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00:00.30 | nolimitsoyalap | id like an application launcher item that simply runs ssh -YC myhost myapp. how do i create one? do i write a .desktop file, what is that and where does it go? |
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00:03.18 | juanmabc | locate .desktop; pick one copy to your home; edit; the Exec is pretty clear; text format; |
00:04.40 | nolimitsoyalap | but where do i put it to have it show up in my k menu? |
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00:07.27 | khonkhortisan | that's different |
00:07.58 | khonkhortisan | right click the menu, click Edit Applications... |
00:08.22 | khonkhortisan | go to the submenu you want it in, click New Item, and put in the Name and Command |
00:08.56 | khonkhortisan | .desktop is for actually on the desktop |
00:10.27 | nolimitsoyalap | ah, cheer! |
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01:09.07 | khonkhortisan | Belial`: I always set it to Ctrl-Shift-Arrow, but that's not the default |
01:10.29 | Belial` | khonkhortisan: i actually found it about 5 minutes ago and set it to the same thing as you. |
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01:13.41 | NJL | anybody know how to get thunderbird working with the message-indicator widget? |
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01:19.19 | khonkhortisan | okay, I just found it again |
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01:19.25 | khonkhortisan | took me a while |
01:19.40 | juanmabc | how does gestures work? |
01:19.51 | juanmabc | it's click gesture click |
01:19.58 | khonkhortisan | oops I mean Alt-Shift-Arrow |
01:20.07 | juanmabc | but click what? left, not, right, not, alt, not ??? |
01:20.08 | khonkhortisan | my hand knows what it is but I don't |
01:20.34 | khonkhortisan | gestures in what? |
01:20.39 | juanmabc | konqueror for instance |
01:20.46 | juanmabc | system settings haves a gestures module |
01:20.48 | juanmabc | mouse ones |
01:21.09 | juanmabc | like click up click, open a tab |
01:21.17 | juanmabc | no idea what to click |
01:21.26 | juanmabc | nothing does |
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01:22.35 | khonkhortisan | alt+leftarrow worksforme, but I don't know how to do the gestures |
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01:23.00 | khonkhortisan | I can do gestures with a firefox addon, but not with konqueror |
01:23.36 | juanmabc | they have to be enabled first |
01:23.46 | juanmabc | then ... know how to fire them |
01:25.05 | khonkhortisan | I like the "hello" shortcut example |
01:25.35 | khonkhortisan | so it doesn't look like there's any settings in konqueror itself to enable gestures |
01:26.38 | juanmabc | nope, system settings |
01:27.14 | juanmabc | Common Appearance and Behaviour: "Shortcuts & Gestures" |
01:27.22 | khonkhortisan | yes I'm there |
01:27.42 | juanmabc | here i have "Konqueror Gestures" |
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01:30.46 | khonkhortisan | did you click settings and the gestures checkbox? |
01:31.23 | khonkhortisan | I got it to work, with either middle or right |
01:32.00 | juanmabc | they are checked |
01:32.24 | juanmabc | wait, it says: mouse button: 2 |
01:32.26 | juanmabc | ... |
01:32.27 | juanmabc | :p |
01:32.31 | khonkhortisan | 3 is right |
01:33.22 | juanmabc | yep, now does work |
01:33.42 | khonkhortisan | now, do you know how to get the extra mouse buttons to go back/forward like in firefox? |
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01:38.57 | juanmabc | i could guess shortcuts, but does not play mouse |
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04:06.16 | Dan39 | is there any reason someone in KDE would remove files from my user home directory when /home partition reaches 100%? |
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04:06.20 | Dan39 | something* |
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04:27.32 | Dan39 | nevermind |
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05:08.57 | gutzmek | need assistance with kde :/ |
05:09.11 | gutzmek | desktop env |
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05:24.39 | divyam | Hi all, Can someone please tell me how can I get to code for Seasone of KDE? |
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07:08.29 | vyrgozunqk | guys good morning |
07:09.21 | vyrgozunqk | do you have any idea why kmail is not downloading all my emails but instead only the ones from the last 3 days... |
07:10.11 | vyrgozunqk | tha last time i reinstalled it download 362 mails from all my 10 000 and now its downloading only from the last 3 days... this is ba :/ |
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07:59.31 | geekback | hello ppl |
07:59.52 | geekback | i have a question.. which o.s has the best implementation of kde? |
08:00.03 | geekback | its definitely not kubuntu |
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09:04.06 | AElfwine | hello |
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09:04.54 | AElfwine | is there a way to set the workgroup to bowse samba shares in kde? in system settings/share we can only set user and passwd |
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09:14.52 | tulcod | my screen is switched off after 30 seconds (!), but i'm on AC+battery |
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09:17.17 | cb400f | the panel? ... happens to me sometimes too... 2x alt+shift+f12 fixes it |
09:17.53 | siganderson | cb400f, yes I noticed that works for me too |
09:18.40 | cb400f | intel gfx? |
09:19.13 | siganderson | cb400f, no, ati radeon 5670... and this happens also with an nvdia gt 220 |
09:19.37 | cb400f | hm |
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10:32.44 | Z_God | is it a known problem that KDE4 KIO cannot connect to link local addresses? |
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10:33.43 | Z_God | fish://[fe80::21e:ecff:fe5d:679e%eth0]/ works in konqueror from trinity but in dolphin in kde4 I get "Invalid Protocol" |
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10:33.54 | Z_God | I can connect to non-link local addresses |
10:36.19 | yadin | help |
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10:40.14 | thiago | Z_God: that address is not representable, unfortunately |
10:40.23 | thiago | Z_God: the % character is not permitted in that position |
10:40.46 | Z_God | thiago: why not? it's the standard notation for link local addresses |
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10:41.38 | thiago | Z_God: I know, but unfortunately the standard notation conflicts with the definition of URLs |
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10:41.57 | thiago | the % character must always be followed by two hex characters |
10:42.12 | Z_God | thiago: so is there an alternative notation to access link local addresses on KDE4? |
10:42.22 | thiago | and even if you had written %25 there, the definition doesn't allow for the scope ID anywhere |
10:42.25 | thiago | sorry, no |
10:42.42 | thiago | the link-local notation is impossible under URL rules |
10:43.15 | Z_God | but then I would suggest using an alternative notation? |
10:43.22 | thiago | there isn't one |
10:43.23 | thiago | sorry |
10:43.34 | Z_God | accessing local systems is kind of an important feature I think :) |
10:43.39 | thiago | indeed |
10:43.47 | thiago | but you can't change the basic rules of the internet for that |
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10:44.23 | Z_God | but do you think I could report a bug with KDE somewhere also on this? |
10:44.37 | Z_God | it worked fine in KDE3, so I would expect it to stay working |
10:44.50 | thiago | no |
10:44.53 | thiago | it won't do any good |
10:44.57 | thiago | in KDE 4, it's *impossible* |
10:44.58 | Z_God | where should this be reported? |
10:45.04 | thiago | nowhere |
10:45.17 | thiago | you could file a suggestion for Qt 5, so I may look into this for later |
10:45.23 | thiago | Qt 5, KDE 5 |
10:45.26 | thiago | it can't be done in 4 |
10:45.34 | Z_God | where can I do that? |
10:45.42 | thiago | bugreports.qt-project.org |
10:45.49 | thiago | file under Qt, Core: I/O |
10:45.55 | Z_God | alright, thanks a lot! |
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10:46.51 | Z_God | I'm instructing someone now who happens to have KDE3 on one system and KDE4 on the other, in this case everything will work out, but it'll be problematic at some point |
10:47.06 | thiago | the URL class in KDE 3 was completely different |
10:47.11 | thiago | and wholly non-conformant |
10:47.22 | thiago | in KDE 4, it's the Qt 4 class: QUrl. It's a lot stricter. |
10:47.36 | Z_God | I see yep, then it will be difficult |
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10:47.56 | thiago | I've rewritten that class in Qt 5 |
10:48.03 | Z_God | do you also happen to know much about submitting patches to plama btw? |
10:48.13 | thiago | I didn't bother with the link-local address, but it might be possible to implement it later |
10:48.14 | Z_God | I have a custom hack here now that I'd like to see upstream |
10:48.18 | thiago | no, nothing about it |
10:48.53 | Z_God | ok, I guess I should mail about it at some point when I have a clean patch ready |
10:48.54 | AElfwine | does anyone know if there is a way to configure the default Workgroup for browsing samba share in kde, other than creating /etc/samba/smb.conf ? |
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10:49.06 | Aristide | Hi ! |
10:49.18 | Aristide | Its possible to add custome graphics in Ksysguard ? Exemple : Battery consumption in watts |
10:49.28 | Aristide | (I use KDE 4.8.2) |
10:49.40 | thiago | Aristide: you can't add a new measurement |
10:49.47 | thiago | not without editing code |
10:49.54 | Aristide | :/ |
10:53.19 | juanbobo | anyone else have the bug with the taskbar incorrectly highlighting tasks? |
10:53.41 | juanbobo | if its a bug |
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10:58.42 | fasta | Some CPU monitor KDE applet says my CPU runs at 2100MHz, instead of of at 3+GHz. Does KDE interfere with that? |
10:58.46 | rdieter | juanbobo: this, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275835 , perhaps? |
10:58.50 | fasta | If so, where? |
11:00.09 | juanbobo | rdieter: yes, thank you, i believe that is the bug, it is pretty irritating, im surprised nobody else seems to be bothered by it |
11:00.40 | rdieter | juanbobo: not exactly nobody, but I've never been able to reproduce it personally |
11:00.54 | juanbobo | rdieter: i see, which distro are you using? |
11:00.56 | juanbobo | and version? |
11:01.04 | juanbobo | i am using gentoo, 4.8.1 |
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11:01.43 | rdieter | juanbobo: currently using kde-4.8.2 on both fedora 16 and 17 |
11:01.55 | juanbobo | rdieter: ok thanks |
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11:04.43 | Z_God | thiago: the issue is here: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-25550 |
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11:10.40 | Aristide | thiago: Add a feature in ksysguard for allow to add graphics from files or commands (from a number, and configure maximum, minimum, x and y cordinates) can be very usefull ^^ |
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11:34.04 | BluesKaj | Hey all |
11:37.22 | juanbobo | hello |
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12:32.31 | Z_God | thiago: great, thanks :) |
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13:31.53 | PasNox | anyone know how i change the default download directory for kio magnets download ? |
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13:33.31 | BluesKaj | PasNox, depends on the the download method |
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13:35.46 | BluesKaj | bowser or http downloads usually default to ~/downloads as do some torrent clients and wget |
13:36.07 | BluesKaj | ~/Downloads |
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13:55.21 | GuySoft | hey all, is there a way to open konsole with -e, and not have it terminate when the commend finishes? |
13:56.03 | Adaptee | GuySoft: --hold |
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13:58.23 | GuySoft | Adaptee, thanks :) |
13:59.09 | GuySoft | Adaptee, is there a way to get it to return to bash? |
13:59.25 | GuySoft | or any shell.. |
14:00.48 | ironfroggy | GuySoft: you are assuming it ever started a shell in the first place |
14:01.01 | ironfroggy | but -e probably does the command you specify _instead of_ the shell |
14:01.17 | GuySoft | ironfroggy, ok ill try getting the script change |
14:01.21 | GuySoft | changed |
14:01.32 | ironfroggy | or |
14:01.48 | Sho_ | GuySoft: well so launch a shell and have it run the command |
14:01.53 | Sho_ | konsole -e "bash -c foo" |
14:06.03 | GuySoft | Sho_, I was just trying bash -e bash :) so that should do it |
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14:13.35 | GuySoft | ok, next question . i want to open konsole -e, and then open another tab, using --newtab would only open a tab in the previous konsole |
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14:15.20 | GuySoft | konsole -e bash -c "konsole --newtab -e 'bash -c top'" |
14:15.27 | GuySoft | this does not work |
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14:29.13 | DaZ | --new-tab <: |
14:31.17 | GuySoft | ok, but wouldn't it be better to move to dbus? |
14:31.53 | GuySoft | also, newtab does not help there |
14:32.08 | DaZ | yup. |
14:33.55 | GuySoft | Daz, i can't seem to get dbbus to do anything |
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14:34.27 | GuySoft | I tried qdbus org.kde.konsole /Konsole org.kde.konsole.Konsole.newSession |
14:34.35 | GuySoft | it just prints a numbe |
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14:38.30 | annma | GuySoft: when I try this in a Konsole tab, it opens a new tab |
14:39.15 | GuySoft | annma, ah! just found the missing tabs! |
14:39.23 | GuySoft | they were in a window on a diffrent workspace |
14:39.36 | annma | OK |
14:40.10 | GuySoft | but I am not sure why it opened it on a diffrent window |
14:40.14 | GuySoft | i mean an existing one |
14:41.01 | GuySoft | yes, it opens a tab on the last opened konsole, |
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15:01.45 | fasta | Why does the kdebuild when there is no source update take more than 0.001 second to 'build and install' an old module? |
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15:02.58 | fasta | It should cache what it has built and use that to avoid recomputation. A properly written system would require just reading one byte from the file system. |
15:03.02 | Sho_ | fasta: Because it's not the only thing the build system needs to check for changes |
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15:03.15 | fasta | Sho_: like what? |
15:03.16 | Sho_ | You could have changed the source code yourself, or your system headers could have changed, and so on |
15:03.29 | fasta | Sho_: ok, fair point. |
15:03.52 | fasta | Even then, it could assume that if it is not in git, it doesn't exist. |
15:04.07 | Sho_ | I don't follow, sorry |
15:04.08 | fasta | Checking for changes in git is faster then doing it the way they currently do it. |
15:04.15 | thiago | are you talking about kdesrc-build or about cmake? |
15:04.22 | fasta | thiago: kdesrc-build |
15:04.41 | thiago | kdesrc-build, if there are no changes in git, will simply issue a make install |
15:04.53 | thiago | it doesn't know if you had installed previously. Or if you have removed or changed the installed files. |
15:05.02 | thiago | all of that needs to be checked. |
15:05.11 | thiago | plus, the internal files need to be rechecked again. |
15:05.25 | fasta | thiago: so, it could use a lot of improvement? |
15:05.29 | thiago | no |
15:05.33 | thiago | it's exactly like it should be |
15:05.59 | fasta | Ok, I see your point. |
15:06.00 | thiago | make doesn't track "exact file" |
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15:06.13 | fasta | I probably just want an extra flag. |
15:06.15 | thiago | so there's no way to express that. the only thing it can do is try to install again. |
15:06.15 | Sho_ | fasta: You're the "rly" guy from a few days ago, right? |
15:06.24 | fasta | Sho_: who? |
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15:07.00 | Sho_ | Someone named "rly" was here a few days ago who was also starting out with kdesrc-build and had, let's say, a similar outook on life |
15:07.31 | Sho_ | so I was curious :-) |
15:07.34 | fasta | Great, the more people who think not everything is perfect, the better. |
15:08.32 | thiago | to make it better, we'd have to get rid of make |
15:08.36 | thiago | and no one wants to do that |
15:08.41 | fasta | thiago: and get rid of C++? |
15:08.46 | Sho_ | thiago: I think the next version of CMake can generate makefiles for http://martine.github.com/ninja/manual.html |
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15:09.02 | thiago | fasta: if we didn't have compiled sources, installing would be easier, indeed. |
15:09.12 | thiago | fasta: but getting rid of C++ wouldn't make the overall picture better. |
15:09.26 | fasta | thiago: yes, C++ still has benefits too. |
15:09.32 | fasta | Like speeeeed. |
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15:09.54 | fasta | Although I can imagine that most of the code runs in Qt already. |
15:09.59 | thiago | the most important benefit C++ has for KDE is that KDE is *already* written in C++ |
15:10.07 | thiago | to ditch C++, we'd have to start from scratch |
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15:10.46 | fasta | Aren't you using cmake for everything? |
15:11.19 | fasta | (you said 'get rid of make') |
15:11.24 | thiago | cmake produces Makefiles |
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15:11.44 | Sho_ | fasta: cmake generates makefiles, which are then fed as input into make |
15:11.47 | fasta | thiago: what alternative are you thinking of? |
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15:11.57 | fasta | CMake has multiple backendds. |
15:12.01 | thiago | fasta: I don't think there are alternatives today |
15:12.08 | fasta | I know of one. |
15:12.13 | thiago | SCons used to be such a system, but I don't consider it an alternative |
15:12.16 | fasta | It tracks dependencies a bit better. |
15:12.19 | thiago | qbs isn't an alternative yet. It's unfinished. |
15:12.32 | Sho_ | I think ninja is potentially interesting as a make replacement |
15:12.56 | muep_ | in my experience the makefiles produced by cmake track dependencies relatively well |
15:12.57 | fasta | <PROTECTED> |
15:13.10 | fasta | This is an actual improvement over Make. |
15:13.17 | fasta | Not earth shattering. |
15:13.20 | Sho_ | fasta: And btw, I guess you're looking for the "build-when-unchanged" option in kdesrc-build |
15:13.21 | fasta | But better. |
15:13.48 | fasta | thiago: do you do Shake? I don't know ninja. |
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15:14.01 | thiago | fasta: I've never heard of either. |
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15:14.56 | Sho_ | AFAIK, ninja was written by the Google Chrome people mostly to speed up the code-compile-test cycle, with the main goal being to reduce the latency until an invocation of make actually starts doing anything |
15:15.23 | Sho_ | i.e. t's main goal is fast incremental builds |
15:15.32 | Sho_ | which is incidentally what this discussion was about |
15:15.34 | fasta | Then Shake is something different. |
15:15.51 | fasta | I can imagine that Shake isn't the best solution for KDE. |
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15:16.03 | Sho_ | so, once CMake starts producing Makefiles in ninja format, we can use CMake with ninja |
15:16.07 | fasta | One reason would be that it doesn't have a lot of existing users, like cmake had. |
15:16.10 | Sho_ | and find out if it's really better :-) |
15:16.14 | fasta | Sho_: it already does that. |
15:16.26 | Sho_ | yeah, it's possible, I don't know what version it got merged |
15:16.41 | fasta | <PROTECTED> |
15:16.41 | Sho_ | ah, 2.8.8+ |
15:16.49 | fasta | Ah, so I did know about it. :) |
15:16.49 | Sho_ | "For building Blender, one user reported "Single file rebuild is 0.97 sec, same on makefiles was 3.7sec." " |
15:16.54 | Sho_ | (Blender uses CMake) |
15:17.25 | Sho_ | 2.8.8 was released April 19th, so pretty recent all in all |
15:17.27 | fasta | From an architecture point, CMake is quite a good decision. |
15:17.51 | fasta | It slows builds by only a tiny, tiny fraction, but people can port the CMake language. |
15:18.23 | Sho_ | We evaluated several different build systems at the start of the KDE 4 cycle, and for a moment it almost looked like bksys was going to be it |
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15:18.46 | Sho_ | But ultimately CMake came together best, had the best people behind it, and there was a very productive relationship with upstream |
15:18.51 | fasta | Sho_: how did you evaluate it? Did you actually experiment with it or just from documentation? |
15:18.59 | Sho_ | fasta: We experimented with them |
15:19.16 | Sho_ | I.e. there were attempts to build kdelibs and other things with the respective buildsystems |
15:19.27 | Sho_ | I suppose the results are still sitting around in SVN somewhere |
15:19.45 | Sho_ | and of course all the discussion will be in the kde-buildsystem and kde-core-devel mailinglist archives |
15:19.58 | fasta | Yeah, I read the aftermath. |
15:20.14 | Sho_ | hehe, fun historical artifact: http://dot.kde.org/2005/09/11/kde-migrate-bksysscons-build-system |
15:20.18 | fasta | I think many people interested in build systems did. |
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15:22.13 | Sho_ | and also http://lwn.net/Articles/188693/ |
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15:24.13 | GuySoft | hey all, question - when calling konsole with dbus. how can i decide which konsole process to call? I have a few running |
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15:24.40 | Sho_ | GuySoft: they should register on the bus as org.kde.konsole-<pid> |
15:25.13 | fasta | Shouldn't dbus also be an integrated system which is always there for every API call? |
15:25.28 | Sho_ | ... huh? |
15:25.34 | fasta | I noticed that lots of features are not available via dbus. |
15:25.43 | GuySoft | Sho_, ok, and if i open one , is there a way to get its pid? |
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15:25.53 | fasta | Or perhaps the application uses things which don't have an API call, which is also possible. |
15:26.53 | Sho_ | GuySoft: well, i guess you could find your way from the pid of the shell to the pid of the parent process .. |
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15:27.40 | GuySoft | Sho_, yes i guess so, was looking for something more elegant |
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15:29.34 | Adaptee | GuySoft: if you are in konsole, you can use `qdbus $KONSOLE_DBUS_SERVICE ....` |
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15:31.03 | Sho_ | fasta: As a rough overview, KDE applications usually start with an instance of a C++ class called KApplication that is in kdelibs, and which registers itself on D-Bus by default and exposes a bunch of properties and method calls. D-Bus is also the way by which things like, say, the global color scheme changing are transmitted to KDE apps. Then beyond what KApplication does many applications decide to expose further interfaces on their own, for example a media player may |
15:31.04 | Sho_ | chose to implement the MPRIS2 specification. There are a bunch of ways to do this via Qt's D-Bus support APIs, from simply marking up methods with special keywords in headers to generating adapter classes from XML interface definitions and writing the code backing those interfaces separately. |
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15:31.31 | Sho_ | Adaptee: right, I forgot about that :) |
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15:32.27 | fasta | Sho_: yes, but now there are those that are exported and those that are not. It would be nice if every button in a GUI would correspond to something which could be scripted. |
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15:33.11 | Sho_ | fasta: I'd say things don't really map that directly, a good GUI doesn't make a good D-Bus interface and vice-versa, both require care of their own |
15:33.35 | fasta | Sho_: one could drag a button and obtain some unique id. |
15:33.44 | Sho_ | For example the D-Bus interface has to handle enabling introspection of data the user can just *see* in the GUI quite differently |
15:34.08 | fasta | Sho_: but I can sort of imagine that it would create a backwards compatibility nightmare. |
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15:34.47 | Sho_ | fasta: You'd like the new Blender GUI :) If you hover UI elements in it you get a tooltip with the corresponding Python scripting API call where appropriate |
15:35.03 | fasta | Sho_: if it can be turned off, then yes. |
15:35.18 | Sho_ | Don't know, but it's not really very intrusive |
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15:36.36 | Sho_ | fasta: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-mj1225 |
15:37.29 | fasta | Sho_: if I were a graphics designer, I wouldn't want to see it by default. |
15:37.40 | fasta | Sho_: but it's a good development regardless. |
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15:40.00 | Sho_ | fasta: Depends, the people using this kind of application are often quite technical and scripting is done quite frequently. In the case of Blender it's also related to user interface customization: The UI layer is written in Python and the code backing it can be modified by the user, so if you want to e.g. create your own dockers with your custom arrangement of buttons and associated behavior, you do that via Python, and being exposed to the API hammers using it home in |
15:40.01 | Sho_ | a way. I assume that's why they're shown by default, too, to encourage their use. |
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16:53.50 | solifugus | It's not double-clicking and there is no obvious play button.. |
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16:54.42 | solifugus | oh wait.. never mind.. I don't have any speakers.. |
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17:05.06 | graense | Sorry for the basic question, but I can't find an answer anywhere on the internet. Is it possible to rearrange activities, and if so, how? |
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17:14.41 | dyrvere | graense: I don't think so, changing the order in ~/.kde4/share/config/activitymanagerrc does not do much. |
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17:29.55 | rindolf | Hi all. |
17:30.10 | rindolf | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299186 - wow! We are fast approaching bug No. 300,000. |
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17:31.15 | Phr33d0m | yeah WOW, and after that there will be 400.000 and woah guess what? :P after that there will be 500.000 and 600.000, it's magic man! :P |
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18:18.21 | dyrvere | solifugus: If you use Pulseaudio you don't need speakers on that PC if you got speakers on another computer :D One case I would recommend PA actually. Hehe |
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18:27.49 | liznevada | is there a way to get the About KDE4 standalone? without have to open a KDE App? |
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18:28.01 | thiago | liznevada: no |
18:28.16 | liznevada | darn |
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18:28.42 | thiago | why do you want to see that dialog without running an application? |
18:28.50 | liznevada | showcase |
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19:13.14 | PasNox | Hi |
19:13.25 | PasNox | i'm on kde sc 4.8.2 on kubuntu precise 64bits |
19:13.35 | PasNox | i look for alternative to start menu |
19:13.52 | PasNox | kick off and lancelot are being too bad and buggy |
19:13.58 | PasNox | any other alternative ? |
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19:20.13 | dyrvere | PasNox: What feature do you need in the start-menu? |
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19:20.55 | dyrvere | if needing just a means to start programs, you could switch kickoff to the classical menustyle. |
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19:24.14 | dyrvere | PasNox: Or this? http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/AppMenu+QML?content=146098 |
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19:29.14 | dyrvere | And who needs a start menu when you've got Icon Tasks? :D |
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20:18.24 | rvalles | Hi. All of a sudden (not sure what I updated) I get the "run" dialog to popup without intending to again and again. I've realized that if I click the desktop then press any key, I get the "run" dialog. How do I disable this? |
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20:19.53 | juanmabc | updates? relog/reboot? |
20:20.38 | rvalles | Gentoo. kde at 4.8.2. Did reboot recently. |
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20:20.58 | kdepepo | what do you expect to happen when pressing a key on the desktop |
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20:23.01 | rvalles | nothing at all. |
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20:39.05 | dyrvere | rvalles: Not sure what you did man! Run dialog = the krunner or what? Check if a key is stuck first of all. |
20:39.32 | dyrvere | Superkey? |
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20:50.28 | rvalles | no keys stuck, no |
20:50.52 | rvalles | and the "run dialog" -> what is usually invoked by alt-f2 |
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20:51.19 | Phr33d0m | krunner |
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20:54.59 | juanmabc | krunner has a tool icon for config so |
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21:15.27 | rvalles | juanmabc: so? |
21:16.04 | juanmabc | so seeing the stuff it got, perhaps there is a desktop keys plugin to disable |
21:16.13 | juanmabc | if that is really bothering, which is not for me |
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21:16.37 | rvalles | no such luck, no |
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21:36.56 | dyrvere | rvalles: I can invoke krunner by superkey+any other key = input that other key into krunner as well. :p |
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21:38.02 | dyrvere | unbound letter-key that is. |
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21:59.45 | ZetaRC121 | Plasma Netbook on Mint12, where the hell is the option to disable tapclick? Input Devices only covers KB, mouse and game controllers, nothing about touchpads |
22:01.19 | juanmabc | there should be a touchpad section |
22:01.26 | juanmabc | if xorg.conf enabled |
22:01.54 | juanmabc | i just discovered a corner touchpad scroller ! |
22:02.57 | thiago | it's in synaptiks |
22:02.59 | ZetaRC121 | I wanna know who thought tapclick was a good idea, he needs to be punched in the face, allot |
22:03.05 | thiago | make sure you have it installed |
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22:03.21 | thiago | tap-to-click? |
22:03.32 | thiago | it's a wonderful idea. That's how I click. |
22:03.51 | thiago | touchpads have been doing that for years |
22:04.37 | juanmabc | i even had to modify xorg.conf snippet to add it |
22:04.52 | ZetaRC121 | thiago yeah, but they click or miss click everything |
22:04.52 | juanmabc | so it works even on kdm |
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22:05.18 | juanmabc | yeah, some understanding is needed |
22:05.22 | juanmabc | touchpad course, |
22:05.37 | juanmabc | don't tap to move, it clicks |
22:05.51 | juanmabc | my mother does that too |
22:06.23 | ZetaRC121 | or as you're typing it randomly clicks things or if you are trying to drag and drop a file it misses |
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22:57.43 | UberPinguin | Can Activities be used to store display configuration? For example, at work I have a dualhead setup. When I'm not at work, I use only the laptops LVDS panel. I'd rather not go through the manual display reconfiguration every time I dock. |
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22:58.09 | Phr33d0m | UberPinguin I'm not sure but I think it doesn't, you can test it though |
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22:59.03 | UberPinguin | I haven't had much luck so far, was hoping it was an option I'd overlooked. Is there another known way to get KDE to toggle display configurations in an automated fashion? |
22:59.16 | UberPinguin | I'm on 4.8.2, fwiw |
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23:00.24 | kdepepo | check the sources, and add it there, if it isn't already :) |
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23:01.08 | Phr33d0m | or post it as a feature request in the kde bug tracker |
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23:14.19 | DorkVader | yo, my kwin has crashed... I have no klicker menu, panel, or desktop, can't right click on the desktop. Is there a way I can logout to KDM? |
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23:56.13 | dyrvere | open global key settings through krunner, use it a little and click around, scroll etc. then without making changes close it, does it crash? |
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23:57.22 | dyrvere | I switch apps and scroll through them all before I quit the app. |
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