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01:44.12Brustofski-Fankde 4.9 beta what do i need to do to get the dream desktop or live wallpaper going?
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02:59.15chicaohello
02:59.49chicaoi developed a kde plugin to krita but it does not load
03:00.21chicaoi verified the paths and it seems all fine
03:00.43chicaothe dynamic library it's installed in the proper folder as well
03:01.25chicaodoes anyone have an idea what causes a plugin not to load?
03:02.39chicaomy kbuildsycoca4 output : http://paste.kde.org/505598/
03:04.04chicaomy path configuration script: http://paste.kde.org/505604/
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03:05.57chicaothe localization of the library and desktop file : http://paste.kde.org/505610/
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03:07.47chicaosorry
03:07.51chicaoi'm posting to kde-devel now
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03:17.22kevrI'm trying to use kde, but within kde I have no window decorator.
03:17.26kevrI was just using xmonad prior to this.
03:17.32kevr:S
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05:01.12abdulkarimHi
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05:01.55abdulkarimI'm new to KDE and un-knowingly screwed up my theme  (http://imagebin.org/217430) How do i reset everything to default?
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05:38.18liznevadahard way were to ranaming  ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 but not sure anymore
05:38.37liznevadaah nevermind
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05:59.52phanindrarameshhai all, I have just installed KDE. I the kate editor when I select some lines in a text file, the lines to be highlighted are going invisible. I think may the highlight colour of kate is set to white. How can I change that?
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06:03.15liznevadahello, you can set Kate's colors in its preferences tab
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06:57.37stack3457http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=axtKwJzT Hey,after cmake . command when I used make command I got this error - libkdepim/kcheckcombobox.h: No such file or directory.How should I remove this error?
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09:21.27Sonderbladewhat kde spreadsheet software can open gnumeric files?
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09:37.39phanindrarameshhai all. when ever I open a text file in kde, it is opening along with another empty text document. how can I avoid it?
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09:48.25M8XHello y'all! I'm new to KDE and I wonder how to make Konqueror play youtube videos? To mention I'm on a fresh Arch install.
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09:51.41Vergewww.youtube.com/html5
09:53.23VergeOr just use Rekonq
09:56.11M8XSo Konqueror does not support html5?
09:56.18VergeDunno
09:56.27VergeEverybody support it a bit
09:57.22M8XWell I can't play songs on soundcloud either. I wonder if it is some plugin that I'm missing.
09:57.49VergeThey use flash
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09:59.33phanindrarameshhai all. when ever I open a text file in kde, it is opening along with another empty text document. how can I avoid it?
09:59.44M8XDoes not work with the flashplugin installed though.
09:59.58VergeUse Rekonq
10:00.24M8XOk, I'll do so then!
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10:00.58VergeActually, use Firefox or Chrome, but Rekonq is the most similar to Konqueror
10:01.39M8XOkay then I'll go with the fox. Always worked the best for me.
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10:31.08studentHello google
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10:35.00judgenis it possible to start kmix in minimized mode?
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11:43.50ijwynso something really weird just happened... I hit Alt-F4 to close an app but instead it shut down my session!!!
11:44.27ijwynto avoid this from happening again, I was wondering, is there a way to force KDE to ask me if I actually do want to close the session before it does so rather than just closing without prompting?
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11:57.00ijwynwell this is getting weirder... it's apparently *already* set to ask confirmation, and yet it did not! any ideas anyone? I lost data because of this and would hate to see it happen again :-(
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12:59.35Brustofski-Fanin kde 4.9 beta what do i need to get the dreamdesktop live wallpaper going?
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13:09.13rdieter_workBrustofski-Fan: I'm having trouble finding it in 4.8.90, you *sure* it's included?  my googling just includes hear-say that 'the author says it's going to be in 4.9', but I can't find any references beyond that.
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13:10.45BluesKaj_Hey all
13:10.45rdieter_workah, found http://santyago.pl/blog/read/2012/04/14/rozwoj-dreamdesktop.html
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13:12.17Brustofski-Fanrdieter_work, thats all i can find to... is the video's showing it!! looks so cool
13:12.19rdieter_workI can't read it, but I can't find any links to actual code :(
13:13.26rdieter_workok, I do see references to xwinwrap and mplayer.  it's embedding mplayer?  meh
13:13.45Brustofski-Fani found something last night i don't know if it is for it or what!!   http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/WallpaperHelloWorld
13:14.10rdieter_worknot using phonon = fail, imho
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13:41.31xunie-laptopSo I'm modifying a simple KDE app (Score Reading Trainer) used to learn musical notation to accept midi input.
13:41.31xunie-laptopI suppose KDE doesn't deal at all with midi and I should just use OSS/Jack's things?
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14:43.32Guest38385Hi, i have fresh install Kubuntu 12.04 + beta KDE: 4.8.90. And i have small trouble. Example: If i catch window with mouse cursor, and wont to move windows somewhere, cursor comme, but window is like freeze for 1 second. Is this bug, problem with my hardware or future? :)
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14:44.05Guest38385cursor movieng without any delay*
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15:03.36wraithguard01Hello. How do I configure the appearance of knotify? Not what triggers it, but the appearance itself
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15:21.36Bugsonhello guys when I suspend my KDE (latest version on archlinux) I can't recover from it, what I get is black screen and no reaction to anything
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15:22.01rdieterwraithguard01: I don't think it's (very) configurable.  though it definitely uses the current plasma/desktop theme
15:22.02BugsonWhen I use pm-suspend kde is back to live but with some errors
15:22.08Bugsonany ideas?
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15:22.57rdieterBugson: suspend issues are usually kernel/driver (video mostly) related
15:23.18wraithguard01rdieter: Hmm. Ok. It's not the end of the world. Oh well.
15:23.22wraithguard01Thanks though!
15:23.30Bugsonrdieter: any logs that I should check?
15:24.02Bugsonrdieter: like I said pm-suspend works almost perfectly so I think it must be the kde issue
15:24.21rdieterBugson:you'd be better off asking elsewhere, it's most likely not a kde issue (ie, as in your distro's channel/mailing-list for example)
15:25.05rdieterBugson: almost perfectly?  "what I get is black screen and no reaction to anything" doesn't sound like it to me. ?
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15:25.41Bugsonrdieter: it's when I use suspend to ram in kde, when I use sudo pm-suspend command it works
15:26.28rdieterthose 2 should be about close to equivalent, odd
15:26.42Bugsonrdieter: that's why I'm asking here ;)
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15:32.30rdieterBugson: you using solid/upower backend?  if so, turns out upower ends up calling pm-suspend too
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15:34.14rdieterBugson: you *sure* about the different behavior (ie, have you tested more than just a few times)?
15:34.27rdietercould be that it's just hit or miss either way
15:34.40Bugsonrdieter: I'll try again
15:35.11Bugsonsimply my pc has no reaction so I don't want to do it often, I need to do hard reset afterwards
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15:36.35rdieterthe simplest explanation is that suspend is a bit unreliable for you, period.
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15:43.11Milkahey, how can I set my external monitor to be the only one used when one is connected (so laptop screen should be disabled) and then automatically switch to laptop screen when the external one is disconnected? KDE4.7.4
15:45.16Bugsonrdieter: ok so I can't repeat it again, but when kde finally starts it throw me an error http://pastebin.com/HCsWxm1z
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16:00.32rdieterBugson: sure, crashed inside libGL (possible corrupt stack).  not kde.
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16:01.24rdieterI assume you have desktop effects enabled, why it's tickling libGL here (but the cause may be something else too)
16:01.47rdieteranyway, we're back to suspecting kernel/drivers(video in particular)
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16:04.22Bugsonrdieter: after more investigation I find out that fresh user (no config files) works well with and without desktop efects
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16:05.08Bugsonrdieter: but my user (I must have some strange config files) works only with disabled desktop efects
16:05.44Bugsonif not then my pc freezes
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16:07.11rdieterpossible the old user has certain effects enabled that help induce the problem(s)
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16:49.00gomoranIn the past one could simply drag an link,… from konqueror into konsole and got the link, now a menu pops up. Can this be configured?
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16:54.09Adapteegomoran: unfortunately you can't at the moment.
16:54.24gomoranAdaptee: :(
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16:58.10Adapteegomoran: If you really feel bored with the popup menu, you can file a report for making it configurable on bugs.kde.org. Then maybe it will be implemented in next feature release.
16:59.28gomoranAdaptee: I have used it frequently and the menu slows down the process…
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16:59.55craigevilcopy&paste works without the menu popping up
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17:03.51craigevilcopy them to /usr/share/ so they show up in systemsettings
17:04.49Adapteegomoran: Then go ahead to bugs.kde.org. If you don't report your issue with one feature, it probably never will be improved.
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17:05.35aetoxxcraigevil, without root rights
17:05.40gomoranAdaptee: You are probably right.
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19:03.53kkitis there a way to restore this behavior? it isn't in the gwenview preferences
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19:32.07kkitah, geeqie seems to provide the functionality i need.
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20:56.32bjrohanHi everyone
20:56.59stack3457http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=GtEsGgQN please suggest how to remove this error.
20:58.03bjrohanI just installed KDE on my Ubuntu 12.04 machine, so far I like it, but have  a couple of questions 1.) How do I change themes? I can see where to change styles but not themes. I ask because I would like to add the Oxygen Transparent theme
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20:58.26bjrohan2nd what is a good dock to use to get out from KDE looking like Windoze
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20:58.57tiduxwhat's the Debian package for the Konqueror webkit backend?
20:59.17tiduxI've got QtWebKit installed (for QupZilla), but KHTML is still the only offered option
20:59.23bjrohan3rd, how to I make a shortcut to change virtual desktops? i went to settings, shortcuts and gestures, but can't find it
20:59.41tiduxctrl-Ffoo by default
20:59.42DaZtidux: you need to get webkitpart
20:59.46pinotreetidux: ask in the channel of your distro
20:59.49tiduxctrl-f1 is desktop one
20:59.50tiduxetc.
20:59.52tiduxthanks pinotree
21:00.09DaZand fiddle in .html type settings :f
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21:00.40bjrohanThanks tidux
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21:00.57pinotreestack3457: how is that related to kde?
21:01.33Inkanebjrohan: there aren't that much docks for KDE, you could try daisy
21:01.44tiduxfound it
21:01.44Inkaneor use the cairo-dock
21:01.50tiduxthe Debian package is "kpart-webkit"
21:02.04Inkanethough depending on your distro that will pull some gtk dependencies
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21:15.49bjrohanI am back. When switching desktops I shut off my wireless radio, rebooted until I figured out what I messed up.  I think I have KDE 4.8, how do I change themes?
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21:18.52Inkanebjrohan: use systemsettings and go to the appereance settings
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21:20.45bjrohanI see where it has style, however in googling for the answer some say there should be a Style, and a seperate Theme option
21:20.49bjrohanI have the Style option
21:21.24bjrohanIf I so use style, How do I take a theme from KDE-LOOK and install it?
21:22.46Inkanebjrohan: there should be a get new stuff button
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21:24.42mah454Hello
21:25.19bjrohanIn that System Settings, Appearance menu?
21:25.27mah454Have KDE4 application for send or receive sms  ?
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21:27.14Inkanebjrohan: should be the right one if I got you right
21:28.52bjrohaninkane, I am not seeing it. I go to System Settings, Appearance item, in Style I can see a drop down box to choose widget style,
21:29.17bjrohandoes KDE come with a quick print screen
21:29.58Inkanebjrohan: wait, I'll create a screenshot
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21:31.27bjrohanOK, I see I can use my standard print screen button, from there is there a way to copy and paste to a sharing site?
21:34.21bjrohanhttp://ScrnSht.com/fblxqs
21:34.33bjrohaninkane that is my screenshot with my system settings up
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21:36.53Inkaneah, that one. I thought you were refering to http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/21056315.png/
21:37.27Inkanewhich widget style do you want to install? there is no get hot new stuff button for that one, though
21:38.09Inkanebjrohan: ^^^
21:38.43bjrohaninteresting
21:39.06bjrohanfrom KDE-Look.org I would like the Oxygen-transparent theme
21:39.18Inkaneah no
21:39.35Inkaneyou don't install it in that screen you posted
21:39.42Inkanebut in the one I've uploaded
21:39.56bjrohanWhere do I find the one you uploaded?
21:40.09Inkanefirst thing I would do is check if you have oxygen-transparent in your repositories
21:40.33Inkaneit's in systemsettings
21:40.52Inkanebelow the one you've had, next to the workspace settings
21:42.36bjrohanHmm okay I did find that place, I enabled desktop effects at startup, and it said it couldn't enable a lot of them, but whatever
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21:43.14bjrohanI don't see a workspace settings
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21:46.41bjrohanInkane i am uploading another screenshot
21:47.06Inkanek, but if you want to have oxygen-transparent you have to install it either from your distro,
21:47.11Inkaneor compile it from source afaik
21:47.19Inkaneas it needs to do some tweaking
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21:49.22bjrohanOkay, so in my distro, I look via synaptic package manager?
21:49.35Inkaneif it's apt based, then yes
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21:54.24bjrohanI am not seeing it in my standard repo Inkane :-(
21:54.47bjrohanLeads me to another question I asked previously then, is there a dock for KDE such as Engage for enlightenment
21:55.25Inkanehaven't I answered that one already?
21:55.32Inkanedaisy or cairo
21:55.41Inkaneor are you looking for something different
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21:56.01Inkaneabout installing oxygen transparent, you might want to look at http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/how-to-install-oxygen-transparent-style.html
21:56.12Inkanedon't know if it's still up to date
21:56.30Inkaneand I don't use a Debian based distro for KDE
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21:58.38bjrohanThank youo muchly!
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22:13.07bjrohanI am back inkane
22:13.24bjrohanI tried following the directions, I have an issue with the script running
22:13.35bjrohangit clone git://anongit.kde.org/oxygen-transparent
22:13.37bjrohanand
22:13.49bjrohansh: 1: git: not found
22:13.50bjrohansystem git clone git://anongit.kde.org/oxygen-transparent>&1 failed: 32512
22:14.47Inkaneah well, seems you don't have git installed
22:15.01bjrohanoh
22:15.55bjrohaninstalling now.
22:16.46bjrohanWhy would most of my desktop effect, when enabled, not work?
22:17.30Inkanedon't know, maybe a driver issue
22:17.39bjrohangotcha
22:17.39Inkanebut you should ask that one in your distro channel
22:17.42bjrohanGot another error
22:17.50bjrohan-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
22:17.52bjrohansystem cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=release /home/bjrohan/oxygen-transparent/src>&1 failed: 256
22:18.29Inkanemeh, remove the >&1
22:18.40Inkanepiping the output away makes debugging impossible
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22:19.33bjrohaninthe script
22:20.08Inkanewell, in the command you just posted
22:20.49bjrohanI didn't type that command, that was the error it threw
22:20.56bjrohanthe script I ran
22:21.50bjrohanI must get foing, I will fart with this laer
22:21.52bjrohanlater
22:21.58bjrohanthank you again for your help inkane
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