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01:03.34sabocat_So, like a doofus I deleted my ~/.kde4.2/ directory, which had all my mail in it. The messages are still on gmail, but KMail only downloads messages up to 10/2010. How do I get it to download the rest?
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01:04.40clarjon1can't wait to play with kde 4.7 :)
01:06.01clarjon1anyways, how do I remove old devices from the phonon configuration without editing the rc file directly?
01:06.19clarjon1the ones i want to remove are greyed out, and none of the active ones will let me choose the 'remove' button :/
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01:52.47kurratai install new service with dolphin but it doest show up in service selection page under dolphin config, what is going on?
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03:09.44cjaeis there a kde multimedia keys package 4.5 and up?
03:09.59cjaesome of my keys work but others do not
03:10.17cjaefor a keyboard that is
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04:03.29sabocat_So, like a doofus I deleted my ~/.kde4.2/ directory, which had all my mail in it. The messages are still on gmail, but KMail only downloads messages up to 10/2010. How do I get it to download the rest?
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04:10.58clarjon1sabocat_: imap or pop?
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06:28.37mfraz74what has happened to the search function in konqueror in KDE 4.6?
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06:32.06DaskreechCtrl+F ?
06:32.51mfraz74doesn't work
06:33.02mfraz74can't find a menu entry for it either
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07:14.53anubisHi i have a little problem with kde now: usually if i put an usb-stick into a slot some notification came up with some proposals what i could do (open with dolphin, gwenview,...) this doesnt happen anymore since i upgraded to 4.6.3. Can anyone help me ?
07:15.40pinotreeanubis: do you have udisks installed?
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07:16.47anubispinotree: no , do i have to?
07:16.50pinotreeYES
07:17.49anubispinotree: ok, i will install it and restart. if somethings still wrong then i will come again
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07:18.11pinotreei wonder why you didn't continue on #debian-kde
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08:05.07*** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.6.3 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4
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08:06.38kurratawhen i run dolphin as normal user, i dont see my newly instaled services, when i run it as root i see them, what is going on?
08:09.43cb400fservicemenus? .. where/how did you install them?
08:10.21kurratacb400f: at first i tried with dolphins installer, then with my package manager
08:10.54cb400fdolphin has a service menu installer?
08:11.14kurratacb400f: download new services, it installs to
08:11.45kurratai am on archlinux so it most likely the newest kde version
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09:05.39mfraz74How am I supposed to launch KFind now?
09:05.48mfraz74In KDE 4.6
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09:06.43annmaalt+F2 type findor kfind
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09:07.05mfraz74annma: What about from within Konqueror?
09:07.33annmakfind within konqueror?
09:07.55annmanot sure what you want to do
09:08.01annmakonqueror file manager?
09:08.03mfraz74annma: yes, in KDE 4.5 I could launch KFind from Konqueror by either typing Ctrl-F or going to Tools
09:08.16mfraz74annma: yes Konqueror file manager
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09:09.17annmaI'mlooking but my system is slow
09:10.16annmaI still have this menu item mfraz74
09:10.27mfraz74annma: In KDE 4.6.3?
09:10.31annmayes
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09:10.41mfraz74What distro>
09:10.42mfraz74?
09:10.52annmawell in pre 4.7 but that's the same in 4.6
09:10.58annmait did not disappear
09:11.10annmavanilla KDE built from KDE sources
09:11.27mfraz74In Kubuntu 11.04 it is missing
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09:30.02phrearchhello
09:30.36phrearchis there any performance difference between the nouveau driver and nvidia proprietary when running kde with compositing?
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09:38.26annmaphrearch: ask in #kwin preferably
09:39.00annmamfraz74: then it's a customization from Kubuntu but I am surprised
09:39.44phrearchannma: ok thanks
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10:33.24soulthreadsHello. Is there a way to make plamsa notifier not to store notifications as they disappear from the screen?
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10:34.19sanazhi , i have a question , i installed Arch on my MacBook Pro , but now i can not connect to internet , what should i do ? in my network setting there is no network connections
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10:48.13cb400fsanaz: most likely not a kde issue, but a driver issue
10:49.12cb400for alternatively an issue with arch shipping NetworkManager 0.9 which isn't quite compatible with the kde nm plasmoid yet
10:49.24cb400fanyway.. you should talk to arch
10:49.42sanazbut there is no network connection in : system setting > network settings
10:50.09annmasoulthreads: where are notifications stored?
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10:57.30annmasoulthreads: ping?
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11:13.39thewatchmanHow do I install flash?
11:14.50pontoHi, I connect to a different machine with ssh -X and try to start konsole. But I then get the error:      unnamed app(5042): KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server:  "Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-m2IkEkOjfx: Connection refused"
11:15.08pontoWhy is there a problem with dbus here?
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11:15.09cb400fthewatchman: ask your distribution
11:15.22cb400ffor the easiest way
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11:49.47beevvyhelo, is it known bug in KDE SC 4.6.3 that 'knotify4' process takes ~50% cpu and ~1.5 GB RAM?
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11:54.51annmabeevvy: is it new from 4.6.2?
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12:10.47annmabeevvy: or what was last KDE version you had?
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12:23.04mahdi_jahi all
12:23.26mahdi_jaany one can help me for created ad hoc(computer to computer) wireless network in kde
12:23.55annmaexplain
12:24.09annmacrossover? or hot point?
12:25.40mahdi_jaannma, i want connect other laptop to my laptop for internet share over wireless network between of then
12:26.17mahdi_jaannma, i do this easily in gnome but in kde i can not do it
12:26.45annmawhat tool do you use in Gnome?
12:27.05mahdi_jaannma, gnome network
12:27.19annmacabn't you use it in KDE?
12:27.26mahdi_jaannma, no
12:27.30annmawhy not?
12:27.31cb400fwhy not?
12:27.38cb400fpsychological barrier?
12:28.03mahdi_jabecause in switch to kde and i do not install gnome in my system
12:28.11annmareally?
12:28.20cb400fgnome nm applet doesn't require a full gnome
12:28.23annmaI do use other apps than KDE ones
12:28.27mahdi_jaannma, yes after gnome 3 i switch to kde
12:28.43annmamahdi_ja: try installing this gnome tool and use it if it worked
12:29.02mahdi_jaannma, kde can not do this
12:29.12annmaI don't know much KDE network tool as I used my distro specific one
12:29.26annmaif gnome can, kde also can
12:29.35annmagnome and kde are only frontend for networking
12:29.46annmayou can probably do it also in terminal
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12:29.53mahdi_jaannma, yes it is correct
12:29.57mahdi_jaannma, thank you
12:30.21annmaand cb400f tells you taht you can install gnome nm applet
12:31.17cb400fNM leaves a lot of stuff to the applets.. and since the NM backend and the gnomer applet is developed by the same peeps, with constant api changes etc. kde applet will always be playing catch-up to the crap
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12:32.06PiotrNHello, any news on release date of 4.6.4 and kde pim ?
12:32.08annmaI like it in Mandriva where the distro tools manage this
12:32.13PiotrNthough it would be yesterday...
12:32.21cb400falso e.g. openSUSE removed that stuff for security reasons.. suse security team considers it "an iptables hack"
12:32.36annmaPiotrN: soon, we needed to clean some problems
12:33.35beevvyannma: it happened for the first time now (I mean knotify4 using much cpu and ram)
12:33.36PiotrNannma: sure, but should I expect days or weeks before it's released ? have some plans for it ;)
12:33.50beevvyannma: and I suppose it'll disappear when I restart KDE
12:34.08beevvybut maybe I can check something useful now
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12:35.32annmaPiotrN: days or hours
12:35.35annmanot weeks!
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12:35.39annmatarballs are done
12:36.06annmabeevvy: so it's not 4.6.3, it's something you changed
12:36.10PiotrNannma: great news, thanks
12:37.22beevvyannma: well I didn't mean to say it's a regression in 4.6.3 since I use that version for some time
12:37.48annmadid you add any applet for example?
12:37.50beevvyand well, will just restart KDE and ignore the issue if it won't repeat
12:38.01annmayou should try to look deeper in it
12:38.14beevvydefinitely no changes besides update of phonon since at least 3 days
12:38.19annmaabout apps or applets you started/added
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12:38.33annmais your system running for days?
12:39.01annmaor do you shut down every day?
12:39.11beevvyshut down every day
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12:39.24annmahmmm so no real reason
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12:42.24annmaPiotrN: release should be later today
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12:46.35beevvyannma: so I rebooted and now it's all right
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12:46.53beevvyI remember that I started amarok for the first time since at least a month
12:47.07beevvybut it happened after closing amarok
12:47.14beevvynothing more that I can think of
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12:47.45PiotrNannma: thanks, I'm not that impatient, just really happy kdepim gets released
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15:19.29m_tadeuis there a way to configure kde so that it only drags a window on the title bar?
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15:19.46cb400fyes
15:19.58thiagorun oxygen-settings
15:20.02thiagochange the config there
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17:05.57mvahi there!
17:06.16mvaanybody knows, if stupid bug with dark themes fixed in last Calligra?
17:07.19mvai've koffice 2.3.3 now, and i've troubles with editing documents in KSord, KSpread, <...>.
17:07.29mvaand, btw, with printing from kwrite
17:07.58mvaand i'm using black background and white foreground in theme settings
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17:46.23omid_ohow can i use yahoo messenger's voice ? i mean Voice calls with my friends ( whom use windows)
17:46.37omid_oi'm looking for a software with which i could have voice / video calls with my windows friends( dont mention skype cause it dosnt work in iran)
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18:08.24Proshothow do i create a custem dolphin service
18:08.28Proshotmenu
18:08.36Proshotlike enque in whatever app i want
18:09.18cb400fhttp://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Konqueror_Service_Menus
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18:09.34cb400fof course the app needs to have a commandline option for the action you want
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18:59.53KTLhas the user any say in the font(-size) when kate or kwrite print something ??
19:00.19KTL(to paper i mean)
19:00.50KTLbecause modifying the font-properties has no influence at all on what i get on paper
19:02.00KTLoh wait
19:02.05KTLi discover the -printing style
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19:04.33KTLthat worked :)
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20:56.57lamahin which dir in .kde are a power managment profiles
20:57.04lamah?
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20:57.34thiago_homelamah: share/config
20:58.17ahelwhen kdepim 4.6 would be released?
20:58.48lamahthiago_home: thanks, powerdevil* ?
20:58.53thiago_homeyes
20:59.17lamahhmm thank you
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21:01.10lamahre
21:01.34lamahhow can i reset power managment settings ?
21:01.39lamahto default
21:02.12thiago_homeerase the config files
21:02.20lamahthiago_home: which files
21:02.44thiago_homethe ones that contain the settings you want to reset
21:03.43lamahthiago_home: yes but still nothing i have a  big probs with a Power, how can i restore it becouse i cannot create a profile, no one profile there everything is selected, i cannot edit, i need default profiles
21:04.11lamahthiago_home: i have tried everything and always i got this, nothing the same corrupted settings..
21:04.22thiago_homeyou need to erase those files while powerdevil isn't running
21:04.27thiago_homeso it's a good idea to do it outside of KDE
21:04.40lamahyes i tried that
21:04.45lamahfrom command line
21:04.50lamahrm powerdevil*;startx
21:04.54lamahand still the same..
21:05.08thiago_homethen you already have the defaults
21:05.30lamahno i have the same settings
21:05.55lamahit turns off after 1 mins. and etc. .. bad news..
21:06.02lamahthe old bad settings
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21:06.49thiago_homethe same settings are probably the default settings
21:06.49notsladahel: I keep hoping that kdepim gets out of the gate too :^)  I'm not much of a coder myself, but if I had extra money I would definately be willing to pay for developers to work on kde-pim.  As the internet becomes more social managing people-related information as effortlessly as possible will be more and more important to newcomers
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21:12.07smogehi
21:12.25smogeis there some work being done to use JACK as the default audio backed for phonon?
21:12.37smogeinstead of alsa or pulseaudio?
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21:15.13daedaluzwhat would be advantage of that?
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21:16.58thiago_homesmoge: there's one layer missing
21:17.11thiago_homephonon needs something to play the audio, like VLC or MPlayer
21:17.22smogemplayer can use jack
21:17.25smogevlc also
21:17.39smogethe advantage is for people who work professionally with audio
21:18.01smogeso they don't need to switch to pulseaudio to listen to certains applications that do not support JACK
21:18.32smogepulseaudio is not so good as CoreAudio (mac), coreaudio is good for pro and desktop
21:18.38smogeon linux we have this split...
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21:19.57smogehi?
21:20.13thiago_homeI heard you
21:20.17thiago_homebut there's nothing I can do
21:20.23thiago_hometry talking to apachelogger
21:20.51pinotreethere's no alsa nor pulseaudio phonon backend
21:21.13thiago_homeright
21:21.22pinotreephonon talks to multimedia systems like xine, gstreamer or vlc (on unix), which use alsa, pulseaudio, oss, jack, etc as output
21:21.23thiago_homebut phonon does have a device listing and tells the backend what to use
21:24.42smogeso it's possible
21:24.49smogevlc has jack backend
21:25.05smogebut it is not exposed in system settings
21:25.19pinotreenot even if you enable the advanced devices?
21:27.04pinotreehas a "jack" output with the xine backend
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21:41.11ScuniziIs there a way to add "in bulk" contacts to a newly created "group"?
21:41.35Scuniziin kmail that is..
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21:47.23ahelnotslad: sure, but i was just saying i've just read somewhere ages ago that today it was meant to be released kdepim4.6 but maybe i'm wrong ::)
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22:26.02RichiHi changed my X config from 4000*2000 (dual screen) to a single monitor setup. no matter what program i start, it's not being displayed. but when i alt-tab, i see the outlines of the programs in question
22:26.35RichiHdid anyone see that before?
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22:27.05RichiHfwiw, KDE is totally unusable, atm
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22:46.42smogepinotree: no
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22:48.41smogeI'm trying to remove all pulseaudio packages and see if this changes
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23:44.36smogeHi
23:44.40smogeafter removing pulseaudio and restarting kde, I could choose jack as a backend
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23:45.00smogebut when I started amarok, for instance, I received a message that it is not possible to use 'jack'
23:45.07smogeis it really possible?
23:50.20smoge"The audio playback device jack does not work."
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23:52.02jonezgreetings. I cannot find any documentation regarding how to specify an "alternate url" for a sieve server. I am using dbmail for imap which has cram-md5, but the sieve server only supports "plain", and I'm trying to get it to work.
23:52.15jonezI checked the handbook and I googled but no luck :(
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23:58.44alkafoosmoge: you don't really need pulse or jack unless you're big into audio development
23:59.04smogeI am.. I need jack.
23:59.21smogeI use my firewire soundcard, and lots of jack client applications
23:59.54smogewould be perfect if KDE could easily talk with jack

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