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00:21.50oscurochuwhen i touch my mousepad, it thinks i clicked something, how do i disable this?
00:22.18oscurochuits the most annoying feature i've ever seen
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00:32.42chaotixhello...   is it possible to compile kolourpaint to use on windows?  its just so much better than mspaint
00:33.20chaotixi install kolourpaint on every distro i use
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00:36.08kde__pepoIt should be selectable in the KDE on Windows installer.
00:37.13szalwonders if the KDE for Windows initiative is still alive & kicking.. no updates for quite some time
00:44.06muh2000hmmm
00:44.41muh2000dolphin always wakes up my HDDs. even though i am not accessing it. :(
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00:45.39muh2000any guesses on how to fix that?
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01:20.50cardamonYuck, Okular is showing text on all grey on white.
01:21.28cardamonI assume it's my colors.
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02:06.46deizhuDoes anyone have an idea why my chinese fonts look so bad in kde? They were fine in xfce...
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02:23.21bleomycinis there some kind of KDE equalizer for alsa? Some way to at least control treble/bass globally?
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05:04.41gh403Where should I ask about Oxygen Transparent?
05:05.17gh403Arch x86_64, KDE 4.9.3, if it matters.
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08:45.16Walexbleomycin: since ALSA offers a close-to-hw view of a sound card, if the sound card has treble/bass control, fine, else you need a sound server with an equalizer plugin
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09:42.43qurkwhat would be the correct channel to suggest dolphin have a file transfer window like konqueror?
09:43.16qurklike with konq, if I copy files onto a drive or my phone, it shows progress bars.  But Dolphin, it's a crapshoot
09:43.36qurkI have no idea when it will be done
09:44.19qurkI want to like dolphin, I really do
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09:50.13bleomycinqurk: my transfer show up under notifications, dont know if there is some way to enable it elsewhere. I agree the other way is better
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09:52.26qurkbleomycin, I will look next time.  But tonight I transfered like a gig of stuff and I just figured I'd wait like an hour to make sure.  Should have used konq
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09:53.41qurkbleomycin, I am also such a dork I've been running without window borders for over a month cause I don't want to reboot :/
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10:06.02bleomycinqurk: lol yeah i hate rebooting too
10:06.11invariantqurk, you don't need to reboot for that.
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10:07.22bleomycinif i have to restart the DE and lose everyhting  i have open its no better than a reboot
10:07.57invariantbleomycin, kquitapp plasma-desktop
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10:08.12invariantbleomycin, this doesn't lose anything, afaik.
10:08.58bleomycininvariant: interesting, hadent heard of kquitapp
10:09.57invariantbleomycin, to restart it, you just run plasma-desktop
10:10.09invariantbleomycin, or rather, to start it again.
10:11.27bleomycininvariant: neat, thanks for the tip!
10:12.05invariantbleomycin, they should just include a command like plasma-stop and plasma-start to provide these services.
10:12.21invariantbleomycin, or even something like plasma-edit-configuration
10:13.01bleomycininvariant: yeah that would be nice
10:13.07qurkok so
10:13.12invariantbleomycin, I don't wait for these things, I just write them myself.
10:13.19invariantbleomycin, it takes 20 seconds or so.
10:13.20qurki just start a terminal and type plasma-desktop?
10:13.25bleomycininvariant: i'm still learning all of the KDE termonology, plasma, plasmoids etc heh
10:13.42invariantbleomycin, I also don't know all the terminology.
10:14.31qurkdidn't work
10:14.37invariantqurk, you didn't read.
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10:15.02invariantqurk, first you need to use kquitapp.
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10:15.20invariantqurk, then you need to execute plasma-desktop
10:15.32invariantqurk, if it then doesn't work, you would have to be more precise.
10:15.36tsimpsonwindow decorations would be kwin, not plasma
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10:15.52invariantYou can also restart kwin.
10:16.14qurkgotcha invariant
10:16.22qurkI'm gonna write this down for future reference
10:16.40qurkbtw my windows still aren't back, but this will be useful in the future
10:16.57qurkstill don't feel like rebooting
10:17.31qurkdo the same thing with kwin?
10:18.44invariantqurk, kwin --replace?
10:18.46qurkhad to do 'kwin --replace'
10:18.51tsimpsonyou should just be able to run "kwin --replace"
10:18.54qurkit suggested that to me
10:19.08qurkthanks guys, although I didn't ask, you were more than helpful
10:19.32qurkI won't bore you with my other problems haha
10:19.51qurkunless you want to be bored
10:20.29qurklike why is my tray filling half my taskbar, and I can't move my clock to the right side of the screen?
10:21.09qurkthe way I think, at least it isn't gnome.
10:22.12invariantqurk, this is a bug.
10:22.23invariantqurk, it has been reported already.
10:22.33invariantqurk, to solve it, you can log back in.
10:22.49invariantqurk, I don't know of another way to solve it.
10:22.49qurkk
10:23.06qurkwell it isn't bothering me
10:23.06invariantqurk, naturally, when you find a way to solve it, please inform me.
10:23.17qurkI will, sir
10:23.43qurkactually I've been hanging out on freenode here for like over a year without logging in here
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10:23.55qurki just get on a couple channels
10:24.07qurkcause somehow xchat forgot my channel list
10:24.19qurkbut that is good, because this way I don't bother you guys
10:24.36qurkbut god knows I prefer kde over any other DE
10:25.03qurki figure I'll pull my channel list off the computer in my bedroom, but I haven't even turned it on for over a year so
10:25.09qurksorry for boring you :)
10:25.14bleomycinqurk: tried konversation? i like it better than xchat
10:25.28qurkno, i haven't
10:25.35qurkwell maybe one time years ago
10:26.20bleomycinxchat seems pretty dead to me, hexchat is alive if you like xchat though www.hexchat.org
10:26.33qurkI like how you can get on multiple servers/channels and it's all controlled by a single .cfg file
10:26.40qurkor a couple
10:26.50qurkhmmm hexchat......hmmmmmmm
10:27.03bleomycinheh
10:27.07qurkI don't know how progressive I want to be :)
10:27.20qurkI was like the last person on the planet to let go of kde 3.5 :)
10:27.46qurki'm sure the puter in my bedroom still runs that
10:28.12qurkit's my baby, I built it in 2003
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10:28.54qurkI offered it to a dude for $100 last month
10:28.59qurkand he started talking shit on me
10:29.05qurkso I called him a racial slur
10:29.18qurkI don't offer my baby to just anyone
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14:50.32mdemeyerqurk: protip: If you type part of a name and press tab it autocompletes ;)
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14:51.26qurkmdemeyer, I had no clue mdemeyer I was born yesterday mdemeyer
14:51.51qurkthank you for the protip
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14:52.31qurkI've only been on irc since 1994 so obviously I have no clue
14:54.24qurkI thank you  for helping our new Windows 8 brethren though
14:56.29qurkit's sad, I ran gentoo on a 350mhz processor and now any boob gets like a duel core 1.2 ghz processor
14:57.08qurkON THEIR PHONE
14:58.20qurkSUCK IT, NERDS
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17:47.15Walexmaximi89: not entirely surprising...
17:47.43Walexmaximi89: and 'killall pulseaudio' is not the right way, something like 'pactl' (or other script) may be better
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17:55.57maximi89Walex, even when you try to restart PA?
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18:29.57rjtALT+F2 works but ALT+F1 does not.  Icon does not show on bottom panel.  Just USB devices.  Tried adding it back, but it does not appear.
18:30.58rjtHow would one reset to "factory defaults"?
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18:44.25chatterboxHi all, I have problem with my icons recently, after I installed and removed an icon set on my KDE installation. I am using KDE on Archlinux.
18:44.56chatterboxThe problem is that, icons not included in oxygen are missing. (Icons like Firefox, Chromuim, Blender, ...)
18:45.47chatterboxI have reinstalled Oxygen, those apps, and even that icon set, but these didn't make no defference.
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18:46.25chatterboxAny ideas?
18:46.27cb400fwhere are they missing?
18:46.47cb400fyou checked the list of files installed by those packages that the icons are not installed?
18:47.07chatterboxIn Homerun, Krunner, icons only task manager, ...
18:47.39chatterboxcb400f: No, I'll check now.
18:47.56cb400fhave you rebooted your system during all this?
18:48.06chatterboxcb400f: Yes, several times.
18:48.25cb400fhm, strange issue
18:48.37cb400fmaybe something with the icon cache
18:48.49chatterboxcb400f: And I have reconfigured many things. From.gtkrc, to my font and icon settings.
18:49.01chatterboxcb400f: How ca I reset icon cache?
18:49.59cb400fnot sure actually
18:50.20chatterboxcb400f: About firefox, the file /usr/lib/firefox/icons/mozicon128.png exists.
18:50.39cb400fyou could also try the ever useful tip of trying a new user... to see if the system/installation is borked.. or just your particular user settings
18:50.47chatterboxcb400f: Same for /usr/lib/firefox/chrome/icons/default/default16.png
18:51.08chatterboxcb400f: I'll try and be back, thanks
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18:52.07PovAddictany sane app to work with photo libraries?
18:52.33PovAddictgwenview is only useful as a viewer
18:53.01cb400fdigikam? kphotoalbum? ... tons of non-kde photo managers
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18:53.55chatterboxI tryed with a new user, the problem seems to be system wide.
18:54.09PovAddicttrying kphotoalbum
18:54.10chatterboxThe problem was solved for Firefox, but all others are still missing.
18:54.17PovAddictI better find something fast before I'm tempted to use iPhoto on the Mac
18:54.51chatterboxcb400f: I'm totally confused.
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18:57.18cb400fchatterbox: well.. if the brokenness persists for new users, it's a system/installation issue.. so go talk to some arch guys ;-)
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18:58.00chatterboxcb400f: They couldn't help though. Thanks a million for helping.
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19:05.19thiagothere's a person with the nickname Sparks online righ tnow
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19:09.44FrogbarfI would like to copy my entire Kontakt w/kmail2 profile containing all local folders and email from one machine to another. What is the best way to accomplish that?
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19:15.25thiagorjt: don't do that
19:15.25shumskiFrogbarf: KMail menu --> Tools --> Export KMail Data
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19:15.38Frogbarfthanks
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19:18.13rjtthiago, sorry.  Having unexpected latency.  Why is ping frowned upon?
19:18.32PovAddictyou pinged everybody in the channel
19:18.40thiagorjt: ping isn't frowned upon. CTCP to the entire channel is.
19:18.47thiagothat includes pings to the entire channel
19:19.09PovAddictyou just sent 375 pings
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19:49.03PovAddictkphotoalbum wants all my pictures to be in the same directory
19:49.29PovAddictand doesn't even have an "import from another directory" so I'd have to do the filesystem move myself
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20:35.38omeringenhi
20:35.51omeringenwhy i am not able to rename files ?
20:35.52omeringenhttp://i49.tinypic.com/b95c.png
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20:55.50Moviuroomeringen: try resizing the window ?
20:57.14omeringenMoviuro: no difference
20:57.21Moviuroomeringen: and which KDE version is it ? I got 4.9.4 and don't have that problem
20:57.50Moviuro*4.9.3
20:57.54omeringen4.9.3-1
20:58.18omeringeni'm draggind same file inside ARK to a folder
20:58.25omeringen*dragging
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20:58.48omeringeni can owerwrite but can't rename
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20:59.30Moviuroomeringen: can't reproduce with KDE 4.9.3, archlinux, bespin theme
20:59.55Moviurodid you reboot since last KDE up{date,grade}?
21:00.12omeringenyep
21:00.25omeringenand i am on arch either
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23:05.42The_ManU_212hi
23:07.10The_ManU_212i switched my dualscreen from 19" to 24" then i run nvidia-settings for a new config file and now under plasma the panel from the left screen are on the right one overlaying its panels, how can i bring them back to the left screen perhaps with changes in plasma-desktopappletrc?
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23:16.22djxhey guys, what is supposed to write where it says "Subnet mask" on ipv6 tab of network manager?
23:16.51thiagonothing
23:17.21djxthiago so he know which subnet he belongs by magic?
23:17.40thiagowhy are you configuring an IPv6 address manually?
23:18.04JuanAnd I thought the default iconset misrepresented the battery state http://i.imgur.com/z3uRR.png
23:18.08Juan:-/
23:18.26djxbecause I need it, I don't want to configure a dhcp server at this moment
23:18.45thiagodjx: do you have an IPv6-capable router?
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23:19.10djxsigh yes
23:19.21thiagodjx: then leave the configuration to automatic
23:19.22Walex2djx: IPv6 uses only the prefix notation
23:19.33thiagodjx: not DHCP, the automatic stateless configuration
23:19.57thiagoWalex2: true, but maybe the UI isn't capable of that
23:20.08djxI don't want it to automatic, I need that specific IP
23:20.23thiagodjx: then write your network's prefix
23:20.28thiagoI mean, prefix length
23:20.47djxon "subnet mask"?
23:21.01thiagoyes, the prefix length
23:21.36djxcool cool cool
23:21.43djxtks ;)
23:22.00thiagoit says "Netmask", but it's actually the prefix length
23:22.19djxyes that's the problem =\
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23:22.23thiagoand it auto-fills to "64" by default
23:22.49djxyes but at the first time I was quick with the TAB and didn't see anything
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