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00:26.20dtcrshrI have recently installed kde, and on the botton bar  I have: the K starter icon, a desktop changer, dolphin and konqueror. I want to delete konqueror icon, and put firefox over it, couldnt find how to do it
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00:28.08JLPdtcrshr: just drag and drop from starter menu, and for removal just right-click on icon and choose to remove it
00:29.15JLPdtcrshr: oh and you might need to unlock the widgets before doing so (right click on the desktop or panel to get the option )
00:30.13dtcrshrI deleted the konqueror ok, but i cant drag firefox down
00:30.47dtcrshrok
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00:33.20dtcrshrwell, If i drag from the desktop shortcut, the favorites or even going to internet/ firefox, i get a forbidden sign draging it to the bar
00:33.29dtcrshrall widgets are unblocked
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00:36.03JLPdtcrshr: you have to be quite accurate to hit just between two other widgets in the panel, i.e. a pixel or two between starter widget and taskbar widget
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00:39.44dtcrshrok, iv managed to get firefox to the menu, but it have the desktop changer icon between dolphin  and firefox, and i cant move it. If I try to move dolphin to the left, i got an error: kioexec, klauncher said: unknown protocol 'preferred'
00:40.58JLPdtcrshr: to make movin easier you can click on that toolbox icon on the far right that appeared when you unlocked widgets
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00:41.44JLPdtcrshr: then when you move mous over the widgets it overlays them with the move icon and so you can just drag and move the widgets to arrange them
00:50.10dtcrshrthanks JLP !
00:51.03JLPdtcrshr: no problem, glad to help
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00:53.18ovidiu-florinhello, I'm just wokdering, how's the Romanian KDE comunity? does it still exist? From what I've seen on the romanian kde site it's pretty outdated.
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02:28.55b4283hi, i have a question about kde's builtin MTP functionality
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02:29.41b4283my phone is Samsung Galaxy Ace2, when i plug it in, kde notifies me immediately that there's a phone
02:30.32b4283opening the device with Dolphin, i could see all the directories but no files in it, but in fact there are.
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02:31.17b4283i think it's a bug because i could successfully access files with jmtpfs or go-mtpfs on another linux box
02:32.53b4283now i want to simply use go-mtpfs but there's problem, it seems that kde's removable device manager always take precedence of the resource before i could mount it manually, how do i turn it off?
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03:09.33milo64hey all
03:09.35milo64all!
03:09.37milo64:P
03:10.00milo64About the virtual workspace...
03:10.44milo64When I switch from the first workspace to the second one... how can I hide all the applications of the first workspace on the application bar?
03:11.08milo64because i use workspace to clear out the mess.
03:11.15Jucatoright-click on an empty space -> Task Manager Settings -> [ ]  Only show tasks from the current desktop
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03:11.37Jucatoactually you can also right click on any window title in the panel and you'll see Task Manager Settings there too
03:13.22cardamonWorking on making firefox play nice with KDE.  I don't think it likes the dark color styles I like.
03:13.26milo64Jucato, thx
03:13.37cardamonSome of the textfields are dark on dark or light on light.
03:13.55Jucatocardamon: my problem as well
03:13.58cardamons/firefox/iceweasel/
03:18.30Jucatopractically the same thing. iirc iceweasel is still the same codebase only with non-free branding removed. that wouldn't change behavior, or bugs :)
03:20.22cardamonI'm aware.
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05:19.09cardamonops?
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05:20.38user48banned daw?
05:20.40user44naa na gor????
05:20.42Guest88191joseph buang
05:20.47user48kinsa ka?
05:20.47user44di ma change aq namr
05:20.49user48ahgaha
05:20.56user48ako pd  d machange
05:21.02user48froilan pisot
05:21.04user44nanu mani
05:21.06user48patuli hoy
05:21.15user44unsaon pag change sa name
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05:21.16user48jing2x!!!!!!!
05:21.23user44hoi guest
05:21.24user48d man change oi
05:21.25Guest88191i love you jing
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05:21.34user48atatds
05:21.34user44dili jud ma change
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05:21.47user44hahha same rata gor 48
05:22.01user48hahah
05:22.07user44unsaon mani
05:22.16user48unsa ka nga user?44?
05:22.19user48kinsa man ng guest???
05:22.27user48bayot man na oi!
05:22.31Guest88191love you jing
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05:22.35user48tulion nko na ug utro ron
05:22.40user44hahha wat number c jing2?
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05:22.46user44cotchie ir
05:22.48user44:P
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05:23.55user22kamo no!!!!!
05:24.00user48patuli jing
05:24.09user22pag tarong dra froi..
05:24.15Guest88191hehehehe
05:24.17user22ha.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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05:24.50user48bayot user 22
05:24.52Guest88191ok rka gabie jing
05:25.02user48d ra sakit imoa sampot jing?
05:25.09user48gi almuranas man daw ka
05:25.15Guest88191nalumoy jud ko tungod nmo gabie
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05:25.27user22ahak mana oi knxa man gd ka...
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05:25.30Guest88191grabe kaau ka harsh kaau
05:25.43user22pag tarong dra joseph ha...
05:25.50thiagoany chance you could stop with the cloning of nicks? Please speak English.
05:26.03user22hoy pag xure dra froilan..
05:26.04user15asd
05:26.17user22basig nakulangan rka ug tulog kgabie.
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05:26.42user15hola
05:26.49user45hoi naa c sir sa inyung likod..
05:27.04thiagoEnglish please.
05:27.05user45lingi raba ka
05:27.10thiagoremove your clones from the channel.
05:27.15cardamonthiago: Don't feed the troll.
05:27.23user45ay lage lingi
05:27.28user48english here sir
05:27.29thiagocardamon: I need to ask politely before involving freenode staff
05:27.35user48sorry for the inconvenience
05:27.49user45ging2 gapa
05:27.50user22:)
05:27.53user48how to change my name?
05:27.55Guest88191nkulangan jud ko tulog gabie jing kay harsh kaau ka
05:28.19user45ging2 gapa
05:28.21user45ging2 gapa
05:28.27cardamonFive minutes of spam is beyond the need for politeness, I would think. Mind you, my view is clear, his mask is already ignored.
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05:28.47thiagocardamon: to be honest, I couldn't be sure that wasn't a real language
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05:29.00thiagoidoru: thanks
05:29.07thiagoidoru: it was the same IP last night too, btw
05:29.42cardamonHeh, I don't see the ban-kicks either with his netmask ignored.
05:29.44thiagoI've already contacted the group contact too about more ops on this timezone
05:29.51thiagocardamon: he got k-lined
05:29.58cardamonI figured.
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05:33.01Jucatooh sorry
05:33.09JucatoI was afk for a while :(
05:33.40Jucatoyes, I'm supposed to be on guard duty :(
05:34.20thiagowouldn't hurt to have a backup
05:35.45Jucatoyeah
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06:14.37Jucatotroy: need more. to combat this summer heat
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06:18.07troywas -30C here this morning :D
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06:21.08Jucato32C here. luckily a bit windy so not that hot. but still humid >.<
06:23.09troyto be honest, I prefer -30C :D
06:23.16troywhen it's cold, you can always add more clothing
06:23.27troywhen it's hot; you can't keep taking clothing off :D
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06:36.39reactormonkany nice sources on kwin and tiling?
06:37.06reactormonkare the kwin config files writeable by hand? I'm not sure if I feel like klicking all around
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07:48.11DaZevery config is writeably by hand
07:48.30DaZyou can also use kwriteconfig :v
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09:36.46Leoneofhi, how to make firefox, gimp to use KDE theme?
09:37.21siavashserverLeoneof: You need to install oxygen-gtk themes
09:38.12Leoneofsiavashserver: gtk3-engines-oxygen ?
09:38.36hateballwhistles something about Krita and Chromium/reKonq ;D
09:38.57hateballYou'd want gtk2 most likely
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09:39.12hateballnot that having both will hurt
09:39.15Leoneofhateball: but gtk3 is ok? or i have to install gtk2 too?
09:39.20Leoneofok
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09:39.24siavashserverLeoneof: Probably. In ArchLinux they are named oxygen-gtk2 and oxygen-gtk3. You will also need to install lxappearance to change gtk themes.
09:39.38Xenosomething like oxygen-gtk{1,2,3}
09:39.41Leoneofi'm using Debian 7 (wheezy)
09:39.53Leoneofthanks
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09:40.47Jucatonot necessarily @ lxappearance. the gtk-oxygen stuff usually includes a System Settings module that lets you change GTK themes. not so sure in Debian though. it comes default in fedora.
09:43.13tarablakde 4.9.3 on Archlinux (kernel 3.6.6): Some error popups shows during logoff; its title is something like "Fetch job error" (too small and not resizable to be more specific) followed by another one without title but text "Unknown error"
09:43.48tarablaI tried to search in logs but found nothing
09:43.50Leoneofok, no options about gtk settings in systemsettings
09:44.47siavashserverLeoneof: Install lxappearance (won't be listed in system settings)
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09:45.14Leoneofsiavashserver: i've seen gtk settings before :/
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09:45.30Jucatotry to see if you have a package named kcm-gtk
09:45.31Leoneofin Application Appearance
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09:45.58bleomycinanyone know how to stop kde from opening new windows in completely random places using twinview on multiple monitors?
09:46.14siavashserverLeoneof: There is an option to force gtk applications to use current kde theme colorset (tooltips etc), don't touch that.
09:46.18tarablaWhere I should investigate? (googling I found topics related to kde-pim and akonadi but I just do not use these features)
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09:48.02Leoneofsiavashserver: ok
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09:49.20Leoneofnow i can see gtk configuration :D
09:51.19Leoneofgreat, looks like native app, thanks folks!
09:52.14siavashserverYou are welcome.
09:52.26Xenobtw for firefox, theres foxygen-firefox theme
09:52.30Leoneofjus curious question, are you using taskbar like Windows7 ? :D
09:52.41Xeno*ogygen-firefox
09:52.45LeoneofXeno: yeah, i have seen it, will try to install
09:52.51Xenonope, daisy plasmoid in dock mode
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09:53.17milo64i forgot the answer.....
09:53.21Leoneoflol
09:53.31milo64of
09:54.31milo64when i switch workspace, how can i get rid of the apps from the first workspace shown on the taskbar on the second workspace?
09:55.27Xenodepends on taskmanager plasmoid, but there should be options to show tasks from current activity/desktop
09:55.32siavashservermilo64: Task Manager Settings >> check Only show tasks from the current desktop.
09:56.17milo64yeah, works, thanks
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10:17.25TomyLaptophi
10:17.46TomyLaptopi'm on a laptop but there's no battery indicator in kde. how can i enable it?
10:18.15Xenoin systemtray settings
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10:19.37TomyLaptopalt-f2 -> system tray gave me a window with the indicator
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10:19.38Xenofirst category ("display"? sorry don't know what's it's name in english)
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10:19.55TomyLaptopthat's a start. how do i get it into the tray? :)
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10:20.49Xenois tray present on the panel?
10:21.19Xenoif yest, then rightclick and select settings:System Tray"
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10:26.03TomyLaptopok, found it, thanks Xeno
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10:27.26TomyLaptopcharging, bye :)
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10:30.58rindolfOK, Mageia upgraded to KDE-4.9.80 and with it comes the usual slew of breakages.
10:31.09rindolfAnd I seem to have two versions of kdebase4-workspace .
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10:39.32drdanzseaLne: thanks!
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11:16.13allonHi Everybody, I have some questions about plasma components settings in order to compile the ktouch program under qt creator
11:16.30allonTo which channel should I go to ask this question?
11:16.39allonthanks in advance for your answer
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11:24.22quentinI have just upgraded from 4.8 to 4.9 and lost my desktop widgets.
11:25.27quentinhowever, they still seem to be active since they are marked running when I try to add them again, but I don't see them on my desktop (clock, folder view, notes, ...)
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11:29.18Xenomaybe uou're running different activity?
11:29.25quentinwell, it seems I hqve no qctivity running...
11:29.41quentinthere is no default activity running and I cannot create a new one
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11:31.27Xenodid you try it on new user
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11:31.41Xenomaybe thre's some plasmoid that makes plasma crash
11:31.47quentinXeno, is it possible to reset the activity settings without losing the notes I have on the post-it widget?
11:31.50XenoI had siomilar situation with daisy
11:32.25quentinXeno, I will try with a new user...
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11:32.46Xenoif new user will work
11:33.15Xenogood question where notes plasmoid holds it's data
11:33.42Xenousually copy-pase some files, parts of the file should be good enough
11:34.06Xenolet's see where it could be
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11:37.50quentinXeno, q new user creates 3 default activities and a folder-view desktop mode. If I switch the desktop view to the standard view, the desktop space will be empty
11:38.20quentinlike with my current user, I can add plasmoids but I cannot create a new activity
11:38.26Xenobut at least you have actvities
11:38.42Xenoit seems something is scrashing plasma on your user
11:38.47quentinyes and no, I cannot add new ones
11:39.03Xenowhat widgets you had on your desktop?
11:39.19quentinfolder view, analog clock and notes
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11:39.37quentincurrently still running but not visible
11:40.05Xenowhich task manager? default one
11:40.07Xeno?
11:40.15quentinyes, default
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11:40.25Xenohmm
11:40.42Xenoi''m trying to find out where plasmoids store their data
11:41.04Xenoso maybe we ca recover notes, reset config and put onotes back
11:41.05quentinI mean the "standard layout" (not especially default)
11:41.17quentinXeno, it would be great
11:41.26Xenobtw, that's why I use akonadi notes plasmoid
11:41.41Xenoso accidential removal of widget causes no data loss
11:41.43quentinI might give it a try...
11:43.40quentinI have it, it is the plasma-addon-appletsrc file
11:44.11quentinnow, which files should I remove to reset exactly my plasma desktop and not more?
11:44.15Xenocool, copy the file, reset configs then paste your notes once again
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11:45.45Xenoactually you might try to rename /home/Xeno/.kde/share/apps/plasma-desktop/activities
11:45.59Xenomaybe one of them got corrupted
11:46.26Xenoand i really recommend akonotes plasmoid for important notes
11:46.51Xenopersistency is good in that case ;)
11:47.04Xenowith being able to edit them in kontact as a bonus
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11:50.31quentinXeno, I don't have a plasma-desktop folder
11:50.54quentinbut an activity-manager one, with a database inside
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11:54.47Xenoand in other plasma* dirs?
11:54.57Xenoit's place where activites are stored
11:57.41quentinok, I did not find anything that really looked like an impressive config file but I have deleted every *plasma* in ~/.kde4
11:58.30quentinI am currently running a distro update, so I cannot test it now. I will come back to you later with the results. Thanks for your help, Xeno
11:58.57Xenonprob, u're welcome
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12:34.53allonHi again
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12:35.25allonCould somebody help me with my plasma c++ compilation problem?
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12:38.08mdemeyerallon: #plasma
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12:39.50allonthanks a lot :)
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13:19.08AristideHi !
13:19.16AristideI don't find how use « tag » KIO Slave :x
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13:20.10AristideWhen I type tags:/test, Konqueror is launched on this website : http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/22/plasma-desktopKR1549.png
13:20.53msxAristide: try double slash, like //
13:20.58AristideOk
13:21.12AristideSame problem msx
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13:21.51msx:P  i'm away any kde right now, sorry
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13:23.13AristideNo problems :)
13:23.58Jucatowhat version are you using?
13:25.38AristideJucato: KDE 4.9.80
13:25.43AristideRelease 2
13:27.05AristideoO' OMG 14:27 ... I must qui i back later !
13:27.08Aristide++
13:27.12Aristide*quit
13:27.13AristideI*
13:27.21Aristide[out]Sorry
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13:50.22BluesKajHey all
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13:54.36buxhi all
13:54.39buxusing tcsh
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13:54.39safridzalis there a way to make system-monitor widget showeing text-only? instead of graph?
13:55.09buxi ll like to loop over files within a folder
13:55.22safridzalcpu, ram, temp, and network monitor
13:55.23buxand for each file create a temporary variable
13:55.25buxi tried
13:55.41buxforeach f (*.smi)
13:56.09buxecho $f \ cut -d. -f1 > $t
13:56.12buxecho $t
13:56.13buxend
13:56.17buxbut it is not working
13:57.38buxi would like the outcome of echo $f  | cut -d. -f1 within a variable
13:57.43buxhow can i do that ?
14:00.29Jucatobux you should probably ask in your distro's channel or in ##linux
14:00.57buxi m on kubuntu channel
14:01.03buxbut it s kinda empty :c
14:01.04mdemeyersafridzal: if you create a new tab you can customise the presentation
14:01.35mdemeyerthere is no text only mode but perhaps a different graph or digital presentation is what you are looking for
14:02.53Jucatobux: it's kind of beyond the scope of this channel, which is for KDE support
14:04.09mdemeyerbux: try #bash
14:04.15safridzalmdemeyer: well, theres no such option, btw, im using debian testing, KDE 4.8.4
14:04.24mdemeyerbut be carefull, they can be 'nasty'
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14:04.29Jucatohe's using tcsh though
14:04.31safridzalis there such option on newer release?
14:04.52mdemeyerbax: oh right sorry wrong channel
14:04.59safridzalsay, 4.9 or 4.10
14:05.09mdemeyersafridzal: file -> new tab?
14:05.21Jucatowhich widget are you referring to anyway?
14:05.48mdemeyerI don't think thats new to 4.9
14:06.27Jucatothere might be a desktop widget like that in kde-look.org (or Get New Widgets)
14:06.34mdemeyersafridzal: I'm talking about systemmonitor, not system activity
14:06.39safridzalmdemeyer: ?? i mean widget from right click on desktop> add widget > system nomitor
14:06.57Jucato(yeah, I guessed so )
14:07.17mdemeyerneeds to learn to read
14:08.17Jucatonah. "widget" is the most abused/misused/misunderstood word in computers, next to "windows"
14:08.21Jucato:)
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14:09.41safridzalJucato: well, seems like no one created it yet (sys-mon widget with text) :D is there a "readme" to start learning to make widget?
14:10.32mdemeyersafridzal: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma
14:10.52safridzalcool, thanks :D
14:11.14mdemeyerI would advise writing in QML
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14:56.56nicolas__Hi everyone
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14:59.51nicolas__Kmail autocompletion doesn't work for some Kadressbook contacts. I've searched the web and I've seen that the problem is quite recurent. However, the posts I've seen where pretty old and did not help me to fix this probleme. Do you know if there's any workaround?
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15:02.46serafean_nicolas__: Contact autocompletion isn't enabled in kmail, the only thing you get is recent contacts
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15:04.16nicolas__serafean_: Thank you for your response. I'm pretty sad about it :'( this option is so usfull
15:04.46serafean_nicolas__: indeed, but it's being worked on
15:05.26tarablakde 4.9.3 on Archlinux: it shows me a "fetch job error" pop-up while logoff; googling I found it is someway related to kde-pim and akonadi but I just don't use these services so that suggestions are pretty useless; where I should investigate to fix this?
15:06.17nicolas__serafean_: Ok, great.
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15:07.13einar77_workserafean_: actually for some it worsk (it used to work for me too but I messed up my contacts)
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15:08.55nicolas__I have another question however. I'm syncing my gmail contacts with Kaddressbook using the "New->address book->google contacts" menu. The sync works perfectly exept that the Groups I made on gmail do not sync. Do you know if it's possible to do so?
15:09.48Aristide[out]Sorry for my away
15:10.45serafean_nicolas__: which version?
15:11.50nicolas__serafean_: Kaddressbook is 4.9.2
15:11.56Aristide[out]I repeat my question. I use KDE 4.9.80, and tags://thing lauch the web browser at this address : http://technorati.com/tag/test/?sourceid=kde-search its normal ?
15:12.00Jucatocontact autocompletion? it works for me. though I'm not sure about "some" (haven't encountered one that didn't work yet). if you  mean completion in the To: fields
15:12.11Aristide[out]Because I want to search files with Nepomuk from tagname :/
15:13.01nicolas__serafean_: To be more precise, the contacts inside the groups are synced, but the groups themselves do not
15:13.24JucatoAristide[out]: I'm getting that but I'm on 4.9 only. are you sure "tags:/" is the correct kioslave? and are you sure all of your system is already on 4.9.80? (did you restart after up upgraded)
15:13.39Aristide[out]Jucato: Yes
15:14.08Aristide[out]So tags:// kioslave is maybe for search tags on internet, not on Nepomuk
15:14.41nicolas__Jucato: Even if you create a new contact in Kaddressbook you can access it by autocompletion from kmail?
15:15.21Jucatonicolas__: I haven't tried that yet. i haven't added anyone from kaddressbook (always from google contacts)
15:16.29JucatoAristide[out]: well that depends on what is the correct kioslave. because right now,"tags" isn't a kioslave but a web shortcut, similar to gg and wp for google and wikipedia
15:16.45Aristide[out]Ok
15:16.47nicolas__Jucato: I'm jalous ;-)
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15:16.54Aristide[out]Jucato: Do you know how search tag files in KIO ?
15:17.04Aristide[out]Jucato: I have already try many  things found on Google, but don't work
15:17.12Jucatoand the default seprator is a ":" so it interprets "tags:" as "search in technorati"
15:17.36Jucatoyou do realize that you're probably one of the very few that is running a beta relase in here right? :)
15:18.08Jucatogoogle might not be able to help because there isn't much usage of it yet because it isn't released yet to that many people
15:18.38Aristide[out]Jucato: No, nepomuksearch already exist
15:18.50Aristide[out]Since many versions
15:18.53Jucatonicolas__: for what it's worth, groups in google contacts don't appear in kaddresbook at all
15:19.12JucatoAristide[out]: yes, but that is not the tags kioslave mentioned in the release announcement for 4.10 beta
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15:21.10nicolas__Jucato: Ok. Thank you
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15:29.54Leoneofhow to disable the music for startup and shutdown?
15:31.24Aristide[out]Leoneof: ALT+F2 → systemsettings → Notifications → select Workspace in list (KDE Logo)
15:31.35Aristide[out]And search login and logout sounds, and disable sound for login / logon :p
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15:34.21LeoneofAristide[out]: oh man, it's KDE 4.8.4
15:34.50Aristide[out]Leoneof: Its ok for KDE 4.8.4
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15:35.02Jucatonicolas__: I take it back. it seems that only contacts I've already had in kaddressbook before I created an account in kmail are autocompleted. anything new I add either from kaddressbook or gmail doesn't. but it's still in the list when Iclick on the "..." button
15:35.11Aristide[out]but I use KDE in French, I don't know if its good path for English version :(
15:35.49nicolas__Jucato: Ok. Thank you for trying ;-)
15:36.04LeoneofAristide[out]: oh right, it's "System Notification Configuration"
15:36.08LeoneofAristide[out]: thanks :D
15:36.10Aristide[out]Yes sorry :)
15:36.15BluesKajLeoneof, sys settings> application notifications>manage notifications > player settings , check "no audio output"
15:36.18Aristide[out]No problems
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15:36.35Aristide[out]BluesKaj: But with this solution, ALL NOTIFICATIONS will be disabled
15:36.50Jucatoer yeah
15:36.54LeoneofBluesKaj: thanks, that's the correct path ^_^
15:37.09BluesKajAristide[out], no just audio output notifications
15:37.45Aristide[out]BluesKaj: Leoneof want to disable only Logon / Logout sound ^^ I don't know if he want to disable ALL audio notifications
15:37.49Jucatook, "all audio notifications" will be disabled
15:38.05Aristide[out]Jucato: Sorry my English is not very good :(
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15:38.26Jucatonah. BluesKaj was just trying to be super       specific
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15:38.41Jucato(but his sollution was super broad)
15:38.44BluesKajok , maybe you guys like the silly sounds , but I just turn them all off , sorry Leoneof , if that's not what you want
15:39.10Leoneofno problem, you all win o/
15:39.15Aristide[out]=D
15:39.16Jucatoit's not about what we wanted, but about what he asked :P
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15:39.30BluesKajit only affects any notifacations
15:40.07Jucatoyeah, like battery low warnings, private messages on IRC, ...
15:40.16BluesKajerr notifications
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15:40.28Jucatouseful when you're not within seeing range from the computer
15:40.58Aristide[out]Ok I repeat my question :)
15:41.10Aristide[out]How search files from tag with nepomuksearch://?query= ?
15:41.43Aristide[out]I have already test many solutions find on google, but don't work (nepomuksearch://hastag:test and nepomuksearch://?query=hastag:test)
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15:44.15einar77_workAristide[out]: in 4.10 you'll use tags://
15:44.33Aristide[out]einar77_work: tags:// open web browser
15:44.43einar77_workdoesn't work in 4.9
15:44.45einar77_workit's 4.10
15:44.57Aristide[out]I have KDE 4.9.80 (beta version for 4.10)
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15:45.45Aristide[out]Oh ok
15:45.59Aristide[out]einar77_work: I check if tags:// is configure for webshortcut
15:46.26Aristide[out]Ok « Protocole non valable » ...
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15:46.44Leoneofis there any Widget to run/view dmesg for every 1sec ?
15:48.01Aristide[out]Leoneof: You can use « file viewer » (Don't know English name) plasmoid and choose log file
15:48.46LeoneofAristide[out]: yes i remember i've used this plasmoid, but need permission to view /logs/dmesg ?
15:48.58Aristide[out]Leoneof: You can edit permissions ^^
15:48.59Leoneofcan't recall the path for dmesg exactly
15:49.08LeoneofAristide[out]: how ^_^
15:49.21einar77_workAristide[out]: odd, but I don't know from which package this comes from
15:49.25Aristide[out]Leoneof: But i don't know if this operation is recommanded
15:49.27einar77_work(tags:/ that is)
15:50.19LeoneofAristide[out]: ok, give me the fish, and i will ask linux users about if this fish can hurt me or not
15:51.12Leoneofbrb, 15min
15:51.46Aristide[out]Leoneof: On Command line I don't know, but you can modify permissions with file properties in Dolphin (kdesu dolphin)
15:51.48Aristide[out]And enjoy
15:52.50JucatoAristide[out]: did you disable/delete the tags webshort so that it won't conflict with the kioslave?
15:53.04Aristide[out]Jucato: Its done =)
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15:53.19Aristide[out]But tags://test don't work
15:53.27Aristide[out]I check packages
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16:37.58PicanderHi, my kmail is totally messed up. When I reply to an email it always give the same recipent (alsa-users@lists.sourceforge.net). I have to tell it "reply to all" and delete the alsa-users recipient. When I click favourite folders on the top it takes me to the wrong folder. When I write a mail it goes to the wrong folder
16:38.49PicanderI really don't know how to describe all this mess in the bug database
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17:06.53MmikeKonsole 2.8.5 on KDE 4.8.5 (kubuntu 12.04)
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17:30.00Leoneofi see widget called web slice, it's possible to show part of webgui for the router?
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18:24.34FLHerneLeoneof: That's the idea
18:24.47ashwinis there a loop option in amarok?
18:24.58LeoneofFLHerne: i've no idea :D
18:25.39FLHerneLeoneof: It should do, but I think it has trouble with some pages
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18:26.24LeoneofFLHerne: how to enter username/password ?
18:28.59FLHerneLeoneof: Actually, that might not work. Try the Web Browser widget instead maybe?
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18:30.16FLHerneJust checked, Web Browser plasmoid seems to do my router config  fine :-)
18:31.16LeoneofFLHerne: i will try, thanks
18:34.26LeoneofFLHerne: right, but i want to get 'part' of webpage, like ip connection...etc :/
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18:35.45FLHernethinks
18:36.39loccihi, where does kde stores application priority per mimetype?
18:37.45loccifirefox open folder opens directories in cervisia, so I was looking into it
18:38.05tsimpsonLeoneof: look at the settings, it shows how to display part of a page (though you'll probably need to look at the HTML source of the page to be able to use it)
18:39.13locciI hoped desktop files allowed for a priority to be specified, but it really seems they don't and update-desktop-database stores applications in alphabetical order in the cache so kde4-cervisia appears before kde4-dolphin
18:39.51Leoneoftsimpson: that's for web browser widget, or web slice?
18:40.04tsimpsonLeoneof: web slice
18:40.19loccibut then kde applications work fine, and the mimetype order in the kde settings is the "right" one, with dolphin in front of everything
18:40.55Leoneoftsimpson: but it doesn't show webpage to enter username/password, it shows page for Error.. wrong username/password....etc
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18:42.21tsimpsonLeoneof: you probably need to put the username and password in the URL field, like http://user:password@192.160.0.1/
18:42.36tsimpsonit's a _very simple_ browser
18:42.47Leoneofaha, haven't tried this way...
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18:43.53FLHernetsimpson: Oh, that actually works here :-) . Cool...
18:44.08k2shi, is there a way to dissable Ctrl+F8-F10 key bindings in kde4 ?
18:45.27Leoneoftsimpson: excellent, but how to get part of webpage :\ , it's not like any other websites
18:46.07FLHernek2s: Global Keyboard Shortcuts, surely?
18:46.50Leoneoftsimpson: Gemometry is grey, :[
18:47.05LeoneofGeometry*
18:48.17tsimpsonLeoneof: clear the "Element to show" line if you want to use the Geometry line
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18:51.17Leoneoftsimpson: right, i can see parts for webpage, but i don't know which part to pick
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18:53.17Leoneoftsimpson: you can try with this http://www.tp-link.com/resources/simulator/TL-WR941ND_v2&v3/index.htm
18:53.18Leoneof:D
18:53.37Leoneofi want WAN part in the main page
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18:58.46tsimpsonLeoneof: it uses frames, so you probably want to open /StatusRpm.htm and then try and go from there
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19:02.00tsimpsontry entering #t_wan1 under Element to show if you get that page to show
19:03.37Leoneof;(
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19:08.52mdemeyerashwin: On the bottom of playlist there are buttons to save and empty a playlist.
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19:09.15mdemeyerthere is also a button to change the play mode (repeat, repeat one, random..)
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19:11.29DaZlocci: because kde way is the superior one :v
19:12.48DaZi tried to figure it out for a while, and it usually ends in not using non-kde apps :c
19:12.54ashwinmdemeyer: thanks
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19:16.07hagabakais kwin tiling removed?
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19:16.35hagabakawow really?
19:16.39mgraesslinyes
19:17.21Moviurohagabaka: yeah, sad
19:17.48danharibowhat?!
19:17.54danhariboI'm sticking with 4.9 in that case.
19:18.02Moviurohagabaka: If you ever manage to use PyTyle2 or tile, plz help me... those are tiling software, not WM
19:18.20Moviurodanharibo: ^
19:18.43danhariboI'll just install Awesomewm or go back to Xmonad
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19:30.03hagabakathe notification popups are showing up on the top middle of the screen and don't look like plasma popups...
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19:32.30locciDaZ: it really baffles me, especially since "xdg-mime query default inode/directory" returns dolphin.desktop. Opera works fine too, but then it opens images using sxiv. What the hell? I'm starting to think browsers implement an internal mimetype list with associated applications
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19:34.11hagabakaah I didn't have it enabled in system tray
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19:43.54k2sis there a way to dissable Ctrl+F8-F10 key bindings in kde4 ?
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19:48.35Inkanek2s: check in systemsettings
19:48.42Inkanethere you can configure short cuts
19:48.50Inkanethe easiest way to find the module
19:48.59Inkaneis prorably searching for keybinding
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19:50.13k2sI am first day KDE user :-) and I was looking for it for more then 20 minutes. There is "Shortcuts and Gestures", but Ctrl+F8 is not listed there
19:50.58Inkaneyou have a bar on the left, right?
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19:51.08Inkanewith global shortcutss
19:51.14Inkane*shortcuts?
19:51.18Inkanek2s: ^^
19:51.45k2syes,  I see now, there is combobox :-) KDE COmponent
19:52.02Inkaneclick on it
19:52.10Inkane<PROTECTED>
19:52.20Inkanein the drop down menu
19:52.42k2sTHX ! was not seeing that combobox
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19:53.19Inkanewell, everyone knows thta systemsettings  could be improved, but no one knows how
19:53.21k2sis there a way check if and key binding is configured ? like I would press Ctrl+F8 and it would tell me what is assigned to it ?
19:53.38Inkanenot that I'm aware of
19:53.45Inkanethough you would get a conflict message
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19:53.58k2sKDE is great. i dont know what i was waiting for to start to use it :-)
19:53.59Inkaneif you assign the sequence to any action when it's already assigned
19:54.38k2syes, that conflict message is good enough for me
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21:04.24quentinHi Xeno ! just to come back to my plasma issue earlier this morning. I have finally restarted my box and the prolem is solved. Thanks
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21:11.32Xenou're welcome, i'm glad I could help
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21:23.18valoriehttp://www.etsy.com/blog/news/2012/etsy-hacker-grants-supporting-women-in-technology/ -- spread the word
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21:31.29u-fokaHy! I've just switched from gnome3 to kde4, and it seems that the drag start distance is completely ignored and drags only started after 500 ms which is quite a long time :( is this a known problem? are there any workarounds? or only my system is fucked up? :S I've tried it also with a brand new user and I experienced the very same behavior :(
21:32.07u-fokaForgot to mention: I'm using kde 4.9.3
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21:38.42safinaskaris there any plans to create kde 5?
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21:55.22_kdepepou-foka, you can configure drag time in System Settings
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21:56.19_kdepepoand please report bugs for KDE applications that do not respect those settings, some developers just are not aware of them.
21:56.58_kdepeposafinaskar, you mean KDE based on Qt 5?
21:57.11safinaskar_kdepepo: maybe
21:58.49_kdepeposafinaskar, http://vizzzion.org/blog/2012/09/frameworks5-and-libplasma2-hacking-in-the-mountains/
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21:59.46watermindcan I set a different activity to a 2nd monitor
21:59.56watermindso that 'everything' fits properly
22:00.10watermindright now I have two monitors with different resolutions
22:00.24safinaskar_kdepepo: thanks
22:00.30Jucatosafinaskar: going by current marketing terms, there is no such thing as "KDE version 5" since "KDE" refers to the community (and you don't usually have a "people version 5"). there will be libraries (KDE Frameworks 5, libplasma2) based on Qt 5(.1)  and applications that will be based on that. what that will be called by the time that happens, we don't know yet.
22:00.31watermindbut everything is set to look good in one of the displays
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22:00.37watermindand in the other everything looks crappy
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22:01.11u-foka_kdepepo, thanks for the reply, it seems that the whole system complately ignores both the drag start distance and time settings. I've tryed to change them both to 1 (pixel / milisec) but the behavior doesn't change at all :S tried on decorations, dolphin, kwrite, and also gtk apps: xchat, chromium
22:01.16Jucatothere is still a lot of work needed to even finish KF5, so don't expect it anytime soon
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22:03.49safinaskarJucato: i think KDE is DE, i. e. desktop environment for gnu/linux (but can work on freebsd and some other system, even on windows)
22:03.58safinaskarJucato: and also (of course) kde is community
22:04.12safinaskarJucato: but i think that primary meaning of "kde" is de
22:04.31Jucato"and also applications that can be used outside of the DE"
22:04.40safinaskarJucato: yes
22:05.38Jucatolike I said, marketing terms. not mine. just keep in mind that not everything "KDE" today is "desktop environment" (that would be the "Plasma workspace" part)
22:06.33neverendingoand KDE is no shortcut anymore for a long time already
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22:24.07watermindI tried a dual monitor setup
22:24.19watermindand now after i quit it still behaves as if I had it connected
22:24.37watermindwith cursor leaving the screen as if going to the extra monitor
22:24.38watermindhow do you fix this?
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22:52.43k2spls. help: Alt+Tab works , but Alt+Shit+Tab doesn't work in reverse direction. I see it setuped correctly in shortcut settings. The same on 2 different PCs
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23:12.36AtticHello! I have a question. Is it safe to make my $HOME/.kde4/share/config folder public for other people? Or are passwords also saved in this folder?
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23:20.00AristideAttic: Passwords was saved in this file, but is encrypted ... I don't know if share this folder is recommended ...
23:20.07AristideI advice you to select files for share :)
23:20.15Aristide(Sorry if my English is not good)
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23:44.32shevyhi
23:45.36shevyI will try to compile from http://download.kde.org/unstable/4.9.80/src/ - I think one should start with kdelibs yes? (qt4 as qt-4.8.3 should work, I compiled it a few hours ago into /usr prefix, "make install" finished without error)
23:47.14shevyhmm requires phonon, so I suppose that should go before kdelibs
23:48.07_kdepeposhevy, maybe it's simpler to use kdesrc-build, because kdelibs requires some more stuff.
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23:54.40shevy_kdepepo yeah, but finding the dependencies is okish, I only have to find the URL once, then my scripts can fetch & compile. it's only the initial work that's the main hurdle :)
23:55.12shevycompiled phonon now. not very big package it seems, the .tar.bz2 at ~ 300KB
23:59.01_kdepeposhevy, if you plan to also run your compilation, Phonon needs a backend (gstreamer or VLC)
23:59.40shevyhmm ok. I think I have gstreamer, a gstreamer-1.0.pc file with version 1.0.3, will also look at VLC soon

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