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01:13.29dyrvereHm, it would be nice to be able to lock sizes on Places-icons for Dolphin.
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01:31.54JamesBHello. I had to end task muon-updater, and now starting it is crashing immediately. What should I remove to get it back to a normal state?
01:32.39dyrvereJamesB: Some .lock file I would guess?
01:33.11JamesBThat's what I was figuring. Where does KDE keep its?
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01:37.44dyrvereJamesB: Hm, checking but not finding it..
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01:45.56dyrvereJamesB: Sorry, can't find it, anyone else?
01:46.52dyrvereOh well, know how to gbd the bastich or where the logs are saved by it?? :D
01:47.57dyrvereIIRC, what does it say if you try to run it from Konsole?
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01:54.56DorkVaderyo, how does one change the default sounds in KDE?  the login/logoff/alert sounds?
01:56.13DorkVaderah, nevermind, got it
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02:41.57tcamdgis there any way to change the opacity of the "folder view" widget?
02:42.19tcamdgand how about other widgets?
02:49.19tcamdghello?
02:50.15kde__pepotcamdg, use a different theme
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03:03.06tcamdgkde__pepo: perhaps I'm selecting themes from the wrong place, but none of them seem to change the transparency of the folder view
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03:06.49ViHHow to get started with contributing to KDE ?
03:09.17kde__pepoViH, start here: http://techbase.kde.org/Contribute
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04:01.03hedgehoginfogHow do I enable (auto)spellchecking in KDE (say, in Konversation) in more than one language?
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04:02.41YellowGTOHey everyone
04:03.01YellowGTOAnyone else getting this errer on 12.04 Desktop effects are not available on this system due to the following technical issues:
04:03.01YellowGTORequired X extensions (XComposite and XDamage) are not available.
04:03.02YellowGTO?
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04:38.15balloHello. Is there a way to make konsole use the entire width for the tabs?
04:38.38balloIt seemed to do it in a previous version of kde (3?), but now it's annoying when I have, say, 6 tabs on a 1024 width screen
04:39.29balloI also don't see the point of the icon in the tabs
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06:29.40oneforall2what do I need to look at to get the hdmi sound working for some video sites? like youtube or any with flash
06:30.28oneforall2media setting changed to hw:1;7 isn't helping with fff
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06:33.49oneforall2ugh why is it now in 4.8.2 when changing the phonon backend we need to log out and back in again ?
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08:35.32oneforall2hmm still can't change the clock time from right click :(
08:36.06oneforall2hmm weird nv
08:36.45oneforall2cursor must have clicked Digital Clock Settings
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09:08.55mico_drehello, guys, is it possible to make panel fully transparent? i'm using Obsidian color theme, but panels are still the same light oxygen thing.
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09:16.24poorbotHello I need help, is anyone out?
09:19.41mico_dreanyone, please?
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09:22.36kxyep there's a plasma theme called barenaked that i think will do that. anyway to get your panel transparent you need a theme
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11:50.24BluesKajHey all
11:51.24Phr33d0mhey you and only you
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11:57.04fastaWhat can I do about this? The following REQUIRED packages have not been found: KDE4Internal.
11:57.22fastaLots of other packages seem to compile fine which suggest that just jovie is broken.
11:57.30fastasuggests
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11:57.54thiagodid you install kdelibs?
11:58.02fastathiago: yes
11:58.10thiagoincluding its development packages?
11:58.30fastathiago: all of it comes from git, so I would think so.
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12:00.02thiagowhat are you compiling?
12:00.07fastathiago: jovie
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12:00.27fastathiago: I think the whole build system is wrong for jovie.
12:00.33fastathiago: it says that the build was OK.
12:00.36thiagoI've never heard of it
12:00.55fastathiago: but in the findpackagelog it says it cannot find a required package.
12:01.05fastathiago: jovie is on quickgit.kde.org
12:01.54fastaSo, what should have happened is the build failing.
12:02.14thiagoif, as you say, it's entirely wrong, then it's simply busted
12:02.23thiagoyou get to fix it :-)
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12:05.37fastaI also don't quite get where to get speech-dispatcher, which is an optional package.
12:06.32pinotreehttp://devel.freebsoft.org/speechd
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13:19.34fastathiago: I got it to work; it's just a severe case of build systemeritis.
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13:31.22t3hcoolness1hello!
13:32.13t3hcoolness1I'm trying to make a kubuntu distro, and I can't find the default backgrounds folder.
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13:33.21t3hcoolness1Can someone help me out?
13:33.31pinotreeask in #kubuntu?
13:34.06t3hcoolness1Ok, thanks
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13:43.28Belial`pinotree: funniest thing. i was just looking at a screenshot with an icon set called pinotree.
13:43.35Belial`and i switch over and see your nickname.
13:43.41pinotreehm?
13:44.34Belial`oh nevermind. it was pino icon.
13:44.49Belial`but it has a tree as its logo.
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14:23.24[Moviuro]Hi all! I just installed a new font, which is told to be a fixed width one, but I'm not able to chose it in the Konsole....
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14:27.12Adaptee[Moviuro]: Did you close and restart konsole after installing that font?
14:27.27[Moviuro]Adaptee: I even logged out & back in :/
14:28.30Adaptee[Moviuro]:  then it means Qt does not think that font is a valid fixed-witth font.
14:28.58[Moviuro]... too bad!
14:29.52[Moviuro]BTW does someone here use
14:30.00[Moviuro]sorry, wrong chan xD
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14:35.51dvratilwhere can I change my email on reviewboard? I've changed it in identity.kde.org some time ago, but on reviewboard there's still the old one
14:37.38Sho_dvratil: i think you'll need to ask on #kde-sysadmin
14:37.55dvratilthanks, Sho_
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15:37.37Sho_yecril71pl: KDE version?
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15:38.00yecril71plKDE: 4.8.2
15:38.23yecril71plThe operation is long and cannot be interrupted because Dolphin stops responding
15:38.26Sho_yecril71pl: hm, dunno then. 4.8 introduced Dolphin 2.0 with the new view system, which has been very fast for me personally.
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16:50.18kollapseHello. How can I add more actions to the KDE context menu ? (the one seen in this picture - http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/ac.png )
16:51.16yecril71plask #kde-devel
16:51.20pinotreeno
16:51.41pinotreehttp://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Konqueror_Service_Menus
16:52.07pinotreekollapse: ↑
16:52.16kollapsepinotree: Nice character. Thanks
16:52.33kollapseIt's for Krusader, I don't use Konqueror ;)
16:52.46pinotreeit's the same
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17:30.23kollapseHmm. KDE app are silently not running. I try to run for example "kwrite" or "kdevelop" or "krusader" and it justs sits there doing nothing, no output, no nothing.
17:30.25kollapseAny ideas ?
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17:32.11kollapseI think it has something to do with a non-responding mount-point  ? Any way to diagnose this ?
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17:34.38yecril71pl{ kwrite --version; }
17:35.36kollapseyecril71pl: Qt 4.8.1 kde development platform 4.8.2 (4.8.2) kwrite 4.8.2
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17:36.58yecril71plSee? it runs and it is not silent.
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17:37.49kollapseNo, that does not run kwrite, it queries for versioning information ...
17:38.44yecril71plThe command { kwrite --version; } runs kwrite, or what else?
17:39.09kollapsekwrite -v does not run kwrite.
17:39.10Lace57kwrite --version checks which version is installed and tells you the result
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17:39.43yecril71plkollapse: what do you think it runs instead?
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17:40.18Digital-Lemonis there a way to use dolphin as another user hence i have a user that is interacted only from CLI
17:40.34Digital-Lemonand i never logged 'live' into that user, nor i ever will
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17:41.14Sho_yecril71pl: it technically does run kwrite, but it's not what kollapse has in mind as running the app and you know that, too
17:41.25Sho_stop wasting people's time with smartassing :)
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17:42.50Lace57Digital-Lemon: open terminal switch user with su to the one you want, and run dolphin from terminal
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17:43.24Digital-Lemonwhy didnt i think of that oO
17:43.25Digital-Lemonthanks.
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17:48.18liznevadaguys on #fedora dont like the Hell Computers joke..
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17:48.49dyrverewhat's wrong with Hell Computers?
17:49.29liznevadai got two warns for offensive language, just for using Hell instead of Dell
17:49.35Sho_i'm not sure if the guys on #fedora like anything
17:49.44Sho_it's one of the most hostile channels i've seen on freenode
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17:49.51Sho_thankfully #fedora-kde is lovely
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17:50.04liznevadanods at Sho_
17:50.46Digital-LemonLace57, dolphin: cannot connect to X server :0
17:51.47liznevadais the domains of satan really an offensive work on english?
17:52.03Sho_hell yes
17:52.05Sho_SCNR
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18:00.55BluesKajyeah , I recall the fedora chat was rather hostile , lots of RTFM!s
18:01.01dyrvereNow that's worth a watch.
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19:08.43Ticho_hm, when i log in to KDE, something causes a several seconds long delay, where the generic run icon (cogwheel) bounces next to the cursor
19:08.53Ticho_is there a way to find out what process is that?
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19:49.53yatesi'm really beginning to like kmail but there's one thing i see missing
19:50.14yatesinbox does not seem to support "push delivery" in imap mode.
19:50.23yatesrather, push reception.
19:50.37yatesthat is, you have to poll the server to get new messages.
19:50.53yatesmy other imap clients get new messages instantly and without polling
19:51.09yatesapparently there's some so rt of mechanism in the imap protocol to allow that
19:51.29yatesor have is there a configuration for this i've missed in kmail?
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19:55.24yates?
19:56.12muep_have you seen it mentioned somewhere that that imap feature would be supported?
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19:56.43liznevadai think kmail only support push on pop
19:56.46yatesthunderbird supports it
19:57.43yatesmuep_: ^^^^
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19:58.14muep_have you seen it mentioned somewhere that that imap feature would be supported in kmail?
19:58.44yatesno. why is the question relevent? if it's a common and useful feature, why wouldn't it naturally be implemented?
19:59.18muep_it is still a feature whose implementation would take work
19:59.36toskyyates: you mean this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push-IMAP
19:59.39muep_I am not very familiat with imap details but I would suspect that such a feature is optional in it
19:59.52yatesif you knew the feature is not implemented, why wouldn't you just state so?
20:00.13toskyyates: afaik it's available for kdepim >=4.6 (the versions built upon akonadi)
20:00.26muep_I have no idea if it is implemented in kmail. I just asked if you have heard someone having it working in kmail
20:00.45yatesmuep_: oh, i see.
20:00.52yatesno i hadn't.
20:01.17muep_I agree that such a feature would be very useful in an IMAP client
20:02.19yatestosky: thanks much for the link and info
20:02.37toskyyates: also http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=85157
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20:03.00yatestosky: how do i find the version of my kdepim?
20:03.40toskyyates: the usual way: help->about <program name>
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20:04.17yatestosky: but i don't have a program named kdepim; i have kmail and korganizer.
20:04.26yatesat least not that i know of
20:04.49yatesmy kmail version is 1.13.6, if that helps
20:05.00yateskde version is 4.6.5, i think
20:05.14toskyyates: kdepim is the global name of the module which includes kmail, korganizer, kaddressbook, knode, etc
20:05.27toskyyates: distribution/release?
20:05.33yatesopensuse 11.4
20:06.02yatesi'm doing a zypper info kde now
20:06.08toskyup to 1.13.7 is still kmail1, which does not use akonadi
20:06.38toskythere were some instability problem, or better some problem with importing the old settings and emails with the first releases of the new version of kmail
20:06.44yatesi see - it is upgrade time then.
20:07.15yateskmail is looking good, though, and i really like that it and korganizer allow you to receive meeting invitations from outlook. good work!
20:07.19toskythe last version (included with KDE SC 4.8.x ) is more stable
20:07.46tosky(4.8.3 was tagged two days ago, in a week you should see the packages in some unstable opensuse channel, better ask on some IRC opensuse/kde channel, if any)
20:07.58yatesok, i'll upgrade soon. i'm thinking of switching to fedora 17 - that kde would have all these latest kde components, would it not?
20:08.30yatesi'm not even sure f17 is out of beta yet, but soon - maybe a coupel of weeks.
20:09.05liznevadaFedora 17 release date is scheduled for 2012-05-22 14:00, which is in 3 weeks, 1 day, 17 hours, 51 minutes, and 3 seconds
20:09.12yateswhat is "SC" in "KDE SC"?
20:09.21yatesliznevada: ok Spock!
20:09.36liznevadahe he...nah
20:09.47toskyyates: Software Compilation - the core set of packages, the things which was once called "the KDE Desktop"
20:09.55liznevadayou can call the bot to to dat
20:10.04liznevada<PROTECTED>
20:10.08yatesah. well thanks for the education and information, people.
20:10.19yatesliznevada: i see - that was a complement anyway!
20:10.22yatesbye
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20:24.54spartan31Hallo people!
20:25.05spartan31Can anyone tell me how to set digital clock plasmoid font size independetly from panel height???
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20:43.28dyrverespartan31: Who said you can do that?
20:44.56spartan31No one so i ask, because i like digital clock and i don't want adjustable digital clock, but only the clock size bigger.
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20:48.07dyrverespartan31: Only thing I can do is change font and set it as bold or italic.. In old KDE you might need to unlock panels and plasmoids.
20:49.21spartan31i know this
20:50.36dyrverespartan31: Then, you might want to do some coding if that isn't enough?
20:50.51spartan31dyrvere: as i sayed i know that i can't, i asked to know if there is a workaround way as a configuration file edit
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20:52.06spartan31dyrvere: do some coding? as adding the option modify font size to digital clock settings?... yes i could try
20:52.31spartan31dyrvere, but i don't know what modify.
20:54.17dyrvereHm, it sure looks like one can edit the font size. ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc search for clock.
20:54.41dyrvereplainClockFont=Tuffy,17,-1,5,75,0,0,0,0,0
20:55.17dyrverespartan31: might be ~/.kde/share/etcetc for some installations.
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20:58.08spartan31dyrvere, done but found nothing
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21:04.46sythehttp://i.imgur.com/T16VY.png
21:04.47sythegiggles
21:04.55sytheReal physical memory.
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21:07.03dyrverespartan31: So no plainClockFont?
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21:14.31spartan31dyrvere, the fact is that i found something about this in a configuration file but modifing that value doesn't affect the clock size.
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21:17.01spartan31dyrvere: more specific is this: plainClockFont=Ubuntu,12,-1,5,75,0,0,0,0,0 in file .kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc
21:17.40spartan31but i don't know how to modify and what
21:18.09_kdepepothe font size is computed from available space, not read from a config file.
21:19.03dyrvereYeah, looking at the code, it sets size of font depending on the rectangle size.
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21:29.16dyrveresythe: That's not little memory you use with focus booster. :p
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21:30.27sytheI only have 3 gb of RAM
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21:32.28dyrvereseems it doubled, yey magic!
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