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| 02:14.38 | KimLaroux | Is this the right channel to ask for support, or is there another channel for that? |
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| 02:35.17 | KimLaroux | Anyways, I guess I should just ask. I have a serious problem with KDE 4.9.3. |
| 02:35.42 | KimLaroux | I've tried to google it, but google's new engine is too incompetent to be useful |
| 02:36.52 | KimLaroux | Randomly, sometimes right at logon and sometimes hours after, the pointer's focus stays locked on a window, even if the window is lowered, in the background, or even on another desktop |
| 02:38.17 | Sho_ | KimLaroux: Hmm |
| 02:38.28 | Sho_ | Bizarre |
| 02:38.36 | KimLaroux | Keyboard shortcuts still work, and I can launch apps using the drop down launcher |
| 02:38.49 | KimLaroux | yes, I just don't know what to search for, it's just weird |
| 02:39.52 | Sho_ | KimLaroux: You could try going to the possibly-relevant window behavior settings pages in System Settings - those covering things like click-to-focus, focus follows mouse, focus stealing prevention, etc, should be about two-three different ones - and hittingtheir Defaults buttons for good measure |
| 02:40.21 | Sho_ | A bit heavy handed, but might be a reasonable tabula rasa to eliminate that as a source |
| 02:40.25 | KimLaroux | For exemple, I had thunderbird on Desktop 1 and KSystemLog on desktop 2. If I tried to click on "Xorg logs" on KSystemLog, it was as if I clicked Reply on Thunderbird, and the reply window appears |
| 02:40.38 | KimLaroux | ok let me try |
| 02:40.58 | Sho_ | KimLaroux: Window layering and window focus can technically be independent depending on settings |
| 02:41.23 | KimLaroux | what would affect layering? |
| 02:41.30 | KimLaroux | as in, what settings? |
| 02:41.49 | KimLaroux | is this kwin of plasma desktop? |
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| 02:42.01 | KimLaroux | I tried to kill both, and it didn't fix the issue |
| 02:42.08 | Sho_ | KimLaroux: There's a drop down governing what happens when you left-click into windows for example that has options that include focussing and not focussing |
| 02:42.36 | Sho_ | KimLaroux: Unfortunately for complicated and annoying reasons I am writing this from frigging Windows 8 so I don't have System Settings in front of me atm |
| 02:42.50 | Sho_ | KimLaroux: This is kwin |
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| 02:43.57 | KimLaroux | so my best bet would be something in WIndow Behavior... which is weird because it's about the only settings I didn't touch. This is a relatively fresh install, formatted last week. |
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| 02:44.45 | Sho_ | KimLaroux: FWIW I somewhat doubt it's going to be the settings so I apologize in advance for sending you on a wild goose chase, but it could potentially be them so it makes sense to eliminate the possibility |
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| 02:45.04 | KimLaroux | nods. |
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| 02:45.18 | KimLaroux | Thanks anyways, I wasn't sure where the focus policies where in the settings |
| 02:45.20 | Sho_ | actually has some code in kwin, good times |
| 02:45.56 | Sho_ | KimLaroux: The "Focus Stealing Prevention" setting on one of the other pages could also be relevant |
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| 02:46.26 | KimLaroux | What's really annoying is the problem seems to be random, as I have not found how to replicate it |
| 02:46.52 | Sho_ | I've never heard of or encountered it before |
| 02:46.58 | Sho_ | (and I spend quite some time here) |
| 02:47.21 | KimLaroux | weird |
| 02:47.43 | KimLaroux | It may be a combination of hardware and driver |
| 02:48.38 | Sho_ | hardware seems unlikely to me, the GPU driver as well because it's not involved with policy ... seems most likely to be on the wm/compositor level |
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| 02:48.59 | KimLaroux | nods. |
| 02:49.17 | KimLaroux | It's weird though that I can still use the keyboard, but not the mouse |
| 02:49.41 | KimLaroux | the mouse _only_ works on the window it's locked to |
| 02:49.46 | Sho_ | Either it's the whole focus thing, or the compositor's scene graph running amok and z-ordering the windows in a way that actually differs from the focus chain |
| 02:50.19 | KimLaroux | what's z-ordering? I have a feeling this is it |
| 02:50.43 | Sho_ | Hm, I think there is something like netwm hints for window-level mouse grabs intended for games |
| 02:50.58 | Sho_ | Not sure how that would get invoked there .. |
| 02:51.13 | KimLaroux | hhmm |
| 02:51.48 | Sho_ | KimLaroux: Basically if you think of the windows existing in 3D space, so you have a coordinate space with three axis, the Z axis is the axis on which windows are either above or below each other |
| 02:51.49 | KimLaroux | from what I noticed, it's as if the mouse was "seeing" a different window than what was actually on the screen |
| 02:52.12 | KimLaroux | Nice, I didn't know it worked that way |
| 02:52.20 | Sho_ | KimLaroux: In a modern composited desktop environment the desktop actually _is_ an OpenGL 3D scene, the windows are (usually) quads textured with window contents from off-screen memory/texture buffers |
| 02:53.01 | Sho_ | So in theory, the compositor could z-order and paint the windows in a stacking order that differs from what is actually going on focus-wise |
| 02:53.06 | Sho_ | but anyway |
| 02:53.22 | Sho_ | this doesn't really entirely mesh with the whole "trapped to a window" thing you mentioned later |
| 02:53.35 | KimLaroux | why not? seems possible to me |
| 02:53.41 | Sho_ | because being trapped to one window goes beyond just the stacking/z-order being incorrect |
| 02:53.56 | KimLaroux | if the stacking was frozen? |
| 02:54.19 | KimLaroux | but frozen only for the mouse... |
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| 02:54.34 | KimLaroux | as if the pointer's stacking position stopped getting updated |
| 02:54.57 | KimLaroux | or z value |
| 02:55.19 | Sho_ | Well, you can prove/disprove that by making the window not cover each other ... if the clicks still don't go to the visually on top window even in an area where it doesn't overlap the visually lower window, it's not just z-order |
| 02:55.45 | Sho_ | because even if the top window would in truth be lower than it appears, since it's not overlapping the click should still go through to it |
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| 02:56.04 | Sho_ | (unless click-to-focus in the settings is off) |
| 02:56.24 | KimLaroux | I'm not sure what you mean |
| 02:56.32 | Sho_ | (because you can configure kwin in a mode where you need to first explicitly focus a window, either via soem shortcut or an extra click, before clicks are actually passed to a window) |
| 02:56.44 | Sho_ | (by default, the first click focusses the window and is immediately passed on as well) |
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| 02:57.18 | Sho_ | (well, actually I am explaining that slightly wrong in terms of the details or rather it's more complicated because raising or not raising a window is a separate factor, but you get the gist) |
| 02:57.51 | Sho_ | KimLaroux: the pointer doesn't have a z value though |
| 02:58.04 | Sho_ | it's always "on top" so to say |
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| 02:58.42 | KimLaroux | Interesting |
| 02:58.55 | KimLaroux | because in this bug, it's not on top... not even on the same desktop |
| 02:59.36 | Sho_ | virtual desktops are also fun, iirc there is an option somewhere governing whether to maintain separate focus chains for different VDs or not :) |
| 02:59.46 | Sho_ | so many variables |
| 03:00.13 | KimLaroux | Eh, some things are so ridiculously complicated |
| 03:00.24 | Sho_ | although I might possibly confuse that with the option to maintain different focus chains for different _screens_ |
| 03:00.34 | Sho_ | feels at a disadvantage without the UI actually being in his face |
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| 03:00.57 | Sho_ | ironically I actually _have_ SystemSettings on this Windows 8 |
| 03:01.04 | Sho_ | but the windows build obviously lacks the kwin settings ;) |
| 03:02.03 | KimLaroux | I'm still trying to understand the test you explained to verify the theory |
| 03:03.23 | KimLaroux | Even if I made them not overlap, then clicked the "in focus" window, the clicks would simply not do anything, as it would be like clicking nothing |
| 03:03.33 | Sho_ | KimLaroux: What I meant was, if you have two windows that partially overlap each other but not fully, and the pointer appears to pass through the visually top one to the visually lower one, then in the area where the visually higher one is not overlapping the visually lower one clicks should still go to the visually higher one |
| 03:04.27 | Sho_ | If they don't, then the pointer is indeed trapped on the "lower layer" in some fashion rather than there just being a z-order painting mistake, because even if the logical z-order is different from the visual one, because the visually higher window is not overlapping anything there even if it were logically lower than it appears the click should still arrive there |
| 03:04.55 | Sho_ | In my defense, it's 4 AM and English is a second language and it's a complex scenario :) |
| 03:05.10 | KimLaroux | are you french? |
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| 03:05.36 | Sho_ | Actually German, but the ability to write badly-structured run-on sentences is universally human at 4 AM I think |
| 03:05.45 | KimLaroux | haha yeah |
| 03:06.45 | Sho_ | Frankly, if I were French you'd have worse grammar and orthography to contend with from me, in my experience :) *hides from the resident French* |
| 03:07.24 | KimLaroux | I was asking because I'm french canadian |
| 03:08.01 | Sho_ | ah :) We have quite a few French and Canadians in KDE of course |
| 03:09.44 | KimLaroux | well thanks for all the information, it's more than what I had |
| 03:09.53 | Sho_ | nothing much concrete sadly, sorry |
| 03:10.15 | KimLaroux | yeah I still can't find any bug report on the web |
| 03:10.29 | Sho_ | if you try again the crowd in #kwin might have more ideas, though the maintainer is more likely to be around during the European daytime |
| 03:10.39 | KimLaroux | all google gives is is release notes and download pages! |
| 03:10.56 | KimLaroux | Ah i didn't know that was on another channel |
| 03:11.02 | KimLaroux | thanks for the tip |
| 03:11.17 | Sho_ | KimLaroux: Maybe forums would be a more focused search environment |
| 03:11.26 | Sho_ | forum.kde.org, the gentoo and arch forums, those kinds of places |
| 03:12.02 | KimLaroux | well, back when google was not consumer-focused, searching for bugs also gave results from those forums |
| 03:13.01 | KimLaroux | it's just so annoying, the more words you use, the less precise the search is... how useless is that |
| 03:13.21 | KimLaroux | Now it's giving me wikipedia pages for xfce and ubuntu =( |
| 03:13.30 | KimLaroux | sighs. |
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| 04:39.31 | dk0r | Is there a folding@home kde screen saver? |
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| 04:46.18 | DaZ | wat |
| 04:46.56 | phiscribe | ive only seen windows versions |
| 04:47.37 | DaZ | wikipedia says that there's linux one ;v |
| 04:47.51 | dk0r | ... |
| 04:47.57 | phiscribe | do you have to run that one or is it a screen saver? |
| 04:48.13 | dk0r | any distributed computing screen saver |
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| 04:54.52 | zorael | Is there any way to scale up a window (eg nearest-neighbour 2x) and transforming input? I have this low-res game and the proprietary nvidia drivers are currently derp and can't change resolutions. [arch, kwin 4.9.95] |
| 04:54.55 | zorael | Is there any way to scale up a window (eg nearest-neighbour 2x) and transforming input? I have this low-res game and the proprietary nvidia drivers are currently derp and can't change resolutions. [arch, kwin 4.9.95] |
| 04:54.58 | zorael | errr, apologies |
| 04:55.49 | DaZ | wat |
| 04:57.49 | zorael | Basically I'm wondering if kwin can scale a window's contents without discarding input |
| 04:58.03 | DaZ | hum |
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| 05:00.37 | DaZ | i don't think i've seen it anywhere :v |
| 05:00.41 | DaZ | you can zoom though ;v |
| 05:00.43 | zorael | my current workaround is to use the Zoom effect and try to somehow center on the game window, but that's a bit cumbersome |
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| 09:05.14 | shodan45 | anyone give some direction on where in the kde codebase the "launch feedback" (bouncing icon) is? |
| 09:05.58 | shodan45 | I kinda hate it & want to see how hard it would be to make something new & modern :) |
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| 09:07.31 | jussi | shodan45: I dont know where it is, but i agree and always turn it off |
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| 09:08.52 | shodan45 | jussi: heh... I would, but I like having some kind of feedback that an application is loading |
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| 09:27.26 | shodan45 | isn't having any luck randomly looking in the kde source :/ |
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| 10:51.37 | Jip | hi |
| 10:52.08 | Jip | is there a way to tell the kickstart menu to show recent used programs but not recent used documents? |
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| 10:55.37 | oneadvent | Jip: yes |
| 10:55.53 | oneadvent | you just give 000 permissions to the recentdocuments folder |
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| 10:56.07 | oneadvent | lemme see if i can find a link, i just did that. people dont need to know my business |
| 10:57.22 | oneadvent | chmod -w ~/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/ |
| 10:57.34 | oneadvent | ^ Jip should do it, I think I did 000 first |
| 10:57.55 | oneadvent | also should clear it out with a nice rm ~/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/* |
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| 11:07.01 | Jip | oneadvent: thx |
| 11:07.45 | user9546_ | hello |
| 11:07.57 | user9546_ | is there any way to integrate menu from java swing apps (such as netbeans) to kde global menu widget? |
| 11:08.02 | Jip | the chmod thing sounds a bit like it's not supposed to do it like that though :P |
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| 11:09.11 | chemtail | 4.9.3, Kubuntu 12.10 -- Is there a way to set the default video player without heaping through 20 file associations manually? |
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| 11:11.09 | Jip | another question... I set most of my symbols to a small size (16) but in the system info bar the information symbol and the external media (hdd etc) symbol are ignoring this setting. it's "destroying" the visual pleasure of the task bar. anyway to change that? |
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| 11:27.16 | oneadvent | np Jip |
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| 11:28.31 | oneadvent | hmm chemtail what happens if you uninstall dragon, then no choice but what you want |
| 11:29.31 | chemtail | i just went for manually setting it all. dragon will, on rare occasions, handle files that vlc can't, and ripping it out seems a bit harsh anyway |
| 11:29.53 | chemtail | just thought there'd be a choice for default video player somewhere like there is for web browser and email client. |
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| 11:33.10 | oneadvent | well chemtail web-browsers really only have html files or http:// files, whereas there are a lot of media type files |
| 11:33.23 | chemtail | yep. |
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| 12:09.25 | sneakers | howdy. I'm running Kubuntu 12.10 and I have a question about KDE Partition Manager. I can't seem to create encrypted volumes on an external hard drive. The option just isn't there. I've done this before using the same tool, but I was using a live usb of |
| 12:09.25 | sneakers | 12.04 to encrypt my installed 12.04 swap. |
| 12:09.52 | sneakers | So...am I missing a package? Is this functionality missing? What should I use? ...help! :D |
| 12:12.59 | thiago | what KDE partition manager? |
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| 12:13.32 | sneakers | I'm not sure I understand the question. The application "KDE Partition Manager" |
| 12:13.34 | Peace- | :) help with javascript kwin ? |
| 12:14.07 | mgraesslin | Peace-: what do you need? |
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| 12:15.11 | Peace- | mgraesslin: oh martin hello , i would like know how to disable border when a windows is maximized i have read the wiki on tech but i was confused about that option |
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| 12:15.38 | mgraesslin | Peace-: we have a config option for that |
| 12:15.44 | Peace- | mgraesslin: yes |
| 12:15.45 | mgraesslin | you don't need a script |
| 12:15.59 | Peace- | mgraesslin: orkspace.borderlessMaximizedWindows |
| 12:16.06 | sneakers | thiago: partitionmanager 1.0.3-0ubuntu4 |
| 12:16.10 | joules | hi, whats kde 4.9.97 I thought there was only 4.9.95? |
| 12:16.18 | sneakers | I hope that answers the question |
| 12:16.20 | mgraesslin | Peace-: no, it should be options IIRC |
| 12:16.32 | thiago | sneakers: I don't think that's a KDE application |
| 12:16.54 | Peace- | mgraesslin: mm aseigo told me that i can use kwin javacript to disable the border |
| 12:16.56 | mgraesslin | thiago: it is |
| 12:17.02 | Peace- | mgraesslin: is not correct? |
| 12:17.20 | mgraesslin | Peace-: yeah that is correct, you can do that in JavaScript |
| 12:17.21 | thiago | where is it? I thought I had all of KDE checked out and I can't find it. |
| 12:17.22 | Peace- | mgraesslin: i did that collection of panels you know |
| 12:17.25 | sneakers | thiago: http://www.kde.org/applications/system/kdepartitionmanager/ |
| 12:17.36 | mgraesslin | Peace-: but you don't need to, as there's a config option |
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| 12:18.05 | Peace- | mgraesslin: basically i would activate one panel && chang kwin behavior |
| 12:18.16 | Peace- | all with javascript is it possibile ? |
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| 12:18.33 | mgraesslin | Peace-: you don't need JavaScript, just a config option in kwinrc |
| 12:18.44 | Peace- | mgraesslin: ok infact i used that |
| 12:18.52 | Peace- | mgraesslin: but aseigo told me about the javascript |
| 12:18.58 | Peace- | maybe i have understood bad |
| 12:19.23 | mgraesslin | what would JavaScript give you there? You need to write a script to do what is available as a config option? |
| 12:19.37 | thiago | sneakers: I meant where in the repositories |
| 12:19.42 | mgraesslin | and when changing options through the KWin script interface it does not get stored |
| 12:20.04 | Peace- | mgraesslin: ah |
| 12:20.23 | sneakers | thiago: i installed it via synaptic from the universe repository |
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| 12:24.14 | sneakers | (actually, i didn't install it. it was included with the OS. But that's where it says it's from.) |
| 12:26.07 | emilsedgh | thiago: isnt partition manager in extragear? |
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| 12:26.35 | emilsedgh | wonders why everything goes to extragear these days. |
| 12:28.21 | emilsedgh | thiago: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/sysadmin/partitionmanager/ |
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| 13:46.52 | rdieter | swarfega: i don't believe there is one (not from kde upstream anyway) |
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| 13:48.04 | rdieter | kmail so happens to be part of kdepim, yes. |
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| 15:40.06 | NitaChan | Is there a way of making the task panel behave similar to how it behaves in Windows 7, ie. it only shows the icon for the application and no window title? |
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| 15:41.45 | annma | NitaChan: use IconTAsk |
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| 15:42.46 | NitaChan | What's that? |
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| 15:43.11 | annma | an applet that uses icons only |
| 15:43.21 | NitaChan | Can't find such on apt |
| 15:44.04 | Jucato | Icons Only Task Manager. it's a plasmoid/widget, like the default task manager, on the panel. |
| 15:44.26 | Jucato | it's part of kdeplasma-addons (check your distro packages for its name) |
| 15:44.45 | annma | it should be installed |
| 15:45.00 | Jucato | depends on the distro I guess. |
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| 15:47.26 | NitaChan | Soo.... when is this panel going to become stable? It just crashed when I tried to add that thing |
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| 15:50.04 | NitaChan | How the heck do I add the icon task manager to the panel? If I try to drag the thing there the mouse cursor turns into a stop - sign and refuses to work until I press esc, and double-clicking the thing doesn't seem to do anything |
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| 15:55.35 | Jucato | you try to drag it into an empty space in between icons or widgets (or try the edge of the panel) until the icon becomes different. it will actually indicate where you can drop it and make some space for it |
| 15:55.59 | NitaChan | I just said that the cursor turns into a stop sign and does nothing. |
| 15:56.20 | Jucato | everywhere on the panel? |
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| 15:56.41 | NitaChan | Everywhere on the whole screen. It reacts to absolutely nothing unless I press esc. |
| 15:56.46 | Jucato | there are areas where you can't drop it, so it turns into a stop sign |
| 15:56.50 | Jucato | hm ... |
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| 15:58.41 | Jucato | sorry I can't really test right now. not on Linux at the moment |
| 15:58.47 | vbgunz | In KDE 4.9.95, the screen locker password field doesn't get focused on password entry. |
| 15:58.52 | vbgunz | Jucato, what you on? |
| 15:59.05 | Jucato | windows :) |
| 15:59.11 | vbgunz | yay! |
| 15:59.14 | vbgunz | KDE on windows? |
| 15:59.20 | Jucato | partly |
| 15:59.26 | Jucato | kde apps on windows ;) |
| 15:59.36 | NitaChan | Why would anyone want that? |
| 15:59.40 | vbgunz | Good stuff |
| 16:00.02 | vbgunz | NitaChan: cause linux isn't the only player in town :) |
| 16:00.06 | Jucato | because it lessens the pain of using windows :) |
| 16:00.41 | NitaChan | Forget that I said anything, don't plan on starting a flame war right now. |
| 16:00.45 | Jucato | and some kde apps are way better than anything on windows, even if the kde apps don't have full functionality |
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| 16:01.25 | vbgunz | NitaChan: I was once a linux zealot and then I realized I was really just an asshole :) |
| 16:02.11 | NitaChan | I'm not a Linux - zealot. In fact I find Linux quite unuseable on the desktop, but I need it for certain things. |
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| 16:02.32 | NitaChan | I'm just trying to make KDE atleast _somewhat_ bearable. |
| 16:02.33 | Jucato | don't get me wrong. I only use windows for gaming ... which I should be doing any time now ... |
| 16:02.46 | vbgunz | just saying, I went through several linux phases, I am sure someone made a bullet point list about them |
| 16:03.00 | vbgunz | Jucato, you got steam? Got killing floor? |
| 16:03.33 | Jucato | yes. nope. :) |
| 16:03.41 | vbgunz | damn you Jucato! |
| 16:03.50 | Jucato | should probably sleep first though |
| 16:04.01 | NitaChan | After killing the panel I got the icon task manager on there, but now it insists on showing BOTH the mini preview and full window preview of whatever task I hover on. Showing them both is ridiculously stupid, yet I can't find a way of configuring that behaviour.. |
| 16:04.03 | Jucato | sorry NitaChan. normally drag and drop just works |
| 16:04.17 | Jucato | what mini preview? |
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| 16:04.36 | NitaChan | There's a small preview of the window when you hover over the task, similar to how it is on Windows 7 |
| 16:04.44 | Jucato | so what's the full preview then? |
| 16:04.46 | vbgunz | NitaChan: I hated that thing |
| 16:04.48 | NitaChan | But it also insists on showing the actual window itself, too |
| 16:04.56 | vbgunz | right click the taskbar and turn off hints in properties |
| 16:05.15 | vbgunz | I think it's tooltips?? |
| 16:05.21 | Jucato | yeah 2 different things. one is a plasma (desktop/panel) option, the other is a window manager behavior |
| 16:05.43 | NitaChan | And how is a regular user supposed to find such stuff out? |
| 16:06.07 | vbgunz | by digging |
| 16:06.17 | NitaChan | What a great ideology. |
| 16:06.22 | vbgunz | I do think KDE needs more "intuitiveness" |
| 16:06.38 | vbgunz | for example, try to just jump into activities |
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| 16:06.53 | NitaChan | I have no idea what "activities" are. |
| 16:06.55 | vbgunz | don't read up on what activities are, just jump in, good luck |
| 16:07.08 | vbgunz | NitaChan: excellent, now just jump into them |
| 16:07.13 | NitaChan | I don't know how. |
| 16:07.23 | vbgunz | NitaChan: it's sort of my point |
| 16:07.44 | vbgunz | KDE needs more intuitiveness but it lacks in that department |
| 16:08.09 | Gehaktbal_ | i never understood activities while using KDE (never looked it up) |
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| 16:08.24 | Gehaktbal_ | used gnome/kde and currently using kde |
| 16:08.45 | NitaChan | Well, my opinion of KDE could be summarised as: a total clusterfuck of huge amount of options littered all over the place without any sort of logic or coherency, with a few kitchen sinks thrown in for a measure, and an active effort to AVOID any sort of intuitiveness to the whole thing. Alas, that's why I've been spending so long trying to make it bearable. |
| 16:08.48 | vbgunz | I tried playing with it and other than a convaluted pager, I have no real idea how to get the best use out of it |
| 16:09.22 | vbgunz | KDE is definitely bearable |
| 16:09.36 | vbgunz | just has it's quirks |
| 16:09.37 | NitaChan | As much as a needle in the eye is, yes. |
| 16:09.44 | vbgunz | hahaha |
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| 16:10.34 | FLHerne | NitaChan: Organising the options would be nice, but just having them gives it an advantage over anything else :P |
| 16:10.45 | vbgunz | I love KDE, I'm just honest about it, I won't kiss it's ass, it's the DE I prefer but that's probably due to laziness. KDE 3.5 pulled me and I seen KDE mature from 4.0 to what it is now. I am sort of growing with the pains due to my loyalty |
| 16:11.09 | Gehaktbal_ | i tried it before but i always reverted to gnome in the end |
| 16:11.15 | NitaChan | FLHerne: not really. Spreading all the options like that all over the damn place makes it impossible for a newcomer or Average Joe to find them |
| 16:11.27 | Gehaktbal_ | now iam using it for over a year i think |
| 16:11.32 | NitaChan | A good example is what I was just asking a few moments ago because I couldn't figure it out myself |
| 16:11.42 | FLHerne | NitaChan: Then they can ignore the ones they can't find until they find them :D |
| 16:12.00 | FLHerne | has been using it for two years, and still keeps finding new settings to play with |
| 16:12.05 | NitaChan | "ignore all your problems and issues until you know enough how to fix them" |
| 16:12.08 | NitaChan | See the issue? |
| 16:12.42 | vbgunz | that was the primary reason I fell in love with KDE, it had so many options baked in, it could be molded into the ultimate desktop |
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| 16:13.40 | NitaChan | Consolidate the effing thing, group the options in a more logical, coherent whole, and for the love of God, try to make things more intuitive. |
| 16:13.52 | NitaChan | Oh, and fix the panel crashing all the time. |
| 16:13.58 | vbgunz | FLHerne: I don't know about you, but I still after all this time on the 4.0 series gets lost in systemsettings... not exactly lost but I don't exactly find my way straight to what I want without "sifting for it" |
| 16:14.24 | vbgunz | NitaChan: curious but what KDE are you using on what distro? |
| 16:14.40 | FLHerne | NitaChan: The panel hasn't crashed for me since 4.4 |
| 16:14.55 | rdieter | s/panel/plasma/ ? |
| 16:15.02 | vbgunz | yeah, I'm thinking NitaChan might be on a much earlier version |
| 16:15.02 | FLHerne | Admittedly, with 4.0 it crashed every time I added a widget... |
| 16:15.15 | FLHerne | rdieter: Indeed :P |
| 16:15.28 | NitaChan | vbgunz: latest kubuntu |
| 16:15.29 | FLHerne | wasn't using plasma properly then, though |
| 16:15.55 | NitaChan | All I did was try to add the icon task manager - thing on the panel and BOOM, it all crashed. Again. |
| 16:16.07 | Gehaktbal_ | on previous ubuntu i kept getting a crash when shutting down and it would prefent the shutdown...really glad that is out of the way now |
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| 16:22.17 | NitaChan | Why is there so much empty space in the system settings - view? Any way of reducing the empty space? |
| 16:25.14 | FLHerne | NitaChan: Are you using the tree-style view or the icon one? |
| 16:25.27 | NitaChan | icon one |
| 16:25.29 | FLHerne | prefers the tree, it's much easier to find stuff |
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| 16:31.34 | NitaChan | I can't right-click an image in Dolphin and set it as a desktop background, nor can I drag and drop it as a desktop background, nor can I set it view gwenview, either? |
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| 16:34.44 | vbgunz | man, I have a love/hate relationship with phoronix |
| 16:34.57 | NitaChan | Why? |
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| 16:35.26 | vbgunz | I love how they jump into some stuff *but* loathe how they circlejerk the death out of themselves doing it |
| 16:36.25 | NitaChan | Can't say I know what you mean. I read anything there so rarely, and usually I just skip all the fluff and check out only the relevant parts anyways. |
| 16:36.41 | NitaChan | But sure, I take your word for it. |
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| 16:38.08 | vbgunz | just you sort of assume that when an article has several links sprinkled throughout it, some of those links will go elsewhere, but I have the luck of circlejerking myself right back to phoronix |
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| 16:41.40 | NitaChan | Well. Jerking myself is fun. Never tried doing that in a circle, though. |
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| 17:02.43 | NitaChan | What the hell? Is it by design that if I have e.g. a file-selection dialog open I can't use the panel? Or is it some bug? |
| 17:03.41 | thiago | a file selection dialog open, in which application? |
| 17:03.53 | NitaChan | I'm trying to edit a launcher on the desktop. |
| 17:04.07 | NitaChan | Or more specifically, change the icon for it |
| 17:04.19 | thiago | then yes, it's expected |
| 17:04.23 | NitaChan | *facepalm* |
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| 17:28.47 | wget | Hello guys! I've no sound any more when my laptop comes back to work after sleep. I think it's could be related to KDE. As I've the problem since my update to 4.9.95 (kde-unstable branch from ArchLinux). |
| 17:29.16 | wget | Has anyone ever had the problem with 4.10 beta? |
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| 17:34.11 | cb400f | wget: you have sound in non kde apps? .. e.g. vlc or mplayer? |
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| 17:43.42 | wget | cb400f: Nope. |
| 17:44.16 | wget | I seems all sound interfaces listed in alsamixer are muted when I I'm going out from sleep |
| 17:44.18 | cb400f | so it's a deeper level problem.. unless kmix is turned down or something |
| 17:45.08 | wget | cb400f: kmix seems to be down. How do you activate it? |
| 17:45.21 | cb400f | alt+f2 -> kmix |
| 17:45.22 | wget | My keyboard shortcut for sound control aren't working anymore |
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| 17:45.48 | wget | ok thanks cb400f |
| 17:45.53 | wget | it's not KDE related |
| 17:46.20 | wget | When I unmute my sound interfaces, I got a bum, bump bump like this in my speakers |
| 17:46.49 | wget | this annoying sound isn't even stopping, its sounds like a looping sound artefact |
| 17:49.42 | cb400f | well... generally of course pulseaudio would be your first suspect for any audio problem.. especially if it's weird |
| 17:49.52 | cb400f | maybe Lennart doesn't believe in suspend |
| 17:51.52 | wget | cb400f: when I try to kill and restart pulseaudio, I got an error message Failed to create secure directory (/run/user/1000/pulse): Permission denied. But pulseaudio refuses ay command from root user |
| 17:52.29 | cb400f | think pulse is supposed to run as the user |
| 17:53.11 | rdieter | wget: cb400f is right, (as user) run: start-pulseaudio-kde |
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| 17:53.35 | rdieter | (assuming it's already dead, or: pulseaudio -k, to do it) |
| 17:54.46 | rdieter | sounds like you've kernel audio driver problems though, often no amount user-space hand waving can help that short of rebooting (or possibly unloading, reloading the kernel modules related to your audio driver) |
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| 17:59.48 | wget | rdieter: I got this error 'Failed to create secure directory (/run/user/1000/pulse): Permission denied' even run in standard user. |
| 18:00.08 | rdieter | you've got bigger problems |
| 18:00.42 | wget | rdieter: :D |
| 18:01.02 | wget | rdieter: How do you kill the current pulseaudio instance. I tried with pulseaudio -k |
| 18:01.09 | wget | still in standard user mode |
| 18:01.30 | rdieter | pulseaudio -k , asks it to quit, yes |
| 18:01.48 | rdieter | from manpage: Kill an already running PulseAudio daemon of the calling user (Equivalent to sending a SIGTERM). |
| 18:02.37 | rdieter | try rebooting yet? |
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| 18:08.34 | wget | rdieter: Rebooting solves the problem. But as soon I put my laptop to sleep, and come back to work: no sound. |
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| 18:09.17 | rdieter | wget: possible, get a fixed kernel I guess (not a kde problem still) |
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| 18:11.50 | wget | rdieter: I 've just checked in the 3.7.1 changelog: there is no news regarding my audio problem. |
| 18:12.11 | wget | Will try to downgrade my kernel though |
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| 18:34.05 | hyper_ch | good evening fellow KDE users, is this possible: When I have Dolphin open and click in a folder on the desktop that Dolphin opens a new Tab instead of a new Window? |
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| 19:29.17 | dk0r | Any suggestions on how to permanently mount a samba share in dolphin? This isn't working for me: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Samba/Advanced_file_sharing_with_KDE4 |
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| 19:32.58 | hyper_ch | dk0r: permanently? |
| 19:33.17 | dk0r | hyper_ch: permanent, as in, it moutns upon reboot |
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| 19:34.07 | hyper_ch | dk0r: why not use autofs which mounts it when you access it? |
| 19:34.39 | hyper_ch | dk0r: http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/56-ubuntu-autofs |
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| 19:34.46 | dk0r | hyper_ch: I'm unfamiliar w/ all the different options. Do you recommed autofs? |
| 19:35.10 | hyper_ch | has been working fine for me with cifs |
| 19:35.25 | dk0r | okay. I'll try it. |
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| 19:36.05 | hyper_ch | alternatively you could make alittle script... that's what I use on my home/work computer... when running it checks ip to see if it's home or work and then mounts according dirs and starts programs |
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| 19:41.05 | dk0r | hyper_ch: thanks. following samba instructions here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Autofs#Samba |
| 19:41.05 | barraponto | what should i do if kwallet gets corrupted? i thought deleting the wallet and logging out and in again would be enough, turns out it isn't |
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| 19:41.27 | hyper_ch | dk0r: http://paste.debian.net/221704/ |
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| 19:41.52 | hyper_ch | that would be the second version |
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| 19:43.22 | hyper_ch | dk0r: on my home/work computer I prefer doing it by script then it just mounts all the right stuff and starts apps |
| 19:43.32 | hyper_ch | on my pure home computer I use autofs |
| 19:44.11 | dk0r | hyper_ch: I'm new to linux and unfamiliar w/ script use. Trying autofs wiki instructions |
| 19:44.21 | hyper_ch | dk0r: |
| 19:44.33 | hyper_ch | just adjust the script to your needs and also make according fstab entries |
| 19:44.44 | hyper_ch | put ti somewhere on the desktop and make it executable ;) |
| 19:45.04 | dk0r | ti? heh. make executable? heh. |
| 19:45.18 | dk0r | i dont know script file extension if there even is one. |
| 19:45.19 | hyper_ch | actually it's a little bit more complicated than that, because with the script running I also call Konsole, open 4 tabs that connect to different servers |
| 19:45.46 | dk0r | It seems the functionality is great, but it's above my head atm. |
| 19:46.01 | hyper_ch | dk0r: bash scripts usually have no file extension but I like to add them as .sh |
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| 19:46.18 | dk0r | how does linux know its a bash script w/out .sh ? |
| 19:46.39 | hyper_ch | dk0r: 1.) you make it executable |
| 19:46.53 | hyper_ch | 2.) first line in the script is a shebang: #!/bin/bash |
| 19:46.53 | dk0r | hyper_ch: exectuable is done w/ chmod ? |
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| 19:47.09 | hyper_ch | or if you want to run a perl script: #!/bin/perl |
| 19:47.10 | dk0r | hyper_ch: isn't that line a comment? #!/bin/bash |
| 19:47.14 | hyper_ch | or php or..... |
| 19:47.15 | dk0r | oh |
| 19:47.20 | hyper_ch | dk0r: not when it's the first line |
| 19:47.21 | dk0r | so it's not just a comment. |
| 19:47.26 | dk0r | i see. |
| 19:47.34 | hyper_ch | it's shebang or hashbang |
| 19:47.40 | hyper_ch | only works on the first line ;) |
| 19:47.47 | dk0r | idk shebang :) |
| 19:47.50 | hyper_ch | (I think) |
| 19:48.00 | dk0r | got it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix) |
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| 19:48.55 | krzysztof | What should I expect from { korgac --nofork; }? The application is running but nothing shows up. |
| 19:49.14 | dk0r | hyper_ch: what goes in [my_server]? an ip? /media/[my_server] /etc/autofs/auto.[my_server] |
| 19:49.14 | rdieter | got the t-shirt http://www.cafepress.com/mf/71030386/bourne-again-believer_tshirt |
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| 19:50.05 | rdieter | speaking of hash bang, yada yada |
| 19:50.48 | hyper_ch | dk0r: http://paste.debian.net/221705/ |
| 19:50.59 | hyper_ch | dk0r: hostname or ip |
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| 19:51.13 | dziadu | hi |
| 19:51.19 | hyper_ch | and the /media/dddd --> that's where it will be mounted |
| 19:51.24 | dziadu | does KRDC support VNC with ANonymous TLS? |
| 19:51.34 | hyper_ch | that folder must exist |
| 19:51.39 | hyper_ch | and shold be owned by your user |
| 19:51.44 | dziadu | in vncviewer I can select which security options I want use, in KRDC I don't see this |
| 19:51.46 | hyper_ch | so that you as user can mount something in there |
| 19:53.13 | hyper_ch | is this possible: When I have Dolphin open and click in a folder on the desktop that Dolphin opens a new Tab instead of a new Window? |
| 19:53.27 | krzysztof | karbon(10414)/koffice (lib komain) KoDocumentEntry::createDoc: "The service '/usr/share/applications/kde4/karbon.desktop' provides no library or the Library key is missing" |
| 19:54.27 | krzysztof | it seems I need to build calligra |
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| 19:55.26 | hyper_ch | s/build/use the one on the repositories/ |
| 19:55.53 | krzysztof | define "the", my KDE is local for the time being. |
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| 19:56.49 | krzysztof | (until openSUSE gives me 4.9) |
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| 20:02.47 | dk0r | hyper_ch: thanks. still confused about editing /etc/autofs/auto.master with /media/[my_server] /etc/autofs/auto.[my_server] |
| 20:02.59 | krzysztof | konversation.svgz is invalid |
| 20:03.23 | krzysztof | or Gwenview is unable to generate a thumbnail for it |
| 20:03.30 | krzysztof | although it is able to display it |
| 20:03.35 | dk0r | . /media/[my_server] /etc/autofs/auto.[my_server] should be /media/IP /etc/autofs/auto.IP ?? |
| 20:07.27 | hyper_ch | dk0r: [xxx] that's what you should use on your own |
| 20:07.33 | krzysztof | Has the notification icon recently changed the background from transparent to blue? |
| 20:07.35 | hyper_ch | and it's up to you if you want to mount it to /media or not |
| 20:07.42 | hyper_ch | you can also mount it to someplace else |
| 20:08.04 | hyper_ch | what is important however that (a) the mount point exists (b) your current user has write access to it |
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| 20:08.27 | dk0r | hyper_ch: how do I ensure write access if I don't have it? |
| 20:08.40 | hyper_ch | chown it to your user |
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| 20:08.50 | hyper_ch | sudo mkdir /media/IP |
| 20:09.01 | hyper_ch | sudo chown USER:GROUP /media/IP |
| 20:09.09 | hyper_ch | whatever your username and groupname are |
| 20:09.23 | dziadu | when I connect with KRDC then in vnc log I have: SConnection: Client requests security type VncAuth |
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| 20:09.58 | dk0r | hyper_ch: thanks again. |
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| 20:13.49 | jeroen- | it's not in the color settingsd |
| 20:13.50 | jeroen- | s |
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| 20:17.36 | jacklk | Can KDE run on 8GB RAM, Nvidia GT 610 and an AMD Anthlon 640 (Quad Core)? |
| 20:21.14 | krzysztof | Where is the source repository for Oxygen? |
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| 20:23.35 | FLHerne | jacklk: Almost certainly :P |
| 20:24.03 | FLHerne | had KDE4 on a 2.2GHz P4 with 1.5GB once |
| 20:24.04 | jacklk | FLHerne: How well? |
| 20:24.22 | jacklk | Will there be any lag? |
| 20:24.40 | hyper_ch | jacklk: kde can run on 512mb ram, intel gma |
| 20:24.42 | FLHerne | jacklk: Very, probably. My current box is a 2.8GHz PD, and no lag here :-) |
| 20:25.08 | jacklk | Okay, thanks all. (= |
| 20:25.12 | FLHerne | A quad-core with a recent-gen discrete card should be no troubel |
| 20:25.18 | FLHerne | *troble |
| 20:25.24 | FLHerne | *trouble, even :P |
| 20:25.32 | jacklk | But, I have a low end GUP (Nvidia GT 610) |
| 20:25.36 | jacklk | *GPU |
| 20:25.39 | jacklk | Will that be okay? |
| 20:25.41 | hyper_ch | only when there's no driver support for the video card, then you'll have problems |
| 20:26.07 | hyper_ch | jacklk: it depends what you consider as okay |
| 20:26.49 | FLHerne | jacklk: It's not that low-end when compared to anything more than a couple of years old :P |
| 20:26.50 | jacklk | I consider it to be fast and smooth as okay, with no lag |
| 20:27.03 | jacklk | FLHerne: It cost me £30 |
| 20:27.16 | FLHerne | If KDE will run smoothly on a GMA950, it'll run fine on that :P |
| 20:27.21 | jacklk | Seeing at the amount people spend on GPUs these days, it seems low end :) |
| 20:27.25 | krzysztof | The source repository for Oxygen is KDE Runtime |
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| 20:29.31 | hyper_ch | Sysinfo for 'subi': Linux 3.5.0-22-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.9.95, CPU: Intel(R) Core i5-2430M CPU @ 2.40GHz at 2401 MHz (4789 bogomips), HD: 115/161GB, RAM: 6992/7890MB, 264 proc's, 2.8h up |
| 20:29.40 | hyper_ch | works fine here |
| 20:30.24 | hyper_ch | any video card from the last 3-4 years will do fine for kde... but not for gaming |
| 20:32.52 | krzysztof | Workspace has 27M and builds to 2G. |
| 20:33.11 | krzysztof | Calligra has 114M. Does it build to 10G? |
| 20:33.53 | dk0r | hyper_ch: still no luck. mind holding my hand through this autofs config? |
| 20:34.27 | hyper_ch | dk0r: just pastebin what you got but be sure to remove the password |
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| 20:34.43 | dk0r | hyper_ch: thanks. one moment. |
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| 20:36.13 | jeroen- | How to change the glowing blue color around windows? |
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| 20:40.25 | FLHerne | jeroen-: Workspace Appearance&Behaviour -> Workspace Appearance -> Window Decorations -> Configure Decoration -> Shadows -> Active Window Glow |
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| 20:42.09 | jeroen- | FLHerne: great! Thanks!! |
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| 20:43.11 | FLHerne | jeroen-: Alternatively, right-click on a window titlebar -> More Actions -> Window Manager Settings -> Window Decorations and so on :P |
| 20:43.24 | FLHerne | KDE has too many settings :-/ |
| 20:43.48 | jeroen- | FLHerne: I was looking for it under colors |
| 20:44.10 | FLHerne | jeroen-: Which would be a perfectly logical place for it to be :P |
| 20:44.19 | jeroen- | indeed :) |
| 20:45.37 | danharibo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.40 | FLHerne | Trouble is, there are a lot of places that would be perfectly logical :D |
| 20:48.05 | jeroen- | FLHerne: well, It's logical to have colors under colors. A user doesn't think about if the colour is part of a window decoration or not |
| 20:48.32 | jeroen- | Anyhow, the world is also not perfect :) |
| 20:48.38 | FLHerne | But then, it's a coloured window decoration, so it's logical to have it under window decorations :P |
| 20:48.55 | FLHerne | Anyway, its size isn't a colour :P |
| 20:49.11 | jeroen- | FLHerne: only if you as user know that it is part of a window deco |
| 20:49.28 | jeroen- | A shortcut would also be nice |
| 20:49.58 | jeroen- | or just a setting on 2 places |
| 20:49.58 | jeroen- | but than the user may be confused |
| 20:50.26 | FLHerne | Trouble with shortcuts is that there'd be at least twice as many visible 'settings', because you could probably make an argument for any setting to be somewhere else... |
| 20:50.48 | FLHerne | And yes, the user might lose track of which settings were actually the same |
| 20:51.03 | jeroen- | yes |
| 20:51.27 | jeroen- | best thing would be a help text saying were the user can find similar settingds |
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| 20:52.27 | jeroen- | but this particular color setting should be there I think - it should also be themable |
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| 21:18.52 | babalu | i have a widget that got stuck (the widget that sends pastes to pastebin or images to imgur) and now my desktop is frozen; which process should i kill? |
| 21:21.26 | babalu | everytime i kill plasma-desktop and restart it, my system tray gets a weird spacing in it: http://i.imgur.com/tnumc.png is there a way to remove that? |
| 21:22.03 | hyper_ch | is this possible: When I have Dolphin open and click in a folder on the desktop that Dolphin opens a new Tab instead of a new Window? |
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| 21:27.40 | DaZ | babalu: you can always switch notification icon to auto hide :v |
| 21:28.00 | DaZ | if it's not caused by the spacer applet, dunno |
| 21:28.32 | rdieter | probably some app doing something wonky with its systray icon |
| 21:29.18 | babalu | DaZ: rdieter http://i.imgur.com/Q84FF.png |
| 21:29.41 | DaZ | babalu: how about switching it to auto? :v |
| 21:29.50 | DaZ | get rid of it even, install colibri :v |
| 21:30.20 | babalu | DaZ: switching it to auto doesn't help; however switching the top for entries to "hidden" remove the spacing |
| 21:30.27 | babalu | the top 4* |
| 21:30.29 | DaZ | uhm |
| 21:30.43 | rdieter | those 4 entries do look odd |
| 21:32.11 | babalu | rdieter: i kill plasma-desktop again, and got more of those: http://i.imgur.com/BuqxK.png |
| 21:33.24 | babalu | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311989 |
| 21:33.27 | babalu | same behavior there |
| 21:35.17 | DaZ | babalu: do you use kill, or kquitapp? :v |
| 21:35.30 | babalu | DaZ: same behavior with both |
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| 21:38.40 | DaZ | eh, dunno |
| 21:39.00 | DaZ | i've never seen it happen :c |
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| 21:41.26 | babalu | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=293472 it's there, they have a weird workaround (killing kde4 :)) |
| 21:41.39 | babalu | kded4* |
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| 21:43.35 | DaZ | babalu: are you running anything ubuntu related? :v |
| 21:43.45 | babalu | i'm on kubuntu yes |
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| 21:44.53 | DaZ | all those bug reports seem to come from it as well :v |
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| 21:46.16 | DaZ | might be coincidence, might be that it's actually downstream bug. |
| 21:47.15 | babalu | how many bugs are open in kde? and can we see the evolution of the number of open bugs? |
| 21:48.40 | DaZ | https://bugs.kde.org/weekly-bug-summary.cgi ? :v |
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| 23:08.38 | teamedward | i've got my wallpaper in folder view set to the picture of the day > astronomy pic of day but it's only updating when I change to another wallpaper then change back |
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| 23:12.44 | Jeggett_ | Hi Does anybody knows how to use dark kde theme and have white (not black) background color in LibreOffice? |
| 23:16.40 | teamedward | i'm wondering the same thing i have dark theme with white on black text boxes but google doesn't want to play nice with my theme either |
| 23:16.41 | Jeggett_ | Is anybody alive? |
| 23:17.30 | Jeggett_ | Are you talking about Google Chrome? |
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| 23:18.06 | teamedward | no i'm talking google.com in firefox default search boxes remain white with my whitish text |
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| 23:18.24 | Jeggett_ | yes. same problem |
| 23:19.49 | Jeggett_ | I solve your problem just now. |
| 23:20.15 | Jeggett_ | settings > appearance > use gtk theme - in google chrome |
| 23:20.26 | Jeggett_ | but don't know what about mozila |
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| 23:22.53 | Jeggett | Hi |
| 23:23.03 | Jeggett | oh sorry |
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| 23:26.29 | mkinitrd | when i start korganizer on F17 (lxde), it says: QCoreApplication::postEvent: Unexpected null receiver |
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| 23:26.44 | mkinitrd | anyone have a clue what that's about? |
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| 23:28.32 | wgosling | teamedward: Lots of websites will assume the browser defaults to dark text + light background, so they will hardcode one value and assume the other is reasonable. Firefox will be 'helpful' and use your system theme's font color, but will also respect the website when it over-rides it. For google.com, Firefox uses a white-ish font to match your theme and Google.com specifies a white background for the search box, but not a font. |
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| 23:29.55 | teamedward | Jeggett, this might help - go to your system settings > app appearances > colors > options and deselect 'Apply colors to non-KDE applications' I don't like not having a consistent theme but it's quick and dirty until i find a better compromise |
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| 23:31.05 | wgosling | teamedward: You either need to yell at the website to specify both colors, or use a browser that won't try to use your KDE theme font color. |
| 23:32.06 | teamedward | now that i think about it wgosling theres possibly a greasemonkey script to override text-color inside text frames |
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| 23:46.16 | bast1aan | hi |
| 23:46.25 | bast1aan | someone that has a working kde_projects.xml for me? |
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| 23:47.12 | bast1aan | http://projects.kde.org/kde_projects.xml is broken |
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| 23:53.39 | bast1aan | works again |
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