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| 00:15.55 | ponto | Hi, I installed opensuse12.1 today and it came with kmail 2. The migration to kmail 2 somehow failed. I only see some of my old mails. How to fix this? |
| 00:21.25 | jtheuer | I removed my inbox and re-created the account from my imap server |
| 00:22.01 | ponto | the problem is that i used pop so far and my mails are only in my maildir. |
| 00:22.22 | ponto | and the mail directory is a mixture of maildir directories and mbox files. |
| 00:22.57 | ponto | I use kmail from very early days. Earlier versions created mbox files later ones maildir dirs. |
| 00:28.00 | jtheuer | you have a backup? |
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| 00:28.52 | jtheuer | you can try to re-create the account using an existing maildir, I think. plus, I'd migrate the mbox files afterwards |
| 00:30.04 | ponto | I have a backup. |
| 00:30.11 | Torch | the mails are in your homedir and are safe, it's just the configuration that is hosed. |
| 00:30.30 | ponto | I wonder why the migration fails. |
| 00:30.43 | Torch | because the tool to do it is not very mature |
| 00:31.02 | Torch | not at all your fault or something about your config |
| 00:31.26 | ponto | argh. why are the opensuse guys using such a version? |
| 00:31.43 | Torch | there is no better one. |
| 00:31.48 | ponto | One problem is that even my mail servers are not migrated. |
| 00:31.59 | ponto | and I do not remember all login data |
| 00:32.23 | Torch | well... you should have all your passwords and stuff written down somewhere in a safe place anyway ;-) |
| 00:33.14 | ponto | basically I have everything somewhere. But it is real work to configure everything again. |
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| 00:33.59 | ponto | The tool does not even say why it failed. |
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| 00:42.48 | ponto | After restoring the backup and runnning kmail-migrator standalone at least my folder structure is recreated and the accounts are there. But where are my mails? |
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| 04:54.02 | grillermo | anyone here uses yakuake? |
| 04:54.56 | Sho_ | yup |
| 04:55.01 | junkDawgie | i do, but hardly an expert, grillermo |
| 04:55.15 | Sho_ | I wrote it, so I guess I could claim to be one |
| 04:55.36 | junkDawgie | ah, your lucky day, grillermo |
| 04:55.42 | grillermo | Omg nice |
| 04:55.45 | junkDawgie | i have a question for sho too then |
| 04:55.46 | grillermo | my lucky day |
| 04:56.09 | grillermo | i just want to know how to make it appear in my ctrl+tab or also the taskbar |
| 04:56.23 | grillermo | maybe it's because i'm using it in gnome, but i don't see it |
| 04:56.45 | Sho_ | it's intentionally not visible there, that's more or less the point of the app |
| 04:57.04 | grillermo | my manners... i want to thank you for making it, its awesome i just replaced tilda with it |
| 04:57.06 | Sho_ | you can force it to be available there using kde's special window rules, or any similar equivalent gnome may have (dunno) |
| 04:57.22 | dMaggot | Sho_: awesome app, really :) |
| 04:57.31 | Sho_ | thanks guys |
| 04:57.37 | grillermo | i've seen those rules on kde, i know i can open them in the title bar of the window, alas this app doesnt have a title bar |
| 04:57.54 | dMaggot | Sho_: I actually press F12 in every computer I touch, regardless of the OS |
| 04:58.04 | Sho_ | that's true, but you can press alt+f3 to open the window menu, or go through the system settings app |
| 04:58.14 | Sho_ | dMaggot: Ironically I don't have it on F12 myself :-) |
| 04:58.29 | dMaggot | Sho_: ha |
| 04:58.51 | grillermo | Sho_, ok thank you |
| 04:59.22 | Sho_ | dMaggot: I use Ctrl + the key to the left of 1 (^ / ° on this German keybard), which is where Quake had it (though without the modifier) |
| 05:00.05 | dMaggot | Sho_: yeah, I remember when I first tried yakuake I said "hey, that's not Quake's key binding" |
| 05:00.13 | dMaggot | Sho_: yet I'm waaay used to it now |
| 05:00.15 | Sho_ | (also, for the record I should state that it was actually Francois Chazal who initially created Yakuake, but since I ended up rewriting it from scratch starting with a blank file later, I can legitimately claim to have written it ;) |
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| 05:01.30 | dMaggot | Sho_: anyhow, I think it should be ported to the kernel, it's just basic for a computer to operate properly :P |
| 05:01.50 | Sho_ | :) |
| 05:01.52 | grillermo | Sho_, do you know of any issues where if you are in gnome you have to hit the hotkey two times? |
| 05:01.52 | junkDawgie | my turn... i have never figured out how to start yakuake with a profile different from the default konsole profile.... so at the start of every session i have to switch it manually... i think this is probably a quirk of konsole... Sho_? |
| 05:02.20 | Sho_ | grillermo: No, that's not been reported to me so far, sorry - can't say I have an idea why that would be the case, either |
| 05:02.47 | grillermo | Sho_, ok i'll research it thank you again |
| 05:02.47 | Sho_ | junkDawgie: Bug in Konsole, which I think actually just got fixed in 4.8 |
| 05:02.52 | dMaggot | grillermo: which Gnome? I have a friend that used Yakuake for some time on Gnome |
| 05:03.10 | dMaggot | grillermo: yet I don't think he uses it now on Gnome 3 |
| 05:03.18 | junkDawgie | that was what i was told... a year ago?... and i haven't checked the recent versions |
| 05:03.23 | junkDawgie | thanks Sho |
| 05:03.31 | grillermo | Gnome 2.32 |
| 05:03.42 | dMaggot | grillermo: uh, let me ask him |
| 05:04.11 | grillermo | thanks |
| 05:04.55 | Sho_ | junkDawgie: At least I remember a review request against |
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| 05:05.11 | Sho_ | junkDawgie: ... Konsole from Jekyll Wu that aimed to fix it |
| 05:05.31 | Sho_ | junkDawgie: i should note that i don't generaly work on Konsole (just the odd patch here and there to help Yakuake) |
| 05:05.49 | junkDawgie | :) i haven't thought about it for a long time, and it's a minor detail... but i'm glad someone took the time |
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| 05:07.15 | grillermo | Sho_, mmm its a strange problem, only happens if i switch to another app first, and the hotkey works normally as long as i don't switch to another app |
| 05:08.03 | dMaggot | grillermo: my friend tells me he never had to press the hotkey twice |
| 05:08.26 | Sho_ | grillermo: sounds like something in gnome likes to eat f12, maybe :) |
| 05:10.31 | grillermo | Sho_, it happens with any hotkey, i tried many crazy ones |
| 05:11.06 | Sho_ | ah |
| 05:11.55 | grillermo | i'll try with compiz disabled |
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| 05:17.57 | grillermo | :( same problem |
| 05:19.50 | grillermo | i'll go for a workaround using a compiz shortcut and xdotool to raise the window |
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| 05:21.25 | Sho_ | grillermo: note that rerunning yakuake opens it too |
| 05:22.06 | grillermo | yeah, tried it, also needs two hits of the hotkey combo |
| 05:23.18 | Sho_ | if you set up a shortcut to run Yakuake using Gnome's shortcut facility you need to hit it twice? |
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| 05:23.55 | grillermo | yeah |
| 05:24.08 | Sho_ | grillermo: hmm, hold on - maybe you've set your yakuake not to stay on top and not to close on focus loss? |
| 05:24.20 | Sho_ | then the first shortcut invocation closes it and the second opens it |
| 05:24.23 | grillermo | i even tried, using alt+f2 to run yakuake |
| 05:24.29 | grillermo | i got to do it twice also lol |
| 05:24.38 | Sho_ | unless you configure it so the open/close shortcut also raises the window if it doesn't have fcus |
| 05:24.53 | grillermo | oh |
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| 05:31.02 | grillermo | yup it was an issue with the raising of a focused window, i messed with it, without knowing what it was for |
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| 05:32.58 | Sho_ | grillermo: tip: if you press Shift+F1 and then click one of the config options you will often get a longer help text for them |
| 05:34.08 | grillermo | cool, i guess thats a tip for all kde4 apps right? |
| 05:34.13 | Sho_ | yep |
| 05:34.17 | Sho_ | and also kde1, 2 and 3 apps |
| 05:34.18 | Sho_ | ;) |
| 05:34.54 | grillermo | nice |
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| 08:16.04 | wunderbaum | hi |
| 08:16.16 | wunderbaum | i'm using 4.8 rc. How can i enable the appmenu? |
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| 08:42.48 | osinclair_ | if Strigi/Nepomuk constantly reindexes folders I do not touch - anyone have an idea why? |
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| 08:43.42 | Sho_ | osinclair_: maybe it just really likes the files in those folders and keeps looking in them out of an emotionally guided, irrational impulse, hoping there will be something new in it |
| 08:43.49 | Sho_ | the downside of software intelligence |
| 08:44.34 | osinclair_ | Sho: if Strigi is that smart it is scary... but am more worried over it seeming a bit crippled |
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| 08:46.33 | osinclair_ | what I mean is this: I have a folder with pdf files, mainly manuals. Another with mp3 files. These are "static" but Nepomukindexer keeps on reindexing them |
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| 08:47.22 | osinclair_ | and I finally figured out that process nepomukindexer = strigi |
| 08:48.48 | Sho_ | sort of, afaiui nepomukindexer uses strigi's stream analyzers to extract data from files, but really is in charge of driving the indexing itself |
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| 08:51.12 | osinclair_ | sho: any idea how I get it to stop? w/o switching off desktop search totally that is |
| 08:51.32 | Sho_ | sorry, no |
| 08:51.50 | osinclair_ | Sho_: now THAT is the real problem, noone seems to know |
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| 09:02.39 | marisn | anybody runs 4.7.4 with NVIDIA drivers 295.09? On my box I have no desktop background and picture frame is not rendered at all - only widget decorations coming from plasma (resize, refresh, close etc.) |
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| 09:18.50 | shal3r | Any fix on kded4 CPU usage? It's using ~40-70% CPU all the time for many latest KDE 4.7 versions |
| 09:26.46 | rindolf | shal3r: seems OK here. |
| 09:27.33 | marisn | shal3r: have a picture frame? |
| 09:28.49 | shal3r | marisn, no. I'm not using any widgets except pages on panel, color picker, taskbar, clock and launchers |
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| 09:44.22 | Hydrar | Just quick question, did the performance enhancements for kwin go into the 4.8 RC? |
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| 09:46.52 | einar77 | Hydrar: yes, they were there since beta 1 |
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| 09:48.15 | Hydrar | einar77: ok, thanks, was just wondering seeing as I switched back to kwin on 4.7.4 but it still causes "hairdrier effect" on my laptop, so gonna upgrade to the RC then I guess |
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| 09:54.50 | osinclair_ | marisn_: do you have "switchable graphics"? |
| 09:55.22 | osinclair_ | shal3r_: what process exactly eats CPU for you? |
| 09:56.01 | osinclair_ | marisn_: that should read "hybrid craphics" |
| 09:56.26 | Sho_ | osinclair_: he actually said so (kded4 is a process) |
| 09:56.56 | osinclair_ | sho_: I used to have that problem but can not remember how I got rid of it |
| 09:57.41 | osinclair_ | shalr3_: I would search for bug report, I vaguely remember finding solution for it that way |
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| 10:34.30 | denys | Hi, I am having big trouble with KDE right now after KDE monitor daemon failing - Could someone help me troubleshoot it? |
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| 11:42.25 | aseques | Good morning, I am trying to setup my magic trackpad on kde and I'm having some issues... |
| 11:42.51 | aseques | I got it paired by using bluedevil with manual pin code 0000 |
| 11:43.16 | aseques | but I cannot see that any event on the trackpad is passing to my computer |
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| 11:44.12 | aseques | the bluedevil version on my pc is 1.1.1 from debian wheezy |
| 11:47.57 | aseques | This is the screen I see in bluedevil http://tinypic.com/r/117s5zo/5 |
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| 12:11.47 | saurabhsood91 | hi all, i cant get kde microblog, and even choqok to work. both are not able to authenticate with twitter. |
| 12:12.27 | the_madman_ | has been working on getting spell-checking working in Blogilo o/ |
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| 14:24.38 | porthimus | OK, so I'm at a loss here. I've been working with KDE for over a year and still can't seem to install icon themes that have a file named 'index.desktop'. the only ones that install and work correctly are themes that have a file named 'index.theme'. What gives and how can i work with this? |
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| 14:26.36 | Chatterbox | Hi all. |
| 14:26.46 | the_madman_ | waves |
| 14:26.48 | Chatterbox | I have a problem loadinh KMail. |
| 14:26.54 | Chatterbox | KMail encountered a fatal error and will terminate now. |
| 14:26.56 | Chatterbox | The error was: |
| 14:26.57 | Chatterbox | Failed to fetch the resource collection. |
| 14:27.06 | Chatterbox | This is the error |
| 14:27.19 | the_madman | porthimus: I don't know the solution to your problem, sorry. |
| 14:27.19 | Chatterbox | I am using it one KDE 4.7.4 on archlinux. |
| 14:27.27 | Chatterbox | Any ideas?! |
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| 14:27.46 | the_madman | Chatterbox: I've had this problem before, give me a moment to recall what it was. |
| 14:28.00 | Chatterbox | the_madman: Thanks a million. |
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| 14:28.58 | the_madman | Chatterbox: I believe that it was caused either by Akonadi not running (which was rarer in my case), or more frequently there was something wrong with KMail's identities. |
| 14:29.31 | Chatterbox | the_madman: I thought it was because of Akonadi too. |
| 14:29.40 | Chatterbox | the_madman: but it was running. |
| 14:29.46 | Peace- | tested kde 4.8 rc on kubuntu worsk fine |
| 14:29.58 | the_madman | Chatterbox: Do other Akonadi applications work? |
| 14:30.23 | Chatterbox | the_madman: yeah! |
| 14:30.29 | the_madman | I thought so. |
| 14:30.45 | Chatterbox | the_madman: Nepomuk, Korganizer, ... |
| 14:30.51 | the_madman | In that case, it's likely a problem with your configured (or unconfigured) KMail identities. |
| 14:31.23 | the_madman | I believe removing my KMail identities worked for me, but I had to do it manually in the configuration files. |
| 14:31.52 | Chatterbox | the_madman: I'll give it a try. |
| 14:31.55 | Chatterbox | thanks! |
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| 14:33.23 | the_madman | Chatterbox: you can find your identity configurations in $KDEHOME/share/apps/emailidentities |
| 14:33.38 | the_madman | typically ~/.kde/share/apps/emailidentities |
| 14:34.17 | the_madman | I think moving that folder to e.g. emailidentities-backup should reset it, then you can try to start KMail again. |
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| 14:35.39 | Chatterbox | the_madman: I don't have that directory in apps |
| 14:35.45 | Chatterbox | the_madman: I just have kmail2 |
| 14:36.27 | the_madman | Chatterbox: do you have a share/config/emailidentities file? |
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| 14:37.38 | Chatterbox | the_madman: Yeah, I just renamed thar, but it didn't work. |
| 14:37.57 | Chatterbox | the_madman: This is the error I get when I try to run from terminal:http://paste.kde.org/178748/ |
| 14:42.09 | the_madman | I'm afraid I don't know what the problem is, then. |
| 14:42.30 | the_madman | I remember encountering it for other reasons, but it's been a while so I can't remember how I fixed them. |
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| 14:43.28 | Chatterbox | the_madman: Anyway, thanks a million for the help. |
| 14:43.36 | Chatterbox | the_madman: I hope I can make it work. |
| 14:43.44 | the_madman | So do I. :) |
| 14:43.47 | the_madman | Good luck. |
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| 16:03.15 | wodim | are there any kde3 distros out there? |
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| 16:05.02 | thiago | old ones |
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| 16:10.03 | wodim | hmm |
| 16:10.11 | wodim | i mean, something more up to date... |
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| 16:10.34 | wodim | or some kicker port to kde 4... |
| 16:12.48 | uhuzi | hi guys, i upgraded my kubuntu from 10.10 and 11.04 and i lost my notes widgets, is there anyway to recover the notes that were written on it? |
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| 16:13.00 | arkascha | Two posts of mine I published on forum.kde.org are still marked as "Awaiting validation" after 8 days now and therefore not visible in the standard forum. |
| 16:13.08 | arkascha | Is there anything I have to do to get them "validated" ? |
| 16:13.44 | thiago | wodim: if you want kicker, you want old stuff |
| 16:13.51 | thiago | wodim: if you want new stuff, you don't want kicker |
| 16:13.57 | wodim | hmm |
| 16:14.01 | wodim | i mean the rest of the packages of the distro |
| 16:14.06 | wodim | oh wait |
| 16:14.08 | wodim | there's trinity |
| 16:14.59 | uhuzi | in which folder are usually stored the notes from knotes? |
| 16:16.08 | arkascha | uhuzi: what about a simple: find .kde4/ -name "*knotes*" |
| 16:16.27 | arkascha | uhuzi: or whatever suits for your local setup. |
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| 16:17.49 | uhuzi | arkascha: i don't have a ~/.kde4 folder |
| 16:18.47 | uhuzi | ok, i found .kde/share/apps/knotes but it's an empty folder :( |
| 16:19.08 | annma | uhuzi: in a terminal type: kde4-config --localprefix |
| 16:19.17 | annma | paste the output |
| 16:19.53 | uhuzi | annma: /home/user/.kde |
| 16:20.06 | annma | so .kde is where the settings are |
| 16:20.19 | uhuzi | annma: i think my notes were deleted during the upgrade :/ |
| 16:20.22 | uhuzi | or maybe i wasn't using knotes :/ i'm not sure anymore |
| 16:20.31 | uhuzi | what else could i have been using? |
| 16:20.51 | cb400f | kjots? basket? qweshtunotes? |
| 16:20.59 | cb400f | braindump |
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| 16:21.34 | arkascha | maybe those small yellow things you stuck to the side of your screen ? |
| 16:23.26 | uhuzi | ye no it probably was knotes |
| 16:23.32 | uhuzi | but i don't understand why my notes were deleted |
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| 17:17.05 | afuentes | how do i know what package contains the debug information for the following applications and libraries? --> /usr/bin/kde4-window-decorator - /usr/lib/kde4/kwin3_oxygen.so - /usr/lib/libkdecorations.so.4 |
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| 17:39.13 | Axanon | i'm having an issue with kde 4.7.4. I have 2 network mounts (which mount at boot).. and they mount fine, but when I try to access them trough dolphin, i get the message: An error occurred while accessing '/home on daedalus', the system responded: mount: according to mtab, daedalus:/home/ is already mounted on /mnt/network/daedalus/home |
| 17:39.18 | Axanon | mount failed |
| 17:39.46 | Axanon | I realize they are already mounted- but dolphin seems to want to re-mount them |
| 17:40.01 | Axanon | is there a fix/workaround to get this to work again? |
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| 18:10.33 | Che-Anarc | When connect a USB drive I get the logo but trying to access I get "Can not mount ......" what I have missed? |
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| 18:24.17 | jtheuer | Che-Anarc: check out 'dmesg' |
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| 18:57.13 | Axanon | in regards to the problem I mentioned earlier: http://i.imgur.com/QqjNV.png is a screenshot of whats happening when I try to go to the mounted drives |
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| 19:27.13 | hyper_ch | hi there, I just noticed that bugs.kde.org gets spidere for emails |
| 19:28.08 | wodim | "Unknown Error. (Unable to fetch item from backend)" |
| 19:28.09 | wodim | on kmail |
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| 20:26.04 | ponto | Are there kde 4.8 packages for opensuse? |
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| 20:34.45 | icewaterman | hi, i am using kde 4.7 and was wondering if it is possible to prevent the asterisk symbol from showing when typing ia password in the password field |
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| 20:42.56 | pinotree | ponto: #opensuse-kde |
| 20:43.36 | ponto | thanks. |
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| 21:48.19 | jschall | my screen goes blank after 5ish minutes in KDE, regardless of settings in powerdevil. screensaver is off. |
| 21:48.51 | jschall | any help? |
| 21:51.05 | jschall | $ xset -q / DPMS (Energy Star): / Standby: 300 Suspend: 450 Off: 600 / DPMS is Enabled |
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| 21:56.23 | jschall | the behavior of unchecking "screen energy saving" is completely wrong. |
| 21:56.48 | jschall | if i check it and change the value, xset -q always reflects the set value |
| 21:57.03 | jschall | if it is unchecked, xset -q shows 5 minutes |
| 21:57.09 | jschall | and the behavior of the screen reflects that |
| 21:57.16 | jschall | so it is a bug |
| 21:57.28 | jschall | i guess |
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| 22:02.50 | jschall | i'm trying this: check "run a script," and then type /usr/bin/xset dpms 0 0 0 |
| 22:02.53 | jschall | we'll see if it works |
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| 23:35.56 | gh0strider | hello everyone, if i wanted to add an icon to my kde desktop and the application was a python script in the icon preferences what would i need to add in the command line section so the python script could be loaded ? |
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| 23:43.02 | halakar | Hi guys! I am using KDE 4.8 RC I think under Mageia Cauldron, and I am having a bit of an issue with Kmix - it seems to be leaking memory and stealing about 25% of CPU. |
| 23:49.25 | gh0strider | so is it possible to add an icon on your kde desktop menu that is a python script, what would the command line section look like i tried something like: sh -c "python /root/app/gui.py" but that did not work |
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