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| 02:16.22 | Alumin | is it possible, in KDE 4.7, to have multi-key global keyboard shortcuts |
| 02:16.41 | Alumin | e.g. I used to have "Minimize Window" bound to "Alt-Space, n" |
| 02:16.55 | Alumin | the global shortcuts dialog doesn't seem to have the interface to define a multi-key sequence any more |
| 02:17.22 | Alumin | and/or is there a way to define a global keyboard shortcut to pull up the "root menu", I can't seem to find one in the list of available KWin global shortcuts |
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| 02:22.01 | Alumin | ah, there it is...Window Operations Menu |
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| 02:53.21 | ybit | map of kde users: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=206578397069667369090.0004ba9deed0dff19786f&msa=0&ll=28.304381,6.679688&spn=130.509252,346.289063 |
| 02:53.26 | ybit | don't forget to put yourself on it :) |
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| 02:58.22 | linuxguy101 | how do i add a simple icon with kde.. |
| 02:58.35 | linuxguy101 | anyone have a 900000 page document on this one? |
| 02:58.48 | linuxguy101 | ver 4. crap is what i am using |
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| 03:07.22 | linuxguy101 | this downgrade to version 4 from version 3 is really insane |
| 03:08.09 | linuxguy101 | there is little to no improvement on the user interface and ver 4 has considerably increased the complexity of simple tasks to something that is virtually unusible |
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| 03:09.01 | linuxguy101 | i would say that over all version 4 kde is a disaster in open source coding and the project needs to be scrapped |
| 03:09.39 | linuxguy101 | i would say that it seems that commercial interests have infultrated ver 4 develpment |
| 03:09.55 | linuxguy101 | from outside sources to destroy kde gui. |
| 03:10.30 | linuxguy101 | what i am saying needs to be looked at further. like how many coders are working for corperations at the same time |
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| 03:12.37 | I_Died_Once | hi, not sure where to get started on this problem - i am running a dual head (two monitor) setup, I am running separate x sessions for each screen, without xinelera or twinview - the kde & plasma desktop in the second screen is weird and the 'windows' have no title bars and can not be moved, nor does any of my keyboard input seems to be taken by the second screen either |
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| 03:14.07 | I_Died_Once | running kde 4.4.5 (debian squeeze amd64) |
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| 03:15.12 | linuxguy101 | reboot computer |
| 03:15.56 | I_Died_Once | ...not sure if serious, or trolling |
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| 03:16.25 | linuxguy101 | I_Died_Once: have you tried rebooting |
| 03:16.37 | I_Died_Once | i restarted x |
| 03:16.42 | I_Died_Once | ok, will try |
| 03:16.45 | I_Died_Once | fuggit |
| 03:16.47 | I_Died_Once | thx |
| 03:17.01 | linuxguy101 | i have a dual and simular features |
| 03:17.30 | linuxguy101 | seems that bug fixes are the last thing that happen in this room |
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| 03:25.27 | I_Died_Once | linuxguy101 - can you pastebin your xorg conf? |
| 03:25.34 | I_Died_Once | rebooting didnt help |
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| 03:26.18 | I_Died_Once | i can not type into the second or, nor do any of the windows have the bars up top and they can not be moved |
| 03:26.48 | I_Died_Once | second screen that is |
| 03:27.06 | linuxguy101 | welcome to kde ver 4 man |
| 03:27.45 | linuxguy101 | i have a laptop with dual monitors i get the same problems about one in every 30 boots |
| 03:28.02 | linuxguy101 | some times a video monitor unplug while in kde fixes it. |
| 03:28.07 | I_Died_Once | i get it persisitently every boot |
| 03:28.24 | linuxguy101 | you have another gui loaded |
| 03:29.11 | linuxguy101 | if not install another gui.. |
| 03:29.26 | I_Died_Once | what do you mean by gui |
| 03:29.42 | linuxguy101 | graphical user interface |
| 03:29.49 | linuxguy101 | you are new to linux? |
| 03:29.50 | I_Died_Once | i'm running kde 4.4.5 (debian squeeze) |
| 03:30.02 | I_Died_Once | no, not really |
| 03:30.13 | linuxguy101 | well run another windows manager other than kde |
| 03:30.20 | linuxguy101 | it will probly work |
| 03:30.32 | I_Died_Once | will try |
| 03:30.36 | I_Died_Once | good idea |
| 03:30.40 | I_Died_Once | i prefer my kde though |
| 03:30.57 | linuxguy101 | sorry kde ver 4 is very poor in my opinion.. |
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| 04:52.05 | yottabit | the map of kde users is now editable, i had forgotten to enable this earlier |
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| 04:57.33 | o_a | yottabit: I cant edit it |
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| 05:10.15 | yottabit | o_a: are you logged into google? |
| 05:10.28 | yottabit | you need to be logged in to edit |
| 05:10.41 | o_a | Yup |
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| 05:11.30 | o_a | I'm logged, yet I can't see an "Edit" button anywhere |
| 05:12.17 | yottabit | o_a: http://image.bayimg.com/manmmaadb.jpg |
| 05:12.23 | yottabit | that shows the edit button highlighted |
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| 05:12.29 | yottabit | do you see an edit button there? |
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| 10:04.22 | jhoechtl365 | Hi! |
| 10:04.50 | jhoechtl365 | I havent switched to 4.8 yet, but I experience knotify4 eating 3% of my CPU. |
| 10:05.20 | Tm_T | yes? |
| 10:06.19 | jhoechtl365 | setting to "No audio output" in "Application and notification Settings" brings it down to normal |
| 10:06.53 | jhoechtl365 | rewinding .... -> "I havent switched to 4.8 yet, but I experience knotify4 eating 3% of my CPU." |
| 10:07.49 | jhoechtl365 | Laptop will last 20 mins longer when disabled. I wonder if it's worth digging into or if its gone in 4.8 |
| 10:09.16 | jhoechtl365 | You have to check using "top" on Terminal |
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| 10:09.51 | jhoechtl365 | CTRL-ESC (System Activity) doesnt show it properly, duno why |
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| 10:10.34 | dadada | hey |
| 10:11.04 | jhoechtl365 | ho |
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| 10:14.18 | jhoechtl365 | ping Tm_T: can you verify? |
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| 10:28.57 | jhoechtl365_1 | I am still on 4.7.4 and I experience knotify4 eating 3% of my CPU. |
| 10:29.06 | jhoechtl365_1 | setting to "No audio output" in "Application and notification Settings" brings it down to normal |
| 10:29.13 | jhoechtl365_1 | Laptop will last 20 mins longer when disabled. I wonder if it's worth digging into or if its gone in 4.8 |
| 10:29.19 | jhoechtl365_1 | can somebody verify? |
| 10:29.47 | svuorela | jhoechtl365_1: I_would be surprised if it was gone. |
| 10:30.16 | jhoechtl365_1 | hm, but this behaviour affects a lot of people |
| 10:32.38 | jhoechtl365_1 | haven't even seen a bug report on this in bugs.kde.org |
| 10:33.37 | jhoechtl365_1 | makes RC6 on latops rather pointless |
| 10:34.38 | Tm_T | jhoechtl365_1: I don't see knotify eating cpu here at all |
| 10:35.06 | jhoechtl365_1 | Tm_T: checked using "top'? |
| 10:35.25 | Tm_T | I lied, it does eat ~0.9 % |
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| 10:35.53 | Tm_T | nope, not top |
| 10:36.02 | jhoechtl365_1 | yeah, I assume you have a powerful CPU |
| 10:36.09 | jhoechtl365_1 | on older ones it keeps the fans spinning |
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| 10:36.48 | Tm_T | jhoechtl365_1: no difference even if I set the player settings to be "no audio output" |
| 10:37.01 | jhoechtl365_1 | Tm_T: You have to log out and come back |
| 10:37.09 | Tm_T | uh, cannot do that now |
| 10:37.37 | Tm_T | jhoechtl365_1: basicly you're saying knotify needs to be restarted |
| 10:38.04 | jhoechtl365_1 | uhm ... others report that killall pid doesn't work reliably but try |
| 10:40.06 | svuorela | jhoechtl365_1: I think the right place to blame is the used phonon backend. |
| 10:40.42 | Tm_T | svuorela: I'm going to try with mplayer, so we can say if it's phonon or not |
| 10:40.59 | svuorela | Tm_T: with mplayer ? |
| 10:41.12 | Tm_T | svuorela: no, mplayer instead of phonon |
| 10:41.27 | svuorela | Tm_T: for knotify ? |
| 10:41.31 | Tm_T | yes |
| 10:41.34 | jhoechtl365_1 | svuorela, Tm_T: it keeps using CPU without playing a sound |
| 10:41.44 | Tm_T | jhoechtl365_1: yes |
| 10:41.54 | svuorela | Tm_T: how would you do that? |
| 10:42.16 | svuorela | jhoechtl365_1: I think it is a matter of creating a audio object or not in knotify |
| 10:42.30 | jhoechtl365_1 | svuoreal: think so too |
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| 10:42.52 | Tm_T | svuorela: systemsettings -> Application and System Notifications -> MAnage Notifications -> Player Settings -> "Use an external player" |
| 10:43.49 | svuorela | Tm_T: oh. we have that possibility. |
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| 10:44.06 | gribouille | why isn't the 4.8.1 release announcement out yet? |
| 10:44.22 | Tm_T | gribouille: because it's not released yet? |
| 10:44.39 | gribouille | Tm_T, it's already available on kubuntu |
| 10:45.04 | Tm_T | gribouille: yes, for testing, to see if it can be released yet |
| 10:45.49 | svuorela | Tm_T: hah. players << "wavplay" << "aplay" << "auplay" << "artsplay" << "akodeplay"; |
| 10:45.51 | gribouille | Tm_T, I don't see any differences between 4.8.0 and 4.8.1 |
| 10:46.06 | Tm_T | gribouille: yes? |
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| 10:46.22 | gribouille | Tm_T, where can I see the changelog? |
| 10:46.35 | Tm_T | gribouille: I suppose it's available when the release is made |
| 10:46.44 | Tm_T | svuorela: I used my own script as player back in KDE3 time to avoid arts |
| 10:47.04 | Tm_T | jhoechtl365_1: so yeah, it's phonon to blame it seems, is the bug reported yet? |
| 10:47.58 | jhoechtl365_1 | Tm_T: on launchpad kubuntu, bit I guess bugs.kde.org will be better? |
| 10:48.21 | svuorela | jhoechtl365_1: a patch would be best |
| 10:48.26 | Tm_T | bugs.kde.org, it's upstream bug very likely |
| 10:48.56 | jhoechtl365_1 | svuorela: ;) haven't touched c++ maybe 5 years now, so sorry |
| 10:49.19 | jhoechtl365_1 | Tm_T, will do, thanks for verifying |
| 10:49.19 | svuorela | jhoechtl365_1: half of the backend-communicating code is also c, so no problem |
| 10:49.27 | svuorela | jhoechtl365_1: which phonon backend do you use? |
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| 10:52.09 | jhoechtl365_1 | svuorela: how to test? |
| 10:52.20 | svuorela | jhoechtl365_1: look in the audio configuration thing |
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| 10:53.45 | jhoechtl365_1 | svuorela: Phonon GStreamer backend 4.5.1 |
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| 10:54.14 | svuorela | jhoechtl365_1: just for fun and giggles, try the vlc backend if that one is different |
| 10:54.40 | jhoechtl365_1 | lend me the apt-get to install? there s' only gstreamer to choose from |
| 10:55.15 | svuorela | jhoechtl365_1: sudo apt-get install phonon-backend-vlc |
| 10:57.04 | jhoechtl365_1 | brb |
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| 11:01.18 | jhoechtl365_1 | svuorela: works -- mostly |
| 11:01.38 | jhoechtl365_1 | gave me two cracking sounds , but CPU is not noticably any more |
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| 11:02.18 | svuorela | jhoechtl365_1: then the bug is in gstreamer or in phonon-gstreamer :) |
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| 11:03.53 | jhoechtl365_1 | svurela: I file a bug? |
| 11:04.21 | jhoechtl365_1 | or a way to narrow it down |
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| 11:09.46 | jhoechtl365_1 | svuorela: I file a bug? |
| 11:09.49 | jhoechtl365_1 | or a way to narrow it down |
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| 11:15.40 | svuorela | jhoechtl365_1: I'm not sure I off the head knows a way to narrow it down. |
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| 11:16.10 | Abhijit | hi |
| 11:16.21 | jhoechtl365_1 | svuorela: K, so I will assign it to phonon-gstreamer |
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| 13:25.35 | hyper_ch | is there a way to make KDE stick to analog audio and not use hdmi? It always keeps resetting |
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| 13:27.58 | pansmieszek | hyper_ch: you can select in phonon settings which device should get priority |
| 13:28.24 | hyper_ch | pansmieszek: how? |
| 13:28.24 | pansmieszek | but to make it global you probably need to cast some asoundrc magic :f |
| 13:28.37 | pansmieszek | systemsettings → multimedia |
| 13:28.38 | hyper_ch | pansmieszek: when I enable analog, then hdmi is being greyed out |
| 13:28.43 | hyper_ch | and sometimes hdmi just comes back |
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| 13:29.58 | pansmieszek | is it on random basis, or in specific applications? :f |
| 13:30.03 | hyper_ch | and when hdmi comes back, analog is turned off |
| 13:30.09 | hyper_ch | pansmieszek: it's computer dependant |
| 13:30.15 | pansmieszek | hum |
| 13:30.22 | hyper_ch | sometimes because of hdmi video, hdmi audio gets enalbed |
| 13:30.32 | hyper_ch | and by doing so, it greys out / deactivates analog audio |
| 13:31.14 | pansmieszek | dunno, hdmi concept seems to be beyond me :f |
| 13:31.28 | hyper_ch | :) |
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| 13:33.01 | ealexp | hi |
| 13:33.04 | hyper_ch | pansmieszek: I think I just solved the issue |
| 13:33.18 | ealexp | every time I log in in KDE, I have this notification : The audio playback device HDA Intel PCH (ALC269VB Analog) does not work. |
| 13:33.22 | ealexp | Falling back to Default. |
| 13:33.24 | ealexp | the sound is working anyway |
| 13:33.24 | hyper_ch | just plugging the audio in at the screen |
| 13:33.33 | ealexp | but when I try to change sound levels in kmix, it doesn't work |
| 13:33.47 | ealexp | the only sound level that works is "Bass Speaker" |
| 13:33.55 | ealexp | if I change it, the actual sound level changes too |
| 13:34.08 | ealexp | but if I change, for instance, "PCM" or "Master", it doesn't work |
| 13:34.11 | hyper_ch | ealexp: what about systemsettings -> multimedia -> phonon? |
| 13:34.21 | ealexp | the actual sound level doesn't change |
| 13:34.35 | BluesKaj | hyper_ch, I have to ask. when you choose hdmi in phonon , do you choose "apply device list to" then click apply ? |
| 13:34.51 | ealexp | I don't have any phonon option in multimedia hyper_ch |
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| 13:34.54 | BluesKaj | or analog |
| 13:34.58 | zipace | hello |
| 13:34.59 | ealexp | but I have a backend tab |
| 13:35.11 | ealexp | but I don't know if this is what you want to know |
| 13:35.17 | hyper_ch | BluesKaj: where is that "apply device list to"? |
| 13:35.20 | ealexp | and the backend is vlc |
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| 13:35.36 | hyper_ch | BluesKaj: there are three tabs for phonon.... one is the audio playback device |
| 13:35.46 | hyper_ch | BluesKaj: analog is greyed out when in the setup hdmi is chosen |
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| 13:35.55 | hyper_ch | BluesKaj: hdmi is greyed out when in the setup analog is chosen |
| 13:36.02 | BluesKaj | hyper_ch, at the bottom left , you have to choose a device first |
| 13:36.02 | hyper_ch | (and also same for iec958) |
| 13:36.26 | hyper_ch | BluesKaj: nah, never pressed that... only pressed apply on the bottom right |
| 13:36.35 | BluesKaj | hyper_ch, yes and vice versa , correct ? |
| 13:37.04 | BluesKaj | if you analog do the same thing |
| 13:37.08 | BluesKaj | choose |
| 13:37.19 | hyper_ch | BluesKaj: not sure what you mean.... what I did was enable analog... and sometimes it just went back to hdmi when attached to a hdmi scren |
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| 13:38.03 | ealexp | hyper_ch: do you have any solution for my problem? |
| 13:38.14 | hyper_ch | BluesKaj: but I solved the problem now with using the analog audio output jack on the monitor |
| 13:38.20 | hyper_ch | I just plug the speakers in there and use hdmi |
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| 13:38.42 | hyper_ch | ealexp: no phonon options in systemsettings -> multimdeia? |
| 13:38.50 | ealexp | no |
| 13:38.57 | hyper_ch | screenshot? |
| 13:39.01 | ealexp | I only have a Device Preferences and Backend tab |
| 13:39.12 | ealexp | but the title of the window is phonon hyper_ch |
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| 13:39.45 | hyper_ch | ealexp: I can't help you... I have troubles myself with it :) |
| 13:39.50 | BluesKaj | hyper_ch, ok ,so what setting are you using in the "audio hardware setup" tab ? |
| 13:40.29 | BluesKaj | ealexp, yes device preferences for phonon |
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| 13:40.34 | hyper_ch | BluesKaj: now I use digital audio (hdmi) |
| 13:41.00 | BluesKaj | hyper_ch, well, shange nthat to analog out if you have the option |
| 13:41.09 | BluesKaj | change |
| 13:41.12 | hyper_ch | BluesKaj: that's what I did before |
| 13:41.20 | hyper_ch | BluesKaj: and sometimes automagically it changed back to hdmi |
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| 13:41.56 | hyper_ch | BluesKaj: that's the whole problem I was describing before |
| 13:42.13 | ealexp | well there is a screenshot here : |
| 13:42.15 | BluesKaj | hyper_ch, ok pastebin your /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file pls , need to see what's going on there |
| 13:42.21 | ealexp | it may help you |
| 13:42.22 | ealexp | http://uppix.com/f-capture1764f5765a3000f6d69.png |
| 13:43.43 | hyper_ch | BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/873006/ |
| 13:43.48 | BluesKaj | ealexp, do you "test" your selections before moving them up in preference? |
| 13:44.12 | hyper_ch | BluesKaj: as said, I set now to hdmi and use the audio jacks at the external monitor |
| 13:44.26 | ealexp | BluesKaj: I did not move anything up in preference |
| 13:44.30 | ealexp | and I have tested two of them |
| 13:44.34 | ealexp | the first one in the list |
| 13:44.38 | ealexp | and the "default" one |
| 13:44.42 | ealexp | they both work |
| 13:45.47 | BluesKaj | ok bbl ...gotta go for a while |
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| 13:51.29 | ealexp | is there anyone? |
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| 13:52.33 | pablo_s | ealexp: yes. |
| 13:53.00 | ealexp | hi pablo_s |
| 13:53.07 | ealexp | so I have a sound problem with KDE |
| 13:53.19 | ealexp | every time I log in in my session, I have this notification : "The audio playback device HDA Intel PCH (ALC269VB Analog) does not work." |
| 13:53.22 | ealexp | "Falling back to Default." |
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| 13:53.38 | ealexp | but the sound works |
| 13:53.54 | ealexp | and when I try to change sound levels with kmix or alsamixer, |
| 13:54.12 | ealexp | changing the "Master" level doens't do anything |
| 13:54.42 | ealexp | I can only change the sound level by changing the "PCM" or "Bass Speaker" levels |
| 13:54.52 | ealexp | any idea why this is happening? |
| 13:54.58 | pablo_s | KDE 4? |
| 13:55.00 | ealexp | yes |
| 13:55.01 | ealexp | 4.8 |
| 13:55.04 | ealexp | with ArchLinux |
| 13:55.12 | ealexp | the sound card is this : 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:1c20] (rev 05) |
| 13:55.22 | ealexp | (lspci -nn) |
| 13:55.32 | ealexp | also, the sound seems a little low |
| 13:55.42 | pablo_s | If it were me, there are two ways I'd tackle the problem. |
| 13:56.23 | ealexp | yes? |
| 13:56.27 | ealexp | what are those ways? |
| 13:56.42 | pablo_s | First, you can create another account on your machine and login to that account. You'll get a fresh set of KDE files. See if all is okay. If it is, then it'd suggest the problem is rooted in your local KDE config files. |
| 13:57.11 | JackBauer24 | ealexp: it sounds more like ArchLinux problem, I've had some sound problems on this distro myself. Try on #archlinux |
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| 13:57.24 | ealexp | ok pablo_s |
| 13:57.25 | ealexp | thanks |
| 13:57.30 | ealexp | and what is the second thing? |
| 13:57.34 | pablo_s | The other way is to log out and start at level 3 and kill your kmix files. |
| 13:57.39 | pablo_s | find them as follows: |
| 13:57.48 | pablo_s | suppose your home directory is '/home/ealexp' |
| 13:57.57 | ealexp | JackBauer24: I asked in #archlinux, but nobody could answer |
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| 13:58.18 | pablo_s | boot to level 3 (logging in as root) ... `cd /home/ealexp' and issue the following command: |
| 13:58.29 | pablo_s | cd .kde4 |
| 13:58.39 | pablo_s | find . -name '*kmix*' |
| 13:59.06 | pablo_s | the `find' will list all files with `kmix' in them ... once the list looks good to you, delete them: |
| 13:59.16 | pablo_s | find . -name '*kmix*' | xargs rm -f |
| 13:59.22 | ealexp | ok |
| 13:59.29 | ealexp | thanks |
| 13:59.33 | pablo_s | it's /important/ to be in the right directory though. |
| 13:59.53 | ealexp | but why do I have to reboot in level 3? |
| 13:59.56 | pablo_s | just to confirm, before you issue the `find', you need to be in your home directory's `.kde4' subdirectory |
| 14:00.09 | ealexp | can't just I log out, go to tty and delete them? |
| 14:00.24 | pinotree | ealexp: yes, just as your user (no need to be root for that) |
| 14:00.25 | pablo_s | you need to terminate your KDE session ... |
| 14:00.45 | pablo_s | right, as long as you're not logged in as `you' ... ;) |
| 14:01.02 | pablo_s | I figured the easiest would be for you to go to runlevel 3 ... but whatever works for you ... as long as you're logged out as you. |
| 14:01.09 | ealexp | well pablo_s, so I can just log out and go to tty, and login in another user |
| 14:01.19 | ealexp | thank you |
| 14:01.34 | pablo_s | yw ... the goal is to not have any applications (kmix) accessing their config files. ;) |
| 14:01.43 | pablo_s | that's the intention of having you not be logged in. |
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| 14:08.56 | ealexp | well I'm back |
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| 14:09.15 | ealexp | so pablo_s I have tried your first solution |
| 14:09.30 | ealexp | I created a test account |
| 14:09.33 | ealexp | logged in it |
| 14:09.53 | ealexp | and the same thing happens |
| 14:10.02 | ealexp | the same notification and the same sound level problems |
| 14:10.16 | ealexp | so I guess it's not KDE's fault but ArchLinux's |
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| 14:10.20 | ealexp | am I right? |
| 14:10.51 | pablo_s | I don't think I'd quite put it that way ... :) .. but it certainly seems to indicate it's not a configuration file in your set up. |
| 14:11.00 | pablo_s | what I'd try next is ... |
| 14:11.25 | ealexp | yes? |
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| 14:11.47 | pablo_s | ... re-create the account: as root, check the permissions ownership of the new user's directory and re-create it. |
| 14:12.01 | pinotree | what for? |
| 14:12.27 | pablo_s | next, power down the machine and once again, log in as the test user. See if you have the same problem. |
| 14:12.43 | pablo_s | pinotree: I'd like a clean slate between tests. |
| 14:12.58 | ealexp | which account should I recreate? |
| 14:12.59 | pablo_s | minimizes the number of variables. |
| 14:13.01 | ealexp | the test one? |
| 14:13.11 | pablo_s | yes ... but it's easy at this point ... |
| 14:13.15 | pablo_s | let me show you ... one sec. |
| 14:13.16 | ealexp | and why should I recreate it after checking its permissions? |
| 14:13.38 | pablo_s | I'm currently in /home |
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| 14:13.50 | pablo_s | ls -ld oracle/ |
| 14:13.58 | pablo_s | drwxr-xr-x 9 oracle oinstall 4096 Jan 3 14:36 oracle |
| 14:14.12 | pablo_s | what I can do as root is 'mv oracle oracle.O' |
| 14:14.33 | pablo_s | mkdir oracle; chown oracle.oinstall oracle; chmod 755 oracle |
| 14:14.50 | pablo_s | now `oracle' is re-set. |
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| 14:15.24 | pablo_s | just a quick way to re-set your test user. |
| 14:16.14 | ealexp | ok |
| 14:16.15 | ipodpz | hello, i'm trying to use banshee but when i open it i get a bugged window; if i start it using the konsole, i get that: http://paste.kde.org/434846/ |
| 14:16.18 | pablo_s | alternatively, you could delete the entire user and re-create it. I just find it easier to do the `rm -rf; mkdir; chown; chmod' thing. :) it's whatever you feel most comfortable doing. |
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| 14:16.40 | ealexp | but I don't understand your method pablo_s |
| 14:16.52 | ealexp | why can't I just do "chmod 755 testuser" |
| 14:16.58 | ipodpz | is that some gnome related issue? |
| 14:17.08 | ealexp | and then power off the computer, power it on and login in testuser? |
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| 14:17.50 | pinotree | ipodpz: looks so |
| 14:18.08 | pablo_s | another way to do this is cd ~testuser; rm -rf .kde4 |
| 14:18.13 | ipodpz | pinotree: are there some packages that i should install? would i get more help on #gnome? |
| 14:18.20 | ipodpz | i thought banshee was a kde application? |
| 14:18.29 | pablo_s | the key is you want to delete the .kde4 local configuration files of testuser |
| 14:18.32 | pinotree | banshee has nothing to do with kde |
| 14:18.58 | ealexp | ok pinotree |
| 14:19.04 | ealexp | I'll delete them |
| 14:19.08 | ealexp | pablo_s* |
| 14:19.11 | pinotree | ? |
| 14:19.11 | ealexp | sorry for the bad hl |
| 14:19.13 | pablo_s | lol |
| 14:19.20 | pinotree | np |
| 14:19.39 | pablo_s | pinotree: I think our names are similar |
| 14:19.43 | ipodpz | which kde application should i use to add music to my ipod shuffle? amarok is not working properly there |
| 14:20.11 | ealexp | pablo_s: do I have to power off and then power on the computer? |
| 14:20.14 | ealexp | or just reboot it? |
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| 14:20.34 | pablo_s | power it down please ... the reason for that is I want to rule out any potential BOIS issue. |
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| 14:20.42 | ealexp | also, I didn't mention it, and I don't know if it's useful to mention it, but the computer is a laptop |
| 14:20.45 | pablo_s | ideally, disconnect it for a second or two as well. |
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| 14:20.54 | pablo_s | oh, in that case, pull the battery. ;) |
| 14:20.59 | pinotree | bios issue for a sound issue? |
| 14:21.05 | pinotree | are you crazy or what? |
| 14:21.06 | pablo_s | last week, my Dell laptop's screen went blue! |
| 14:21.25 | pablo_s | very strange .... rebooted, stayed blue ... |
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| 14:21.36 | pablo_s | finally, I had to pull the battery and all was well ... |
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| 14:22.32 | pablo_s | pinotree: it's easy enough to run the test so rather than noodling it back and forth, just do it. I don't think it's going to matter but it's under the it-does-not-hurt-to-try category. |
| 14:23.04 | pinotree | this is just nonsense |
| 14:23.04 | pablo_s | I suspect the answer might be found in dmesg output though ... |
| 14:23.20 | pablo_s | okay, then feel free to chime in and offer help. |
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| 14:23.46 | pablo_s | no one is stopping you so take over and help him out. |
| 14:23.58 | pablo_s | ^him^him/her^ |
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| 14:27.39 | Oniklus | hello all. I have two question regarding KDE plasma. is it possible to remove the icon in the upper right corner? also, is it possible to remove the window names in the taskbar similar as in windows 7? |
| 14:27.44 | Oniklus | questions* |
| 14:28.48 | ealexp | ok so I'm back pablo_s |
| 14:29.00 | ealexp | I did what you told me to do but it didn't change anything |
| 14:29.02 | pablo_s | any luck? :\ |
| 14:29.06 | pablo_s | 'k |
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| 14:29.19 | pablo_s | have you looked at the output of dmesg? |
| 14:29.59 | pablo_s | to look for any strangeness? I think you might need to go back to your distro .. tell them what you've done to help narrow it down. |
| 14:30.12 | ealexp | I have looked in dmesg |
| 14:30.15 | pablo_s | you can also look in /var/log/messages |
| 14:30.17 | ealexp | but there isn't anything strange |
| 14:30.59 | ealexp | well pablo_s I have that in /var/log/messages.log |
| 14:31.01 | ealexp | Mar 7 15:25:56 localhost dbus[448]: [system] Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.Avahi': timed out |
| 14:31.04 | ealexp | Mar 7 15:27:17 localhost dbus[448]: [system] Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.Avahi': timed out |
| 14:31.08 | ealexp | but I don't think it's related |
| 14:31.11 | pinotree | unrelated |
| 14:31.14 | pablo_s | +1 |
| 14:31.58 | ealexp | ok so I'll go to #archlinux as you told me |
| 14:32.04 | ealexp | thank you for helping me |
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| 14:32.12 | pablo_s | that was someone else but yes, that's what I'd do ... |
| 14:32.31 | pablo_s | tell them what you've tried so far ... this way they don't ask you to do similar. |
| 14:32.45 | pablo_s | one other thing you can try is use a LiveCD and see if sound works with it. |
| 14:34.07 | ealexp | ok |
| 14:34.09 | ealexp | good idea |
| 14:34.23 | ealexp | also pablo_s I have just found that kmix could set a master channel |
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| 14:34.46 | ealexp | so I could change it to Bass Speaker and get Fn + sound up or down work again |
| 14:34.48 | ealexp | right? |
| 14:35.20 | pablo_s | Dunno .. I usually don't dink around with sound all that much .. just works with my distro. |
| 14:35.24 | ealexp | ok |
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| 15:05.38 | ipodpz | pinotree: i changed the widget style for GTK+ applications (under Application Appearance) and it solved the issue for banshee |
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| 15:06.05 | pinotree | buggy style |
| 15:06.23 | ipodpz | yes it was oxygen-gtk |
| 15:06.32 | ipodpz | i put it to ThinIce and now it works |
| 15:07.12 | pinotree | ok |
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| 15:11.54 | cb400f | ipodpz: what version of oxygen-gtk? ... iirc there was a problem with banshee fix0red some time ago |
| 15:12.15 | ipodpz | cb400f: how can i know? |
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| 15:12.18 | cb400f | so you may want to consider an update |
| 15:12.39 | cb400f | dunno.. depends on your distro.. check your package manager |
| 15:12.50 | ipodpz | cb400f: i'm on kde 4.8.1 (kubuntu) |
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| 15:13.27 | cb400f | hrm |
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| 15:14.51 | ipodpz | cb400f: http://i.imgur.com/ao7tF.png |
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| 15:16.47 | cb400f | hmm.. the latest one is 1.2.1 |
| 15:17.25 | ipodpz | cb400f: do you know how i can upgrade it? |
| 15:17.44 | cb400f | I think your version is the old buggy one... cuz iirc opensuse had the problem with oxygen-gtk 1.1.4 |
| 15:18.00 | cb400f | nope, ask your distro if there's a repo that has the latest version |
| 15:18.14 | cb400f | otherwise you'd need to build it yourself |
| 15:18.25 | ipodpz | cb400f: are you talking about https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=732887 ? |
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| 15:19.10 | cb400f | that's prolly it.. just remember some guys complaining on the mailinglist |
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| 15:26.54 | ipodpz | cb400f: BluesKaj told me that my versions were up-to-date |
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| 15:27.23 | cb400f | he lied :-) |
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| 15:28.21 | cb400f | oxygen-gtk2 is at 1.2.1 and oxygen-gtk3 is 1.0.1 |
| 15:28.23 | BluesKaj | cb400f, I did not ;) |
| 15:29.21 | cb400f | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+Gtk?content=136216 |
| 15:30.38 | BluesKaj | cb400f, odd because I'm running kde 4.8.1 on kubuntu 12.04 |
| 15:31.02 | cb400f | but oxygen-gtk is not part of kde sc.. so someone neglected to update those packages |
| 15:31.27 | BluesKaj | cb400f, obviously :) |
| 15:31.42 | ipodpz | which gtk theme is part of kde sc and best suited for gtk apps under kde? |
| 15:32.28 | cb400f | there's no gtk theme in kde sc.. and the best one (for most people) is oxygen-gtk |
| 15:32.41 | cb400f | at least if you use the oxygen style for kde too |
| 15:33.20 | ipodpz | ok thanks both for your help |
| 15:33.22 | cb400f | oxygen-gtk is very actively developed with monthly updates and whatnot |
| 15:33.57 | ipodpz | ok i'll try to make it work using the source |
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| 17:02.14 | ealexp | hi |
| 17:02.20 | ealexp | which phonon backend would you recommend? |
| 17:02.24 | ealexp | vlc or gstreamer? |
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| 17:05.55 | caf4926 | ealexp: vlc |
| 17:05.59 | ealexp | why? |
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| 17:20.28 | abe | is curious to know more about which is "better" now |
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| 17:21.14 | abe | last time I tried (maybe a year ago can't remember), the VLC backend isn't very usable at all |
| 17:21.23 | cb400f | ealexp: because it's not gstreamer >:-) |
| 17:21.46 | cb400f | just try both and see what workz for you |
| 17:22.14 | phobos_anomaly | abe: tell me about it. The xine backend was the only one that worked well for me |
| 17:23.03 | abe | ah, the xine one also... can't remember my experienc with it though |
| 17:23.17 | phobos_anomaly | its hit and miss with gstreamer. with vlc... well, I might as well forget about having sound |
| 17:23.24 | abe | is there any office comparison on that few backend? as if functionalily, or performance etc? |
| 17:23.35 | abe | ROFL... |
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| 17:23.58 | abe | I'm using gstreamer now, and it's in general not bothering me I've to say |
| 17:24.25 | abe | though I can't really tell if the random issue with phonon is because of gstreamer or pulseaudio or not |
| 17:24.40 | phobos_anomaly | abe: the only real complaint I've got about gstreamer is that it doesn't always start up. Sometimes I end up rebooting several times before it kicks in |
| 17:24.48 | phobos_anomaly | thats why i said its hit and miss |
| 17:25.03 | abe | ah, I have this issue sometimes... didn't know it's due to gstreamer though |
| 17:25.11 | abe | I just need to logout and login again |
| 17:25.32 | abe | it's v annoying cos you only notice it not working when you need the audio lol |
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| 17:25.49 | phobos_anomaly | abe: I think it is gstreamer related as I've only seen it since I was forced to switch backends. Xine always worked without a hitch |
| 17:26.04 | phobos_anomaly | If you find something that says otherwise, let me know, will you? |
| 17:26.09 | I_Died_Once | is it me, or does kde use a different screen saver daemon than regular xscreensaver ?? |
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| 17:26.22 | abe | nice.... will definitely go and try out the xine backend and see if it's better..... only time will tell I guess |
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| 17:28.28 | abe | phobos_anomaly: the funny thing is the distro I'm using (aka gentoo) changes the default phonon backend from time to time... |
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| 17:29.35 | abe | cos of certain backend having big bugs not being able to play something, just like musical chairs... not v fun |
| 17:29.47 | phobos_anomaly | abe: That was what forced me to switch. I couldn't find the config that forced xine off |
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| 17:31.29 | abe | I'm thus curious to know if anyone keeps track of a comparison list of the backends on what's not working :) |
| 17:32.10 | phobos_anomaly | abe: If there is a comparsion chart, I haven't seen it. |
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| 17:32.32 | I_Died_Once | is there a way to tell my computer to use kde's screensaver daemon instead of the xscreensaver ?? |
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| 17:34.27 | abe | phobos_anomaly: just briefly googling... gstreamer seems to be the default backend now.. and the xine backend maybe deprecated... I wonder if that's true... any clue? |
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| 17:35.40 | phobos_anomaly | abe: on funtoo, which is just basically gentoo with a few more options, i still had to specify vlc or gstreamer in /etc/make.conf or in package.use |
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| 17:36.44 | phobos_anomaly | so I don't think they've set a default |
| 17:36.50 | abe | I see |
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| 17:38.26 | phobos_anomaly | abe: oh yeah, just an fyi, if you specify vlc, you'll get a picture with no sound in dragonplayer, if you specify gstreamer, you'll get sound but no video |
| 17:38.59 | abe | ROFL.... |
| 17:39.21 | phobos_anomaly | if anyone has managed to get dragon player and kaffeine totally working using gentoo and either of those backends, I haven't heard of it |
| 17:39.43 | abe | I don't have dragonplayer installed though... VLC is pretty much my main player. I found it to be easiest on most format |
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| 17:40.36 | abe | phobos_anomaly: kaffeine works nice here with gstreamer backend. "nice" as if good enough... not as good as VLC in general though |
| 17:40.52 | phobos_anomaly | abe: at least that works for you. I just went with mplayer2 and was done with the whole mess |
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| 17:58.50 | PasNox | hi |
| 17:59.03 | PasNox | google calendar akonadi plugin seem to no longer works with kde sc 4.8 |
| 17:59.05 | PasNox | any hint ? |
| 17:59.11 | PasNox | it was working fine with kde sc 4.7 |
| 17:59.17 | PasNox | i'm using kontact pim suite |
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| 18:31.03 | I_Died_Once | hi, trying to troubleshoot a couple of problems involving dual monitors and fullscreen behavior... I am running separate x sessions for each of my monitors without Xinerama enabled right now, and in my second x session, it is running kde but it is not accepting any input from my keyboard and none of the windows have title bars and cannot be moved |
| 18:31.24 | I_Died_Once | the screensaver is on it right now and i can not shut it off |
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| 18:41.42 | I_Died_Once | since i am running a separate x session, do i need to tell kde to do anything different for the second session, which is not behaving correctly? |
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| 18:45.42 | cb400f | I_Died_Once: the support for separate x sessions is not very good.. see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156475 |
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| 18:52.14 | ompaul | I_Died_Once: wrt the screensaver kill -9 from another location - with regard to not accepting input - how did you start the session? |
| 18:53.09 | I_Died_Once | both from rebooting the entire mahine from CTRL + ALT_ Backspace, resulting in the same |
| 18:53.58 | I_Died_Once | and in that second session, if i go to, like, change the properties of a desktop icon i create it tells me i have no permission |
| 18:54.27 | I_Died_Once | and the windows have no tital bars, thus cannot be moved or have them maximized or anything |
| 18:54.47 | maco | if you hold down alt, you should be able to move them |
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| 18:55.15 | I_Died_Once | yeah that works on my main screen but not on the secondary |
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| 18:59.03 | I_Died_Once | sorry was trying to ALT F$ a program and it closed my xchat |
| 18:59.08 | I_Died_Once | F4 |
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| 19:00.01 | I_Died_Once | does anyone know if there is a config file maybe that handles separate x sessions? |
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| 19:00.15 | I_Died_Once | im not sure if its x or kde giving me the problem |
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| 19:01.56 | I_Died_Once | here, i managed to take a snapshot |
| 19:01.59 | I_Died_Once | http://i.imgur.com/Bl2Bz.png |
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| 20:33.52 | gdebure | Any nepomuk / strigi guru here ? |
| 20:34.22 | pinotree | don't look for a person, just ask |
| 20:34.31 | gdebure | pinotree: OK |
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| 20:34.58 | gdebure | Nepomuk says: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. |
| 20:35.06 | gdebure | Any idea ? |
| 20:35.19 | gdebure | currently in 4.8.1, archlinux |
| 20:35.27 | gdebure | was also the same in 4.8.0 |
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| 20:36.26 | gdebure | I tried deleting all nepomuk related files I could find in .kde4 |
| 20:36.32 | gdebure | but to no avail... |
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| 20:55.44 | schreber | related to nepomuk, I guess, but is it normally a resource hog? |
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| 21:44.07 | pozic | Hi, did you know that dolphin can handle 120000 files in one directory? |
| 21:44.49 | pozic | Now, if the rest of KDE was only as good as Dolphin... |
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| 21:45.57 | Subfusc | pozic: just start hammering on that keyboard |
| 21:46.08 | liudas | :) my KDE is the best DE i have ever used, sad your KDE isn't... |
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| 21:46.39 | pozic | liudas: do you really use the kde menu? |
| 21:46.49 | liudas | it looks we have only the same good dolphin |
| 21:46.49 | pozic | Subfusc: what? |
| 21:47.19 | pozic | Nautilus was unable to handle 120000 files. |
| 21:47.26 | pozic | That's why it is semi-interesting. |
| 21:47.33 | Subfusc | pozic: last time i checked, KDE is Open Source, so if you want it better, just make it better. |
| 21:47.34 | liudas | pozic: yes i do, but icons only task manager |
| 21:47.54 | pozic | liudas: icons only task manager? |
| 21:48.03 | pozic | liudas: can you make a screenshot? |
| 21:48.26 | pozic | liudas: or do you mean that you mostly just click on icons on some task bar to start your applications? |
| 21:48.35 | liudas | he he i'm upgrading to 4.8.1 right no. i love KDE and love Arch :) |
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| 21:49.12 | pozic | I would like an improvement to handle many open windows. |
| 21:49.22 | liudas | pozic: yes, remove task manager ar fit icons-onlu task manager ir acts similar to Win7 but much better |
| 21:49.41 | pozic | KDE has something like that, like Windows 7, where you can hover over the terminal icon and see a preview. |
| 21:50.06 | pozic | That's something I currently use in some broken clone of some MacOSX bar. |
| 21:50.08 | liudas | pozic: sorry buddy i won't to lacy |
| 21:50.51 | liudas | lazzy |
| 21:51.13 | o_a | pozic: Icon tasks plasmoid is nearly identical to the Windows 7 bar. I think that might be what you want. |
| 21:51.13 | liudas | good night my wife is waiting for me... :) |
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| 23:11.50 | bullet_in_head | hi all! |
| 23:11.59 | israel_BigBoss | hi! |
| 23:12.14 | handheldCar | systemsettings keeps crashing |
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| 23:14.24 | bullet_in_head | sorry for the question but I search for it and can't find solution: I want to reset akonadi configuration...what I have to do? I already deleted .local/share/akonadi and .config/akonadi but I think there's something else to do...any idea? Thanks a lot! |
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| 23:23.00 | bullet_in_head | could be I find the solution..thanks anyway... :) |
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| 23:24.19 | israel_BigBoss | Hi guys |
| 23:24.35 | israel_BigBoss | I am trying to compile amarok to red hat 6.2 but I am having difficulties |
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| 23:25.25 | israel_BigBoss | while trying to compile amarok-2.3.2 which is compatible with 4.3.4 I get this file missing error |
| 23:25.48 | israel_BigBoss | http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=96863 |
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| 23:26.54 | israel_BigBoss | so I was wondering, how could I recompile my specific kdelibs 4.3.4-11.el6_1.4 version with the file plasma/widgets/webview.h ? |
| 23:27.01 | israel_BigBoss | which make option provides it ? |
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| 23:46.02 | israel_BigBoss | nobody :( |
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| 23:48.11 | kde_pepo | israel_BigBoss, any reason you are using outdated kdelibs 4.3? |
| 23:48.30 | israel_BigBoss | yes... I am using red hat workstaion 6.2 |
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| 23:55.41 | israel_BigBoss | gotcha!! |
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| 23:56.04 | israel_BigBoss | I found a patch file that disables webkit |
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| 23:56.10 | israel_BigBoss | now this I wonder why... |
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| 23:57.15 | bash` | hi all, is there some way to display windows previews in the Pager widget? |
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