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01:49.08pietro10Hi. How do I reset a program's "do not ask again" states when the dialog with the Do not ask again was opened with a straight KMessageBox::warningYesNoCancel? I accidentally pressed the button for the multiline edit feature in Konversation. Thanks.
01:49.29pietro10I already checked the configuraiton file and the source code; there is nothing in the source code about do not open again
01:51.16pietro10oh I see it's the string value of the second to last argument to the KMessagebox function in the standard configureion file, so in this case the LargePaste value
01:51.18pietro10thanks anwyay
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01:52.35pietro10ok that wasn't it
01:52.45pietro10so is there a way to reset this value?
01:53.52pietro10wait yes it is
01:54.03pietro10so why did it just paste right in when I set it to true
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01:55.11pietro10ok I had to actually delete that line from the configuration file, not just change false to true
01:55.12pietro10thanks anyway
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03:40.18DaZi'm thinking
03:40.43DaZis there any way to force dolphin to open archives in embedded view? :v
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08:01.14YawaGood evening
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09:43.24pcfe(F17 x86_64, KDE 4.9.2) What is the clean way to call umount from a script? Background; I use a small script to do my ssh-add for me and then umount the medium containing the keys. The eim being that I launch the script and hammer my passphrase in a terminal. If I use "gvfs-mount -u file:///media/CryptStick", then I get a dialog asking me for my user password because KDE believes the user mounting the stick and the user calling the gvfs-mount are not the same. I pre
09:43.24pcfesume there might be some KDE specific command I should rather use for umounting, no?
09:48.01lordievaderpcfe: Perhaps the umount command will work for you, keep in mind you need root for it to work.
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09:48.18pcfelordievader: no no no
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09:48.47pcfelordievader: basically I want to tell KDE that I clicked the eject button
09:49.03pcfeI do NOT want to add suid bits or the like to my wrapper script to access ssh keys
09:50.21pcfeif someone knows what gets called in the background when a user cliicks eject in the USB menu bar menu or in the file manager, that should be enough to get me on the right track
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09:51.21lordievaderpcfe: I'm sorry, unfortunately I do not know the answer to your question.
09:51.54pcfelordievader: not to worry, it is a tricky one. I'll see if at a more civilised hour someone happens to know the answer
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09:52.38lordievaderpcfe: Good luck anyhow!
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09:55.50pcfe:)
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10:21.59Torchpcfe: solid, udev and specifically udisks come to mind
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10:32.42mgnad78hey guys can someone help me out kmail doesn't work anymore ... http://sprunge.us/fHFE
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10:46.32cb400fstandard troubleshooting... try if it works for a new user.. to see if the installation is broken.. or just the user configuration
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10:48.16mgnad78cb400f ok will try it out
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13:17.25BluesKajHi all
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13:36.22safridzalWhy i cant set ctrl+windows as menu shortcut? is it just me or KDE just cant use ctrl+windows alone? >> I need to add another letter key to make it works, but..
13:36.45basslinerhi, i've created a custom shortcut to launch "konsole" with ctrl-alt-t and that works pretty well, but hitting that will not bring the newly created window to front. any help?
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13:37.10basslinersafridzal: that's because both are modifier keys.
13:37.45basslinersafridzal: think of it as you modify the behaviour of other keys with it, but it's not a finished keystroke if you hit ctrl/alt/shift/win in any combination of those 4 yet.
13:37.47safridzalwell, yes i know, but afaik, mintmenu on gnome2 can use that key combination
13:38.58basslinersafridzal: well i don't know, it could be possible to trick out the whole thing by just using another keybinding application, for example "xbindkeys" could be worth a try, along with a script (maybe python script that opens up the k-menu in some way, i don't know if dbus or something will work)
13:39.20basslinersafridzal: and yes i know that sucks.
13:39.29safridzalwow.. its kind of complicated.. lol
13:39.41basslinermy point exactly. :)
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13:40.03safridzali think i just have to adapt with it :D KDE sure is great :D
13:41.16basslineri've just created a shortcut for opening up konsole and it even works, but will not bring the window to the front. and i had to read online where in the settings to find that stuff because the configuration of bindings for kde is just a big mess, sorry for saying that but it's terrible to find something exact.
13:41.19safridzalbassliner: on your problem, i think the shorcut to "open konsole" isnt the same as "move konsole to front", we have alt+tab for it
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14:09.51rindolfHi all.
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14:37.36cloudrfkde ppl
14:37.53cloudrfanyone there, or everyone out as usual?
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14:38.58cloudrfhey thiago
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14:40.06cloudrfhey
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14:41.43mdemeyercloudrf: do you have a question?
14:42.16cloudrfno, just wanting to chat with some friends
14:42.57cloudrfnothing wrong with kde at this point.
14:43.43mdemeyerah right : )
14:44.00cloudrfso whats up
14:45.26mdemeyerWith me? finished a patch on akregator and applied for commit rights
14:45.33mdemeyeryou?
14:46.14cloudrfhmm, trying to find a way to bridge debs and rpms on a single package manager
14:47.15BluesKajjust trying out KDE on Windows . Konversation seems to work ok so far . It'd be nice if we could have virtual desktops
14:47.23mdemeyersounds rather challenging
14:47.52cloudrfright
14:48.06cloudrfit would be a good replacement for metro garbage
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14:49.12mdemeyerBluesKaj: hmm google tells me about virtuawin
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14:49.42mnicehello
14:49.43mdemeyerthere are probably others..
14:50.09mniceis there some app i could use for capturing an images from camera on notebook ? camera works all fine
14:50.19mnicei was unable to get it from mplayer
14:50.47cb400fkamoso
14:50.57mnicecb400f: servus man
14:51.00mnicethx
14:51.30mdemeyermnice: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kamoso?content=111750
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14:51.46mnicethx .. i'm already working on it
14:51.51mdemeyerah beat me to it
14:52.18mnicebut to bo honest i'm surprised that mplayer has no ability to capture a screen
14:52.21mniceseems like
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14:53.49mdemeyervlc can do that, don't know about mplayer
14:54.01mnicewell, lemme check out vlc
14:56.07mnicemdemeyer: you remember the shortcut ?
14:56.22mnicei have opened camera output in vlc
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14:58.35mdemeyerMedia > Open Capture Device
14:59.14mniceyeah .. having that already .. thx anyway
14:59.59mdemeyersure no problem. Don't know the shortcut for that
15:00.13mniceit has by default no shortcut .. at least here
15:01.01mniceoh really .. i have my files .. i was using find ~ -ctime 1 instead of -ctime 0
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15:04.44mniceis watching the final of Davis Cup Cze Vs Esp
15:05.44tsimpsonyou can use #kde-chat for, well, general chat
15:06.45mnicei don't chat much .. this is just side-effect of my attempts to capture camera output
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15:18.39AndrzejLhi guys
15:18.43AndrzejLDevice notifier
15:18.55AndrzejLit acts kinda bouncy when scrolling in it
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15:19.30AndrzejLis there a way for it to react like let's say dolphin?
15:20.13AndrzejLby bouncy I mean it looks and feels rubbery jumping up and down it looks not like bug but more like a feature
15:20.25AndrzejLso I am not complaining just asking if this could be changed
15:20.50AndrzejLanother thing is that sometimes when I removed let's say media like dvd it remembers it
15:21.02AndrzejLand it blocks another media from being recognized
15:21.05AndrzejLkde 4.9.2
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15:22.30AndrzejLalso in dolphin sometimes when I am pressing UP arrow button it goes to the 1 step up folder and then for a few seconds it goes back to the folder that I was just in and it kinda freezes and then it jumps back to the parent folder
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15:23.40AndrzejLit just displays the content of the folder that I just left from
15:24.00AndrzejLand it's not regular thing it happens once every blue moon
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15:33.29Nahledgemy avi keep opening with movie player by default. i want it to be vlc. i tried going to the file permissions section in system settings but there is no .avi filetype listed.
15:33.41Nahledgei tried creating the filtyp in the menu there, and it still did nothing
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15:41.41AndrzejLhmmm
15:41.46AndrzejLhe went away ;)
15:41.59AndrzejLno patience...
15:42.56AndrzejLAh something new I discovered
15:43.09thiagothat people have no patience?
15:43.38BluesKajinstant gratification
15:43.39AndrzejLDevice notifier remembers the DVD as long as do not close Dolphin even tho dolphin is not displaying content of the dvd
15:44.12AndrzejLso it's dolphin that's causing the bug in the device notifier
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15:44.18AndrzejLHeh ;)
15:44.52AndrzejLAnd I have to be honest
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15:45.10AndrzejLI have finally got over the Device section in Dolphin and I find it ok now...
15:45.29AndrzejLI know... I was complaining at first - but now I kind of enjoy it
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15:45.48AndrzejLbut it took me a longer while to get there...
15:46.04AndrzejLthink I am conservative and I have trouble with letting go and adjusting to new features...
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16:23.52invariantHow do I set the size of a widget on a panel?
16:24.39Torchthey automatically resize to take up as much space as they need
16:25.05invariantTorch, that's not true.
16:25.20Torchthen accept my apologies for not knowing better and still speaking up ;-)
16:25.22invariantTorch, it might that that is what it is supposed to do, which is a completely different thing.
16:25.40Sho_Which widget?
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16:25.47invariantSho_, systray
16:26.17invariantThe ikontask toolbar also doesn't listen to its specification.
16:26.25invariantI configured it to have one row.
16:26.27Sho_invariant: No way afaik ... if your intention is to get additional icons to show, they're not hidden because of space reasons; check the config dialog to set the visibility settings per-icon
16:26.43invariantYet, I am seeing two columns.
16:28.17Sho_Torch: How'd you end up liking Sounds That Can't Be Made?
16:28.46invariantI am seeing something similar to this http://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=75314
16:29.33invariantSpeaking of bugs, the network monitor applet also doesn't autoresize correctly.
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16:30.31invariantWhile auto-resizing would be a nice feature to have, I would prefer being able to set maximum bounds.
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16:46.02Justiceanyone knows what kind of mouse theme this is = https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2137335/steamMouse.png ?
16:46.32Justicelooks like its some old xorg theme
16:47.52Torchlooks like twm a bit
16:49.19Justicefor some reason "steam" triggers this mouse
16:49.30Justiceand now it appears for all rightclick commands of gtk applications in my kde
16:49.35Justicei have no idea why...
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16:58.18bast1aanhi
16:58.27bast1aansomeone knows where Attica is needed for?
16:58.41bast1aandon't get it compiled on my system.
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17:30.00TaokiI just found a pretty big issue in KDE, which IMO should be fixed. Apparently, changing the desktop theme will automatically resize some widgets... even when the desktop is locked. It ruined the positioning of some of my elements
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17:30.27TaokiThis is very wrong... changing the theme should not be allowed to do anything thant reteqrue elements. Please fix this, it ruins the configuration of plasmoids on the desktop
17:30.36Taoki**retexture
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17:35.25TaokiIt also appears that with a Folder View desktop, changing the theme can re-arrange your icons. This makes no sense... why is changint the theme allowed to mess with everything related to the desktop :(
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17:36.21Nahledgekde crashed now i only have firefox open, nothing else is visibile.
17:36.24Nahledgeblack screen
17:36.26Nahledgenowhere to go
17:36.27Nahledgestuck
17:37.33TaokiNahledge: Press alt + f2. In the launcher at the top of the screen, write plasma-desktop and press enter
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17:39.33NahledgeTaoki, it just says it closed unexpectedly or something like that, basically it crashes. can i turn off the computer safely from here?
17:40.00TaokiNahledge: Restart, that should fix it. But before you do that, close firefox... if needed by killing its process
17:40.10TaokiActually, just close FF and try again. If it still crashes restart
17:40.12TaokiAnd,
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17:40.55TaokiIf it still crashes after that, log in as root and remale your user/.kde and user/.kde4 folders. DO NOT DELETE the old ones, just move them somewhere else and see if a new config fixes anything.
17:41.05Taoki**remake
17:42.12Taokigot to go, later
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18:34.54teddyp1ckerhi all
18:36.35teddyp1ckerdoes anyone experiencing lags with moving windows (opengl effects enabled) on kde 4.8
18:36.53teddyp1ckerbinary driver r310 installed with nvidia gt640
18:37.09teddyp1ckerkernel version is 3.2 kubuntu 11.0
18:37.10teddyp1cker?
18:38.33cb400fwhat effects do are in play when moving windows?
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18:38.49cb400ftransparency.. blur.. wobbly?
18:38.53cb400f.. turn some of them off
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18:39.30teddyp1ckercb400f: transp., blur
18:39.31cb400ftransparency and blur are well known to be the most resource hungry ones
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18:40.19teddyp1ckerturning of these effects sounds like "to remove ubuntu and install windows"
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18:40.33teddyp1ckerthat doesn't fix my problem)
18:40.50cb400fare you using the default oxygen windeco?
18:40.56teddyp1ckeryep
18:41.21cb400fthere's no fix for your problem unless you have access to nvidia driver source code
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18:41.49cb400fbut both kwin and nvidia blob should have significant improvements in latest versions
18:42.57teddyp1ckercb400f: i hope so
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18:44.04teddyp1ckercb400f: i thought that kwin does'nt nned many resources to draw shadows with moving windows
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18:44.40cb400fblur does.. transparency did too but should be fixed.. but mostly it's not an issue of computing power, but an issue of gfx driver buggyness
18:45.36cb400fso you have the choice between going crazy and turning off the effects that are non-smooth with your particular driver+card combination
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18:45.49cb400f.. no matter what card+driver combo is used _something_ will suck
18:46.30cb400fyou could try if just turning off oxygen animations in 'oxygen-settings' fixes it for you
18:46.59cb400fwhen I was using nvidia oxygen animations were extremely slow.. but I'm not sure if any of them are activated when moving windows
18:48.16cb400fhttp://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/09/performance-improvements-in-kwin-4-9-2-and-4-10/
18:48.43teddyp1ckeri think that guy knows more about kwin + nvidia bug : http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog
18:48.46teddyp1cker))
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18:51.13cb400f"that guy" prolly knows all there is to know about kwin ;-)
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20:48.04IEatKawfishI'd like to checkout an old kde 3.5 project from subversion. Currently navigating the web-svn but I'd perfer just to do a real checkout. Can anyone tell me the url path and revision number or how to get them? Thanks.
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20:58.28ompaulIEatKawfish: you know you were nearly there, if you were on the kde site  http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Sources/Subversion#Checking_out_KDE_3_instead
21:02.07IEatKawfishompaul, thanks that is exactly what I need.
21:03.42ompaulIEatKawfish: strongly suggest you work on your search engine foo, if you are about to do what I think you want to do you are going to need to search and hit mail archives a lot and they can be pigs to hand you back the data you need
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21:09.20IEatKawfishmy google foo is not all that bad, but my brain checks out on saturday afternoons. I didn't consider using google or think to check for a 3.5 branch.
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21:10.29ompaulhahaha
21:10.34ompaulenjoy :)
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23:12.57einseenaihello, guys, kmail keeps asking imap password everytime on startup, though i chose to store password separately (not using kwallet). is it normal and how can i fix it?
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23:31.41thiagoeinseenai: it's normal. The only way it'll use a stored password is if it comes from kwallet.
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23:32.48einseenaithiago, thanks a lot! but why? i mean, why even offer to store or not the password if kwallet is disabled?
23:34.45thiagobecause it doesn't know whether it is disabled
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23:38.16einseenaithiago, ok, i thought it's some akonadi issue. how can i re-enable kwallet? don't see it in menu somehow.
23:48.38einseenaithiago, oops, found out - needed to install additional package. though thought is already in since it offered itself on first login.
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