IRC log for #kde on 20110831

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00:14.54kendrickstupid question. where does the Notes plasma keep its files?
00:15.13kendricki backed up my old laptop, and have my homedir sitting here on my new laptop, and i'd like to get at my notes. :)
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00:16.09_kdepepokendrick, http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=49957
00:17.19kendrickoh wow
00:17.23kendrickthat's... kinda scary :)
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00:20.35Sho_i think there's a version that stores the in akonadi ... kjots plasmoid or so
00:20.43kendrickmmm
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00:22.06_kdepepoAkonadi probably is even more scary :)
00:22.20kendrick.txt or .html would seem... sensible
00:22.26kendrickthis is not PalmOS from 1998 :
00:22.27kendrick:)
00:22.45Sho_well right now it basically is .txt
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00:24.42kendrickwell, it's HTML with, somehow, "\n" in there, too :D
00:25.17kendrickunrelated question. i just did a search-n-relace in Kate to convert those "\n" sequences into actual EOL characters. now every line in Kate has green "this matched your search!" highlight.
00:25.40kendrickis there a way to... dismiss that?
00:25.53kendrickother than Ctrl+F then some nonsense that it won't find?
00:25.57Sho_closing the bar iirc
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00:26.35kendricknope
00:26.55kendrick(at least not in 3.6.2
00:27.26kendrickplease tell me kate's not 6 years old. :)  ("About Kate" shows "(c) 2000-2005")
00:27.53_kdepepokendrick, Esc
00:29.21kendrickoh! haha
00:29.28kendricksee, i was looking all over the UI
00:29.30kendrick(e.g., View menu)
00:29.43_kdepepotook me some time to find that, too.
00:29.45kendricka menu item for the differently-thinking folks might be handy
00:29.54kendricki probably knew that (or asked here! :) ) once upon a time, too
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00:41.26destihow can i force a specific font dpi, in the kde settings i can only choose between 96dpi and 120dpi, but my display has 101
00:42.05_kdepepoIf you don't force any, KDE will use what your X server reports.
00:43.22kendrickwanders
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02:30.46stingohola
02:32.09stingose pueden hacer preguntas de KDE por aca?
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02:32.18stingocan I ask questions about KDE here?
02:38.56DasKreecHYes
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02:52.19stingosome weeks ago I started having some issues with my taskbar
02:52.27stingoit freeze some times
02:52.42stingo4.6.5 (4.6.5)
02:52.53stingoLinux 2.6.40.3-0.fc15.i686 i686
02:53.03stingoDo you know if it is a common issue?
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06:39.27csslayerwhere is the socks proxy settings in KDE 4.7?
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07:44.21dalaenHi, in Kalender I got an event crossing two months, and in Month View it's only visible in one of the months (the other month shows blank), anyone to confirm the bug ?
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08:17.08simion314hi, is it possible to assign two keyboard shortcuts to the same action in KDE(kwin effects) ? it seams that from UI is noty possible
08:21.50YuErKDE effects does not work after i updated Xorg and Mesa :-(
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09:11.03dalaenMy form buttons on Firefox/KDE are damn ugly, is there any fixes ? :s
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09:18.26nizeguyQ: Gwenview is not previewing svg thumbnails, am i missing some dependency ?
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10:59.24CuBeW0rKhi all! Is there a way to start plasma-desktop with raster graphicssystem by default? I'm using kde4.6.5 in debian testing
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14:11.28Igneousin kde 4.x (I'm running 4.7), is there a way to keep focus on a tab group after a tab closes?
14:12.15IgneousA real use case: I have urxvts that get auto-grouped every time I open one.. and when I exit a terminal, the entire tab group window loses focus and I have to manually focus it again.
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14:14.43lcdtmhey
14:15.25lcdtmis it possible not to have all dolphin windows close down, when I close one?
14:16.04lcdtmsome options I can't find which starts dolphin as a seperate entity.
14:16.14lcdtmor somehow else
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14:38.29RaymondXhi ! how can i enable samba streaming in dolphin? thunar appears to do it
14:39.12lcdtmsamba streaming?
14:39.32RaymondXlike playing videos over the home network
14:39.58lcdtmsmb://ipaddr/
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14:40.33RaymondXdolphin has to store videos and audio in kdecache before playing it
14:40.58RaymondXthunar and nautilus plays is right away
14:42.04lcdtmI have no idea then. sry
14:42.31lcdtmbut isn't it your video players job to cache input.
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14:43.42RaymondXit doesnt matter which player i use, vlc, dragon player amarok, i have to wait for the system for several minutes to store it in kde cache
14:44.30RaymondXbut when  i installed thunar, no cache saving necessary, the players play it right away
14:48.22RaymondXso i have a kde environment that must use thunar.....this makes everything wierd
14:52.20IrquiMRaymondX, google is your friend? quick search gave me this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=253547 - comment #3
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14:52.24IrquiM(have the same issue)
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14:55.16RaymondXso it's a bug that hasn't been fixed for several months now
14:55.25IrquiMit's not a KDE bug
14:55.32IrquiMas far as I can see
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14:57.27RaymondXwhich file do i perform the " X-KDE-Protocols=http,ftp,smb" change?
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14:57.54IrquiMthe .desktop file
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15:01.03RaymondXmine says "X-KDE-Protocols=ftp,http,https,mms,rtmp,rtsp,sftp,smb" sso i don't see any problem
15:01.33IrquiMwhich application?
15:01.44RaymondXvlc
15:01.55IrquiMshould work then
15:02.00IrquiMstrange
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15:03.37RaymondXand it work flawless via thunar
15:03.54IrquiMwhat does the log say?
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15:07.14RaymondXi dont know where its stored
15:08.52thiagoRaymondX: please ask #vlc. We don't know why VLC can't open that URL.
15:09.32RaymondXit does stream via thunar
15:09.44thiagothunar is irrelevant
15:09.45RaymondXonly dolphin doesnt
15:09.48thiagoVLC can't open -> VLC's problem
15:10.06thiagoopen it from the command-line with that URL. See if gives you the same problem.
15:10.16RaymondXand so does amarok and dragon player
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15:11.00RaymondXeverything works on thunar, dolphin generates errors or stores it in kdecache before playing it
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15:11.37thiagoRaymondX: please answer the question: can VLC play directly from SMB?
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15:14.09RaymondXyes it does, when i click on a video that appears on a thunar file manager
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15:14.24thiagoRaymondX: stop talking about thunar please.
15:14.35thiagoRaymondX: I want to know about VLC in isolation. Please start it from the command-line.
15:14.40thiagoRaymondX: can it play directly from SMB?
15:15.13RaymondXwhy not? it can display files in another computer so it has to use smb
15:15.34RaymondXim playing via local home network
15:15.40thiagohow can it display? In the KDE file dialog?
15:16.50RaymondX<PROTECTED>
15:17.05thiagosounds like VLC can't play it on its own
15:17.12thiagoyou need to ask in #vlc for more help
15:17.34thiagothunar doesn't count because it's probably not giving VLC the SMB URL, but instead is mounting via fuse and giving a file path.
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15:18.19RaymondXso how can i make dolphin work like that?
15:18.27thiagoyou can't
15:18.47thiagounless you want to invest a couple of months to develop the feature for KDE
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15:20.04youagreehello all
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15:20.37youagreecan anyone tell me why all my GTK app icons are gone? i updated a lot of things but i just have no idea where to look for the root of the problem
15:20.50youagreeGTK apps' internal icons show only a placeholder now
15:21.14youagreeand my .xsession-errors is littered full of things like this:
15:21.15youagreeGdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_n_channels: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed
15:21.38thiagoyouagree: no, sorry, I doubt we can help you.
15:21.47youagreeand errors from a lot of other gdk_pixbuf_* functions too
15:21.54pinotreeyouagree: ask in #gnome
15:22.04youagreeah okay so they know where this comes from
15:22.15youagreethey might know it better
15:22.22RaymondXkde sucks...gnome rules
15:22.24youagreeok
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15:31.15youagreei smell death over there
15:31.19youagreeno one answers
15:31.43youagreealso, gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders gives me segmentation fault
15:32.01pinotreenot anything we can help you about
15:32.18youagreeis gdk-pixbuf stuff a gnome thing?
15:32.27pinotreenot a kde stuff
15:32.32youagreealright
15:32.42youagreeits just kde what i use otherwise...
15:33.10pinotreeclassic excuse, won't change things
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15:50.27slipp3dI'm trying to set up my laptop to have ctrl+alt+ (arrow keys) to move work spaces where would I go to do that?   {mint kde 4.6}
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15:55.54cb400fsystemsettings -> shortcuts and gestures -> global shortucts -> select "kwin" in the combo box
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16:12.28DanTAtWorkHow do you delete an activity from the KDE Desktop? The 'ACtivity manager' shows 7 instances of "New Activity".  All of them have what looks to be a 'stop button', but clicking it does nothing, and I can't figure out how to delete any of them.
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16:13.44James147DanTAtWork: generally you stop them then delete them (a small x should appear when they are stopped)
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16:14.28DanTAtWorkJames147: Yep, that's what I'd read.  Not here, though.  Nothing happens @stop, and no 'small X' appears.
16:15.20filippohi i successfully built kde-workspace with kdesrc-build on a virtualized system, but i get an black screen after ksplash
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16:15.41DanTAtWorkquick KDE restart .... brb
16:15.59James147filippo: sounds like plasma-desktop not loading
16:16.50filippoJames147: i got some sort of artifacts on the top screen and kde cursor..but i didn't dig too much on the problem, maybe it's due to virtualbox
16:17.19filippothanks anyway
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16:17.52James147filippo: is krunner running? (alt+f2)
16:18.06filippono
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16:19.01James147filippo: check ~/.xsession-errors
16:19.36filippoyep!
16:22.27slipp3dcb400f, thank you ... that is perfect
16:22.45dyrvereoh that's convenient, uninstall software through the Main Menu with left-click :)
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16:25.18taequxHello guys.
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16:26.09filippoJames147: having built the kde-workspace is enough for a base system? right?
16:26.18taequxI'm using KDE on Debian. I installed kdebluetooth and kde-i18n-pl packages, but kdebluetooth isn't localized still. Is there any way to do it in my language or write localization on my own?
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16:26.55filippoJames147: i mean with kdelibs, kdepimlibs, phonon,akonadi and base tools
16:26.57cb400fif it's not translated, you can pretty easily translate it yourself and generate a .mo
16:27.11taequxcb400f: How can I do it?
16:27.20cb400fbut kbluetooth is dead... doesn't debian have bluedevil?
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16:27.43taequxcb400f: Bluedevil, thats right.
16:28.16cb400fhm.. so you're looking for translations for bluedevil or kbluetooth?
16:28.17DanTAtWorkJames147: KDE restart makes no difference :-/  Still no apparent way to delete these "New Activity" instances.  Can they be deleted manually from command line, perhaps?
16:28.53taequxcb400f: Yes. Or the tutorial how to write this translation. It is prepared for non-technical girl, so you know :)
16:29.12cb400fbut which one are you looking for?
16:29.20taequxPolish.
16:29.24cb400fbluedevil or kbluetooth?
16:29.28taequxbluedevil
16:29.32cb400fhttp://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/trunk-kde4/team/pl/extragear-base/
16:29.38cb400fit's almost fully translated
16:29.48cb400fyour version of bluedevil is prolly a bit older than that though
16:29.52taequxAnd of course - kde-network-manager.
16:29.57taequxYes.
16:30.02taequxIt is on stable debian version.
16:30.49cb400fbut basically you download the po file and run 'msgfmt -vc <po file> -o /usr/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/bluedevil.mo'
16:31.42cb400fbut of course the po is much too new
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16:32.59taequxWhere can I find *.mo files?
16:33.19cb400fyou don't find them, you generate them from the .po with msgfmt
16:35.04taequxAnd how can I write .po file?:)
16:35.32cb400fyou can download it from the link I just pasted
16:35.44cb400fthe pl kde translators already translated it almost completely
16:36.27cb400fbut maybe you want to get a .po from the bluedevil tarball which matches your bluedevil version
16:42.13taequxda in the path means default?
16:43.32cb400fcrap.. it means "danish"
16:43.40cb400fyou should replace that with pl :-)
16:43.47taequxI replaced.
16:43.48taequx:)
16:44.15taequxcb400f: But there is one small thing. I doesn't work :)
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16:44.33taequxI do not have to reboot. Relog is enough, isn't it?
16:45.02cb400fmsgfmt succeeded, but bluedevil is till 100% untranslated?
16:45.26taequxmsgfmt told me something like that.
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16:46.21cb400frelogin should suffice... maybe debian uses a different location or sumfink
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16:47.22taequx190 communicates are translated, 6 are questionable  and 2 communicates aren't translated.
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16:47.37taequxIt isn't translated at all.
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16:48.33cb400fwould seem that the .mo is on the wrong location or has the wrong name then
16:48.33taequxcb400f: What do you think about it?
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16:56.08taequxcb400f: So what should I do?
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17:06.59taequxcb400f: Is it possible that translation doesn't work because of the version of BluedEvil?
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17:21.39bsilvereaglehttp://www.imagebam.com/image/f47723147483767
17:22.00bsilvereaglewhich settings do I need to change so the text in Okular's side bar is visible?
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18:10.56NoXzemaI've just created an Arch Linux partition with KDM and several DMs, including KDE plasma.
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18:11.19NoXzemaWhen I try to log into the Plasma desktop, it finishes it's little icon animation then does nothing.
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18:21.30ompaulNoXzema: you'd be better off in an distro based channel I guess.
18:21.48NoXzemaompaul, they directed me here lol
18:21.59NoXzemaWhatever, I'll just figure it out myself...
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18:24.35ompaulNoXzema: I know nothing of arch, I don't really want to learn, I don't know if this does anything for ya, but this is debian sid saying what packages it has with plasma in there, it might be useful or totally useless so fwiw http://paste.debian.net/128002/
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18:53.35DaskreechNoXzema: did you look at your ~/.xsession-errors ?
18:53.56NoXzemaIt's empty although the file is there. When are the errors erased?
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19:06.08LacrociviousKonqueror in file management mode -- I find Dolphin unusable for my purposes -- fails to update the tree view panel when directories are removed, and their is no way I can find to refresh the treeview panel. Anyone know whether this issue will ever be fixed, or has Dolphin made konqueror an orphan?
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21:22.35wmaderHi all, my PIM (4.7) components do not show any more my Kolab resources. I can not see any error message. Any hint?
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