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| 08:27.10 | opensourcecat | Hi All. Just re-installed everything and dumped my folders back to my new ~/ but lost all the networkmanagement connections... Knotes and konversaion config are ok. |
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| 08:28.12 | opensourcecat | checked in .kde4 folder undes apps and config and "networkmanagement" folder and "networkmanagementrc" file are populated |
| 08:29.05 | opensourcecat | the only thing that i'm thinking of is that when i backed up was kde4.7 and now is 4.8. Something changed in networkmanagement plasma applet? |
| 08:29.15 | opensourcecat | i'm on opensuse 12.1 |
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| 08:31.47 | eddyb | hmm, it appears cursor: vertical-text in chrome doesn't do anything |
| 08:32.11 | eddyb | however, it works on a Mac, so I can assume it's the oxygen-white cursor-pack I'm using that's the problem |
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| 08:32.57 | eddyb | any ideas if a vertical-text cursor is going to be supported? |
| 08:34.11 | eddyb | also, as you can see here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/CSS/cursor |
| 08:34.22 | eddyb | most of the -resize cursors don't have the oxygen style |
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| 10:46.13 | Justice | sup guys, a question. How do i move windows from desktop 1 to desktop 2? |
| 10:46.32 | Justice | cannot find the way to move them like in regular compiz (ctrl + alt + shift) |
| 10:46.54 | BitPuffin | I'm having with KDE's network manager |
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| 10:47.07 | BitPuffin | trouble* |
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| 10:47.52 | BitPuffin | Justice: you can scroll when you aren't focusing a window |
| 10:48.14 | Justice | yes i know how to change desktops |
| 10:48.26 | BitPuffin | oh |
| 10:48.34 | Justice | BitPuffin, but how do i move a focused window from desktop 1 to 2 |
| 10:48.35 | BitPuffin | read it wrong |
| 10:48.52 | BitPuffin | you can select the window in the in the corner and drag it over |
| 10:49.13 | Justice | yeah but there must be a way to make it with key combination + focus as in compiz? |
| 10:49.32 | pinotree | system settings → shortcuts & gestures → gloibal keyboard shortcuts → "kwin" component |
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| 10:50.03 | mitch0 | yo. is it possible to build kde4.7 without pimlibs? |
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| 10:52.13 | BitPuffin | My connection to my schools wireless always fails after a while or when trying to connect |
| 10:52.21 | Justice | pinotree, is there a way to move them with desktop, looking by i found window to desktop function |
| 10:52.22 | BitPuffin | the log looks like this when connecting and failing http://pastebin.com/iND82Ses |
| 10:52.33 | Justice | however then i need to move it and then move to desktop aswell |
| 10:52.59 | Justice | pinotree, don't take me lazy however i just used that allot in gnome enviroment.. |
| 10:53.15 | pinotree | aren't there the "window to desktop X" actions as you asked? |
| 10:53.43 | BitPuffin | Activities <3 |
| 10:53.54 | Justice | pinotree, again there is however when you execute it it moves yes. But not the view itself |
| 10:54.06 | Justice | so i need to execute move window and then move desktop |
| 10:54.23 | pinotree | i don't see you telling it, nor you should assume people here know what compiz does |
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| 10:55.16 | Justice | pinotree, in compiz or mutter you had a key kombination to move you destop left or right. holding shift key would drag the current window with the view. |
| 10:55.44 | Justice | so with one combination you would move both view and window that is in focus to left or right.. |
| 10:56.06 | pinotree | i don't see any combination like that in my kde (4.6) |
| 10:57.45 | Justice | hm im on 4.8 and also nothing there, or iwe missed it. |
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| 11:05.32 | aman_ | could anyone suggest some other package manager instead of muon ? |
| 11:05.40 | aman_ | it crashes a lot |
| 11:08.01 | aman__ | kde4 |
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| 11:52.51 | nicklas_ | hi. how do you make icon tasks not show full window previews when hovering with mouse over the icons/launchers in kde? |
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| 11:59.29 | nicklas_ | ? |
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| 12:06.58 | Sho_ | nicklas_: unload the taskbar thumbnail effect in the desktop effects list |
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| 12:09.04 | nicklas_ | Sho_ : i will still get the regular small previews? |
| 12:09.17 | Sho_ | yes |
| 12:11.26 | nicklas_ | in system settings Sho_ ? |
| 12:11.37 | Sho_ | yeah |
| 12:11.50 | nicklas_ | good ty |
| 12:12.34 | nicklas_ | is this a bug? |
| 12:13.11 | Sho_ | window previews? no |
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| 12:13.39 | Sho_ | actually though it occurs to me that you might not be talking about the taskbar thumbnails but the use of the present windows effect instead |
| 12:13.52 | Sho_ | in that case i think you can change the behavior in the icon tasks settings dialog |
| 12:14.12 | Sho_ | anyhow, gotta run, sorry |
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| 12:16.13 | cap_ | I have recently upgraded my laptop to Fedora16 this meant kmail with akonadi storage... Updating the folders (local maildir) the first time took ages (but is now done). What remains is that I receive mail through a local maildir location and this shows up as a folder now. |
| 12:16.40 | cap_ | All my new mail stays in that folder and is not puth through the filter chain and into my inbox.. any thoughts? |
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| 12:20.39 | cap_ | Also, a more general question, I thought that the new kmail was moving all my mail (maildir hierarchy) into akonadi/mysql but it seems all my old stuff is still there in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail... |
| 12:20.48 | cap_ | *confused* |
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| 12:21.27 | emilsedgh | i had Qt 4.8.0 from Debian experimental packages. Now i installed ir from sources. Everything is fine but...: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/23/plasma-desktopK15013.png |
| 12:21.47 | emilsedgh | Konqueror's status bar has stretched. any ideas whats wrong? |
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| 13:01.52 | BluesKaj | ' Morning all |
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| 13:21.12 | zeltak | hi all. i keep getting crashes with kwin every 10 minutes. here is the backlog: http://pastebin.com/nWmBw2z6 |
| 13:21.30 | zeltak | any idea why , also is there a offical kde forum to post it there? |
| 13:21.51 | annma | first you need to install debug packages |
| 13:21.57 | annma | to get a correct backtrace |
| 13:22.13 | annma | second: when did tis started to happen? is it a new installation? an upgrade? |
| 13:23.08 | annma | zeltak: ^^ |
| 13:23.27 | zeltak | annma: it started sine 4,8 i think |
| 13:23.47 | annma | so it was an upgrade |
| 13:23.48 | zeltak | and it was an upgarde but i did wipe out my 4.7 .kde folder |
| 13:23.53 | annma | well |
| 13:24.03 | annma | try a new user with default settings maybe |
| 13:24.27 | zeltak | mmm ok will do that later today , thx for the tip |
| 13:25.07 | annma | and install debug packages and get a valid backtrace and open a bug report at bugs.kde.org if it does it for a new user |
| 13:25.21 | annma | if not with a new user, see what triggers the crash |
| 13:25.29 | annma | what's your video card and driver? |
| 13:25.38 | annma | did it change for 4.8 when you upgraded? |
| 13:25.55 | zeltak | video card is intel |
| 13:25.57 | annma | all this needs to be documented to the bug report |
| 13:26.00 | zeltak | and no i didnt change it |
| 13:26.11 | zeltak | ofc i will open a bug report after i test the new user |
| 13:26.15 | annma | did your distro upgrade it |
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| 13:26.54 | zeltak | hmm sorta. im using arch. i first uninstaled kde then reinstalled kde 4.8 |
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| 13:28.44 | annma | also ask in arch channel if people reproduce it with your video card |
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| 13:29.53 | jklein | hello guys. I've got a problem w/KDE. Anyone care to help me out? |
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| 13:30.19 | annma | jklein: tell your problem with KDE version and distro |
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| 13:31.03 | jklein | Okay. Distro is Xubuntu 10.04. LTS. Newest Updates. KDE is 4.4.5. |
| 13:31.25 | jklein | I want to run KDE and XFCE on the same machine |
| 13:31.35 | jklein | so i log into KDE at gdm, but |
| 13:31.57 | jklein | it loads the stuff in my xfce autostart, which I dont want it to. |
| 13:32.18 | jklein | can I tell my machine NOT to load the stuff at startup of KDE, but to load it at startup of XFCE? |
| 13:32.39 | BluesKaj | jklein, why are you using gdm , for kde use kdm |
| 13:33.12 | pinotree | BluesKaj: irrelevant |
| 13:33.22 | jklein | that's what I thought, too |
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| 13:33.57 | BluesKaj | pinotree, are you sure ? |
| 13:34.07 | pinotree | sure |
| 13:34.14 | annma | whare is your xfce autostart folder? |
| 13:34.20 | annma | where |
| 13:34.30 | kde_pepo | jklein, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/make-applications-autostart-only-in.html |
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| 13:35.06 | BluesKaj | pls explain why it's irrelavent , pinotree |
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| 13:35.49 | pinotree | BluesKaj: because you can login in kde just fine from any login manager like kdm, gdm, xdm, etc |
| 13:36.14 | pinotree | likewise for other desktop environment or standalone window managers |
| 13:36.20 | jklein | okay guys, i'll give kde_pepo's suggestion a try, and then I'll come back and report |
| 13:36.21 | jklein | brb |
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| 13:38.47 | Peace- | hi i can't undestand how to search on krunner stuff using the wikiepedia' plugin |
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| 13:43.03 | jklein | hello again |
| 13:43.39 | jklein | didnt work, BUT I've might have made a syntax error, so I'll try again |
| 13:44.05 | annma | Peace-: isn't it wp:<search words>? |
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| 13:45.02 | Peace- | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:45.07 | Peace- | but i will ask to google |
| 13:45.27 | annma | it seems to work here |
| 13:46.23 | Peace- | annma: wp:kde ? |
| 13:46.32 | annma | yes |
| 13:46.37 | Peace- | mm |
| 13:47.52 | Peace- | annma: here doesn't |
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| 13:47.57 | Peace- | maybe i have disable stuff |
| 13:48.01 | Peace- | d |
| 13:48.44 | annma | I run 4.8 |
| 13:48.52 | Peace- | annma: :) thansk anyway yes i have 4.8 too |
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| 14:05.41 | jklein | Hello again |
| 14:06.06 | jklein | I tried to get rid of my problem like this http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/make-applications-autostart-only-in.html |
| 14:06.15 | jklein | and it partly worked |
| 14:06.36 | jklein | it does not load AWN anymore, but still xfce-panel. |
| 14:06.49 | jklein | I tried both ways, |
| 14:07.00 | jklein | only show and not show |
| 14:07.15 | jklein | any ideas what's going on? |
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| 14:14.07 | chuck_ | hello, I have a question about duel monitors with KDE... I have a nvidia graphics card... the problem is when I use twin view, KDE only seems to see one wide monitor (and all apllications when told to go full screen take up both monitors). When I use a seperate X Server, I can move the mouse across the screen but not windows, and KDE only sees one screen again |
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| 14:18.19 | soomsoom | is kde 4.8 more faster then 4.6 and more stable? |
| 14:19.23 | Peace- | soomsoom: just pick a kubuntu iso and test with a live cd |
| 14:19.46 | soomsoom | :O |
| 14:20.21 | Peace- | i found that kde is faster |
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| 14:22.11 | DaZ | 4.8 seems faster to me |
| 14:22.20 | soomsoom | and about stabillity? |
| 14:22.31 | quitte | hi. does anyone here recall how well online calendars and contacts could be used with kde2 ? |
| 14:22.55 | cb400f | I imagine such things hardly existed at the time |
| 14:23.00 | DaZ | dolphin seems to crash sometimes, but everything else is ok. |
| 14:23.46 | quitte | cb400f: both existed |
| 14:23.55 | soomsoom | DaZ: its still in development? |
| 14:24.49 | DaZ | soomsoom: i don't really get what you're asking about now :f |
| 14:25.12 | soomsoom | DaZ: kde 4.8 is still in development? |
| 14:25.26 | DaZ | it's already released |
| 14:25.31 | soomsoom | ah good |
| 14:25.43 | cb400f | of course it's still in development.. 4.8.1 is out in a couple of weeks :-) |
| 14:25.59 | soomsoom | :O |
| 14:26.00 | DaZ | then 4.8.1 is in development <: |
| 14:26.36 | chuck_ | :< any help anyone? |
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| 14:27.13 | BluesKaj | kde is always under development , depends which version you want to use |
| 14:27.40 | Peace- | soomsoom: kde is stable for me |
| 14:28.11 | DaZ | chuck_: i'd help you, but it's pretty hard to figure it out with only one monitor :f |
| 14:28.24 | DaZ | but nouveau probably works with it. |
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| 14:29.13 | chuck_ | whos nouveau? |
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| 14:29.18 | soomsoom | oh no.... fedora has 4.7.4 in their repo :O |
| 14:29.37 | BluesKaj | chuck_, have you tried the #nvidia chat ? |
| 14:29.57 | chuck_ | nope, but I have tried #xorg and #kubuntu |
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| 14:30.06 | chuck_ | I can try there next I guess |
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| 14:30.12 | Peace- | soomsoom: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ |
| 14:30.12 | DaZ | chuck_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nouveau_(software) |
| 14:30.36 | soomsoom | Peace-: im staying away from ubuntu, only troubles I got from this distro |
| 14:30.47 | Peace- | soomsoom: ok |
| 14:30.59 | Peace- | soomsoom: but i live cd is good to test |
| 14:31.04 | Peace- | a |
| 14:31.20 | soomsoom | I had enough from gnome 3 :O |
| 14:31.30 | soomsoom | its not comfortable |
| 14:31.41 | Peace- | soomsoom: is kubuntu... |
| 14:31.42 | Peace- | so kde |
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| 14:32.04 | soomsoom | yep |
| 14:32.07 | soomsoom | i need the new one |
| 14:32.20 | soomsoom | but they put it on the fedora 17 :O |
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| 14:33.48 | Peace- | soomsoom: do as you wish btw kubutnu 12.04 has 4.8 => http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/23/plasma-desktopic4846.png |
| 14:34.24 | soomsoom | Peace-: no a chance i will install UBUNTU |
| 14:34.39 | DaZ | dun dun dunnn |
| 14:34.43 | DaZ | get arch then. |
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| 14:34.49 | Peace- | get another then |
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| 14:35.22 | soomsoom | DaZ: i wish i could to back to arch... but mostly im not in home :O |
| 14:35.44 | soomsoom | i dont have enough time to update it |
| 14:35.48 | DaZ | Peace-: this cashew in the corner is ootb for kubuntu, or how can i get it? :x |
| 14:35.52 | soomsoom | every time i Come back to home |
| 14:35.55 | soomsoom | :| |
| 14:36.21 | Peace- | DaZ: what? |
| 14:36.43 | Ammler | hehe, you forgot to mention suse on the distro flame war :-) |
| 14:36.46 | Peace- | just put them on the corner |
| 14:36.56 | Peace- | i have suse too |
| 14:36.57 | BluesKaj | Peace-, how did you get the menubar into the panel , not that will use it, I'm just curious |
| 14:36.58 | Peace- | :D |
| 14:37.19 | DaZ | qtcurve i guess <: |
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| 14:38.58 | Peace- | DaZ: no |
| 14:39.02 | Peace- | DaZ: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/23/plasma-desktophS4846.png |
| 14:39.08 | Peace- | BluesKaj: sorry was for you http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/23/plasma-desktophS4846.png |
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| 14:39.16 | DaZ | oh |
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| 14:39.35 | Peace- | BluesKaj: just sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-* |
| 14:39.45 | Peace- | BluesKaj: then install my plasma panel layout |
| 14:39.51 | Peace- | and you will get it in no time |
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| 14:40.28 | neo_ | Can anyone reproduce this: in a recent version of KDE4, add a notes plasmoid instance, write some text in there, minimize the note as much as possible, lock the plasmoids, then restart plasma with kquitapp plasma-desktop, plasma-desktop. Now the note has default size again. |
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| 14:42.45 | jklein | Me again. My problem ist solved, this http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/make-applications-autostart-only-in.html worked like a charm. Thanks! |
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| 14:49.48 | BluesKaj | Peace-, I didn't mean the whole panel, only the menubar with File, Edit, View etc |
| 14:50.20 | DaZ | neo_: seems to reproduce |
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| 14:50.55 | Peace- | [15:39] <Peace-> BluesKaj: just sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-* |
| 14:51.10 | Peace- | it's maybe too much |
| 14:51.32 | Peace- | BluesKaj: sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-menubar |
| 14:51.56 | BluesKaj | the menubar with File, Edit, View etc , only , nothing else |
| 14:52.05 | Peace- | yes |
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| 14:53.16 | Peace- | BluesKaj: just add the widget menubar :S http://wstaw.org/m/2012/02/23/plasma-desktopsT4846.png |
| 14:53.43 | BluesKaj | it's ok Peace- , I was just curious , thanks |
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| 14:55.26 | DaZ | wo, it supports gtk |
| 14:55.33 | DaZ | shut up and take my money :x |
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| 15:09.24 | voondo | hi there, with kde 4.7, why chromium is shared between activities... is it possible to change that ? |
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| 15:22.42 | vdv | if many windows are opened taskbar items become very thin, looks very ugly, kde 4.5.5, is that a well known problem? |
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| 15:25.37 | neo_ | DaZ: thanks. I will search for an existing bug report and if there is none, create one |
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| 16:04.19 | neo_ | DaZ: this is now bug #294697 |
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| 16:57.02 | nixmaniack | hi, how do I reset panel settings to default in kde 4.8? |
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| 16:57.12 | nixmaniack | this doesn't work -> kquitapp plasma; rm $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-appletsrc; plasma |
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| 17:34.16 | dijonyummy | my kde windows are acting weird recently (4.8)? maybe due to. but even though my windows were maxed when i last used them when i go back they sometimes are non maximized, weird, running kde for a year, only recently this happens |
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| 18:35.29 | brestows | hi how to get SIGNAL layoutChanged in my app for kde |
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| 18:39.14 | aander73 | anyone know how i can get the samba kio to use clear text password for some shares? |
| 18:40.48 | Verge | brestows: You gotta be a lot more specific |
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| 18:45.34 | brestows | I want to know when layout (language changed) in system changed |
| 18:45.57 | brestows | sorry very bad english |
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| 18:48.47 | yecril71pl | When I copy 2 files and tell Dolphin to skip one of them, it still says "2 files copied". |
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| 18:50.23 | Aelingil | I am running ArchLinux w/ KDE and for some reason when i click on "Disk Utility" nothing shows up. However i know the secondary HD is there, it shows up when i run Ubuntu/KDE. |
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| 18:52.08 | cibaer | yecril71pl: perhaps report a bug about that? |
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| 18:56.21 | yecril71pl | cibaer: I believe it is a transient condition |
| 18:56.33 | yecril71pl | Oh, no, not this channel, sorry |
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| 19:02.12 | brestows | Verge: any ideas on this subject? |
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| 19:02.55 | Verge | I don't know your subject, that's the point |
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| 19:05.27 | brestows | Verge: I will think |
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| 19:21.06 | yecril71pl | Bug 294708 Submitted |
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| 19:33.57 | rindolf | yecril71pl: we are close to have Bug 300,000 |
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| 19:37.15 | yecril71pl | has a very round bug at Novell |
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| 20:57.28 | maheshwar | i am unable to build kate, i am getting this error |
| 20:57.29 | maheshwar | CMakeFiles/katepartinterfaces.dir/view/kateviewinternal.o: In function `KateViewAccessible::textAfterOffset(int, QAccessible2::BoundaryType, int*, int*)': /home/killer/kde/kate/part/view/kateviewaccessible.h:405: undefined reference to `qTextAfterOffsetFromString(int, QAccessible2::BoundaryType, int*, int*, QString const&)' |
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| 21:04.58 | yecril71pl | #kde-devel |
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| 21:06.33 | annma_ | maheshwar: what branch? |
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| 21:07.07 | Tahvok | Hey guys, I've been talking on #suse about setting akonadi to work on postgresql instead of mysql.. Before doing so on my main machine (I have tried it on some other which worked) I wonder what is the reason kde doesn't use pg primarily instead of mysql? |
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| 21:09.56 | annma_ | Tahvok: you can use it as you said |
| 21:10.15 | annma_ | Tahvok: distros can choose to install pg instead of mysql I suppoese |
| 21:10.25 | annma_ | KDE gives you the choice |
| 21:10.56 | Tahvok | annma_, didn't know that it was a distro choose... I tought mysql was the default of kde |
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| 21:11.13 | annma_ | Tahvok: mysql is not KDE |
| 21:12.09 | Tahvok | annma_, so it completely is a distro choose and mysql is not preferred by kde like I thought? |
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| 21:13.15 | BluesKaj | Tahvok, mysql is a package in your distro repository , probly optional |
| 21:13.21 | annma_ | mysql was at first the only db backend then pg got support |
| 21:13.50 | annma_ | Tahvok: what did Suse people say |
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| 21:14.18 | Tahvok | annma_, I'm using suse, and it came by default with mysql.. I just thought |
| 21:14.38 | Tahvok | annma_, that mysql is default in every distro |
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| 21:14.59 | annma_ | if you prefer pg then ask them to make it default |
| 21:15.17 | annma_ | maheshwar: 4.8 branch builds well |
| 21:15.20 | annma_ | for kate |
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| 21:15.31 | Tahvok | annma_, this was the main answer from someone, not sure if anyhow involved in suse.. |
| 21:15.32 | Tahvok | <Kendall> perhaps there is a large body of existing code that would fail on PG ? |
| 21:16.20 | annma_ | ? |
| 21:16.28 | annma_ | large body? |
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| 21:16.52 | Tahvok | again, i'm not sure he is involved anyhow with suse... |
| 21:17.03 | Tahvok | just was on the channel |
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| 21:17.08 | annma_ | don't you use akonadi postgreSQL backend SuSe package? |
| 21:17.23 | annma_ | to have pg support for akonadi?? |
| 21:17.52 | Tahvok | I am... but the default is mysql.. in order to use pg, you have to install it by yourself |
| 21:18.00 | annma_ | install what |
| 21:18.15 | Tahvok | postgresql, and configure it |
| 21:18.17 | annma_ | akonadi postgreSQL backend SuSe package? |
| 21:18.22 | annma_ | wait |
| 21:18.34 | annma_ | when you install akonadi postgreSQL backend SuSe package, doesn't it pull everything for you? |
| 21:18.53 | annma_ | maheshwar: master kate builds too |
| 21:19.20 | Tahvok | nop, I've tried it, and it said database error or something... althought it said that "driver" is ok |
| 21:19.35 | annma_ | so their packages are badly done |
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| 21:20.29 | Tahvok | annma_, strange... thought suse was one of the best when it came to kde... |
| 21:20.44 | annma_ | report to them |
| 21:20.58 | annma_ | nothing is bug free |
| 21:21.23 | Tahvok | annma_, it should be all configured automatically? |
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| 21:22.14 | annma_ | look what it says for Ubuntu for example https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/i386/akonadi-backend-postgresql |
| 21:24.09 | Tahvok | annma_, ok... does it mean that all distros should do the same? I mean, is it a bug if something isn't done like other distro? |
| 21:25.38 | annma_ | I suggest you report to OPenSuse the problems you had |
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| 21:25.49 | annma_ | what package you installed, what is missing |
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| 21:53.20 | mac^^^ | I've somehow lost the system tray from my panel. How can I restore it? |
| 21:54.37 | mac^^^ | I can drag the system tray widget from the widget browser to the desktop but thats not what I want, I want it on the panel |
| 21:54.58 | Tahvok | mac^^^, drag the widget to the panel instead |
| 21:55.15 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: when I tried that it would not do it |
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| 21:55.51 | Tahvok | mac^^^, strange..what kde version? |
| 21:56.19 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: 4.7 |
| 21:57.11 | mac^^^ | I think I've messed up something .... maybe I could restore ~/.kde directory from a backup |
| 21:59.12 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: when I try to drag the system tray widget to the panel, it has the "no" symbol indicating its an illegal drag |
| 22:00.07 | Tahvok | mac^^^, can you try dragging to the desktop, and then from the desktop to the panel? |
| 22:00.50 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: i'll try that, rebooting it now, .... I"m in irc here on my other fedora box |
| 22:02.04 | Tahvok | mac^^^, I've remembered that i had such problem... but it was with kde 4.3 or 4.4.... never had it since then... |
| 22:02.47 | Tahvok | mac^^^, haha |
| 22:03.09 | Tahvok | mac^^^, just removed my system tray, and tried adding it from widgets.. |
| 22:03.33 | Tahvok | mac^^^, so i moved it to the desktop first, and then from the desktop to the panel and it worked! |
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| 22:04.09 | Tahvok | mac^^^, strange problem, but I think it will work for you too |
| 22:04.44 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: I just draged the widget (using alt key and mouse) to panel and now its not visible |
| 22:05.35 | Tahvok | mac^^^, try adding a new panel and then moving the sys tray in there |
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| 22:06.17 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: its visible when I use autohide but all that means is I was unsuccessful in the drag from desktop to panel |
| 22:06.48 | Tahvok | mac^^^, what? I don't getit.. what you mean when you use autohide? |
| 22:06.49 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: ok, i'll try adding a panel |
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| 22:07.30 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: remember I said when I "dragged" it from the desktop to the panel (panel was not in autohide mode), it became not visible |
| 22:08.09 | Tahvok | mac^^^, the sys tray? |
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| 22:08.12 | mac^^^ | I put panel in "autohide" mode and then when panel was hidden I could see the system tray widget indicating all I did with the drag was to move it to the bottom of the window |
| 22:09.09 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: i could try the drastic thing of removing the panel |
| 22:09.15 | mac^^^ | but its my ONLY panel |
| 22:09.33 | mac^^^ | I kind of resist doing that |
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| 22:09.45 | Tahvok | mac^^^, how do you move it by the alt key? all I get is that it moves, but doesn't add up to the panel |
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| 22:10.22 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: correct .... without the alt key being pressed, I could not drag it at all |
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| 22:10.46 | Tahvok | mac^^^, try clicking on the blank space where the "close" "resize" etc..keys of the widget are |
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| 22:11.56 | Tahvok | mac^^^, so now it moves without the alt key? |
| 22:11.57 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: great that worked |
| 22:12.35 | Tahvok | mac^^^, glad to hear that.. although you made me think of what the alt key is for... |
| 22:12.35 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: I have some windows without "decorations" and using the alt key is the ONLY way to move them (i.e. no title bar, no nothing) |
| 22:13.06 | Tahvok | mac^^^, yeah I know that, but it's for windows... never tried the alt key on widgets before myself |
| 22:13.19 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: it works in kde |
| 22:13.51 | Tahvok | mac^^^, I didn't mean window$, I mean windows... |
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| 22:14.28 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: you mean as in bill gates? |
| 22:14.44 | Tahvok | nop...as a desktop window... |
| 22:14.45 | mac^^^ | oh you did NOT mean |
| 22:14.54 | Tahvok | finally :) |
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| 22:15.21 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: ok, again, I have some windows which dont have anything to "latch" onto to drag them, so using alt key would be the only way |
| 22:15.34 | jcolby | I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but I have an application launcher for google chrome on my taskbar. When I launch chrome using this launcher, the launcher stays visible. If i have a launcher for a kde app (konsole) the launcher is hidden while the app is running. |
| 22:15.38 | Tahvok | mac^^^, why is there a problem like that? |
| 22:16.45 | Tahvok | mac^^^, you made it on purpose or is it something that started happening? and what windows exactly it's happening? |
| 22:16.46 | JackWinter | is there an irc channel that can help with phonon? |
| 22:16.51 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: not really sure but I started those particular windows using kstart |
| 22:17.04 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: yes, on purpose |
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| 22:17.34 | Tahvok | mac^^^, hmmm.. never used kstart... can't help you, sorry :) |
| 22:17.50 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: and I really never have the occasion to move them because I put them in a particular place on the monitor and virtual desktop |
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| 22:18.04 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: i'm NOT having a problem with that!! |
| 22:18.30 | Tahvok | mac^^^, then I'm really confused.. what exactly is "kstart"? |
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| 22:20.15 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: if its installed, do kstart --help |
| 22:20.45 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: its a way to start windows and to have control on some things in the way the window is presented |
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| 22:21.11 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: i am also making use of xdotool to control placement of windows |
| 22:22.00 | Tahvok | mac^^^, well... never had problems with placing the windows with the mouse.. .so not sure I'm ever gonna need this XD |
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| 22:23.19 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: the reason I do that is because I'm launching multiple windows from a perl script which reads a config file which tells where to put windows (what monitor, what desktop, size, location) and auto logins to various servers and issues commands such as tail -f logfile |
| 22:23.32 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: I'm lazy |
| 22:26.45 | mac^^^ | Tahvok: for years I used gnome but when the new gnome came out, they changed the way virtual desktops were handled so I tried kde and loved it |
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| 22:38.53 | egw | anyone here know about lancelot? |
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| 22:42.40 | BluesKaj | !lancelot | egw |
| 22:42.53 | BluesKaj | hmm , no factoids |
| 22:44.25 | BluesKaj | egw, you should have it available in your package manager , it's part of the KDE Plasma addons module |
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| 22:51.33 | egw | sorry I mean I need some help with it. I already have it installed |
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| 22:52.30 | egw | running opensuse 12.1 64bit, kde 4.7.2 |
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| 23:55.53 | lgfreitas | Hi... i have two questions... first is how do I remove the title of a window? I don't want to remove the entire titlebar, i just want the title to be empty... Second one is how can I use a solid background for the windows? i mean, its always some sort of gradient |
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