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| 01:41.16 | oneforall2 | any idea why the snd/video conf has the nvidia gforce 460 hda showing but when I do the test I hear no snd. have the hdmi cord plugged into the hdmi on the tv |
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| 03:42.20 | higuita | rotflcopter: 85ºC isnt much for a laptop... but for a desktop is alot... change your cooler, enable the cool&quiet/ondemand cpu freq, add a fan to the case (if you dont have one) |
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| 07:36.00 | rhavenn | anybody aware of issues with kde menu editor in 4.7.2? it's not saving custom added "items" for me |
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| 08:04.12 | arkascha | Using digikam for photomanagement I had to move all of my collection folders. |
| 08:04.20 | arkascha | Now I wonder how I can reuse them with digikam. |
| 08:04.28 | arkascha | Simply adding them as new collections does not give back all meta information like tags and so on. |
| 08:04.37 | arkascha | How can I do that ? |
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| 08:18.49 | elcaset | arkascha: maybe digikam has it's own irc channel or forum? |
| 08:19.41 | arkascha | yeah, thanks. actually just tracking a solution there. |
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| 08:20.53 | elcaset | ah. very good. |
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| 11:02.56 | ki9a | what channel do I talk in for questions on http://gitorious.org/sticky-notes |
| 11:02.57 | ki9a | ? |
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| 11:11.20 | szal | scummos: can you please fix your wifi? thanks |
| 11:11.53 | scummos | szal: er... that's not so easy |
| 11:11.58 | scummos | but i can leave the channel. |
| 11:12.00 | scummos | bye |
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| 11:30.32 | sacarde | hi |
| 11:30.57 | sacarde | is there a script to backup/restore kmail ? |
| 11:31.14 | sacarde | backup from kmail3.5 and restore into kmail4.7 ? |
| 11:31.27 | sacarde | migrate from kmail3 to kmail4 |
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| 13:36.15 | Mustrum_Ridcule | wrong chan, goodbye |
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| 13:51.20 | JZA | hi where can I find official KDE templates |
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| 14:31.09 | JZA | hi anyone here from the KDE organization |
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| 14:54.10 | jbwiv | how does one set the preferred application for zip files? currently my zips open up with gvim |
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| 15:00.46 | sacarde | is there a way to backup from kmail3.5 and restore into kmail4.7 ? |
| 15:01.57 | annma | sacarde: import your mail |
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| 15:02.35 | annma | or compress it from kmail 3.5 and uncompress it in 4.7 |
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| 15:03.21 | sacarde | ok for messages |
| 15:03.28 | sacarde | but for accounts ? |
| 15:04.00 | annma | I guess you'l have to reset your accounts |
| 15:04.22 | sacarde | I try with: |
| 15:04.32 | sacarde | copy .kde/share/apps/kmail in .kde4/share/apps/kmail |
| 15:04.40 | sacarde | copy kde/share/config/kmailrc in .kde4/share/config/kmailrc |
| 15:04.57 | annma | you can try |
| 15:05.07 | annma | not sure it'll work though |
| 15:05.28 | sacarde | I have akonadi error |
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| 15:07.02 | sacarde | I have disactive akonadi |
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| 15:13.47 | sacarde | annma, can I disactive akonadi and run kmail without it? |
| 15:14.16 | pinotree | no, kmail 4.7 requires akonadi |
| 15:14.17 | annma | I think not |
| 15:14.31 | annma | sacarde: what's the problem? can you try without your settings? |
| 15:14.35 | Abhish | Where does NetworkManager or Plasmoid-nm put its settings? |
| 15:17.06 | sacarde | in akonadiserverrc I have: StartServer=false |
| 15:17.27 | sacarde | I have to set it: true? |
| 15:17.59 | annma | sacarde: did you import akonadiserverrc? |
| 15:18.20 | sacarde | no, I have kmail3.5 |
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| 15:19.09 | annma | what is the exact ezrror kmail 4.7 gives you? |
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| 15:24.45 | sacarde | annma, I have error in italian |
| 15:24.58 | sacarde | error is about akonadi |
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| 15:25.04 | annma | what distribution is it? |
| 15:25.19 | sacarde | I disabled akonadi in akonadiserverrc, is this possible? |
| 15:25.26 | sacarde | archlinux64 |
| 15:25.58 | annma | you won't get kmail 2 running if you disable akonadi |
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| 15:26.50 | Twilo | hello, i use debian sid with kde 4.6.5. it seems that my systray looks strange. http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6710/systray.png what is the problem? |
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| 16:42.19 | RalfJ | after installing pulseaudio (Debian testing), the volume is reset when I log off and on, or reboot... is KDE to blame, or PA? Where could I start debugging? |
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| 16:43.03 | RalfJ | restarting pulseaudio without quitting the session, correctly preserves the volume |
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| 16:59.27 | RalfJ | okay, solved that issue by quitting kmix and then removing all kmix config files from .kde |
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| 17:02.45 | BartOtten | Too all: Nepomuk just got much better! |
| 17:03.46 | heday | BartOtten: really? is it fast, at last? |
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| 17:04.12 | BartOtten | they stop indexing files that are changing constantly like your downloads |
| 17:04.19 | BartOtten | and will resume them when they are done |
| 17:04.31 | BartOtten | so it won;t index your torrentdownload 1000x per second |
| 17:04.44 | BartOtten | just wait until the changes rool out to you |
| 17:04.57 | BartOtten | and the blog written bij Trueg the maintainer appears |
| 17:05.07 | BartOtten | Donate some too, he deserves it |
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| 17:18.08 | javi | what packages should I install under archlinux to generate useful nepomuk crash reports? |
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| 18:01.28 | rotflcopter | Couldn't find node center. Skipping rendering. |
| 18:01.30 | rotflcopter | ;/ |
| 18:01.38 | rotflcopter | plsama-desktop |
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| 18:14.07 | nadley | hi all |
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| 18:20.42 | Twilo | hello, i use debian sid with kde 4.6.5. it seems that my systray looks strange. http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6710/systray.png what is the problem? |
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| 18:47.38 | leontopod | why do I need nepomukserver for? |
| 18:47.41 | leontopod | and how do I kill it? |
| 18:47.45 | leontopod | it is eating up my computer |
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| 18:52.08 | Wizard | hi o/ |
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| 19:08.40 | rotflcopter | why does my screen go blank after a few minutes if i have disabled screen-saver, and turned off display power management:? |
| 19:09.06 | Tomasu | hm, does kde 4.7 support putting windows in multiple activities? 4.6.5 seems to lack that feature |
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| 19:14.32 | Mogger | Tomasu: both 4.6 and 4.7 should have that feature |
| 19:15.10 | Tomasu | I couldn't figure out how to pin a window to more than one activity. hmm |
| 19:15.22 | Mogger | right click in titlebar -> Activities |
| 19:15.22 | Tomasu | I looked in the window menu and the advanced app settings so far |
| 19:15.40 | Tomasu | there is no activities entry |
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| 19:16.21 | Mogger | really? that sounds strange |
| 19:16.24 | Mogger | do you use KWin? |
| 19:16.58 | Tomasu | yup |
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| 19:18.14 | Mogger | can you take a screenshot please? |
| 19:20.19 | Tomasu | just a moment |
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| 19:23.21 | Tomasu | Mogger: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/13/kde-window-menu.png |
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| 19:25.04 | Mogger | Tomasu: 4.6.5 right? maybe I remember it wrong then |
| 19:25.12 | Tomasu | yup, 4.6.5 |
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| 19:25.50 | Mogger | hm. 4.6 _should_ have the activities entry.. |
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| 19:26.02 | Mogger | http://kde.org/announcements/4.6/screenshots/46-w01.png |
| 19:26.27 | Mogger | let me try something |
| 19:27.21 | Mogger | Tomasu: do you have Nepomuk enabled? |
| 19:27.30 | Tomasu | yup |
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| 19:28.43 | Mogger | huh.. I'm out of ideas then |
| 19:29.14 | Mogger | you could try and see if it's the same for another user |
| 19:30.11 | Tomasu | true. might have to try that later. |
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| 19:31.17 | Mogger | hm, a quick check - do you have a process called kactivitymanagerd running? |
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| 19:52.05 | Tomasu | Mogger: hmm |
| 19:52.16 | Tomasu | Mogger: yes |
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| 19:54.00 | awidegreen | hi, can I somehow restrict the sqlite logfile-size of the quasselcore ... its up to 800mb right now? :( |
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| 19:55.39 | BartOtten | GREAT NEWS: http://trueg.wordpress.com/2011/10/13/taking-a-break-from-crash-fixing-for-usability/ |
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| 19:57.49 | Mogger | Tomasu: ok, then I'm really ok of ideas :( |
| 19:57.57 | Tomasu | thanks for trying :) |
| 19:58.11 | Tomasu | I'm hoping debian gets 4.7 out soon |
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| 20:25.43 | curious | hello. i've just noticed oxygen-icons are over 300M big package! |
| 20:25.56 | rotflcopter | ye, cool |
| 20:26.12 | curious | i appreciate artistic efforts of everyone who contributed ... but ugh. is there any lightweight replacement? |
| 20:26.37 | rotflcopter | i dont think its a problem if you have a 1TB hdd |
| 20:26.57 | curious | 1TB SSDs are damn expensive |
| 20:27.03 | curious | but u can spare me one :) |
| 20:27.06 | rotflcopter | hehe yes |
| 20:28.01 | rotflcopter | well if you wanna you can probably use imagemagick to downgrade the images |
| 20:28.04 | curious | and well, i actually use lxde for portable devices still for some stuff , like kopete i need kde deps... which are big but bearable... untill this one kicked in lol |
| 20:28.32 | rotflcopter | hahah |
| 20:28.40 | gj1006 | XD |
| 20:28.54 | pinotree | curious: that's the source tarball, which include also the svg icons (which is what takes space), which are not installed |
| 20:29.03 | rotflcopter | well recently i have found 660MB "cache" files in /var/ from kde |
| 20:29.29 | curious | hmm, btw. can one just use older oxygen-icons package? |
| 20:29.39 | rotflcopter | from all desktop themes i have tried |
| 20:29.40 | rotflcopter | <; |
| 20:29.59 | curious | i see 4.4.5 version is 'just' 23M |
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| 20:30.48 | curious | pinotree, ahhh.. thx |
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| 20:31.29 | curious | yeah, it still downloads, i started to fear how much it'll take when it'll start to decompress ;) thx for info |
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| 20:34.58 | gj1006 | curious: You are using Ubuntu, aren't you? The 4.7.2 package on other distros is about 27MB and 36,7MB installes |
| 20:35.08 | gj1006 | *installed |
| 20:36.57 | curious | using gentoo , but thx . i'll just nuke package afterwards install , i do not upgrade this machine quite often |
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| 21:27.01 | Maccer | So there's a Desktop, and a Desktop with Icons. I don't get this distinction, and how come I can only set a background on Desktop? |
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| 21:29.27 | BartOtten | Maccer: |
| 21:29.45 | BartOtten | Maccer: The default Desktop doeses not allow icons |
| 21:29.48 | BartOtten | *does |
| 21:30.06 | BartOtten | Maccer: And there are good reason for it. They can be found on the web |
| 21:30.26 | BartOtten | Maccer: for those who want them anyway, there is the option for Desktop with Icons |
| 21:30.49 | Maccer | But the Desktop with Icons (shortcuts, icons, new folders, etc.) does, but doesn't allow background changing. |
| 21:30.51 | BartOtten | Maccer: main reason > the desktop should not be a dumplace for files |
| 21:31.00 | Maccer | Why not? :< |
| 21:31.08 | BartOtten | Maccer: KDE does have better solutions then placing icons on the desktop |
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| 21:31.23 | BartOtten | Maccer: I don't know, I don't use it |
| 21:31.26 | BartOtten | it should I guess |
| 21:31.39 | Maccer | Better solutions? Such as? |
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| 21:31.48 | BartOtten | Maccer: containers |
| 21:32.08 | BartOtten | There are plasmawidgets that can do what you want, but than it shows a container |
| 21:32.17 | BartOtten | so there won't be icons all over the place, out of grid etc |
| 21:33.06 | BartOtten | I don't know how the widgets are called, you can find them by rechtclick, add widget |
| 21:33.12 | BartOtten | *rightclick |
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| 21:33.25 | Maccer | I see. I'm going to have fun with this useless bouncy ball. |
| 21:33.38 | BartOtten | hahaha, that's so stupiod |
| 21:33.40 | Maccer | But KDE has toppled over Gnome 3 recently, at least IMO. |
| 21:33.45 | BartOtten | only a demo but it's still in |
| 21:33.53 | BartOtten | Maccer: why? |
| 21:34.43 | u19809 | hi all my migration to kmail2 failed completely ... |
| 21:34.54 | BartOtten | u19809: what happened? :O |
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| 21:35.16 | Maccer | Gnome 3's workspace & enviornment has changed. People don't like it, and neither do I. Probably because we're not used to it, or want it. |
| 21:35.20 | BartOtten | u19809: in #akonadi they know more about that I guess |
| 21:35.59 | u19809 | i just upgrade to 11.10 of kubuntu. I started kontact as normally. It requested to migrate I said yes. It failed immediately asking to run kmail-migrator manually. I did it failed saying it could not run twice. |
| 21:36.13 | BartOtten | u19809: in #akonadi they know more about that I guess |
| 21:36.20 | u19809 | Ok |
| 21:36.41 | BartOtten | u19809: or #kde-pim if it exist |
| 21:37.12 | BartOtten | u19809: Last time it failed on me was a long time ago. So don't know your problem |
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| 21:38.40 | Maccer | Oh well, having xeyes is always necessary. |
| 21:39.43 | Maccer | This damn ball is a distraction though. |
| 21:39.46 | Maccer | STOP IT. |
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| 22:03.30 | floe | can someone please tell where I can "manually save session" in kde 4.6.5 ? |
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| 22:15.06 | floe | I just realized that this option (manually save session) seems to be in kickoff but not in lancelot |
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| 22:18.00 | chetnick | http://i.imgur.com/wGHwg.jpg I'm continuously getting these errors when I open dolphin with some files. |
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| 22:18.29 | chetnick | It is keep popping out, and it is starting to be really annoying. |
| 22:19.05 | leo_rockway | floe: I don't see it in kickoff either. |
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| 22:21.12 | floe | leo_rockway: choose "leave" menu... there a menu item "save session" should appear |
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| 22:21.51 | leo_rockway | floe: not for me. |
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| 22:22.21 | leo_rockway | log out, lock, switch user, sleep, hibernate, restart, shutdown |
| 22:22.28 | DoctorPepper | hi guys !!! |
| 22:22.32 | pinotree | leo_rockway: you have to select the "manually save session" in the session management configuration in system setting |
| 22:22.35 | pinotree | s |
| 22:22.43 | leo_rockway | pinotree: that's probably it. |
| 22:23.03 | pinotree | either you have a session automatically saved on logout, or you manually save it (or do not have a session at all, of course) |
| 22:23.08 | floe | leo_rockway: also depends on kde version... maybe you also habe to choose "Restore manually save session" in system settings->system administration->session management first |
| 22:23.32 | leo_rockway | done, I see it now. |
| 22:23.36 | DoctorPepper | can anyone please tell me how to debug flip/cover switch failling to activate ? |
| 22:23.39 | leo_rockway | thank you pinotree and floe |
| 22:24.03 | leo_rockway | chetnick: did you check the debug info? |
| 22:24.06 | floe | would be cool if it could be enabled in lancelot.... anyone? |
| 22:24.44 | pinotree | floe: i remember it not being implemented in lancelot, but that was in a couple of releases ago (maybe it is still not) |
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| 22:26.07 | floe | pinotree: the developer is a debian user according to his post: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=82859. I'll try my luck in debian-kde |
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| 22:26.41 | pinotree | debian has no applied patches for lancelot, so won't make a difference |
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| 22:26.58 | chetnick | leo_rockway: http://pastebin.com/jCGFsTCs |
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| 22:27.38 | leo_rockway | floe: I don't even see it in the configuration options. |
| 22:27.41 | knue | hi all. I have a problem with scanning and reported a bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=281207 The maintainer couln't help me and said to search for help in irc. so here I am. Can anyone help me? |
| 22:28.49 | leo_rockway | chetnick: I'm not a dev, I can't help you with that, but if you opened a bug report or checked if there's a bug open regarding that, then you can add that info. |
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| 22:33.32 | pinotree | chetnick: ask in the channel of your distro how to upgrade the strigi libraries (libstreams and libstreamanalyzer) to 0.7.6 |
| 22:34.04 | chetnick | pinotree: is that necessary if nepomuk and strigi are off? |
| 22:34.45 | pinotree | the strigi libraries are used to get the metadata of files, yes |
| 22:34.48 | chetnick | pinotree: I'm also getting this every time I log in http://i.imgur.com/xXdSX.png even though nepomuk and strigi are disabled. |
| 22:35.10 | pinotree | that is unrelated to the kfilematadatareader crashes |
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| 22:35.24 | chetnick | pinotree: ahh... I though metadata is only collected if nepomuk and strigi are running. |
| 22:35.27 | chetnick | pinotree: thanks. |
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| 22:38.00 | pinotree | chetnick: the nepomuk and strigi (better call it "file indexer") services index and analyze the files in background, so all their information is available without querying the files |
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| 22:38.33 | pinotree | if you don't have those, the files you want to read their metadata are analyzed on the fly |
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| 22:40.08 | chetnick | pinotree: I see, so metadata is analyzed whether nepomuk/strigi is running or not. The only diff is that nepomuk/strigi does that in the background and index it. |
| 22:40.50 | pinotree | yes (and nepomuk does also semantic stuff etc) |
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| 23:20.11 | leo_rockway | JZA: hey. |
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