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| 00:37.14 | cablop | can i set different wallpapers per desktop? |
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| 00:50.22 | Mooniac | Is there a way to configure in KMail so that clicking on a link opens with FF4 instead of with Konqueror? |
| 00:51.21 | padde | Mooniac: in system settings somewhere, preferred applications or what it's called. sorry, on my phone right now, no kde here |
| 00:51.55 | padde | Mooniac: got your keyboard layout problem out of the way? had to go yesterday before you answered |
| 00:54.08 | sly_ | try either Default Apps or in File Associations --> for html |
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| 00:56.20 | Mooniac | thanks. works. It now uses FF4! |
| 00:56.30 | Mooniac | yes, keyboard-layout problem solved as well. Thanks. |
| 00:56.33 | Mooniac | Somewhat new to KDE. |
| 00:57.28 | padde | Mooniac: welcome then :) |
| 00:57.32 | Mooniac | STill nee dhelp with something in KMail or Kgpg. nobody replies on #kontact. Do you know KMail? |
| 00:57.46 | padde | yeah |
| 00:57.55 | padde | also use kgpg |
| 00:57.59 | sly_ | I use Thunderbird but we could help out |
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| 00:58.02 | Mooniac | HEre's my problem: |
| 00:58.04 | Mooniac | I just upgraded, and now i have to type in the passphrase in KMail every time I send an ecnrypted email. I thought there was a menu option to store it, but I can't find it anymore. Thank.s |
| 00:58.23 | padde | what versions are you on? |
| 00:58.27 | Mooniac | I cna't use TB because I need maildir. TB only has mbox. |
| 00:58.43 | Mooniac | 1.13.7 |
| 00:58.44 | sly_ | maybe the KDE wallet? |
| 00:58.49 | Mooniac | ah! |
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| 00:58.57 | Mooniac | i never set that up |
| 00:59.22 | padde | why do you need maildir? does that even matter what the MUA uses for internal storage? |
| 00:59.51 | Mooniac | better for my email backup system. And mbox is one big file of all emails, and always breaks. |
| 01:00.07 | Mooniac | internal storage is not my only concern. |
| 01:00.11 | sly_ | I don't use it but you can find it in Sytem Settings >> Account Details >> KDE Wallet |
| 01:00.21 | Mooniac | thx |
| 01:00.37 | padde | yes, kwallet is the thing that saves you from typing your password over and over again. although i'm not sure it's used by kgpg - I think there is also another passphrase caching mechanism for gpg itself... gpg-agent, iirc |
| 01:00.55 | Mooniac | thx |
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| 01:08.13 | sly_ | clawsmail uses MH format. Is that different than Maildir? |
| 01:12.27 | padde | Mooniac: maybe you should have your own mailserver, and use maildir there, and then just use whatever client you like, with imap :) that's what i'm doing. using thunderbird, kmail, k9-mail on android and roundcube webmail in the browser |
| 01:14.15 | sly_ | yeah, I use IMAP, and don't mind Thunderbird's internals |
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| 01:17.02 | cablop | i think compiz wallpaper plugin won't work with KDE |
| 01:17.11 | cablop | how can i set a different wallpaper per desktop |
| 01:17.12 | cablop | ? |
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| 01:21.50 | Mooniac | sorry, was away. |
| 01:21.59 | Mooniac | sly_, what is MH? |
| 01:22.19 | sly_ | I don't know, clawsmail uses it |
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| 01:22.36 | Mooniac | padde, thanks, I will look at that. I never considered that. Using your own, and then with IMAP you are independent, is that the idea? |
| 01:22.47 | sly_ | It might be their own format |
| 01:22.53 | padde | Mooniac: yep |
| 01:24.40 | padde | Mooniac: works best with an always-on and reliable server ;) or you can use your current setup (pop3, i assume), then fetchmail to your local box, and let fetchmail deliver to your local mailstore, which you then access via imap. dovecot is the best imap server around, btw. |
| 01:25.45 | Mooniac | yes, POP3 |
| 01:25.52 | padde | if you regularly use more than one terminal to read mail, you need imap |
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| 01:26.18 | Mooniac | right, but I don't. One is fine. |
| 01:26.41 | Mooniac | well, POP3 should have the option "leave copy on server", or similar. |
| 01:27.28 | cablop | in the past KDE supported different wallpapers per desktop |
| 01:27.33 | cablop | why it is not possible now... |
| 01:27.35 | cablop | sigh |
| 01:27.38 | padde | yeah, but you can't even have folders and stuff |
| 01:28.20 | sly_ | there is a use different widgets per desktop options, I don't know if that's how you accomplish that |
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| 01:33.10 | cablop | sly_: going to try |
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| 01:36.05 | cablop | where to enable that? |
| 01:36.32 | sly_ | Workspace Behavior |
| 01:36.34 | cablop | nice |
| 01:36.37 | cablop | is broken now, lol |
| 01:37.19 | cablop | no panels now |
| 01:37.45 | sly_ | I'm not sure what you broke, change it back lol |
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| 01:38.03 | cablop | that window dissapeared |
| 01:38.19 | cablop | the option window dissapeared and i cannot open new windows :S |
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| 01:41.44 | cablop | i enabled the different widgets... but it is not working |
| 01:41.47 | cablop | bah |
| 01:42.19 | sly_ | that's probably not the way, if there is one |
| 01:42.40 | cablop | i enabled that and didin't t work |
| 01:42.42 | sly_ | I use the same wallpaper |
| 01:42.43 | cablop | weird |
| 01:42.45 | cablop | ah |
| 01:42.47 | cablop | maybe |
| 01:42.56 | cablop | because my desktops are being created via compiz |
| 01:43.18 | sly_ | you can rotate the wallpaper with slideshow but that's not what you're after |
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| 01:44.16 | cablop | i'll end using kwin sooner than expected |
| 01:46.32 | cablop | i like the woobly effect and the cube and the aero effect of resizing windows in the screen edges and so on |
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| 02:06.10 | cablop | it' ll be a long time to enable that kwin... |
| 02:06.20 | cablop | how can i switch desktops with a key |
| 02:06.28 | cablop | like ctrl+alt+<arrow> |
| 02:06.30 | cablop | ??? |
| 02:06.59 | sly_ | they made it the middle mouse scroll by default--this I deleted |
| 02:07.18 | cablop | keys |
| 02:07.28 | cablop | mouse is a thing that is killing my arms |
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| 02:07.54 | cablop | this is one of the things compiz is somehow important to me, i managed to enable some actions to relieve some overuse |
| 02:07.59 | cablop | of arms |
| 02:08.03 | Sho_ | cablop: System Settings -> Shortcuts and Gestures -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts -> KWin |
| 02:08.13 | cablop | thanks Sho |
| 02:08.56 | Sho_ | cablop: Also various additional keyboard shortcuts in System Settings -> Desktop Effects in the individua lconfig dialogs of the effect plugins on the All Effects tab |
| 02:10.02 | cablop | thanks |
| 02:10.11 | cablop | well, i need to tweak all those effects one by on4e |
| 02:10.18 | cablop | i'm liking KDE again |
| 02:10.35 | cablop | are there woobly windows? |
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| 02:10.52 | Sho_ | cablop: sure, we wobble with the best of 'em |
| 02:11.03 | cablop | lol |
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| 02:12.27 | cablop | well ctrl+f11 then arrows... no mouse... now i need a shortcut to move current window to next or previous desktop |
| 02:13.09 | sly_ | I like these ideas..maybe I should implement some of them |
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| 02:14.38 | cablop | the one i liked the most was the ability to move windows to other desktops with shift+ctrl+alt+left|right easier than the mouse faster to get rid of windows and check later |
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| 02:14.50 | cablop | also to sort windows in each workspace |
| 02:15.03 | Sho_ | cablop: see Window to Next Desktop and Window to Previous Desktop in the first location i mentioned above |
| 02:15.21 | cablop | oh |
| 02:15.28 | Sho_ | nothing to implement, KDE has had these shortcuts since before compiz even existed |
| 02:15.38 | sly_ | I have smooth tasks and use the task manager only for the current desktop |
| 02:15.50 | Daskreech | cablop: yes |
| 02:15.51 | sly_ | so I see icons for everything I have open |
| 02:16.33 | cablop | i use to move windows to other desktops to focus each desktop in a different context |
| 02:16.36 | Daskreech | cablop: yes you can have a new wallpaper per desktop |
| 02:17.11 | cablop | then for example i leave my ftp syncing files in desktop 2 wjile coding in desktop 3 and chats are left in desktop 1 where they barely distract me |
| 02:17.46 | Daskreech | cablop: ctrl+Fn to jump to a particular window |
| 02:17.57 | Daskreech | cablop: yes there are wobbly windows |
| 02:17.58 | Sho_ | you mean you leave your work in desktops 2 and 3 where it barely distracts you so you can chat undisturbed on desktop 1 |
| 02:18.05 | Sho_ | Daskreech: I answered many of these, fwiw |
| 02:18.36 | Daskreech | Sho_: ah you two have the same spacing and colour here |
| 02:18.45 | cablop | Sho_ hahahahaha xD |
| 02:18.46 | Daskreech | you look like one person :) |
| 02:19.44 | Daskreech | cablop: I'd also like to point out that alt+ctrl+A will pull up any window which is flashing in the task manager |
| 02:19.55 | Daskreech | since we are pimping :) |
| 02:20.16 | cablop | now i pressed some key combination and |
| 02:20.23 | cablop | mouse and things stoped to work |
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| 02:21.05 | cablop | ok, sudo service gdm stop then start xD |
| 02:21.50 | cablop | where are those ctrl + fn shortcuts? |
| 02:22.00 | Daskreech | On Ctrl and F1 |
| 02:22.10 | Daskreech | Assuming that Fn means what I hope it means |
| 02:22.14 | cablop | i mean were to disable them? xD |
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| 02:26.47 | Daskreech | cablop: alt+f2 -> global |
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| 02:31.18 | cablop | :D |
| 02:31.25 | cablop | keys setted |
| 02:33.31 | Daskreech | cablop: Enjoy |
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| 02:33.47 | cablop | that kwin seems more polished that compiz |
| 02:33.48 | cablop | wow |
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| 02:34.45 | Murrlin | evening. how do I change the language of the login screen? (Linux Mint 8, kde 4.3.5)? |
| 02:35.20 | Daskreech | cablop: You sound surprised |
| 02:35.37 | cablop | well... i am |
| 02:35.59 | cablop | i thought compiz was more advanced that kwin... it seems for me that kwin is a fork or something |
| 02:36.11 | cablop | mmm |
| 02:36.44 | Daskreech | cablop: Ha ha marketing is fantastic isn't it? |
| 02:36.56 | cablop | yup |
| 02:37.00 | cablop | pretty scary also |
| 02:37.07 | Daskreech | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.20 | Daskreech | It's also maybe 3 years old |
| 02:37.28 | cablop | are you implying it is a frankenstein? |
| 02:37.41 | Daskreech | kwin is at least 3 times that old and has been very well tested |
| 02:38.32 | Daskreech | cablop: No just that kwin is much older |
| 02:38.54 | Daskreech | and that it's been in production all that time |
| 02:39.11 | Daskreech | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:39.28 | cablop | hmm |
| 02:39.42 | cablop | but i wanted to say that by now compiz is a frankenstein |
| 02:39.49 | cablop | something made up on different pieces |
| 02:39.58 | Daskreech | somewhat |
| 02:40.06 | Daskreech | but based on how it happened I wouldn't worry too much |
| 02:41.51 | cablop | i don't find where to send a widow to next desktop |
| 02:43.39 | Daskreech | cablop: I don't know if there is a keyboard shortcut for that |
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| 02:46.07 | cablop | yes KWin has it |
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| 02:46.24 | cablop | sho told the place many many lines agio |
| 02:47.50 | Sho_ | System Settings -> Shortcuts and Gestures -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts -> KWin -> Window to Next Desktop |
| 02:48.34 | cablop | but sadly kwin is not good at managing 4 keys combinations :( |
| 02:49.16 | elcaset | does anybody know what's up with kde.org being down? |
| 02:51.26 | cablop | sadly xrenderer is more jumpythan opengl |
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| 02:54.52 | cablop | anyway |
| 02:55.09 | cablop | seems it is something related to my graphic card rather than kwin itself |
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| 03:06.36 | elcaset | I haven't been able to connect to kde.org for several hours. |
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| 03:07.18 | |Slacker| | elcaset, I could connect here normally |
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| 03:08.51 | Daskreech | cablop: oh cool :) it's not set to anything by default |
| 03:09.41 | elcaset | Slacker, must be something strange going on. I can connect to any other site I've tried to get, except kde.org. Maybe my ISP is blocking kde.org? |
| 03:11.17 | cablop | i cannot enable the invert feature |
| 03:11.23 | cablop | it worked so nice in compiz |
| 03:11.34 | cablop | but here it just says it can't and don't say why |
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| 03:21.05 | cablop | it seems i can use opengl for kwin |
| 03:21.09 | cablop | dunno where to set it |
| 03:23.14 | cablop | asww |
| 03:23.25 | cablop | nah it is using opengl and it is working slower |
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| 05:58.32 | Weaselweb | has somebody an idea why kded4 (KDE4.6.3) doesn't exist properly on logout? backtrace is http://pastebin.ca/2073555 |
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| 06:00.28 | Lanz | You guys see this? http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/microsoft-gives-the-first-official-look-of-windows-8-touch-interface.ars |
| 06:00.34 | Lanz | My mind is blown |
| 06:00.39 | Lanz | Microsoft seems to have lost all sense |
| 06:00.59 | Lanz | Please tell me KDE's shell will be operational for Windows 8's release, because I don't think I can bare to use that garbage |
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| 06:01.21 | Lanz | It seems that everyone's obsessed with stripping away interfaces and making a desktop into a cell phone, except KDE |
| 06:01.42 | Lanz | Props to the only desktop that's still relevant for serious computer users with a fucking clue |
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| 07:26.05 | Frogbarf | I think I managed to stop the memory leak, but I don't understand why it worked |
| 07:26.38 | Verge | Weaselweb: It's broken |
| 07:26.47 | Verge | It has never worked properly with the 4.6 series |
| 07:26.52 | Verge | 4.7 is much better |
| 07:26.52 | Frogbarf | I removed every single plasma applet then put them all back and that seems to have "fixed" it. |
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| 07:27.30 | Weaselweb | Verge: mh. i wonder I have a 2nd computer where kded quits fine. but I'm looking forward to 4.7 then |
| 07:27.42 | Verge | It might also be down to some plasmoid |
| 07:28.04 | Sho_ | hasn't had any problems with kded in 4.6 |
| 07:28.07 | Frogbarf | I put all the same ones back and it's no longer a problem |
| 07:28.21 | Verge | I began having all my problems with 4.6 |
| 07:28.31 | Verge | + those that weren't fixed from previous releases |
| 07:28.36 | Weaselweb | well Fstabwatch was added in 4.6 afaik |
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| 08:31.53 | JohnBat26 | Hello |
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| 08:32.35 | JohnBat26 | Where I can tune command for enter in hibernate mode ? |
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| 08:51.15 | qaov | hello, is there possibility to turn of shadow for particular window ? |
| 08:51.23 | qaov | i`am using kwin decorator |
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| 08:52.02 | mgraesslin | what is the "kwin decorator"? Does that mean you use Compiz with KDE decorations? |
| 08:53.04 | qaov | no, this is native decorator from kde |
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| 08:53.24 | mgraesslin | so you are using KWin? |
| 08:53.29 | qaov | yes |
| 08:53.33 | mgraesslin | KDE does not have a "decorator" |
| 08:53.42 | qaov | my mistake |
| 08:53.53 | mgraesslin | ok |
| 08:54.16 | cb400f | :-) |
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| 08:55.23 | mgraesslin | no to my knowledge there is no way to turn off the shadow for just one window, if there is one, it's in the oxygen settings |
| 08:55.31 | mgraesslin | maybe they have a window rule for it |
| 08:55.52 | qaov | that may be an option |
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| 09:00.47 | qaov | mgraesslin: nope, rules in oxygen theme doesn`t have an option to turn of shadow for particular window |
| 09:03.16 | qaov | even I turn of decoration, covergloobus have shadow under |
| 09:03.39 | mgraesslin | what is coverglobus? |
| 09:04.48 | qaov | it displays cover from acutally running player on desktop, I am using mpd |
| 09:05.17 | mgraesslin | so the window does not have a "normal" decoration per se? |
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| 09:05.45 | qaov | i have found solution, in advanced window settings i`ve set up window type desktop |
| 09:05.58 | qaov | yes, some part of app doesnt have decoration |
| 09:06.10 | mgraesslin | don't use desktop for it, that's a bad one |
| 09:06.19 | mgraesslin | desktop will be stacked below all other windows! |
| 09:06.56 | qaov | in this case is good :) |
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| 09:08.27 | qaov | http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/8407/screenm.png |
| 09:08.58 | qaov | covergloobus displays albumart |
| 09:09.11 | mgraesslin | such a window should not get a shadow at all, that's an application bug |
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| 09:10.06 | qaov | this app is design to use on gnome, maybe thats why it have shadow by default |
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| 09:10.48 | mgraesslin | the window uses an own shape without using XShape, which causes the kwin shadow implementation not to recognize that it should not have a shadow |
| 09:11.09 | mgraesslin | anyway the existing shadow implementation has been replaced in 4.7 and there won't be a shadow for it anymore |
| 09:11.20 | qaov | good news |
| 09:11.50 | qaov | mgraesslin: you are kde developer ? |
| 09:11.59 | mgraesslin | yes |
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| 09:14.06 | qaov | can you share about some other news about 4.7? |
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| 09:14.34 | mgraesslin | I don't know about everything, most I also get just from release notes |
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| 09:16.40 | qaov | I`am using kde from about 2 weeks, and I think it`s good desktop |
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| 09:24.45 | satdfl | hi |
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| 09:38.06 | brain0 | hello and good morning |
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| 09:38.58 | brain0 | I have an inquiry: when I connect my usb flash drive or my external usb hard drive, the plasmoid doesn't notify me and doesn't show them. I need to open it, right click and check "show hidden devices". what qualifies these devices as "hidden"? and why? |
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| 09:41.29 | cb400f | maybe you hid it yourself at some point? |
| 09:41.40 | cb400f | does it happen with all usb storage devices? |
| 09:41.48 | cb400f | what filesystem is on it? |
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| 09:43.51 | brain0 | I definitely did not hide anything |
| 09:43.59 | brain0 | file systems vary, one is vfat, one is ext3 |
| 09:44.17 | brain0 | I think I had it with one NTFS once |
| 09:44.26 | brain0 | and it doesn't happen with all of them, I think |
| 09:44.44 | brain0 | from your answers, I conclude that you have no clue and are guessing around |
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| 09:48.56 | brain0 | not saying that I don't appreciate it, but I can guess myself, I was hoping someone actually knew what this crap was about |
| 09:49.02 | brain0 | because it definitely makes no sense to me |
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| 10:52.04 | satdfl | somebody dont like kde 4 ? |
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| 10:58.45 | satdfl | Look: http://www.snowlinux.de/. |
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| 11:28.29 | mah454 | Hello ... |
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| 11:28.54 | mah454 | I need keyboard shurtcut for minimize or maximize windows .. |
| 11:29.32 | mah454 | How i can minimize or maximize kde windows by keyboard ? |
| 11:29.35 | cablop | mah454 long way is multiple shotcuts |
| 11:29.57 | mah454 | cablop long way ? |
| 11:30.59 | cablop | mah454: first press alt + space bar, it will bring up the window menu, then press the highlited key for minimizing, usualy n, for maximize or resize it is usually x |
| 11:31.20 | cablop | i got used to that method because this is the one that works well in gnome, kde and mswindows |
| 11:32.18 | cablop | ell... it is not working in my KDE ¬¬ |
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| 11:33.05 | mah454 | cablop . Alt + space not work ! . in gnome desktop I use Alt + F10 |
| 11:33.30 | cablop | let me find how to enable it, weird they don't have that menu |
| 11:33.36 | cablop | it's almost universal :( |
| 11:33.39 | cablop | and i need it! |
| 11:34.44 | cablop | give me a second i'll find it, but first i need to close a zillion tabs |
| 11:35.38 | mah454 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:39.23 | cablop | i expect, also to use alt+f4 to close a window and ctrl+f4 to close tabs, but maybe kde guys are creating different shortcuts |
| 11:40.49 | robbiethe1st | cabltop: Go into System settings |
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| 11:41.23 | robbiethe1st | cablop: shortcuts and gestures > standard key shortcuts |
| 11:41.28 | robbiethe1st | set things as you want |
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| 11:42.10 | cablop | howe to make the window menu appear? |
| 11:42.45 | cablop | it is not there |
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| 11:43.07 | cablop | mah454: anyway is in any of the options in the path robbiethe1st told us |
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| 11:43.34 | robbiethe1st | I dunno about any window menu |
| 11:43.42 | robbiethe1st | But close certainly is there |
| 11:44.05 | robbiethe1st | and it works: I bound it to a custom function key on my keyboard, and have been using it for a few days now |
| 11:44.27 | cablop | right click on the window title |
| 11:44.32 | cablop | that menu |
| 11:44.54 | cablop | it has minimize and maximize, i want to open it with alt+space as it is in any other window system |
| 11:45.10 | robbiethe1st | No clue; I don't use Kwin with my KDE install |
| 11:45.19 | robbiethe1st | I run Metacity as it's faster |
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| 11:45.20 | cablop | what then? |
| 11:45.34 | cablop | ok, then do that in metacity or just press alt+spacebar |
| 11:46.00 | robbiethe1st | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:46.11 | cablop | press alt+spacebar |
| 11:46.17 | robbiethe1st | Nothing |
| 11:46.23 | cablop | lol |
| 11:46.28 | cablop | something is on the way then |
| 11:46.32 | robbiethe1st | Right clicking on the wiondow in the taskbar, however... |
| 11:46.43 | robbiethe1st | then I get my menu where I can select desktops etc. |
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| 11:48.36 | cablop | i found it |
| 11:48.45 | rindolf | robbiethe1st: heh, I originally thought your nick meant "Robbie Theist" |
| 11:48.47 | cablop | mah454: still there? |
| 11:49.10 | robbiethe1st | heh, I get that a lot. |
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| 11:49.48 | cablop | anyway the option is Global Keyboard Shortcuts > Kwin > window Operations Menu KDE defaulted it to alt+3 i'll switch to the standard alt+space |
| 11:50.07 | cablop | working nice now |
| 11:50.18 | cablop | now |
| 11:50.51 | cablop | i want to run a flash screensaver on kde, how to accomplish it? all guides talk about using xscreensaver, instead of kscreensaver, any suggestion? |
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| 11:58.02 | lineinthesand | I try to customize my systray icons using inkscape. I've succeded with a few icons but I'm having trouble e.g. with the network manager icon. Is there a guide to how the architecture of this icon file must be or, more generally speaking, a guide to creating desktop themes for kde4? |
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| 12:06.45 | savr | hi |
| 12:06.47 | savr | http://allthingsd.com/20110601/microsofts-windows-8-demo-from-d9-video/?refcat=d9 |
| 12:06.59 | savr | what is kde going to copy? |
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| 12:08.40 | markit | just upgraded from 4.5 to 4.6.3.. now copying files is a nightmare, the dialog box that tells you that the destination file already exists is really difficoult to interpret |
| 12:09.06 | markit | is it a bug known bug? I've the feeling it exists since 4.6.1 |
| 12:09.20 | annma | markit: what's the difference, |
| 12:09.32 | annma | from 4.5 to 4.6 |
| 12:10.11 | markit | annma: usually I have filed that I modify and then have to transfer (to update the targhet) but need to know which one is more recent |
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| 12:10.25 | markit | because I could have an updated file on the other end instead |
| 12:10.32 | markit | with 4.5 was simple |
| 12:10.49 | annma | what was simple, how did it change |
| 12:10.49 | markit | the title of the dialog imediatly told me "an OLDER item is present..:" |
| 12:10.58 | markit | or "a NEWER item is present..." |
| 12:11.09 | markit | now |
| 12:11.19 | markit | I have a dialog that does not tell me so |
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| 12:11.36 | markit | I have a sort of "mini preview" of the page, of course useless for documents |
| 12:11.50 | markit | and I have to enlarge the dialog to see the modification date/time |
| 12:12.03 | markit | this for each file (imagin for 10 files...) |
| 12:12.11 | markit | and also the information of the date is not clear |
| 12:12.25 | markit | there is not "newer / older" info that is imediatly clear |
| 12:12.41 | markit | you have "Tuesday" on one end and "Friday" on the other |
| 12:12.47 | markit | or something like that |
| 12:13.17 | markit | that is particulary bad for me just because I'm italian and I'm using KDE in english, so probably with the correct language selection is a bit better |
| 12:13.25 | markit | but you have to use your brain a lot more |
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| 12:13.46 | markit | I've debian sid 64 here, and kubuntu 11.04 on the laptop, same behaviour |
| 12:13.59 | markit | so seems an "upstream" problem, can you confirm the issue? |
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| 12:15.46 | mah454 | cablop I am here |
| 12:16.08 | mah454 | cablop Find answer ? |
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| 12:16.53 | vandenoever | i wonder if i can turn on the fade-in fade-out that happens when switching tabs in konsole |
| 12:17.03 | vandenoever | i'd like the switching to be instant |
| 12:17.25 | pinotree | vandenoever: is that just in konsole or in any other tabbed widget? |
| 12:17.46 | pinotree | s,other,, |
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| 12:17.55 | vandenoever | pinotree: konversation is also not instant, but not sure if it has fading |
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| 12:18.54 | vandenoever | pinotree: great hint! oxygen animates tab transitions |
| 12:19.00 | pinotree | yeah |
| 12:19.29 | vandenoever | wow, my machine is so fast now! |
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| 12:19.56 | vandenoever | silly me was suspecting the graphics driver |
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| 12:21.29 | cablop | mah454: yes, go to System Settings > Shortcuts and Gestures > Global Keyboard Shortcuts > Kwin > Window Operations Menu the default is alt+f3, i suggest you to change it to alt+spacebar, because alt+spacebar will work in gnome and ms windows too for the same thing, but if you don't mind alt+f3 will do the trick |
| 12:23.34 | cablop | can i run flash as screensaver in kubuntu? i don't find a way to do that |
| 12:23.36 | cablop | i'll end replacing kscreensaver with xscreensaver otherwise |
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| 12:29.20 | markit | annma: ping |
| 12:29.56 | annma | markit: you did nto say what really changed in the way it is handled from 4.5 to 4.6 |
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| 12:30.35 | markit | annma: do you have 4.6.x? try to copy files with dolphin and imediatly will understand the issue |
| 12:30.37 | annma | markit: to be efficient you would need a 4.5 dialog and a 4.6 one and point what you dislike in 4.6 |
| 12:30.48 | annma | I copy files often |
| 12:30.53 | annma | I don't have any issue |
| 12:30.58 | markit | :) as usual |
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| 12:41.23 | markit | annma: http://imagebin.org/156462 |
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| 12:42.28 | markit | annma: http://imagebin.org/156464 (I have to enlarge the dialog to see the dates) |
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| 12:43.54 | markit | to be fair, I've noticed that if you have an older file overwriting the newer there is a line telling you so (never noticed before) |
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| 12:44.33 | markit | if the files are the same, you have the same image as the ones I posted (that are related to a newer file overwriting an older one) |
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| 12:44.36 | gurkkk | hi |
| 12:44.40 | gurkkk | somebody hating kde 4 |
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| 12:44.55 | markit | gurkkk: me, I prefer KDE > 4 ;P |
| 12:45.02 | annma | use soemthing else and be happy gurkkk |
| 12:45.06 | markit | (from 4.1 up to 4.6x) |
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| 12:50.58 | lineinthesand | I turned off my kwin box switch effect, and now I cannot get it back. Only a vertical list of windows with their icons appears when pressing alt+tab, no horizontally aligned thumbnails. Can anyone give me a hint what could be wrong? |
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| 12:52.59 | markit | annma: ping |
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| 12:54.52 | annma | pong |
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| 12:59.25 | lineinthesand | Ah, just found theres a dropbox that has to be set on the first tab of the Configure desktop effects dialog |
| 13:00.00 | gurkkk | somebody here interested |
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| 13:01.18 | markit | annma: have you had a look at the pictures? is the issue clear now? |
| 13:02.01 | annma | is it because the source name is editable? |
| 13:02.16 | annma | markit: can you issue a bug report please? |
| 13:02.52 | annma | attach the screenshot and explain what is wrong |
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| 13:03.34 | markit | annma: omho, the main info the user should have is about older/newer/same, so even if the name is editable, people should not be force to think and/ore resize dialog to have this fundamental info |
| 13:04.03 | annma | OK so please explain this in the report |
| 13:04.19 | annma | most dialogs could do with a redesign to be honest |
| 13:04.36 | annma | proposing a mockup would be a plus |
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| 13:28.41 | markit | annma: ok, thanks |
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| 15:04.25 | Linkmaster | I'm having difficulty with the plasma-desktop. If I have to restart it, I use the 'kquitapp plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop' command. when I start it up again using 'plasma-desktop', the bar goes across the middle of my screen. I'll take a screenshot to show it, but is there any way to move it back to left? Rebooting does the trick, but I hate having to reboot my system whenever this happens |
| 15:05.03 | Linkmaster | Heres a screenshot of it: http://imgur.com/SX0af |
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| 15:07.12 | cb400f | why do you have to restart it in the first place? |
| 15:07.28 | cb400f | that seems to be the real problem |
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| 15:09.45 | Linkmaster | For a completely different reason, I get this annoying message when I use amarok, it'll give this continuous message from the notifier about running a process, then it complains that its unable to 'create an io-slave' and something about sql..I'll try to recreate it real fast so that I can tell you the exact message. Just as often, it'll do the same thing, but instead of the 'io-slave' issue, it'll simply say "File:" and thats |
| 15:09.45 | Linkmaster | it |
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| 15:09.52 | Linkmaster | cb400f: ^ |
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| 15:13.21 | Linkmaster | cb400f: Here we go, I went through the IRC history on #amarok, and found this. Hope it helps: <Linkmaster> The strangest thing has been happening with amarok and plasma for me, and this is what it is: I have amarok playing, and suddenly my notifer will start to spin like something is being done, then the notification "Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'amarok-sqltrackuid'." and it will do this forever, |
| 15:13.21 | Linkmaster | and it ruins my ability to do much on my system. The only way to halt it is running 'killall amarok' and then it'll stop |
| 15:14.12 | BajK | does KDE 3 already have some 3D/Compositing funcitonality? or just those XRender basic shadows and stuff? |
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| 15:40.31 | einar77 | BajK: almost nothing |
| 15:40.37 | einar77 | you needed xcompmgr IIRC |
| 15:41.30 | BajK | ok |
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| 15:48.59 | binaryhat | kpackagekit is randomly loading in system tray every 2-5 minutes. any ideas? |
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| 15:52.47 | vishesh | Can I make task-manager show only icon(not titles)? If not now which plasmoid would you recommend? |
| 15:53.27 | icewind | vishesh: smooth-tasks can do that |
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| 15:54.03 | vishesh | icewind: Ok thanks. |
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| 15:58.18 | binaryhat | ? |
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| 16:10.11 | Linkmaster | Found an answer to my problem with the taskbar ending up in the middle. I unlocked the widgets, and drug the taskbar over. didn't think it'd be that easy..gotta love KDE, the devels know what they are doing :P |
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| 16:35.53 | david-stone | How do I see what network I am currently connected to? |
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| 16:36.19 | annma | useyour network connecting tool |
| 16:36.28 | david-stone | When I open the network manager and look under wireless, it doesn't show any currently connected networks |
| 16:36.30 | annma | depends on what your distribution ships |
| 16:37.16 | annma | I see Connections on the right when I click on the systray icon |
| 16:39.07 | david-stone | I'm using KDE Plasma on Fedora... |
| 16:39.15 | david-stone | Let me see if I can figure out what the network manager is |
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| 16:53.04 | KWhat_Work | knotify4 along with kded4 seem to be eating up 300% cpu, is there a way to see what knotify is spewing out ? |
| 16:55.49 | annma | KWhat_Work: new installation? upgrade? |
| 16:58.27 | KWhat_Work | annma: happens randomly |
| 16:59.47 | annma | kde version? |
| 16:59.53 | KWhat_Work | 4.6. |
| 17:00.04 | KWhat_Work | 3 |
| 17:00.10 | annma | hmmm weird |
| 17:00.20 | annma | what applets do you have? |
| 17:00.31 | KWhat_Work | just a sysmon |
| 17:00.36 | KWhat_Work | cpu and mem |
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| 17:00.59 | annma | CPU was causing CPU eating from a bug report I saw recently |
| 17:01.25 | annma | there was a blog about kded4 but I don't remember who wrote it |
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| 17:05.18 | KWhat_Work | i think this is a little beyond the cpu eating that the desktop widgets do, somethign is infinite looping, ill just restart plasma |
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| 17:06.33 | icewind | I had trouble with the cpu monitor a while back |
| 17:06.48 | icewind | eating all up all cpu cycles |
| 17:07.19 | KWhat_Work | ahh pkill kded4 fixed the issue |
| 17:07.39 | KWhat_Work | nope never mind |
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| 19:11.39 | stoned | Hello. I have been away for years and have not used KDE since 3.5.5 I think |
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| 19:12.03 | stoned | Currently which distrubution best features/provides a KDE ? |
| 19:12.14 | ThxGiving | kubuntu? |
| 19:12.59 | Verge | Arch |
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| 19:13.30 | ThxGiving | is there some kde developer here to answer the question? |
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| 19:13.59 | thiago_home | what question? |
| 19:14.14 | stoned | hey, thiago_home long time no see |
| 19:14.38 | stoned | still around eh |
| 19:14.43 | thiago_home | yes |
| 19:14.58 | stoned | and sho too I'm guessing (konversation) |
| 19:15.16 | stoned | I wonder how konversation looks now |
| 19:15.18 | ThxGiving | @thiago: what distribution is the best for using kde |
| 19:15.21 | stoned | man I can't wait |
| 19:15.23 | stoned | haha |
| 19:15.31 | stoned | last time I was doing KDE was 2004-2005 |
| 19:15.31 | thiago_home | ThxGiving: that's not a question that can be answered. |
| 19:15.37 | ThxGiving | lol ok |
| 19:15.43 | ThxGiving | i guessed kubuntu |
| 19:15.54 | stoned | Let me ask again and rephrase |
| 19:16.00 | ThxGiving | i dont like amaroks new ui |
| 19:16.08 | ThxGiving | it looks too much chaotic |
| 19:16.13 | stoned | Which distribution doesn't much around with KDE too much and/or modify it too much? |
| 19:16.21 | thiago_home | Slackware |
| 19:16.26 | stoned | Like which one is closest to just good plain old kde |
| 19:16.29 | stoned | latest version' |
| 19:16.31 | stoned | stable |
| 19:16.32 | sterna | none of them modify kde much |
| 19:16.41 | stoned | well i know ubuntu jacks it ups |
| 19:16.49 | stoned | its crashy and unstable most of the time |
| 19:16.58 | stoned | debian is too much trouble to install and setup |
| 19:17.07 | stoned | i just wanna download, burn and go with the flow |
| 19:17.09 | stoned | you know |
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| 19:18.26 | ThxGiving | what about gentoo? |
| 19:18.40 | stoned | http://www.kde.org/download/distributions.php |
| 19:18.48 | ThxGiving | btw.. whats slackwares package manager? |
| 19:18.52 | stoned | it's alright |
| 19:19.00 | stoned | I'm really stoned. I can go one by one and check em out |
| 19:19.04 | stoned | I got time. |
| 19:19.22 | stoned | #2 is mint |
| 19:19.34 | stoned | hunh. interesting |
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| 19:22.22 | jensp | hey there, I'm trying to launch konsole with a specific geometry, according to konsole --help-kde "konsole --geometry 1136x731+0+0" should be fine, but it launches with the previous size instead. |
| 19:22.30 | jensp | Any ideas what I could be doing wrong? |
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| 19:24.16 | kollapse | Hi. Anyone know of a good font editor for KDE ? |
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| 19:42.10 | friese | hi, im using debian wheezy here and it has kde 4.4.5 in the repos, any repo/tipps to install kde 4.6? |
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| 19:42.30 | pinotree | friese: ask in #debian-kde in irc.oftc.net |
| 19:42.39 | friese | ok, thx |
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| 19:54.51 | daedaluz | what's the best OS X dock-like widget or so? also, how can I set Dolphin to have "preview" enabled by default in all folders? |
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| 20:08.46 | silver_hook | Hullo. |
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| 20:10.48 | silver_hook | All of a sudden KWin always starts new windows in the upper-left edge even though I double-checked that it's set to "smart". |
| 20:11.38 | silver_hook | All I've done was change the QtCurve theme (also for KWin), Plasma theme, colour scheme, fonts and icons. |
| 20:11.55 | thiago_home | then change them back |
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| 20:14.04 | silver_hook | thiago_home: How could any of these affect where KWin spawns new windows? O_o |
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| 20:15.01 | BajK | does KDE support back/forward buttons on the mouse in dolphin, rekonq, konqueror etc? |
| 20:16.14 | silver_hook | BajK: Yup. |
| 20:16.39 | BajK | since I read in 4.6 feature list that the "Support for forward/back buttons on mice" is red i.e. not done |
| 20:16.53 | BajK | TODO Dolphin Support Fwd/Back Mouse Buttons |
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| 20:17.40 | silver_hook | Hmmm, to be honest, I remapped them for other use ...but at least for Rekonq, I know the forward/back buttons work. |
| 20:18.25 | silver_hook | I have the fw/bk buttons on the keyboard and my mouse is missing a middle button, so ...yeah. |
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| 20:30.54 | silver_hook | thiago_home: Do you think QtCurve could have broken it? |
| 20:31.22 | thiago_home | that's a possibility |
| 20:31.30 | thiago_home | if you changed something, that's usually the first suspect |
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| 20:33.27 | silver_hook | Odd. |
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| 20:42.44 | silver_hook | thiago_home: It seems that just changing the KWin deco from QtCurve to something else solved it. |
| 20:42.51 | silver_hook | thiago_home: Thanks. Odd, but thanks :] |
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| 20:49.01 | BajK | why does shitty Quassel always crash when I click ANY link? |
| 20:49.01 | BajK | it just freezes, even drkonqui doesnt show up |
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| 20:50.49 | pinotree | BajK: ask in #quassel, it is not something we develop |
| 20:51.43 | DeltaEpsilon | can some one shows e how to make Firefox looks native in KDE? |
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| 20:52.24 | DeltaEpsilon | I can't get the window title background the same as kde :( |
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| 22:34.19 | cablop | weird the applet of CPU usage keeps telling me weird things |
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| 22:34.43 | cablop | it says i have two cores each one at 1.6 GHz but the next second it tells me they're running at 800 MHz |
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| 22:34.53 | cablop | any idea of what is the problem? |
| 22:36.01 | cablop | the othet thing is how can i set firefox as the default browser instead of Konqueror? |
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| 22:58.53 | flareguner | Hi all |
| 22:59.11 | flareguner | I have problem with flash player in konqueror on my Gentoo ~amd64 |
| 22:59.32 | flareguner | Konqueror does not load flash plugin :( |
| 22:59.44 | flareguner | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.17 | flareguner | I had tiried to create symlink to /opt/Adobe/flash-player/flashplayer.so, but it doesn't help me |
| 23:00.31 | flareguner | In google chromium flash working. |
| 23:00.39 | flareguner | Any ideas ? |
| 23:01.01 | flareguner | Sorry for my english and thanks in advance for help! |
| 23:02.06 | flareguner | I think this is not gentoo related problem, right? |
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| 23:30.49 | |Slacker| | hello |
| 23:31.12 | |Slacker| | I'm having quite an annoying issue with kde, if it's kde problem |
| 23:31.51 | |Slacker| | my netbook speakers simply won't go off when I plug a headphone or speakers in |
| 23:32.28 | |Slacker| | I looked for some config in system status but couldn't find one... |
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