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00:10.13markittreehugger: wht ltsp  will not fly there? have you seen the "fat" configuration?
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00:10.34markitwith ltsp you install programs only on the server, and every client will have them
00:10.55markitalso you can login in whatever pc you want and find your usual home
00:10.56markitetc.
00:12.11markitfor login popups, I would do a "rgrep" to seen if by mistake username is "embedded" in some config file
00:12.27markitand check all files permissions, just in case
00:12.58markitsleep time, see you
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02:40.13AeroFoamAnyone know what the deal is with the panel autohide and the K menu? It doesn't do it do it with the old school K menu, but once I click the new one the panel stops autohiding.
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07:56.57blablaasomeone knows how to make the panel at the bottom transparent?
07:57.07blablaai don't like to mix transparent and non transparent panels... :)
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11:19.22rindolfHi all.
11:27.17xxtjaxxWhy would Dolphin try and connect to port 111 on my laptop during startup, fail misserably(timeout), block the UI and end up being slow to start?
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12:16.31BluesKajHiyas all
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12:45.29teddyp1ckereveryone nows how to use adwaita gtk3 engine under kubuntu?
12:45.42BluesKajSorinan, pointer threshold in system settings>input devices>mouse>advanced
12:45.45teddyp1ckerfor gtk3 apps
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12:48.34thiagoteddyp1cker: maybe you should ask in a kubuntu or gtk channel?
12:48.39thiagoVamp898: it's there
12:48.49thiagoVamp898: press the Shift button
12:49.08teddyp1ckermaybe i should)
12:49.43Vamp898thiago: omg thx, how could someone hide it like that xD
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12:59.01SorinanBluesKaj, ohh, I think I understood how it works now, thank you so much :P
12:59.47BluesKajSorinan, np
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13:42.18yecril71plWhy can’t I copy text out of Kompare?
13:43.26yecril71plMoreover, Text view does not show anything
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13:54.40Brustofski-FanI know some distro's the desktop has better quality and cleaner look to graphics and video... Anyone know who has the best kde desktop?
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14:04.43kdepepobest? compile from git master :)
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14:11.03BluesKajBrustofski-Fan, the graphics system/driver and setup determines your image quality for a given monitor , not the distro
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14:13.19Brustofski-Fanbluesceada, i noticed like in Mageia the desktop and video playback look much cleaner.. and that is useing the same free ati driver as other distro's
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14:16.16mase_x200Brustofski-Fan: probably just a different version.
14:16.48mase_x200either that or compile option.
14:18.48Brustofski-FanGetting ready to leave windows and comeback to linux.. Onlything i need windows for is photoshop... Thats what vm is for..
14:20.46BluesKajBrustofski-Fan, setup for your monitot is important incuding dpi etc in system settings for fonts , and refresh/frame rates
14:22.24Brustofski-Fanbluesceada, so distro's might have those settings different then others that make everything look netter?
14:26.34BluesKajBrustofski-Fan, my nick is BluesKaj
14:27.40Brustofski-FanBluesKaj, my bad i typed Blue then hit tab once
14:28.14BluesKajkde system settinsgs are pretty much the same across the distros , Brustofski-Fan
14:28.32BluesKajtoo many blue ppl :)
14:30.12Brustofski-Fanmy nick comes from http://www.youtube.com/user/allisonbrustofski?feature=results_main
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15:18.58mike_oIs there a way to create keybinding chains like "C-w C-1" to send a window to desktop 1? I googled a bit but didn't come up with anything terribly promising.
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15:19.38Roeymike_o:  you want to force a window to a certain desktop?
15:21.19mike_oWell, I'm really more interested in the keybinding chain. I already know how to force it to go somewhere.
15:21.32Roeyahh ok
15:21.34Roeyhmm
15:21.37Roeykhotkeys
15:21.38Roey?
15:21.57Roeyhrm no go
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15:31.55ercxbindkeys xdotool
15:32.27ercxmodmap if u really hardcore
15:34.43erclokks like a case for xdotool
15:35.41mike_oI'll take a look. Thanks.
15:37.00ercall distro preseed some settings in /etc/skel, add to doodads etc.
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15:37.39LarsThi all
15:37.59ercwhy so many knock-off distro so popular
15:38.55ercjust new mix of defaults, all works the same in the end if you tweak enough knobs
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16:45.50|Anthony|i use ubuntu 10.04 and have installed kdm to experiment with multiseat. I am having some issue with logging out and shutdown events
16:46.18|Anthony|i also can't find an irc chan specific to kdm
16:47.03ercwhat kde version?
16:47.37|Anthony|the full kde isn't installed, just enough for kdm
16:47.42|Anthony|but the version...
16:47.44|Anthony|one sec
16:48.21|Anthony|looks like 4.4.5
16:48.38|Anthony|installed via synaptic and ubuntu repos
16:49.29|Anthony|i'm still using the gnome2 de
16:49.30BluesKajgdm not working |Anthony|?
16:49.47ercI guess kde-base would give you enough
16:50.41|Anthony|BluesKaj, gdm was working fine, i haven't switched back to it. but gdm is unable to launch multiple x sessions, so i needed kdm
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16:51.27erchalf-installed kde is fun
16:51.40|Anthony|hehe
16:51.42ercbreaks in interesting ways :)
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16:51.49|Anthony|seems so eh?
16:52.13|Anthony|so does kdm depend on the full de install?
16:52.22|Anthony|well, soft depend
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16:53.12ercsome services missing to bring it down clean imho
16:53.52ercbut I clueless of all upstart
16:54.15troyscowls at nick theives
16:54.44|Anthony|probably erc
16:55.16|Anthony|is wondering if all display managers have soft depends on a specific de
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16:55.35troyxdm doesn't :D
16:56.07BluesKajtroy,, there's a T roy in ubuntu , no space in his nick of course
16:56.15|Anthony|and is xdm as nice to work with as kdm?
16:57.17|Anthony|idk... tbh i have'nt switched to ubuntu 12.04 cause i hate what gnome has become
16:57.20troyBluesKaj: well, as far as openprojects is concerned, nicks are case insensitive so he's probably got a tail now or something
16:57.28troyerrr, s/openprojects/freenode/
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16:57.36|Anthony|i like a more traditional desktop
16:57.39|Anthony|well, sort of
16:57.41BluesKajyup he uses ^
16:58.06troyBluesKaj: ah, I see him in #python sometimes... and everytime someone speaks to him, my nick highlight alarm goes off
16:58.07|Anthony|i like my conky, screenlets, compiz and cairo-dock
16:58.13troyon/j #pyth
16:58.57troy^ anyone know how to turn palm-detection on for the synaptics driver? sometimes I accidentically click with my palm and relocate my cursor :D
16:59.24BluesKajtroy, ok , maybe you guys should discuss this :)
17:00.05troyBluesKaj: I joke about it, but really, it's a problem with my irc client's nick detection... could file a bug with konversation
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17:01.02troySho_: ping
17:01.08Sho_troy: pong?
17:01.24troySho_: do you still do konvi development?
17:01.28Sho_troy: sure
17:02.05troySho_: any chance that nick detection thing I was talking about here a few seconds ago would be an easy fix?
17:02.39Sho_troy: You're upset because someone using the nick Troy is highlighting you?
17:02.50Sho_that ... uh ... sounds like it works as advertised?
17:02.54troySho_: someone using Troy^
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17:04.13troySho_: maybe I'll look at it... my name isn't common, by I could imagine for other more common nicks it'd be more annoying
17:04.21troygets sources
17:04.26Sho_troy: Then it shouldn't highlight you actually, the default nick highlight does a full-word match ... things I can think of is that Qt categorized ^ as a word boundary so it fails anyway or that you manually configured a highlight for troy that doesn't do a full-word match
17:04.50troySho_: no, I haven't configured anything
17:05.16Sho_troy: In terms of user-end workarounds without code changes, if it _is_ the default highlight that is failing you you could disable it and set up your own regex
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17:17.39troySho_: will look into it - my regex-fu sucks, but if I figure out a better default regex that fixes nicks with weird characters, would a bug report and patch be welcome?
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17:18.21Sho_troy: sure ... but I'm still a bit skeptical about the whole thing :)
17:18.56troysho_^: did this highlight your nick?
17:19.22Sho_troy: heh - yeah
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17:20.03troySho_: the regex should probably be designed to consider all legal characters within nicks as part of the word. :D
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17:23.51szalthough what characters are legal in a nick varies from network to network
17:24.08szalesp. smaller networks tend to allow special characters in nicks
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17:26.03mnicehello
17:26.05mnicelittle issue
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17:26.57mnicei've installed several new kdm themes via kcm kdm_theme_manager module .. they've installed without error but they are not listed in the module itself .. where are they stored please ?
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17:36.00troyszal: okay, problem is now too complicated :D
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17:56.17piggz_how can i make the kde/kickoff menu slide up, instead of flipping towards the screen...im sure it did slide a few days ago!
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18:03.18troypiggz_: you changed kwin settings?
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18:03.45troypiggz_: mine slides, but I think if I mucked with the kwin effects enough, I could break it :D
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18:03.48piggz_troy: maybe..but i cant see a setting to make them slide back up
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18:06.39troyhrm, maybe it was a style thing
18:07.05troyI don't know :D
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18:10.50piggz_troy: turning off glide turns off the horrible effect, but it still doesnt slide up, even though 'sliding popups' effect is enabled
18:11.50troypiggz_: I have sliding popups disabled, and it slides
18:12.54troypiggz_: heh, nevermind, it's enabled
18:13.14piggz_fsking weird
18:14.15troydo you have glide enabled or similar?
18:15.27troyI dunno :D
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18:19.13piggz_glide is the crappy one
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19:13.24veryhappyhi guys need your help i want to deactivate compositing and the annoying blue edge forever
19:13.31veryhappyhow can i do that_
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19:16.06rindolfveryhappy: systemsettings.
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19:16.42rindolfveryhappy: systemsettings -> Desktop Effects.
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19:18.06veryhappyrindolf: everything seems to be deactivated
19:18.13rindolfveryhappy: OK.
19:18.16veryhappyrindolf: i don't know what i should deactivate yet
19:18.22rindolfveryhappy: do you have compiz enabled?
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19:18.47rindolfveryhappy: do you have anything in .xinitrc or .Xclients or whatever?
19:18.56veryhappywell i began first now to really work with the system and that's why i also begin to understand how to set everything up
19:19.03veryhappywell i'll look
19:19.19veryhappyunder which path do i find .xinitrc?
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19:24.36veryhappywhat do i have to do now?
19:25.10veryhappywell i gotta go for now
19:25.14veryhappyi'll come back later
19:25.31ganihey everyone.. i have installed kubuntu 12.04 to my lenovo netbook but the panel is not okay.. it is shifted to top.... even kickoff Application launcher is not there in panel.. how to get rid of this problem?
19:25.59veryhappygo in the settings of your control bar and pull it down gani
19:26.04veryhappysee you later guys
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19:30.53ganithat is what i was trying... but i dont get any options like panel settings when i right click on panel... i only get Add widget and lock panel as options ..
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19:31.57ganiis there any particular settings to be set for netbook?
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19:38.48BluesKajgani , kmenu>computer>system settings>workspace behaviour>workspaces>workspce type, choose netbook
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20:16.35veryhappyhi guys i was here before asked how i can disable the blue edge shadow in kde beecause it really annoys me, desktop effects are already disabled now i don't know how to get further. please help. thank you
20:16.51Sho_veryhappy: in the window deco options
20:17.16veryhappydeco options?
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20:17.28veryhappySho_: where are the deco options?
20:18.05Sho_veryhappy: System Settings -> Workspace Appearance or so, then the Configure Decoration button below the deco list ..
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20:19.40veryhappySho_: wanna get a free beer today? :D
20:20.01Sho_veryhappy: nah I don't drink .)
20:20.03Sho_but thanks
20:20.17veryhappyeverything's fine. thank you
20:20.48veryhappysee ya guys
20:20.51veryhappytc
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22:35.50do0obHi
22:36.22do0obwhats the cheapest/slowest nvidia card i can run kde on with fully fluid graphics?
22:36.36do0obmy GTX480 is broken :(
22:36.47do0obeven flash video crashes it
22:38.05do0obWhat shader model needs to be supported?
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22:40.22Sho_do0ob: pretty much anything that plugs into pci express is new enough i'd say
22:40.27Osakasado0ob, i'm running kde on my test computer with geforce 6600
22:40.56Sho_do0ob: however, you should probably get at least a g80 core or newer to hit the newest driver code paths
22:40.58do0obOsakasa: all the graphics are smooth?
22:41.19Osakasashooth as 2Ghz CPU gives ☺ but yes
22:41.34do0obthe g80 series is when the cards started failing after the bad solder choice
22:44.37do0obOsakasa: how much ram does it have?
22:45.00Osakasamy test computer: 2GHz, 2gb ram and geforce 6600
22:45.17Sho_has a gtx275 right now
22:47.14Osakasaand ubuntu 12.04 64 installed
22:49.52do0obhow much gpu ram?
22:50.05Sho_1 GB for my gtx275
22:51.47Osakasahhhmm... possible 512
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22:57.01ahoffsta2I have a netbook with ION, which is a nvidia 9400, and runs well. The procesor is crappy, but graphics are good.
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23:05.34do0obWell it looks like my PC gaming days are over, Thanks guys
23:07.48Sho_do0ob: i'm sure eventually you can buy something nice again ..
23:08.33xispiritoi don't gaming anymore, im protest against monopoly =D
23:08.52Sho_who's monopoly?
23:09.07xispiritojoking
23:09.21do0oblol
23:10.15Sho_scratches head
23:11.32do0obMaybe in 2-3 years, not any sooner
23:11.53xispiritobut, if your think about...have monopoly in software industry, games are an example, only for two commercials computer platforms and some consoles, consoles that uses opengl o.0
23:12.14do0obCar insurance is taking up most of my income
23:12.35do0obxbox doesn't use opengl does it?
23:12.48xispiritoi don't know about xbox, but playstation uses
23:12.58Sho_neither of them uses opengl
23:13.10xispiritoat least playstation 2
23:13.12xispiritouses
23:13.34Sho_nope
23:13.50xispiritoso, wikipedia lies to me =(
23:14.03Sho_well, it does have opengl partially available
23:14.11Sho_but games don't usually use it
23:14.27Sho_the main graphics API on the PS3 is PSGL
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23:14.53xispiritopropietary of course...?
23:15.08Sho_which is sort of derived from OpenGL ES, but with so much of Sony's own stuff you can't call it OpenGL anymore
23:15.13Sho_yep
23:15.57xispiritohum, thats clarifying
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23:17.25Sho_in fact, in some sense it's using Direct3D
23:17.43Sho_because the shader language in PSGL is derived from nVidia Cg, which was also the predecessor to D3D's HLSL
23:17.59Sho_so it's closer to D3D than to GL's GLSL
23:19.08xispiritothinking in source level, be a chaos to translate =D
23:19.11Sho_and for that matter, many engines also use LibGCM directly instead of going via PSGL ..
23:19.27Sho_very low level stuff
23:19.59xispiritois in gpu directly i think
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23:21.39xispiritoi don't have a minimal idea about how an gpu work, researching
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23:55.02kc8hfiquestion about digikam.
23:56.16kc8hfiwhen you click on import, then choose usb storage devices and then select the device,  you get a window that says images on usb disk
23:56.37kc8hfiif you right click on a file, and then choose view, nothing happens
23:57.13kc8hfiIf i remember correctly,  it would let you view the picture in its size or something liike that
23:57.19kc8hfiit don't do anything now.
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