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| 12:52.09 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
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| 13:47.52 | Zepp | hey there i have a problem with opera, if i disable kwin desktp effects the whole interface is all crazy bugged out... no problems when desktop effects are enabled though... using opera 12.11 and kde 4.9.3, any ideas? |
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| 13:55.26 | FedericoVaga | No problem here with Opera 12.11 and KDE 4.9.3 (Fedora 17) |
| 13:55.43 | FedericoVaga | with or without desktop effect |
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| 13:56.50 | Zepp | hmm i am on arch |
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| 14:00.39 | FedericoVaga | more information. I'm on an Nvidia GPU with Nvidia driver (not nouveau) |
| 14:01.14 | FedericoVaga | I hope this could help you to find the problem |
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| 14:07.27 | Zepp | yeah i think its propably an issue with my ati graphics card |
| 14:08.00 | Zepp | it seems to work with nvidia cards... |
| 14:08.58 | FedericoVaga | I have an ati cards with open driver ... I upgrade my Opera and I'll tell you if it works |
| 14:09.24 | Zepp | yeah ive got the catalyst driver ... |
| 14:09.43 | Zepp | plz that would be nice |
| 14:10.50 | FedericoVaga | I don't use Catalyst because does not work on my A6 processor |
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| 14:13.12 | Zepp | ok thank you... maybe i'll try out rekonq then, it looks quite nice :) |
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| 14:15.52 | FedericoVaga | Opera 12.11 on KDE 4.9.3, Fedora 17 with open driver for ATI cards ..... it works, with or without effects |
| 14:16.07 | BluesKaj | I have something odd ...the "open with" dialog option no longer lists any choice when trying to open a text file ...kate is missing from the the list, and choosing kate in the open dialog contains no "always open with..." option |
| 14:17.44 | Zepp | FedericoVaga: thanks for the test! maybe i'll try the open source driver then |
| 14:18.50 | Zepp | BluesKaj: i think you can add kate in the system settings->file associations->text as the default "open with" option? |
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| 14:21.50 | BluesKaj | Zepp, I forgot to mention that this is in a different pc on our network , maybe I should ssh -X into it setup the default editor |
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| 15:18.09 | Almtesh2 | Bonjour tout le monde ! |
| 15:18.27 | Almtesh2 | I have a trouble when unmounting filesystem on kde. |
| 15:18.55 | Almtesh2 | Anybody knows how to stop nepomuk on removable devices? |
| 15:19.47 | Almtesh2 | Sorry, I coem back in a jiffy. |
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| 15:21.27 | Almtesh | Hum, anybody has this trouble. |
| 15:21.58 | Almtesh | Every time, I must umount manually and lazylly the filestystems.. |
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| 15:23.20 | Almtesh | That is to say, with the option -l. |
| 15:23.33 | neverendingo | Almtesh: it is a config switch in system settings -> desktop search, like "ignore removable devices" |
| 15:24.06 | Almtesh | neverendingo, checked! |
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| 15:25.07 | Jucato | is the removable device a USB or an external hard drive? |
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| 15:25.48 | Jucato | I mean usb flash drive or an external hard drive? |
| 15:25.56 | Almtesh | Jucato, both. |
| 15:26.14 | Almtesh | I even have the problem with nfs mounts. |
| 15:26.40 | Jucato | I only get that problem with external hard drives actually. as if nepomuk doesn't consider it as a removable drive and indexes it like a regular drive |
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| 15:27.06 | Almtesh | Jucato, actually, I configured nepomuk to index only my home. |
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| 15:27.31 | Almtesh | But, it indexes the whole filestystem, detection instantly new mounts. |
| 15:27.37 | Jucato | same here. don't really know what's up |
| 15:28.05 | Jucato | but at least for me it only happens with external drives. not usb flash drives. never tried nfs mounts though |
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| 15:43.35 | bjackman | hi there - could anyone tell me the DBus "bus name" for the kde notification system? I would expect it to be "org.freedesktop.knotify" but i can't see it in there |
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| 15:45.36 | Jucato | org.kde.knotify, although I think org.freedesktop.Notifications works as well (tip: "qdbus" lists the available entries, which you can grep, and qdbusviewer lets you browse graphically. those are I think installed by default with Qt) |
| 15:47.45 | bjackman | Jucato: ah, thanks, I can see it now. So i was trying to find it by calling org.freedesktop.DBus.ListActiveableNames, but it wasn't in there. Do you know why that would be? |
| 15:48.40 | Jucato | don't really know. I'm not much of a dbus expert. |
| 15:49.31 | bjackman | ok thanks! |
| 15:50.15 | Jucato | oh, it's ListActivatableNames, not ListActiveableNames |
| 15:50.29 | Jucato | "qdbus org.freedesktop.DBus / ListActivatableNames" works |
| 15:51.00 | Jucato | (qdbus is convenience utility for making dbus calls) |
| 15:51.00 | bjackman | no that was just because i typo'd in into konversation (dont know why i didnt copy paste) |
| 15:51.08 | bjackman | but i think it is because Knotify is not "activeable" |
| 15:51.19 | bjackman | I can send it messages but i can't launch it |
| 15:51.20 | Jucato | ah |
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| 15:51.49 | bjackman | I guess anyway, but then I'm not sure how I'd use org.freedesktop.DBus to find out who i can send messages to.. |
| 15:51.55 | bjackman | need to read more |
| 15:51.56 | bjackman | ! |
| 15:52.10 | Jucato | "qdbus org.freedesktop.DBus / ListActivatableNames | grep -i notif" returns "org.kde.knotify" here |
| 15:53.39 | bjackman | yeah it does for me too.. how strange.. |
| 15:53.56 | bjackman | the command i was using is this: |
| 15:54.10 | bjackman | dbus-send --system --print-reply --reply-timeout=2000 --type=method_call --dest=org.freedesktop.DBus /org/freedesktop/DBus org.freedesktop.DBus.ListActivatableNames | grep noti |
| 15:54.25 | bjackman | which i assume would be analogous |
| 15:55.00 | Jucato | remove --system and it shows knotify |
| 15:55.10 | bjackman | ahhhh that's the one! thanks! |
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| 15:55.32 | Jucato | also, I would suggest using grep -i |
| 15:56.05 | bjackman | ah yeah thats a good call |
| 15:56.40 | bjackman | i would have looked very silly if it was KNotify and thats why i hadnt found it |
| 15:57.30 | Jucato | heh |
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| 15:59.33 | Jucato | alright, if there isn't anything else, I'm gonna head for bed |
| 16:01.05 | bjackman | ok trhanks for your help"! |
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| 16:04.46 | bassliner | hi, is it possible to automatically align desktop icons (or at least manually align them at all)? |
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| 16:08.30 | AciD` | bassliner: yes, it should be automatic when using folder view |
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| 16:28.11 | ezakimak | is there a way to conditionally force a window to always be on top of the panel? what I want, is for when konsole has focus, the panel can *never* popup on top of it (eg when a notification comes up) |
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| 16:29.19 | ezakimak | eg when a ff download finishes, the ff button flashes in the panel, and causes the panel to unhide, covering where I'm trying to type in konsole |
| 16:29.30 | ezakimak | highly annoying |
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| 16:31.57 | bassliner | AciD`: what you mean by "folder view" in that context? |
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| 16:35.47 | AciD` | bassliner: in kde, you can configure the way your desktop is shown |
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| 16:36.11 | bassliner | AciD`: could it be that i installed a minimal set of applications when installing kde? |
| 16:36.36 | AciD` | bassliner: I don't know the exact terms in english, but you can found those different layout option in "display" option (where you configure your desktop wallpaper) |
| 16:36.37 | bassliner | AciD`: and that because of this i don't have the possibility to choose this? e.g. there is a 2nd "way" of showing them, in that case via a plasma applet or so? |
| 16:36.59 | AciD` | bassliner: which version of kde do you use ? |
| 16:37.17 | bassliner | AciD`: ok i don't have something like this there. but thank you. |
| 16:38.18 | AciD` | bassliner: on your desktop, just use the keyboard shortcut alt+d, alt+s |
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| 18:12.16 | patkoscsaba | I just installed Kontact |
| 18:12.32 | patkoscsaba | and when I start it, it just shows summary and I can not set up anything |
| 18:12.41 | patkoscsaba | I made sure and enabled Nepomuk and Akonady |
| 18:13.05 | patkoscsaba | and I also added my google account to Akonadi |
| 18:13.05 | patkoscsaba | any idea what can be wrong here? |
| 18:13.46 | Torch | what happens when you run e.g. kmail on its own? |
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| 18:16.28 | patkoscsaba | kmail is not installed |
| 18:16.36 | patkoscsaba | I just want calendar and contaxt |
| 18:16.39 | patkoscsaba | *contacts |
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| 18:17.07 | Torch | you guessed the next question ;-) what happens when you run korganizer on its own? |
| 18:17.21 | patkoscsaba | Torch... let's see |
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| 18:19.01 | patkoscsaba | this seems to show my google stuff |
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| 18:20.50 | patkoscsaba | korganizer seems to work nicely with whatever I have in my google calendar |
| 18:20.55 | notze_ | hi |
| 18:21.06 | notze_ | i hav a question regarding kde and multi monitors |
| 18:21.17 | Torch | notze_: the same you jusk asked on #kubuntu? |
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| 18:21.24 | notze_ | yes |
| 18:21.28 | notze_ | since its dead there |
| 18:21.30 | Torch | notze_: please don't do that |
| 18:21.45 | Torch | notze_: i read you there and many others did and will |
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| 18:22.16 | notze_ | i hope so |
| 18:22.33 | notze_ | and if i write it here even more will get it to know |
| 18:22.41 | Torch | notze_: it will get you ignored |
| 18:22.41 | notze_ | and maybe theres a solution |
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| 18:24.56 | notze_ | so then tell me whats the right channel to ask |
| 18:25.01 | notze_ | kubuntu or kde |
| 18:25.10 | notze_ | just bcs you're in both |
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| 18:30.09 | *** topic/#kde by neverendingo -> KDE SC 4.10 Beta1 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 19:02.36 | mac^^^ | I'm in fedora 17 using google chrome and kdewallet keeps popping up too frequently |
| 19:03.14 | mac^^^ | maybe thats a google chrome issue |
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| 19:54.03 | AciD` | since 4.9.3, functions keys behave oddly on my toshiba portege r830 ; sleep mute sound the first time I use it, it goes to sleep the following times. Mute goes to sleep the first time I use it, it mutes the following times. sometimes volume down take the bahavior of sleep too. It's kinda crazy. Is that a know bug ? |
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| 21:05.15 | jthomas__ | Where are KDE's keyboard shortcuts stored? I created a few for an old profile (I have that backed up), bt I want to copy them to my new profile |
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| 21:10.14 | jthomas__ | ~/.kde/share/config/khotkeysrc |
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| 21:29.42 | jthomas__ | arg, but my new creations aren't functioning. |
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| 22:02.44 | WillPittenger | I'm trying to compile kdeartwork on Lunar Linux (a source based distro). It's complaining it can't find kscreensaver.h. My Google search, https://www.google.com/search?q=%22kscreensaver.h%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a, suggests that header is associated with libkscreensaver. This is a VM and doesn't need a screen saver as that is provided by the... |
| 22:02.46 | WillPittenger | ...host. But I want kdeartwork to compile. Any ideas? |
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| 22:09.28 | salamanderrake | how can i get the kde digital clock to use the system clock. everytime i reboot the time is messed up. |
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| 22:14.58 | mdemeyer | salamanderrake: have you recently switched to systemd? |
| 22:15.27 | salamanderrake | let me check. |
| 22:15.45 | salamanderrake | no |
| 22:17.06 | salamanderrake | I use openrc |
| 22:17.23 | salamanderrake | I also use both ntpd and ntp-client. |
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| 22:19.55 | mdemeyer | hmmm don't have any experience with that, sorry |
| 22:20.26 | mdemeyer | Perhaps ask in your distro channel. |
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| 22:22.53 | xdever | hello! I have a problem using KDE 4.9.3. Sometimes, when I log in, the brightnes indicator shows up (it always shows up after login) and the whole plasma hangs for about 15 seconds |
| 22:23.05 | xdever | can You help me how can I debug this? |
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| 22:24.42 | kde_pepo | Those are separate issues. Regarding the hang, it is probably caused by something blocking kded4. |
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| 22:26.18 | xdever | I doesn't know is it normal that the brightness indicator shows up. It's not annoying useless the whole plasma hangs. |
| 22:26.28 | xdever | top shows nothing eating up CPU |
| 22:26.30 | xdever | nor ram |
| 22:27.06 | mdemeyer | xdever: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302130 |
| 22:27.11 | xdever | I tried removing .kde4 config folder, but it doesn't helps |
| 22:27.18 | mdemeyer | the hang is indeed something else |
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| 22:29.35 | xdever | Is there a log, or anything that can help in debugging? At least where to start? |
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| 22:31.08 | xdever | another thing: if I put application shorcuts on desktop, then I can run them. So not the whole kde is hanged |
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| 22:49.22 | cardamon | Hi. |
| 22:49.38 | WillPittenger | Sigh. No response. |
| 22:49.56 | cardamon | What's the query? |
| 22:50.04 | WillPittenger | I'm trying to compile kdeartwork on Lunar Linux (a source based distro). It's complaining it can't find kscreensaver.h. My Google search, https://www.google.com/search?q=%22kscreensaver.h%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a, suggests that header is associated with libkscreensaver. This is a VM and doesn't need a screen saver as that is provided by the... |
| 22:50.06 | WillPittenger | ...host. But I want kdeartwork to compile. Any ideas? |
| 22:51.30 | mdemeyer | WillPittenger: compile libkscreensaver even if you don't use it |
| 22:51.49 | mdemeyer | or remove it from the CMakeLists.txt file |
| 22:51.56 | WillPittenger | It isn't listed in Lunar's module list (called moonbase). |
| 22:52.55 | mdemeyer | compile it yourself |
| 22:53.26 | mdemeyer | if that is a possibility |
| 22:53.41 | WillPittenger | Not yet with my skill level. |
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| 22:53.59 | mdemeyer | don't use source based distros (but most my apps are compiled by me) |
| 22:54.01 | cardamon | Well, my first recommendation is to leave source-based for package-based. The advantages are minimal and benefits are that you don't have to worry about stuff like this. |
| 22:54.34 | mdemeyer | *I don't use |
| 22:54.42 | cardamon | Not to say that there aren't edge cases. |
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| 22:56.32 | mdemeyer | happy to help.. |
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| 23:01.23 | cardamon | Hmm, KDE's uri handler keeps opening two tabs in a new instance of iceweasel. |
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| 23:14.41 | cardamon | Apper keeps alerting me to updates on Debian. I manage all that myself. Any idea how to disable it? |
| 23:15.18 | cardamon | I already setting "Check for updates" to never. |
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