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| 01:21.00 | robotdevil | Is anyone else with me about wanting the older KDE menu (application laucher) that had a back button to make you be able to reverse out of menu entries. I nstead of having to use the written word on the right side |
| 01:23.19 | robotdevil | kickoff I believe its called |
| 01:23.47 | craigevil | right click> use classic menu |
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| 01:25.52 | robotdevil | kickoff is what sold me on kde4 in first place |
| 01:26.12 | robotdevil | classic is a PITA |
| 01:26.23 | robotdevil | imo |
| 01:26.35 | robotdevil | http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=97206 |
| 01:28.33 | robotdevil | at least my mouses back button works in the menu :-) |
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| 01:35.52 | robotdevil | since the widgets are so customizable/removable, couldnt I just get a older version of kickoff and add as widget? |
| 01:36.35 | DaZ | probably plasma api changed a few times and it doesn't work anymore, but you could try i guess :f |
| 01:37.23 | robotdevil | DaZ: sorry what doesnt work? |
| 01:37.48 | DaZ | the older menu plasmoid. |
| 01:37.57 | robotdevil | oh i see |
| 01:38.58 | robotdevil | I read it was changed because of incompatibility with right side of screen |
| 01:39.09 | robotdevil | I dont see how that is possible |
| 01:40.20 | robotdevil | its in its own little frame and is not much different now, just more tedious |
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| 01:41.07 | robotdevil | thinks they should build one with back button and put in widget set |
| 01:41.32 | craigevil | http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/9924/snapshot14g.png |
| 01:43.05 | DaZ | i think he wanted slightly less older <: |
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| 01:47.43 | robotdevil | craigevil: thats year 2k stuff |
| 01:47.53 | robotdevil | or prior lol |
| 01:48.38 | craigevil | kde 4.8.3 just using the classic menu |
| 01:48.47 | DaZ | vanilla kde 3 used it, kickoff was a patch from suse, iirc ;f |
| 01:49.17 | DaZ | similar menu, i mean. |
| 01:49.34 | robotdevil | right, sarcasim (or whatever), sorry not trying to be rude |
| 01:49.53 | robotdevil | classic menu = win98 |
| 01:50.07 | robotdevil | is what I was trying to say |
| 01:51.00 | robotdevil | so is kickoff the wrong name for kde4 application launcher |
| 01:51.33 | robotdevil | I thought it was lancelot, kickoff and classic |
| 01:51.45 | Belial` | kickoff is the default launcher for kde |
| 01:51.56 | robotdevil | ok |
| 01:52.52 | robotdevil | also appologizes for win98 reference |
| 01:53.31 | DaZ | meh, relax |
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| 01:55.24 | robotdevil | well I didnt want to bug anyone who is making still avaliable for kde4, I just really like the new one, but would love it with back button again |
| 01:56.22 | DaZ | when did it have back button? :f |
| 01:56.49 | Belial` | he means the button on the left of the menu |
| 01:56.56 | DaZ | o rly |
| 01:57.00 | Belial` | to go back after navigating through categories. |
| 01:57.44 | DaZ | still, i'm asking which version had it last :f |
| 01:58.00 | Belial` | i think it might have been 4.6.x |
| 01:58.04 | robotdevil | I think 4.7 it changed |
| 01:58.15 | Belial` | yeah, it did change with 4.7.x |
| 01:58.23 | robotdevil | not 100% on that |
| 01:58.43 | Belial` | i don't mind the new method all that much. i mostly use krunner |
| 01:58.47 | robotdevil | 4.6 to 4.8 was very swift |
| 01:59.29 | robotdevil | even my sister phoned and asked what happened to it :p |
| 01:59.33 | Belial` | so the menu is kind of irrelevant for me. other than a few apps i use as favorites because i don't want to clog up my panel with launchers in icontasks. |
| 01:59.38 | DaZ | i keep menu icon on the panel mostly because it feels so empty without it :f |
| 01:59.54 | robotdevil | DaZ: nice |
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| 02:28.36 | joseph_ | hello |
| 02:29.05 | joseph_ | :) |
| 02:29.56 | DaZ | hello |
| 02:30.11 | DaZ | robotdevil: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/81389607/snapshottiem2.png |
| 02:30.13 | DaZ | u jelly? |
| 02:30.24 | joseph_ | are you using kde |
| 02:30.39 | DaZ | no, we're all using gnome. |
| 02:30.45 | DaZ | hence the channel name. |
| 02:30.59 | joseph_ | what version |
| 02:31.07 | DaZ | 4.8.3 |
| 02:31.22 | joseph_ | cool me two |
| 02:32.16 | robotdevil | DaZ: who s the bear? rockafeller. and yes thats the one (menu) |
| 02:32.38 | DaZ | no idea, but the wallpaper's awesome :f |
| 02:33.10 | DaZ | i warn you it involves compiling. |
| 02:33.50 | robotdevil | have you ever saw worse punctuation |
| 02:34.09 | robotdevil | DaZ: oh you did that ? |
| 02:34.26 | DaZ | yes :f |
| 02:36.16 | robotdevil | ok so it will likely break kde for my updates |
| 02:36.33 | robotdevil | or would it just revert to old one |
| 02:36.46 | DaZ | pretty much revert |
| 02:37.16 | DaZ | http://wklej.org/id/764383/ |
| 02:37.36 | DaZ | and then i did make DESTDIR=~/pkg install and packaged it, but dunno what distro are you using :f |
| 02:38.25 | robotdevil | kubuntu 12.04 |
| 02:39.24 | DaZ | then it'd be nice if you use checkinstall |
| 02:42.33 | robotdevil | DaZ: so I have never really compiled anything, since stuff that is, is not handled by package manager |
| 02:43.13 | DaZ | robotdevil: checkinstall theoretically makes it handlable by package manager |
| 02:43.53 | DaZ | although i've never used it :f |
| 02:44.11 | robotdevil | has installed two gentoo systems before and thats it for anything that resembles compiling |
| 02:44.54 | robotdevil | http://wklej.org/id/764383/ so thats all I would have to do |
| 02:45.35 | DaZ | plus installing it :f |
| 02:46.58 | DaZ | you can alwas ghetto rig it by make DESTDIR=~/pkg install to install it in your home directory, find where your kde install keeps the original files and just replace them, imo. |
| 02:48.43 | robotdevil | maybe I will try from a vm so I dont break my current system |
| 02:49.28 | DaZ | why not. |
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| 02:56.55 | robotdevil | DaZ: could you give directions how install? I am already waiting in clone dl. Had a kde distro in vm manager |
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| 02:57.21 | eran | Hi. Im trying to install widget from kde-look.org but fails, can anyone help me? :) |
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| 03:03.08 | eran | (please?) :) |
| 03:03.41 | DaZ | wat? |
| 03:04.00 | robotdevil | DaZ: did that make any sense lol |
| 03:04.15 | DaZ | dunno, i went offline |
| 03:04.21 | robotdevil | anyway do I have to use cmake? |
| 03:04.25 | eran | I try to install widget from kde-look (gmail widget) but it fails to install |
| 03:04.38 | robotdevil | getting a bunch of errors |
| 03:04.57 | DaZ | post them again |
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| 03:06.54 | eran | Is there a a repository that i need to add for installing widgets from kde-look.org? |
| 03:07.11 | DaZ | eran: nope |
| 03:07.18 | DaZ | but some need compiling |
| 03:08.02 | eran | other than plasmapkg -i file ? |
| 03:08.20 | DaZ | yup |
| 03:08.35 | eran | Where can i find more detailed explenation for that? |
| 03:08.36 | robotdevil | brb |
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| 03:12.41 | robotdevil | DaZ: http://pastebin.com/5TjYZi8j |
| 03:14.22 | eran | thats for me? |
| 03:16.38 | robotdevil | DaZ: I dont have to use cmake do I |
| 03:17.12 | DaZ | robotdevil: dunno, but i think it asks for gcc :f |
| 03:17.21 | DaZ | and that one you do. |
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| 03:17.48 | DaZ | and probably it'll ask for over 9000 header packages |
| 03:17.50 | DaZ | ubuntu is fun. |
| 03:19.38 | robotdevil | DaZ: did you get the pastebin |
| 03:20.07 | DaZ | yes, and i've answered? :f |
| 03:20.14 | robotdevil | oh |
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| 03:25.54 | eran | I need help compiling icon tasks 0.9.2 from kde-look. the cmake cmd fails |
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| 03:27.47 | DaZ | eran: pastebin? :f |
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| 03:28.24 | eran | yes, http://pastebin.com/d2qc8QCk |
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| 03:31.43 | katt3985 | is this the channe;l to ask development related questions? |
| 03:32.43 | eran | DaZ: http://pastebin.com/d2qc8QCk |
| 03:33.13 | bharath | can anyone please tell me on how to build kde software , can I contribute to KDE from any OS? |
| 03:33.39 | DaZ | eran: you need kdelibs-dev, or something similar. |
| 03:34.34 | eran | I dont see it in zypper, maybe i need special repository for that? |
| 03:35.01 | DaZ | imo no. |
| 03:35.25 | DaZ | maybe it's named differently. |
| 03:35.59 | katt3985 | eran: try kdebase4-workspace-devel |
| 03:36.50 | eran | downloading. will update soon! |
| 03:37.05 | katt3985 | ok I'm assuming the answer to my question is yes |
| 03:37.33 | DaZ | iirc there is dev channel :f |
| 03:37.50 | katt3985 | Daz: where? |
| 03:39.37 | DaZ | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kde+devel+irc |
| 03:40.28 | katt3985 | DaZ you could have just said #kde-devel |
| 03:40.32 | eran | Ok, it did came through but now its stuck somewhere else: |
| 03:40.33 | eran | http://pastebin.com/EX9A3x0x |
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| 03:43.16 | eran | what else can i do to make it work? |
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| 03:45.41 | eran | DaZ: http://pastebin.com/EX9A3x0x |
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| 03:48.29 | eran | well I need to go...thanks for your help anyway |
| 03:56.47 | bharath | can I work on kde in ubuntu by following the steps in http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build |
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| 04:04.04 | robotdevil | DaZ: couldnt seem to figure it out, thanks for help anyway |
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| 04:57.47 | YellowOnion | Why does transfering to USB take hours? |
| 04:58.09 | YellowOnion | it's 1GB and yet it's going at 40KB/s |
| 04:59.12 | YellowOnion | Interestingly opening iotop starts to max out the USB transfer speed but I don't want to open iotop every time I try and transfer files |
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| 05:41.15 | rindolf | YellowOnion: this is probably not related to KDE. |
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| 05:46.25 | YellowOnion | rindolf, it's a transfer with dolphin, So it's related to KDE in my book. |
| 05:47.04 | rindolf | YellowOnion: well, does it happen with "cp" too? |
| 05:47.16 | rindolf | YellowOnion: I mean - it's not KDE's fault that it's slow. |
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| 05:53.30 | YellowOnion | rindolf, upon first look, no cp does 60MB is a few seconds |
| 05:54.46 | rindolf | YellowOnion: ah. |
| 05:54.52 | rindolf | YellowOnion: so it may be a KDE problem. |
| 05:55.24 | YellowOnion | also I get a warning about the Trash being full every time I try to delete something |
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| 05:56.35 | YellowOnion | not a warning actually, more an error, I pretty much can't delete anything |
| 05:57.21 | YellowOnion | does dolphin copy files in to the trash? |
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| 05:59.40 | YellowOnion | OK it seems to be that copying two transfers at the same time causes the problem |
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| 06:06.14 | rindolf | YellowOnion: interesting. |
| 06:06.29 | rindolf | YellowOnion: maybe report it on http://bugs.kde.org/ - are you using KDE-4.8.x or 4.9.x? |
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| 06:15.30 | YellowOnion | rindolf, some days I just want to rm -rf / and go back to windows, ever since Gnome 2 died I haven't found a sane modern DE |
| 06:15.43 | rindolf | YellowOnion: ah. |
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| 06:16.07 | rindolf | YellowOnion: did you try that GNOME2-like environment from Mint? |
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| 06:16.38 | YellowOnion | Like why can't all my http links open in my web browser |
| 06:17.27 | YellowOnion | rindolf, I hate Debian package management if I could install it on Arch, maybe I would consider it |
| 06:17.58 | rindolf | YellowOnion: the sources are available and they are open-source. |
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| 06:18.17 | rindolf | YellowOnion: you can prepare an Arch package with some amount of difficulty. |
| 06:18.52 | YellowOnion | rindolf, I don't have the time and effort to mantain my own packages |
| 06:19.32 | rindolf | YellowOnion: then make a package request. |
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| 06:22.47 | YellowOnion | rindolf, package requests don't exist in Arch you either do it yourself or wait |
| 06:23.00 | rindolf | YellowOnion: aren't there bugs? |
| 06:23.18 | rindolf | I mean issue tickets. |
| 06:24.02 | YellowOnion | yes, but when you're undermanned maintaining the current packages are the priority |
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| 09:52.52 | AL13N_lappy | hey, i can't seem to log in anymore after a power failure, it keeps hanging on the last icon |
| 09:53.07 | AL13N_lappy | is there something i can change in my .kde4/ stuff to get it to boot? |
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| 09:53.42 | AL13N_lappy | what does that last icon/step do? |
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| 09:54.46 | AL13N_lappy | i tried to move away the sessions/ dir, but that wasn't it |
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| 10:01.16 | AL13N_lappy | noone any idea? |
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| 10:18.06 | AL13N_lappy | anyone know what .kde4 files i can modify to start with an empty session |
| 10:19.16 | MaNI | The aggregation mode buttons and the classic theme seem to have vanished from my kmail (possibly due to some kind of file corruption or something) - what do I need to do to get them back? |
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| 10:23.06 | B-ZaR | AL13N_lappy: I usually just mv .kde4 .kde4.old :) |
| 10:23.18 | B-ZaR | reset everything :D |
| 10:23.52 | AL13N_lappy | i need my imap stuff, or i'll be doing hours refetching |
| 10:24.05 | AL13N_lappy | i notice kded4 is the process that seems to hang |
| 10:24.23 | AL13N_lappy | what is the config files that kded4 uses? |
| 10:24.45 | AL13N_lappy | anyone what KDE is doing when the last icon is appearing |
| 10:24.46 | AL13N_lappy | ? |
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| 10:30.52 | BluesKaj | Hey all |
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| 10:58.36 | eran | Hi. Im using KDE 4 with OpenSuse12.1. Once mouse is hovering above a task, everything else becomes faded. can it be disabled? |
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| 11:01.46 | mcorteel__ | eran: I'm not sure what you're saying, but try disabling the window preview in the desktop effects section of systemsettings |
| 11:02.08 | eran | Ill take a look there. thanks. |
| 11:02.20 | eran | I tried messing around with tasks widgets ;\ |
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| 11:41.05 | kernelpanic | Hello! How can I disable kwin's electric borders/active edges in kde 4.7? |
| 11:42.39 | hateball | kernelpanic: you mean the blue shadow-stuff ? |
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| 11:49.50 | hateball | Guess not |
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| 11:58.44 | kernelpanic | hateball: no. when you drag a window to the top/side, it becomes maximized or half-sized. |
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| 12:03.09 | mokush | kernelpanic: if you mean the 'aero-snap-like' behaviour, you can disable it from systemsettings>workspace behaviour>screen edges |
| 12:03.49 | kernelpanic | mokush: perfect, thank you! |
| 12:04.05 | mokush | kernelpanic: no problemo |
| 12:04.14 | hateball | never heard the expression electric borders before :) |
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| 12:10.05 | kernelpanic | hateball: had no idea what it was called, but found it named in the code like this |
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| 12:31.08 | bretzel | Hi, What the H... is happening to plasma-widget 'skins/themes' management ??? render is totaly a mess : switch theme - and every f*&^ widget (panel, cashew, kickoff) show in totaly different 'skin' even if in details everythings is on the theme name ( logout/login/restart-X) does nothing better, random ) |
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| 12:34.13 | bretzel | I have that mess since kde 4.8.x - no matter the distribution - it IS KDE. |
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| 12:35.15 | aseigo | try: rm `kde4-config --prefix`/cache-*/plasma* -rf |
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| 12:40.17 | bretzel | aseigo, this is for me ? - tanks for the hint then :-) |
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| 12:44.53 | bretzel_ | aseigo: " rm `kde4-config --prefix`/cache-*/plasma* -rf" does nothing |
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| 14:03.19 | eran | I have question about Gmail-plasmoid widget. How do i configure my account in it? It says "this object could not be created for the following reason: Could not create a python ScriptEngine" |
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| 14:21.12 | madura | hello, im getting this QProcess: Destroyed while process is still running. |
| 14:21.12 | madura | Unexpected response from KInit (response = 0). and ksmserver not found check your installation on my .xsession-errors why is it? |
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| 14:41.46 | _jam | my kmail has slowed to a crawl. It now takes several minutes to open each email and several minutes to send even a basic text-based email |
| 14:41.58 | _jam | what has happened and how do I fix it? |
| 14:42.06 | _jam | I'm on kubuntu 12.04 |
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| 14:52.15 | Euvius | anyone know where word count is in Kate? every writer needs that, so Im sure its here somewhere |
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| 15:52.42 | sunnybg | hi. kde 4.8 with dual-monitor setup. I want to start krdc from command line as fullscreen on the second monitor. I see the --display option, but I can not figure out what to put there. I tried 0:0, 0.0, 0:1, 0.1, but it says that this is wrong X. So, what is the proper thing for --display option? |
| 15:53.13 | cb400f | most likely you only have one X display |
| 15:53.26 | cb400f | spread across two monitors |
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| 15:54.52 | sunnybg | cb400f: you are right, but still - how then I forse it to display on the second monitor. if I start it windowed, move the window on the second monitor and enable the fulscreen, it works ok. I just want to do this from command line, so I don't have to move around |
| 15:55.44 | cb400f | maybe you can use kwin rules to force the app to start on a certain position |
| 15:56.18 | sunnybg | good idea, let me try |
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| 16:03.30 | eran | is there a good looking skin for dolphin? its too grey now.. |
| 16:03.57 | cb400f | use a different kde colour scheme then |
| 16:04.50 | eran | is there something maybe a bit more eye candy? |
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| 16:06.00 | cb400f | I don't know what's candy to your eyes.. find color schemes on kde-look.org or make your own |
| 16:06.11 | eran | Ok, thanks :) |
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| 16:07.10 | eran | themes in kde-look are for all windows, dolphin too? |
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| 16:29.21 | nabukadnezar43 | can anyone recommend a gtk3/gtk2 theme that blends well with oxygen |
| 16:29.25 | nabukadnezar43 | i did not like oxygen-gtk |
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| 16:31.13 | sunnybg | cb400f: this worked. thanks for the suggestion |
| 16:31.37 | cb400f | great |
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| 16:37.22 | weox | before i use kde i used gnome ... all file associations still remian gedit (even image or movie or pdf ) , how can i change file associations to defualt of os ?? ( |
| 16:38.09 | nabukadnezar43 | system settings->default applications? |
| 16:40.33 | weox | nabukadnezar43 there is 1000 file associations ,, it take 3 days if i want change them by hand .. if i know where save kde file associations i can write prel script for that !! but i cant find anything |
| 16:41.07 | cb400f | you click these files in dolphin and they open with gedit? |
| 16:41.35 | weox | cb400f : yes .. all fils |
| 16:41.39 | weox | fils == files |
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| 16:41.54 | cb400f | how about uninstalling gedit :-) |
| 16:42.10 | weox | cb400f: already uninstalled dude :D |
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| 16:45.53 | weox | any help ? |
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| 16:50.56 | cb400f | no idea how a system can be so messed up |
| 16:51.58 | thiago | try hard |
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| 16:58.56 | weox | thiago i found kcontrol .. and there is filetypes setting but cannot find anything usefull |
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| 17:09.20 | vbgunz | I'v3e had this long time annoying issue and just dealt with it. I am using KDE 4.8.3 on Fedora 17 (upgraded from 16) and this issue persists. Every time I boot up and log in, the desktop freezes for about 10-15 seconds. What is causing this? |
| 17:09.51 | vbgunz | How do I find out? |
| 17:13.11 | PhilRod_ | vbgunz: you could start top on a tty (ie, Ctrl+Alt+F1 and log in there), then log into kde from kdm, switch back to the tty and see if there's a process using a lot of CPU/RAM? |
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| 17:15.39 | vbgunz | PhilRod_: I am going to that, although I believe it doesn't persist across logins but reboots. I remember trying to deal with it a long time ago and just got tired of trying to figure it out. It's just something I have to deal with. I'll try it out in a bit and let you know what's up |
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| 17:21.06 | vbgunz | Ok, I am going to try it out and see what happens |
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| 18:01.43 | vbgunz | PhilRod_: I tried a couple times and all that popped to the top of top was virtuoso-t and pulseaudio. I really couldn't tell what was freezing the desktop *but* I started all future KDE sessions empty and now every login seems perfect. It's not really an answer but damn I want my stuff to work even if I have to fool myself into thinking it just works |
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| 18:03.57 | BluesKaj | vbgunz, virtuoso -t is the nepomuk search app , and it uses cpu just looking for something to do , if you don't use nepomuk search just disable desktop search in system settings |
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| 18:10.21 | vbgunz | BluesKaj: thanks although it spiked to 106 on login, I never notice it running. I was just trying to kill that 10-15 second freeze at login. Starting with new sessions only seems to really take care of something. I will re-enable last session and see what happens in a bit. |
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| 18:13.37 | BluesKaj | vbgunz, well if you don't use kmail then akonadi server can be disabled as well , it's also linked to nepomuk |
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| 18:15.43 | vbgunz | BluesKaj: thanks, I do use kmail but have really been considering switching. that's another story for another day I suppose, I do appreciate your advice |
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| 18:20.47 | vbgunz | BluesKaj: yup. true |
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| 22:00.27 | gr72 | Hey guys, I have arch installed on a toshiba laptop, and I know wlan0 is working because I can see it in ifconfig but when I open the network manager or 'network interfaces' wlan0 doesn't show. When I use wicd + gui it works and I have wireless. Can anyone help me find out why wlan isn't showing up in either of the two KDE apps? |
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