56.28Aluminindeed
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16:59.25JoeSomebodyok, what part do you want a screenshot of ?
17:00.43JoeSomebodya part of the panel where i have the icon now?
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17:04.01reo_whatever you think will help us
17:04.22Aluminhey, it worked that time
17:04.42AluminI guess there was something different about attaching to plasma-desktop versus kdeinit4
17:04.54Aluminoh, it must have been a different instance of kdeinit4
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17:07.04Aluminthanks pinotree, helpful as usual :)
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17:09.11JoeSomebodyi have an icon on my panel now for that script, i want to change the image of that icon, can i?
17:11.16rezbitKDE 4.6.2, Gentoo, Is it a known bug for konqueror not to autoplay on youtube playlists?
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17:14.47Peace-rezbit: konqueror and youtube?
17:14.52Peace-rezbit: use firefox
17:14.52reo_JoeSomebody, create a link on desktop. right click > properties > click on the icon and modify. then Drag the link file to the panel.
17:15.15Peace-rezbit: i was a konqueror fan but... noway it doesn't work
17:15.33rezbitYes, I am aware of firefox.
17:15.46Peace-everytime problems and problems with firefox4 i got a godzilla browser but at least it works
17:16.02rezbitI liked konq because of the integration, kio.
17:16.14reo_rezbit, you can try and set it to use webkit instead of khtml. then probably try it.
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17:16.44Peace-btw i use firefox and html5 on youtube
17:16.47Peace-instead of flash
17:16.48rezbitThere's a upstream bug in webkit that causes it to crash, currently ;)
17:16.54Peace-:)
17:17.16reo_:0
17:18.47Peace-rezbit: trust me download firefox4 and go on ==> google ==youtube html5 ==> join
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17:20.35JoeSomebodyreo_, that did it, on the panel and looking pretty now, thanks  guys
17:20.51reo_:D
17:20.52rezbitPeace-: Yes, I know. Flash still works better btw.
17:21.21JoeSomebodyi'll try to be more supportable next time, believe it or not, i am still tryting to find a place to upload my pic that will work
17:22.07JoeSomebodytinypic and imgur not working - no idea why
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17:22.14pinotreeimageshack.us?
17:22.24naderhi where is kde classic mouse theme location?
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17:23.15pinotreewe don't have any "classic mouse theme"
17:23.21rezbitPeace-: Thanks for your input though.
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17:26.00reo_JoeSomebody, imagebin
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17:29.02JoeSomebodyimagebin.com is a blank screen
17:29.23reo_.org
17:29.24JoeSomebodythis don't look right , but here - http://img190.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img190/7605/snapshot5c.png
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17:30.43JoeSomebodythis looks better http://imagebin.org/153872
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17:31.40JoeSomebodyits now there left of the dolphin file cabinet icon
17:32.39reo_that is the symbol of the filesystem.
17:33.00reo_what does <right-click> on that show
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17:37.56Neil_Hi guys, does anyone in here use the PPTP network manager plugin for KDE? For some reason it seems to do absolutly nothing when I click on it to connect. However setting up the PPTP client provided by http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/#gettingstarted works OK
17:38.08Neil_the KDE one is more convient so I would like to use that
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17:51.06ryrychgood evening!
17:52.13ryrychcould you tell me what category does sysem tray fall under in KDE bugzilla?
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17:57.16ompaulryrych: it is reported usually as componentgeneral
17:57.20Oleg_hi. please tell me what keyboard shortcut I should use if I want the letter K to be pressed on the panel
17:57.50ryrychompaul: ok, thanks
17:57.56Oleg_the window key doesn't do this job, it seems
17:58.18ompaulOleg_: whatever one you want - please right click on it and go to the keyboard shortcuts you can then assign one there is none
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18:02.06Oleg_okay, I went to the Application Launcher settings, and it doesn't allow the window key to be assigned. When I pressed on the window key, "Meta+" appears in the input list
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18:02.29Oleg_I guess it wants a two-key combination
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18:02.51Oleg_but what if I want to press just one key to access the K menu?
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18:04.41ryrychcan you tell me if icons overlapping in the tray has been fixed? can’t find the releant bug report…
18:06.10ompaulryrych: what version and what distro
18:06.23ryrychompaul: KDE 4.6.2/Kubuntu
18:07.33ompaulryrych: 4 6 2 debian not happening here
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18:08.09ryrychompaul: I experience it every day
18:08.25ompaulryrych: does not make it happen here, suggest you consult with your distro
18:09.15Oleg_ompaul, you are on Debian Unstable? 'Cause I am pretty sure Debian Stable doesn't include kde-4.6.2
18:09.19ompaulOleg_: it does require two key strokes
18:09.45ompaulOleg_: mixture of SID and qt-kde.debian.org
18:10.00ompaulwhich is experimental repo
18:10.07ompaulwoops
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18:12.42JoeSomebodyLOL so if you need a laugh, i was trying to drag a copy of a script, not an icon launcher to that script, and didnt know the diff DOH! maybe some other noob will get this who knows
18:13.14ompaulJoeSomebody: ENOPARSE
18:13.52ompaulJoeSomebody: or to put it another way, are you still stuck, and if so what exactly do you want as the end product ;-)
18:14.19JoeSomebodyno i am fine, just so you know
18:14.33reo_:))
18:14.37JoeSomebodyanother may screw up like that
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18:15.09reo_its a good thing that you came up on that one yourself.
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18:15.30reo_btw, no one else could have helped you, unless by using teamviewer. :p
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18:18.35JoeSomebodymore reading is required, or are there videos?
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18:20.26reo_just use it. and learn on the way.
18:21.39JoeSomebodywill do, i do plan to read my distro mags
18:21.54reo_those are also cool.
18:22.19reo_read the forum too.
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18:27.30a931bwHow do i create new Widget style?
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18:31.44a931bwis it possible to make something like that in kde?
18:31.45a931bwhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/25/ThumbnailWin7.png
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18:33.54reo_a931bw, try Smooth Tasks plasmoid.
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18:34.46a931bwreo, where can i find it
18:35.26reo_which distro?
18:35.45a931bwgentoo
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18:37.42reo_oh.
18:37.57reo_then you will need to find out yourself.
18:38.14reo_but smooth-tasks plasmoid should work for you to show that appearance.
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18:43.52reo_a931bw, see this. http://rahulthewall.wordpress.com/2010/05/11/the-perfect-kde4-setup/
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18:46.41a931bwReo thanks
18:46.48a931bwjust compiled Smooth tasks
18:46.55a931bwit was what i was looking for
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18:49.20reo_:))
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18:49.43a931bwi'm going to make my kde look like win7 :)
18:50.02reo_actually its the other way round!
18:50.15reo_win vista /7 have taken a lot of ideas from kde.
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18:50.37a931bwi know :)
18:50.44a931bwi just want to make a win7
18:50.48a931bwi like aero style
18:51.02a931bwi don't want to make it one to one
18:51.07a931bwjust a something similar
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18:51.17reo_to confuse your friends.
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18:51.39a931bwnot really
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18:52.02a931bwas i said, i like aero :)
18:52.08reo_kk
18:52.11Aluminman...it's freakin' COLD in Zurich
18:52.15Alumin:)
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18:52.31a931bwAlumin how cold?
18:53.03Aluminbetween -2 and 0 Celsius according to that guy's wallpaper hehe
18:53.13reo_lol
18:53.32a931bwin Lithuania its 14 Celisius
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18:54.06a931bwHow do i edit KDE theme?
18:54.11a931bwi mean Desktop theme
18:54.22Aluminspeaking of weather
18:54.37Aluminis there a plasmoid that will show the current weather and a forecast?
18:55.32reo_a931bw, i think you can modify all its aspects.
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18:57.26Aluminit's about 44°C here right now, now that's more like it
18:57.33a931bwreo_ where?
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18:57.56Aluminf a lot of zero
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18:59.24a931bwtime to find win7 icons
18:59.25a931bwlo
18:59.28reo_a931bw, configure desktop > workspace > desktop theme. tab of details. modify as much as you want.
19:00.00a931bwSeriously?
19:00.03a931bwthat's all i can edit?
19:00.14a931bwfor ex, how do i make bigger outline?
19:00.21a931bwi can only choose from premade one's
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19:01.32reo_or maybe try the config files.
19:01.37reo_which i dont kno
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19:06.52a931bwaww
19:06.59a931bwi don't seem to find Windows icons :(
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19:07.52a931bwThe only i found is: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Windows+2000+Icon+Theme?content=133
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19:10.30reo_a931bw, see this.http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=137250
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19:12.24a931bwThanks!
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19:16.19silver_hookHullo.
19:16.57silver_hookIf I upgrade a KDE package (e.g. plasma), do I have to upgrade all the KDE packages even if it is just a minor release?
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19:45.17modernbobI have a question that might seem silly but never the less I will ask it. On the panel how do you add an application that isn't in the menu
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19:48.43silver_hookmodernbob: Do you see the "Cashew" in the corner of the panel?
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19:48.58modernbobsilver_hook: yes
19:50.01silver_hookOK, one way is to click the Cashew in panel → Add Plasmoids/Wigets → find the plasmoid → click & drag it to where you want it in panel.
19:50.51modernbobsilver_hook: dont have a plasmoid widget
19:51.20silver_hookmodernbob: I don't have KDE in English right now, so I don't know how that button is called.
19:52.17reo_modernbob, on menu > your application. right click on it, There is Add to panel.
19:53.00modernbobyes.. but how do I add a program that isn't in the menus..  I do understand how to do that
19:53.04silver_hookSee the button with the plus symbol: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/18/plasma-desktopuB7135.jpg
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19:54.03modernbobI do not have a plasmoid widget
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19:55.03silver_hookmodernbob: Every thingie that you add to the panel or the desktop is a plasma widget, also called plasmoid.
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19:55.41modernbobsilver_hook: ok, but that doesn't answer my question..
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19:56.10silver_hookmodernbob: You want to install a new plasmoid to your system, so you can add it later on to the panel?
19:56.39modernbobok... but I have no option that says plasmoid.. there are many widgets
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19:57.43silver_hookmodernbob: Can you explain what you're trying to achieve a bit better?
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19:58.37modernbobI have eclipse in /home/blah/eclipse I want to add that program to the panel custom so to speak
19:59.21modernbobso how do you create a application launcher
19:59.29modernbobala gnome
19:59.46silver_hookmodernbob: I think it's called Quick Launch here.
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20:01.10modernbobsilver_hook: when I add that widget it throws up a konquerer, dolhin and some other filemanager program
20:01.25silver_hookThen right-click it and edit it.
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20:02.22silver_hookmodernbob: right click on Quick Launch → click on the plus icon → select which program you want.
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20:03.15silver_hookmodernbob: to remove the programs from the Quick Launch that you do not want, just right-click their icons and select remove
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20:05.20modernbobsilver_hook: well thats almost what I want...  but you can't pass settings to it ....  what I am looking for is something that allows me to set stuff up like I can if I right click on desktop folder , do create new, then link to application
20:05.57silver_hookmodernbob: What kind of settings?
20:06.05modernbobis there an app that you can use to edit the main menu and add apps there then I could right click and add to panel
20:06.30modernbobdo you have the desktop folder transparent thing on your desktop
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20:08.24modernbobsilver_hook: thanks.. I found the menu editor and I will just do it that way
20:08.52silver_hookmodernbob: Was just about to ask you why you don't use the menu editor XD
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20:11.33silver_hookmodernbob: Also there is (or at least used to be) a program called 'kappfinder' that would search for apps/programs which are not in the menu yet, and let you just chose them and it would automatically set all the needed parameters.
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20:43.11vladutzhey guys, quick question
20:43.26vladutzhow do i remove places from dolphin sidebar(left)?
20:43.32vladutz<PROTECTED>
20:44.42reo_hide them
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20:48.05vladutz:( any better idea? i really want them gone forever...
20:48.56reo_remove is also an option.
20:49.22vladutzerm...i cannot remove some of them which are added automaticaly
20:49.32vladutz(links to media drives and stuff)
20:49.47vladutztrouble is those links are no longer valid, since i changed the mounting points
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20:53.18eshatKmail Question: Is it possible to add displayed Tags in classic header theme in mail view ?
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21:15.49argonelso lets say i wanted to find a file made on a specific date, using Dolphin. is it possible?
21:15.58argonelfind -> search for
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21:18.41Aluminargonel: tools -> find files/folders -> Properties
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21:21.50argonelAlumin: ah, ok, the old fashioned way :)
21:22.20Aluminwouldn't the old fashioned way be find(1)?  :)
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21:22.36Aluminyou kids these days and your fancy menus with your SVG icons
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21:22.48Aluminin my day we enumerated files uphill in the snow both ways
21:23.05argonelhaha
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21:23.46argoneli was rather thinking there was some way to get Nepomuk to do something
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21:24.43Aluminoh yeah, that's way too fancy for me
21:25.01AluminI haven't even really wrapped my mind around how ALSA and PulseAudio work together yet
21:26.16einar77argonel: you can use timeline:/
21:26.23einar77if you want to use Nepomuk/Strigi
21:26.57argoneleinar77: timeline?
21:27.12einar77classifies indexed files by date
21:27.43einar77sec, making a screen
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21:28.26einar77argonel: http://i.imgur.com/BrbW7.png - this shows files made on sunday 8th may
21:31.48argonelinteresting
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23:50.08Magnussondoes anyone here make their own splash screens, plasma themes,, etc or know a place i can go to start learning how?
23:50.39benji72kde-look.org
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23:51.02benji72whoops, sorry, thought your were asking where to get them
23:51.19Magnussonbenji72>i frequent there, not so much on the "how to" portion
23:51.21Magnussonyeah hehe
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