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| 07:47.01 | tdn | I have a Kubuntu VM in virtualbox. It has suddenly stopped automatically adjusting the screen resolution when I resize the VM window. I have vboxadditions installed. How do I fix this? Is this a problem that should be addressed in vbox or in KDE? |
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| 07:49.27 | rdale | tdn: i don't think that can be a kde problem. maybe you've upgraded virtualbox or your linux kernel and need to rebuild guest additions? |
| 07:50.17 | tdn | rdale, I have tried rebuilding the guest additions. That did not help. |
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| 08:17.31 | fasta | Is it possible to use Activities to open 3 browser windows next to each other in a very specific position and in a certain state (after having pressed some buttons)? |
| 08:17.57 | fasta | I think the answer is 'no'. |
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| 10:43.56 | fasta | How do I compile kdepimlibs? The cmake . <details> step goes OK, but then it simply barfs. |
| 10:44.05 | fasta | I think it is simply broken. |
| 10:44.25 | fasta | (because otherwise it should have told me a problem at configure time) |
| 10:45.29 | fasta | Is there a build farm anywhere of which I can see its configuration to check how it's compiling things? |
| 10:46.05 | annma | fasta: please |
| 10:46.24 | annma | I don't see why kdepimlibs would be broken really |
| 10:46.39 | annma | so now pastebin the output of make VERBOSE=1 |
| 10:47.01 | annma | also: what kdepimlibs branch are you compiling? |
| 10:47.33 | annma | fasta: ^^ |
| 10:47.57 | fasta | annma: src/kde/kde/kdepimlibs/kcalcore/icalformat.cpp:601: undefined reference to `icalclassify |
| 10:48.10 | annma | fasta: please do as I told you |
| 10:48.16 | annma | also: what kdepimlibs branch are you compiling? |
| 10:48.19 | fasta | CMakeFiles/kcalcore.dir/icalformat.o: In function `KCalCore::ICalFormat::parseScheduleMessage(QSharedPointer<KCalCore::Calendar> const&, QString const&)': |
| 10:48.21 | annma | answer please |
| 10:48.24 | annma | no |
| 10:48.30 | annma | use pastebin |
| 10:48.40 | fasta | annma: uhm, I know what I am doing. |
| 10:48.46 | annma | no |
| 10:48.52 | fasta | annma: it's real simple; it wants to link to something which doesn't exist. |
| 10:48.57 | annma | yesterday you did not know what the latest Qt version was |
| 10:49.22 | fasta | annma: no, you got that all wrong. |
| 10:49.26 | annma | so if you want help please tell me what branch you're building |
| 10:49.32 | fasta | annma: the cmake file talks about ical version 0.42. |
| 10:49.35 | fasta | annma: I have 0.48. |
| 10:49.43 | annma | then please pastebin the output of 'make VERBOSE=1' |
| 10:49.46 | fasta | annma: so, _I_ think ical moved on. |
| 10:50.09 | fasta | annma: will you shut up next time with these stupid questions if I paste it now? |
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| 10:50.17 | fasta | annma: I hate being treated like an idiot. |
| 10:50.41 | annma | you're treated as such |
| 10:50.53 | annma | it's standard to ask this |
| 10:51.18 | annma | I hate treated like an idiot as well to be honest |
| 10:51.23 | annma | being |
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| 11:07.29 | fasta | annma: There is another issue with gpg too, but here is everything: http://paste.kde.org/474176/ |
| 11:08.04 | fasta | annma: sorry for the delay, but my paste application apparently was broken. |
| 11:09.42 | annma | what kdepimlibs branch is it? |
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| 11:10.01 | fasta | annma: likely master. It's what you get when you clone it. |
| 11:10.20 | annma | git branch will tell for sure |
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| 11:10.44 | fasta | annma: yes, master. |
| 11:11.19 | pinotree | you upgraded gpg/gpgme since the last kdepimlibs compilation? |
| 11:11.39 | fasta | pinotree: I don't think kdepimlibs has ever compiled, but I did upgrade it. |
| 11:11.59 | fasta | pinotree: i.e. upgrade gpg and gpgme. |
| 11:12.12 | pinotree | rm CMakeCache.txt in the top-level of the builddir, and rerun cmake as did before |
| 11:14.40 | annma | thanks pinotree |
| 11:15.49 | fasta | pinotree, annma: http://paste.kde.org/474182/ |
| 11:16.47 | pinotree | does it say anything about GPG_ERR_INV_PASSPHRASE in cmake's output? |
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| 11:17.49 | fasta | pinotree: no |
| 11:17.58 | fasta | pinotree: it couldn't be more successfull. |
| 11:18.07 | fasta | Congratulations! All external packages have been found. |
| 11:18.25 | fasta | -- Usable gpgme flavours found: vanilla pthread |
| 11:18.25 | fasta | -- Found Libical version 0.48 |
| 11:20.57 | fasta | pinotree: seems to be the same issue: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=43802 |
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| 11:21.23 | fasta | and this http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-pim&m=127062660730922 |
| 11:21.30 | fasta | In short, it hasn't worked for 3 years. |
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| 11:23.58 | annma | fasta: try deleting the CMakeCache.txt in the build dir and rerun cmake |
| 11:24.27 | pinotree | he did that already |
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| 11:25.33 | annma | ah OK sorry |
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| 12:28.12 | DrSlony | Hi, I have a "Convert to > JPEG" option when I right-click on an image in Krusader. I want to change the JPEG compression amount. Where do I do that? Which file or program is responsible for this action? |
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| 12:53.39 | andip | anyone know why citrix/ica-windows gets "exported" to your new screens/desktops (win-key+tab changing), unlike "normal" windows like browsers, terminals and such? bug with ica-client? |
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| 13:01.52 | andip | now, why i'm coming here thinking i might get an answer is beyond me now that i think about it. i stopped using irc because people were just idling anyway ;) the geeks fear of speaking has even invaded irc over the years |
| 13:01.56 | andip | hf |
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| 13:07.03 | MarkRS | Using KRDC (4.8.2) to connect to a Windoze m/c doesn't work here, it used to. I *can* connect using WIndoze stuff on a VM on the same Linux machine. What setting(s) do I need to change in KRDC? |
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| 13:15.37 | MarkRS | Anyone around? |
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| 13:19.59 | MarkRS | Heheh, lunchtime in multiple timezones, cool. |
| 13:20.19 | MarkRS | Anyone around know about KRDC |
| 13:20.21 | MarkRS | ? |
| 13:22.43 | rdieter_work | MarkRS: krdc uses rdesktop behind the scenes, do you have that installed? |
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| 13:23.07 | rdieter_work | if so, does using plain rdesktop work? |
| 13:23.17 | MarkRS | Errrm, lemme have a look |
| 13:23.26 | MarkRS | ("Hi", again, btw) |
| 13:24.12 | MarkRS | Yup, it's installed... |
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| 13:25.46 | rdieter_work | so, does: rdesktop <name_of_windows_machine> work? |
| 13:25.47 | MarkRS | Hmmm, yes, it does |
| 13:26.14 | rdieter_work | wierd then, no clue why krdc doesn't |
| 13:26.22 | DrSlony | Hi, I have a "Convert to > JPEG" option when I right-click on an image in Krusader. I want to change the JPEG compression amount. Where do I do that? Which file or program is responsible for this action? |
| 13:27.00 | MarkRS | rdieter_work: It mostly gives me... nothing... just the blue screen, sitting there forever. Occasionally I get "can't connect to server" |
| 13:28.00 | rdieter_work | DrSlony: imageconverter.desktop from konq-plugins, it basically just runs 'convert' from ImageMagick |
| 13:28.10 | DrSlony | thanks rdieter_work ! |
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| 13:28.18 | MarkRS | Ah well, at least I've got something that I can work with, rather than having to run XP that's good. But there doesn't seem to be anything to fiddle with to make a difference |
| 13:29.08 | rdieter_work | MarkRS: I assume you are using the 'rdp' protocol from krdc ? |
| 13:30.12 | MarkRS | Where would I see or set? |
| 13:30.26 | MarkRS | I've got it as a plugin |
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| 13:30.52 | rdieter_work | in my krdc window, theres a line saying: Connect to: <drop_down> <text_field> |
| 13:31.08 | rdieter_work | <drop_down> list contains 2 items: vnc, rdp |
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| 13:32.32 | rdieter_work | hint: unless you have some vnc server installed/configured on your windows box, you want to use rdp there. :) |
| 13:33.07 | MarkRS | Hmm yes, I hate being daft, I had it on vnc. Yup, that does it. |
| 13:33.09 | MarkRS | Grrr |
| 13:33.13 | MarkRS | Thanks |
| 13:33.38 | MarkRS | Not my (remote) machine, so I wonder if they've changed the config |
| 13:33.48 | MarkRS | Thank you very much, again. |
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| 13:34.06 | rdieter_work | no worries, glad we got you up and running |
| 13:34.14 | MarkRS | :) One day I'll read the whole screen |
| 13:34.17 | MarkRS | :( |
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| 13:51.55 | Rabenklaue | hi, after installing Kubuntu Precise 12.04 on my second notebook I've several problems with KDE desktop (which I do not have on a second machine which I upgraded from 12.04 beta): #1 http://pastebin.com/BVpYwLmW |
| 13:52.22 | Rabenklaue | Why there are plugins not loading correctly? I've activated OpenGL rendering. |
| 13:54.17 | Rabenklaue | #2 After a while using the desktop, I've problems using kde components (propably) relying on dbus. When opening kdevelop, dolphin, systemsettings or even opening the file dialog in opera (which uses kde backend) it takes several minutes until something opens. My last choise is executing kdeinit4 in a terminal, then it's running well for some time... |
| 13:55.13 | Rabenklaue | `ps | grep kded`: http://pastebin.com/FeEk1UQt |
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| 13:56.46 | Rabenklaue | I've read #2 often occurs using plasma applets not wokring correctly, but I only use the standard ones already included in default KDE/Kubuntu installation (those in the panel) like kmix or notifications. |
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| 14:03.39 | rdieter_work | Rabenklaue: desktop effects are 95% about video drivers, can't speak to your second item, but it may be related |
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| 14:05.46 | Rabenklaue | rdieter_work: I just have mentioned, that on this notebook Kubuntu 11.10 and the development releases for 12.04 (starting from mid January '12) ran well, but after doing a "clean" reinstallation of the "stable" version it got bogus. Weird. |
| 14:06.09 | Rabenklaue | rdieter_work: Thanks for the info relating the video drivers. I'll check that. |
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| 14:13.03 | CruX| | kow can I set "search & launch toolbar" to be in the top of windows ? |
| 14:13.39 | Rabenklaue | rdieter_work: Ok, after removing ~/.kde/share/config/kwin/kwinrc and reconfiguring it, now I got my wobbly windows. |
| 14:15.43 | Rabenklaue | And for #2: I just disabled all kde services (System Settings > Startup and Shutdown > Service Manager), except "power management" and "keyboard shortcuts". Maybe there's a service not working correctly on my machine. |
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| 14:30.36 | xcv_ | Hello everyone, I would like to know if I am the only one whose folder view doesn't allow him to drag files into subdirectories (overlay windows). When I hover them (while dragging) they disappear, if I do a fast move it is just dropped into the base folder (kde 4.8.3) |
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| 15:14.11 | NJL | oh, nm I'm a moron |
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| 15:38.30 | xcv_ | Hello, can somebody help me to register in indentity.kde.org? When I am asked to fill in my username and password after clicking the email link, the username combobox is empty! Thanks |
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| 17:09.19 | shevy | hmm. I suppose it is not possible to switch at run-time from fluxbox to KDE? |
| 17:09.31 | shevy | I think I was able to do this with gnome metacity once, never tried with KDE |
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| 17:14.04 | Guest74324 | shevy: hmm? |
| 17:14.15 | Guest74324 | do you mean from fluxbox ot kwin? |
| 17:14.17 | Guest74324 | to |
| 17:14.25 | shevy | yeah I think so |
| 17:14.45 | shevy | with metacity this works 'metacity --replace' |
| 17:15.27 | Guest74324 | kwin --replace will work as well |
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| 17:15.41 | Guest74324 | as far as I know that should work with all spec compatible window managers |
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| 17:19.58 | shevy | ok lemme try that |
| 17:20.11 | shevy | hmm |
| 17:20.13 | shevy | "kwin: it looks like there's already a window manager running. kwin not started." |
| 17:22.34 | shevy | hmm need to try sth, brb |
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| 19:04.48 | Timmy | where can i get the source code of bovo? |
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| 19:17.01 | BluesKaj | Timmy,not inyour source/packages? |
| 19:17.32 | Timmy | no, i am in chakra |
| 19:18.00 | Timmy | and also i only need bovo, not a package with all of the kde-games |
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| 19:18.44 | Guest74570 | Timmy: what are you trying to do? |
| 19:19.08 | Free_Bullets | I accidentally deleted all the columns in the system monitor window. Any ideas how I can get them back? |
| 19:19.37 | Timmy | i need the source code of this game for one of the projects of my school, need to know how five points works |
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| 19:20.29 | Guest74570 | well there is a set of shared libs for rulesets in KDE games |
| 19:20.36 | Guest74570 | so you may need the whole tree |
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| 19:23.24 | pinotree | Timmy: it's part of the kdegames sources |
| 19:24.19 | Guest74570 | https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/sdk/kde-ruleset/repository/revisions/21afaa48a8c508b378d866f63305fee2e1b48786/changes/kdegames/bovo-rules may be what you want |
| 19:24.42 | pinotree | Guest74570: no? |
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| 19:28.08 | Free_Bullets | Timmy: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdegames/bovo/ |
| 19:28.24 | Timmy | Free_Bullets: thank you |
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| 19:32.03 | daviddoria | I added a new panel to my desktop. Now I want to move it to my second monitor. In the past I have alt+left click dragged it, but now it is not moving. Any suggestions? |
| 19:32.32 | Guest74570 | pinotree: No :) |
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| 19:36.04 | Free_Bullets | daviddoria: Is it just a panel? Right click -> Unlock Widgets -> Right click -> Panel Options -> Panel Settings -> More Settings then drag with the screen edge button |
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| 19:37.30 | daviddoria | when i right click i have "panel settings" immediately (no "panel options") |
| 19:37.37 | daviddoria | what do you mean by "screen edge button"? |
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| 19:38.20 | daviddoria | ohh I see that button now |
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| 19:38.23 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 19:38.23 | daviddoria | gotcha |
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| 19:59.45 | silver_hook | Could changing the "ForgingSeed" in 'kdmrc' cause activities not to wake up from being suspended? |
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| 20:37.22 | rdieter | silver_hook: I'd doubt it |
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| 21:08.06 | silver_hook | rdieter: Well, if it isn't it worked. |
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| 21:27.27 | muh2000 | hi all |
| 21:28.44 | muh2000 | kde 4.8.3 seems to be great :) |
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| 21:30.56 | Phr33d0m | thanks muh2000 |
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| 21:55.54 | alesan | hi, do you know if it's possible to disable the holydays in the calendar? |
| 21:57.48 | Phr33d0m | alesan yes it is |
| 21:58.41 | alesan | Phr33d0m, thanks! Do you also know how? I was looking in the KDE directories to remove the databases of the holidays but I do not know which files are those |
| 21:58.41 | Phr33d0m | go to the calendar settings and select from the "Select" column the "Not used" for the country that is currently showing you the holidays |
| 21:59.29 | alesan | where are the calendar settings? right click on the calendar and...? |
| 21:59.41 | alesan | Digital clock settings you mean? |
| 21:59.47 | Phr33d0m | yes |
| 22:00.06 | alesan | ohh I had to enlarge the window |
| 22:00.14 | Phr33d0m | yeah ;) |
| 22:00.25 | alesan | isn't there just a option button to disable the holydays complately? |
| 22:00.29 | Phr33d0m | I think a shortcut is to remove the "Display events" |
| 22:00.34 | Phr33d0m | ^ |
| 22:00.45 | Phr33d0m | I think a shortcut is to remove the "Display events" option in that same window* |
| 22:01.08 | alesan | that was already disabled |
| 22:01.20 | alesan | ohhhh my God now the calendar looks nice |
| 22:01.30 | alesan | I wonder who had the idea to put the holidays in the calendar |
| 22:01.45 | Phr33d0m | someone smart, I like that feature |
| 22:01.56 | alesan | it makes it cluttered and in any case the holidays are so many that it's ridiculous |
| 22:02.11 | alesan | well maybe they could have made it optional |
| 22:02.21 | Phr33d0m | they have |
| 22:02.22 | alesan | not impose it on loyal KDE users |
| 22:02.28 | Phr33d0m | that's why you don't have it now |
| 22:02.51 | alesan | what do you mean? this is the default |
| 22:02.58 | Phr33d0m | most users would find that useful, for those like you - there's the removal option : ) |
| 22:03.44 | abveritas | alesan: your distro can decide to have it default or not |
| 22:04.28 | alesan | abveritas, if the option was not there in the first place, there would not be a distribution to blame |
| 22:04.42 | alesan | the fact is people were very happy with KDE2, maybe 3 |
| 22:04.59 | alesan | KDE4 changes many things and made it less usable |
| 22:05.08 | alesan | I'm having such a hard time :( |
| 22:05.11 | abveritas | and people are very unhappy with kde 4.8? |
| 22:05.29 | alesan | I've been an advocate of KDE since 0.9, Qt programming and all such |
| 22:05.48 | alesan | but when I talk to my friends and I mention KDE, they all begin to laugh about how cluttered it is |
| 22:06.01 | Phr33d0m | I'd search for new friends |
| 22:06.03 | alesan | 4.8 I think it's much better: you can now drag and drop etc |
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| 22:06.19 | alesan | but you still have to do with the cashew, I hate that |
| 22:07.08 | alesan | also the "focus strictly under mouse" is now better, in early KDE4 days it was quite hard to use it |
| 22:09.10 | mokush | alesan: there's a plasmoid that allows you to remove the cashew |
| 22:09.53 | alesan | but then can you still move the icons in the status bar or without it it's impossible? |
| 22:10.11 | tosky | you mean the panel? |
| 22:10.47 | alesan | the bottom piece of the screen |
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| 22:11.06 | alesan | task manager I think it's called |
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| 22:11.23 | tosky | the panel, which _contains_ the task manager, the launcher, the systray, the clock, etc |
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| 22:11.37 | alesan | oh I did not know that was a panel |
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| 22:11.48 | tosky | just right click on it to change the configuration |
| 22:11.51 | alesan | panel gives me an impression of something bigger |
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| 22:12.06 | tosky | bigger than the entire width of the screen? O.o |
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| 22:12.18 | alesan | tosky, no, bigger in area |
| 22:12.24 | tosky | I don't remember it ever required the cashew to be configured (maybe in 4.0, but I'm not sure) |
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| 22:12.38 | tosky | in KDE3 that role was handled by kicker |
| 22:12.46 | Phr33d0m | I don't even know what that "cashew" you're talking about is... |
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| 22:14.53 | EvilMachine | hello. I have two screens (A/B), and in the expo view, the desktops (1-4) are in the wrong order. |
| 22:14.54 | EvilMachine | it should be A1,B1,A2,B2,A3,B3,A4,B4 |
| 22:15.00 | alesan | Phr33d0m, the word cashew was used in this channel to describe to me |
| 22:15.05 | alesan | so I thought it was official |
| 22:15.08 | EvilMachine | but it is A1,A2,A3,A4,B1,B2,B3,B4 |
| 22:15.23 | alesan | and it's not hard to understand what the cashew is ;) |
| 22:15.34 | Phr33d0m | EvilMachine no it shouldn't |
| 22:15.38 | EvilMachine | alesan: it’s inofficially official |
| 22:15.43 | EvilMachine | Phr33d0m: yes it should |
| 22:15.58 | Phr33d0m | EvilMachine A[1-4] should be in your left screen and B[1-4] in your right |
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| 22:16.25 | EvilMachine | Phr33d0m: no. |
| 22:16.50 | Phr33d0m | it will be that way if you're using multi-desktop (i.e. xinerama) |
| 22:17.38 | EvilMachine | Phr33d0m: B1 is right of A1. And If I have a window in B1, and drag it to the right over the edge of the cube, it ends up on A2. That’s why i want it the same in expo. |
| 22:18.01 | EvilMachine | Phr33d0m: alright. so how do i switch it over? enabling xinerama? (i thought it was on) |
| 22:18.28 | EvilMachine | Phr33d0m: or do i end up with dialog boxes in the middle between the two screens then? ^^ |
| 22:19.15 | mokush | alesan: this is the plasmoid you can use to hide the cashew: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=147892 |
| 22:19.43 | Phr33d0m | :-\ |
| 22:20.25 | Phr33d0m | EvilMachine I think I can't help you with that, hope someone else can |
| 22:20.44 | EvilMachine | Phr33d0m: alright. many thanks anyway, for trying. :) |
| 22:21.18 | EvilMachine | Phr33d0m: I may just switch over to xmonad anyway, if I find the time. ^^ |
| 22:21.27 | alesan | mokush, thanks! The cashew is one of the worst parts of KDE4! |
| 22:21.39 | alesan | I will now be able to remove it I'm so happy :) |
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| 22:21.54 | mokush | alesan: I'm not a big fan myself, but it's not really bothering me that much. |
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| 22:23.26 | Phr33d0m | alesan I tend to hide it behind my panel anyways |
| 22:23.43 | alesan | http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ/4.4#Please_provide_an_option_to_disable_the_upper_right_cashew. |
| 22:23.53 | alesan | I cannot believe that answer |
| 22:23.59 | alesan | I just cannot believe it |
| 22:24.11 | alesan | don't they know what a #define in C is? |
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| 22:25.47 | Phr33d0m | I doubt ;) |
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| 22:28.36 | mokush | alesan: besides the cashew-hiding plasmoid, there are desktop layouts now that actualy draw the desktop without the cashew, so the point described in the docs has been reached |
| 22:29.21 | alesan | oh... but I wanted to hide the cashew in the "panel"... |
| 22:29.52 | alesan | I set the desktop to the standard one, flat "teal" background with the normal icons |
| 22:31.21 | dragan | is there any tutorials, manuals hotkeys lists in pdf for kde4 users/beginers? |
| 22:32.08 | mokush | dragan: these explain a lot http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/HowTo |
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| 22:33.16 | dragan | tu 12.04 has some really nice things improvements, |
| 22:33.17 | dragan | but some areas are still far too technical. |
| 22:33.41 | mokush | alesan: you can see some of the concepts in kde sc 4, like panels, widgets, etc. on the same page http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/HowTo |
| 22:33.50 | mokush | dragan: which ones do you think are too technical? |
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| 22:35.16 | dragan | ok tnx i will look plasma how to |
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| 23:36.34 | Guest74570 | Who maintains the HIG for KDE? |
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| 23:57.11 | Phr33d0m | "I personally just encourage people to switch to KDE. This "users are idiots, and are confused by functionality" mentality of Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it." |
| 23:57.16 | Phr33d0m | ^ - Linus Torvalds |
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| 23:58.18 | thiago | when was that? |
| 23:58.53 | Phr33d0m | 2005, but doesn't still apply? ;) |