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00:48.26changedsoulIm having an issue with kmix. seems as soon as I play something that requires sound, my kmix shoots to 100% cpu and stays there even after the audio or video has stopped. Is this a known bug?
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03:52.01crocketCan I set a background image for konsole?
03:54.58crocketKonsole!!!!!!!!
04:02.44|Slacker|i guess you can
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04:15.01crocketI can't!!!
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04:43.55sabocatHello.
04:44.30sabocatKDE kicks me out of my session every time I close certain applications (Gwenview, Okular, Dolphin). Any run into this?
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07:36.27diegoviolaLinux kernel 3.0 released
07:36.30diegoviolahttps://plus.google.com/102150693225130002912/posts/CJpyYdCqBL8
07:36.33diegoviolahi
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08:04.10GillesMhello strange problem on Kde here... on several PC after kde4 run for many years I got when I clidk on theicon of an application I got the message the file ..application.desjtop doe'net have line Type = ... and the KDe clock is late to two hours ...
08:04.13GillesMidea ?
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08:06.22valorieI have no clue on the first, but what are your clock settings?
08:06.43valorieif it was losing time, I would say you had a failing/weak cmos battery
08:07.05valoriebut since it's two hours off, it sounds like a setting or locale problem
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08:12.36GillesMno valorie linux date is correct
08:12.40GillesMit is only a kde problem
08:13.35GillesMOn all my PC I use RSSNow Applet and I have collegue who don't have any problem.. I have th e problem on all of my pc
08:13.37valorieso it's correct in systemsettings, and in the clock settings?
08:13.44GillesMyes
08:13.57GillesMI suspected the screensaver but no
08:14.04valoriescreensaver/
08:14.20valoriewhat does that have to do with the clock?
08:14.21GillesMI don't know
08:14.45GillesMbut I have problems with plasma-desktop
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08:15.42GillesMI reboot
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09:39.40nyuszika7hHi, is it possible to add an icon in the Application Launcher?
09:40.31diegoviolaMicrosoft says "Happy Birthday" for Linux 3.0 release: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA2kqAIOoZM
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11:11.17yunoshhi, is it possible, either directly or through a workaround, to point the desktop wallpaper setting to a saved search in digikam?
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12:10.01Guest6135friends, the dialogs on this channel are also searchable in the site http://kde.searchonirc.com
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12:39.18hussamhi, I need to upload a screenshot to ask about a kde problem. imageshack stopped working (probably my connection).
12:39.25hussamany other image hosting services?
12:39.38pinotreeimagebin.ca?
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12:41.24hussamthanks pinotree. same thing. I guess I'll wait till my connection gets better. anyway my question was. under kde 4.7rc2, there seems to be a new design for the calendar when I click on the digital clock in my taskbar.
12:41.49hussamthe fonts for Mon, Tue, Wed (the days) is too big and they get cropped
12:41.56hussamanyway to change those fonts?
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12:43.44hussamok, imgur.com works. http://i.imgur.com/WFLiH.png  how do I change those fonts in KDE 4.7rc2 (just the font size)
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12:49.16szalsame as in previous versions, I guess
12:52.17hussamszal, was that for me?
12:53.25szalhussam: don't see anyone else talking here :P
12:54.27hussamok thanks, it just looked different to me that before. any idea how I can decrease the font size?
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12:54.46hussamI went to system settings -> application appearance.
12:54.59hussamand in fonts panel, I set everything to 8
12:55.06hussamit didn't affect that
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12:56.00Guillem_A pure Qt application, gets besides Oxygen style the KDE-file dialogs. Is there any way to disable the KDE-file dialogs in favor of the plain Qt ones?
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13:00.34kde_pepohussam, Plasma doesn't follow KDE font, style and color settings
13:03.50hussamal right. another question. everytime I log in, a launcher for firefox appears in my panel next to the kde menu.
13:04.18hussamI can right click and remove launcher but it reappears next time.
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13:13.52hussamhow can permanently remove a launcher?
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13:14.52tumaixhussam: it shuld be permanent if you removed. the thing that *can* be happening is a conflict in the permissions on plasma settings.
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13:26.52hussamok, I got rid of it. I removed ~/.local/share/applications/ folder and restarted plasma-desktop
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13:33.46Guillem_Why a Qt application behaves differenly when run from KDE or run from GNOME?
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14:58.10runahi i want to send a pdf with the comments with okular. when i save the pdf  with the comments somewhere it delets the commens.
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15:16.15rdieterGuillem_: kde provides a "platform plugin" for Qt
15:21.34rdieterGuillem_: you might be able to avoid it loading by undef'ing QT_PLUGIN_PATH prior to running your app (or making sure QT_PLUGIN_PATH doesn't include `kde4-config --path qtplugins`)
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16:13.08Guillem_rdieter: for a reason I cannot understand, the KDE-stuff gets into even if I defined QT_PLUGIN_PATH with ""
16:13.28rdieterrats
16:13.54Guillem_rdieter: nevertheless, I've created an interface to the QFileDialog::get... static functions, so I can disable the native dialogs on the fly if I need to
16:14.19Guillem_rdieter: I've had to change all the calls at my code, but they were not so much after all...
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16:19.32Guillem_rdieter: OK! I found it, it is the KDE_FULL_SESSION, KDE_MULTIHEAD, KDE_SESSION_UID. KDE_SESSION_VERSION which need to be unset as well
16:19.44Guillem_rdieter: unsetting them all I recover the gome-like behaviour
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16:20.45Guillem_rdieter: (using oxygen style, also seems to load somewhat the kde platform plugin, or at least a part of it)
16:21.15Guillem_rdieter: thanks for your help!!!! It's been very intructive!
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16:56.46tushar_mehtaAnybody knows which will be the appropriate irc channel for discussing software engineering related topic? specifically in that I want to discuss regarding mapping software requirement to component mapping techniques
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17:52.37Administradorhey what distro uses the developers??
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18:00.28marcozhi all.  in konsole, how do I set the scrollback buffer size for just one instance?  settings->configure profile affects any other konsoles opened afterwards right?
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18:05.41nadleyhi all
18:06.07fenugreekhi
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18:07.00nadleydo you know if it is possible to show the cover from a mkv files in dolphin ?
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18:10.59fenugreekthe  cover
18:11.07fenugreekdoes MKV have a thumbnail metadata option?
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18:13.12nadleyyes they have. it is possible to link some files including the cover in a mkv file
18:13.23fenugreekoh, cute
18:13.44cb400fI have thumbnails for mkv with dolphin/mplayerthumbs
18:13.59fenugreekcb400f: those are probably video frame grabs, though
18:14.25cb400fprolly
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18:16.06fenugreekthat might be the way to go though
18:16.16fenugreekjust most it to use the metadata instead
18:16.26fenugreekjust mod it*
18:16.39fenugreekthe question is what _does_ read mkv metadata
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18:17.29nadleyyes actually with mplayerthumbs it is just some frame
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18:18.33JeroenDeDauwI'm looking for an overview of the keyboard shortcuts you can use in yakuake to modify the interface (ie move to the next terminal).
18:18.34JeroenDeDauwNot finding anything on Google; anyone know of such docs?
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18:21.43Sho_JeroenDeDauw: How about the "Configure Shortcuts" dialog?
18:21.55JeroenDeDauwSho_: how di I get there?
18:22.00JeroenDeDauw*do
18:22.23Sho_JeroenDeDauw: Open the menu (middle of the three buttons in the lower-right, if you're using the default theme)
18:22.36Sho_(but you probably do since without the menu you haven't found the config dialog yet either ;)
18:23.29JeroenDeDauwSho_: Oh thanks! I didn't realize that button opened a menu :)
18:23.35Sho_there's also a #yakuake btw
18:23.47Sho_JeroenDeDauw: yeah, I should really change the icon to a wrench
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19:40.32axanonmight as well ask here too, does anyone know the debian package name for color themes (system settings -> appearance -> colors)?
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19:43.10fenugreekaxanon: kcolorchooser? kdeaccessibility colorschemes ? kdeartwork colorschemes?
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19:44.30VergeWho the heck came up with an idea to bind Xorg back/forward events in Kopete chat window to cycling history
19:44.55VergeEspecially since cycling history is broken
19:45.18fenugreekit was bob
19:45.29axanonfenugreek: go to system settings -> appearance -> colors, those themes
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19:45.51fenugreekaxanon: the ones you already mentioned?
19:46.25axanonin other distros I have a list of a bunch of different themes.. a base kde install on debian has 1
19:46.47axanonI want to know what the package name is to get the supplemental ones
19:47.35VergeOpen your package manager and see
19:47.52axanonVerge: really??!? you dont think i've tried that already...
19:48.00VergeApparently not
19:48.34axanoni have.. it's these silly convoluted package names.. and synaptic is not being helpful
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20:13.21JrSysAdminIn Konsole can I use the output from a command as part of the title for my tabs?
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20:24.36fenugreekJrSysAdmin: certainly
20:25.28JrSysAdminHow?
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20:32.27axanonI've run into a little snag here: I ssh -Y into my headless box and run a kde application. It starts fine, but now the machine I'm ssh'ing in from is using settings from the remote machine (Things like DPI/fonts, etc) when I open new programs. What can I do to stop my main computer from inhereting the remote settings?
20:35.17JrSysAdminI wonder if when you ssh to a remote machine if it uses those setting if you could ssh to localhost and it would use the ones from there?
20:36.13axanonI'm not sure I follow.. ssh into the remote machine then ssh to localhost?
20:36.44JrSysAdminWell if SSHing to a remote machine makes it use those setting maybe SSHing to localhost would use those settings
20:36.57JrSysAdminI am not sure if it works or not but it makes sense
20:38.49axanonI have run a similar setup to this before, but have never had this problem.. my local machine's settings have always stayed intact.. for some reason though, the settings seem to be transferring over from the remote. I'm thinking this might be a bug.. or if it's a feature I need to set something
20:39.13axanonI just don't know what I would set :P
20:40.40JrSysAdminIt's only done it once?
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20:44.35axanonJrSysAdmin: a few times now. For example, on the remote machine one of the settings if fonts are 96 dpi, locally i am set to 120dpi. Next time I open firefox locally it is set to 96dpi
20:44.44axanons/if/is
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22:48.50MaximLevitskyone thing about plasma, really like its multiscreen support
22:49.06MaximLevitskymuch better that gnome and especially Unity
22:50.54fenugreekhow so?
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22:51.44MaximLevitskyIn Gnome, if you create  panels on 2nd screen and disconnect it, they move to main screen
22:51.55MaximLevitskyThats just a showstopper for me
22:52.04fenugreekthis was with the same gpu?
22:52.23MaximLevitskySure, twinview or xrandr
22:52.30fenugreekcool
22:52.38MaximLevitsky(depending on whenever I use nouveau or blob)
22:52.54Sho_there's actually tons of improvements to multi-onitoring coming in 4.7 and later 4.7.x releases, too
22:53.09Sho_plasma got various multi-head fixes, and alex fiestas has been on a bugfixing spree for xrandr support
22:53.17MaximLevitskymy only gripe now (not kde fault) is that dreadfull SDL
22:53.27fenugreekSho_: metric or avoirdupois?
22:53.34MaximLevitskybut that 'can't be fixed'
22:54.01Sho_fenugreek: whatever those barrels were in doom you could shotr and they'd explode
22:54.03Sho_:)
22:54.48fenugreeknow that's a system of measurement
22:55.41Sho_sucks though that nvidia still doesn't support xrandr 1.2+
22:55.57MaximLevitskySho_: you can say that again
22:56.09MaximLevitskynouveau is doing strong lately
22:56.35MaximLevitskyif not occasional crashes and elevated power usage, it is quite good
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22:56.42fenugreekyeah, impressive development
22:56.49MaximLevitskyabout same performance as open radeon drivers
22:58.49Sho_that said, kwin on nvidia is a real joy with the new compositing backend in 4.7. stuff like the zoom in/out animation for desktop grid has twice the framerate here now, it is generally much better behaved under load, and combined with some fixes recent nvidia driver versions, i've never seen window resize this fast in a compositing manager on nvidia - i can resize dolphin swiftly and the window actually keeps up with the cursor all the way
22:59.12MaximLevitskySho_: thats great
22:59.25MaximLevitskyI probably will be able to dump compiz then
22:59.40MaximLevitskyI use it because kwin too slow with nouveau
22:59.46Sho_yeah, it's basically a new compositor now with the opengl 2.0 rewrite
23:00.19MaximLevitskyAlthough I really like compiz and wish it worked better with KDE
23:00.35MaximLevitskyits fault of both sides, more like compiz one
23:01.13Sho_one of the compiz lead devs was a frequent visitor in #kwin last year, the relationship seemed to be productive
23:01.28MaximLevitskySho_: nice
23:01.30Sho_haven't seen him around lately though
23:03.13MaximLevitskybtw, is kubuntu still best KDE distro?
23:03.37MaximLevitskyI dumped ubuntu half year ago for that dreadful unity
23:03.45BenderPLhahaha, kubuntu was always THE WORST KDE distro :)
23:03.57MaximLevitskypoint taken! :-)
23:04.16MaximLevitskyand what is the best KDE distro?
23:04.22BenderPLi'd recommend PcLinux OS or openSUSE, never kubuntu :)
23:04.53fenugreeklike yourself some RPMs, do you?
23:05.06MaximLevitskyI used openSUSE, but due to its deals with Microsoft I gave it up
23:05.12fenugreekKubuntu's okay
23:05.17MaximLevitskyNovel deals that is
23:05.49BenderPLi am not using openSUSE either
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23:06.02BenderPLbut it's KDE is better than Fedora's for example
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23:06.27BenderPLi often read people had problems with kubuntu not encountered in other distros
23:06.43BenderPLas a matter of fact kubuntu is understaffed and it just shows
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23:09.33Linkmasterhas never once had an issue with Kubuntu
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23:30.27fenugreekI've had lots of issues with Kubuntu =)
23:30.33roentgenBenderPL: archlinux has one official KDE maintainer
23:30.41fenugreekbut not so much ones that any particular distro would escape
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23:31.05BenderPLarchlinux is a vanilla distro so if there is a bug in archlinux then it also is in upstream KDE :)
23:31.23roentgenbut he builds KDE not ubuntu+KDE+shit around
23:31.24BenderPLso in fact archlinux has more maintainers ;)
23:32.09roentgenmost distros have many maintainers :) I was talking about KDE
23:32.47BenderPLoh yeah
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23:33.12BenderPLbut kubuntu was always a step child of ubuntu, sort of a not loved offspring :)
23:33.27roentgenBenderPL: vanilla distro... the main and the cool point ;)
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