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| 00:34.20 | lainlives | so while using fedora rawhide |
| 00:34.30 | lainlives | KDE seems to have fewest bugs out of all the 'testing' DEs |
| 00:34.56 | lainlives | err well pretty much the entire upstream library tbh |
| 00:34.59 | lainlives | ahah |
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| 02:30.41 | ryaxnb | does KDE still compile on Solaris, BSD, and OS X? |
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| 03:10.35 | ZeDestructor | ryaxnb: I know parts of it do... |
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| 03:36.06 | freislot_RU_ru | when my notebook idle > 1-2 hours all programms and KDE freezes |
| 03:36.10 | freislot_RU_ru | o_O |
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| 05:26.34 | mah454 | In iptables : mangle table (POSTROUTING chain) to nat table (POSTROUTING chain) OR nat table (POSTROUTING chain to mangle table (POSTROUTING chain) ???? |
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| 05:40.36 | thiago | mah454: wrong channel. And you forgot to actually ask your question. |
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| 06:29.41 | deper29 | hey, i'm not sure what happened but I can no longer log into kde with my username. If I try another user on this machine it works fine, but my user I can't get in. Does anyone have any ideas? |
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| 06:33.59 | thiago | can you pastebin the .xsession-errors file found in that user's home dir? |
| 06:35.27 | deper29 | thiago: yup, here it is http://bpaste.net/show/71994 |
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| 06:37.23 | thiago | is that the entire file? |
| 06:37.40 | deper29 | thiago: yeah, I don't know why it's so small |
| 06:37.53 | deper29 | here, let me try logging in again then repaste it |
| 06:38.15 | thiago | ok |
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| 06:40.23 | deper29 | thiago: http://bpaste.net/show/71995 |
| 06:42.07 | thiago | deper29: can you now pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
| 06:42.29 | thiago | this log is telling us that X exited or crashed |
| 06:43.25 | deper29 | thiago: http://bpaste.net/show/71997 |
| 06:43.35 | deper29 | thiago: where is it saying that? |
| 06:45.39 | thiago | can you pastebin the /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old file? This one is the currently-running X. |
| 06:45.48 | deper29 | oh, sorry |
| 06:45.59 | thiago | those "Fatal IO error: client killed" indicate that the X connection closed |
| 06:46.21 | deper29 | http://bpaste.net/show/71998 |
| 06:46.24 | deper29 | ah, I see |
| 06:46.41 | thiago | there are two possibilities: X crashed or X exited. For X to exit, we need startkde to exit, but it hasn't yet because it's still logging stuff |
| 06:46.48 | thiago | so it sounds like X crashed |
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| 06:46.58 | deper29 | it always used to flicker once before I could log in, then I did a system upgrade and now the flicker lasts longer but I don't get logged in |
| 06:46.59 | thiago | a-ha, X crashed |
| 06:47.06 | deper29 | why would it crash? |
| 06:47.08 | thiago | [ 950.953] (EE) Segmentation fault at address 0x0 |
| 06:47.18 | thiago | buggy driver |
| 06:47.27 | deper29 | my nvidia driver? |
| 06:47.31 | thiago | the error message "NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (Permission denied)." might be indicative |
| 06:47.45 | deper29 | but my other user on this machine can log in just fine |
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| 06:47.58 | deper29 | teh driver should be the same, no? |
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| 06:48.29 | thiago | it probably is |
| 06:48.48 | thiago | but a bug might be non-deterministic |
| 06:49.05 | thiago | or, at the very least, it might have an unknown proximate cause |
| 06:49.15 | deper29 | so go back to an older version of the nvidia drivers perhaps? |
| 06:49.35 | thiago | my guess here is that your old user is configured to some desktop effects using OpenGL that cause the driver to crash, whereas the new users have no such config |
| 06:49.45 | deper29 | ahhh, that's probably it |
| 06:49.50 | thiago | before that, I'd investigate that error message about not being able to open the control device |
| 06:50.00 | deper29 | but if I deleted the .kde4/config wouldn't that take care of it? |
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| 06:50.17 | thiago | it would make your old user be like a new user |
| 06:50.26 | deper29 | yeah, that's what I thought |
| 06:50.28 | thiago | you'd lose all of your config and some of your data |
| 06:50.35 | deper29 | I did that |
| 06:50.37 | thiago | don't do it if you can avoid |
| 06:50.41 | deper29 | too late :P |
| 06:50.50 | deper29 | but it didn't do the trick. |
| 06:51.04 | deper29 | I'll try emerging some older nvidia drivers in and see what happens I guess |
| 06:51.07 | thiago | because KDE config is also kept at other places, like ~/.local |
| 06:51.16 | thiago | how about verifying the permissions of the control device? |
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| 06:52.33 | deper29 | how do I do that? |
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| 06:53.05 | thiago | ls -l |
| 06:53.35 | deper29 | sorry, what am I doing ls -l on? |
| 06:53.42 | thiago | the device file |
| 06:53.51 | deper29 | /dev/nvidiactl? |
| 06:53.54 | thiago | yes |
| 06:54.19 | deper29 | crw-rw---- |
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| 06:54.26 | thiago | and the group and user? |
| 06:54.39 | deper29 | root video |
| 06:54.59 | thiago | does your user belong to the video group? |
| 06:55.30 | deper29 | it should |
| 06:55.36 | deper29 | how do I list groups of a user? |
| 06:55.39 | thiago | id username |
| 06:55.40 | deper29 | just cat /etc/passwd? |
| 06:55.51 | thiago | it's actually in /etc/group |
| 06:56.05 | deper29 | oh, what do you know |
| 06:56.21 | deper29 | he isn't in video |
| 06:56.38 | thiago | add to the group and try again |
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| 06:56.52 | deper29 | done and working on it |
| 06:57.30 | deper29 | well, I feel like an idiot now |
| 06:57.54 | thiago | did it work? |
| 06:58.02 | deper29 | I don't know why I have my girlfriend in video and not me...and how I didn't run into this issue earlier |
| 06:58.05 | deper29 | totally it did |
| 06:58.12 | deper29 | thanks a bunch for the help! |
| 06:58.20 | thiago | you're welcome |
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| 06:58.49 | deper29 | here I am recompiling kernels, deleting config, and it was just this |
| 06:58.53 | deper29 | facepalms |
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| 07:01.06 | thiago | it's easy when you know where to look for the information |
| 07:01.34 | deper29 | I suppose so, I'm glad you were able to help with this |
| 07:02.16 | deper29 | helps that you know what some of the lines in these log files mean. makes sense if I look at it now, but at the time it didn't |
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| 11:30.19 | theo | Hey folks. I need to compare 2 po files. Can you tell me what tool to use and where to get it? |
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| 15:33.32 | Draggor | In KDE, for the desktop switching list that pops up, how do I make it list the icons of running programs on each desktop? |
| 15:33.42 | Draggor | The walk through desktops list* |
| 15:35.20 | kdetony | all day... all nigth .. WTF!!! |
| 15:35.23 | kdetony | xDDD |
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| 15:38.21 | Draggor | Oh, joy, this seems to be a bug that was introduced in 4.9 |
| 15:39.34 | Draggor | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=306187 |
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| 16:49.21 | leandroal | I'm using kile on mac os installed using ports. One of the shortcut in kile is to mark a text as italic. I type the combination of keys for this but it does not work. Does someone know how to do this? |
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| 17:06.54 | edgy | Hi, I remember there was a slider in the battery that would ajdust brightness, I couldn't find it anymore |
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| 17:08.46 | DaZ | edgy: i think it's still there |
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| 17:09.59 | edgy | DaZ: my icon is called "Battery Monitor" and to see it I need to click the small arrow next to the clock |
| 17:10.13 | DaZ | and? :v |
| 17:10.21 | edgy | DaZ: now if I left clikc it nothing happpens |
| 17:10.32 | edgy | DaZ: and if I right click it, I get options like |
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| 17:11.01 | edgy | battery monitor settings, panel options, remove this ... |
| 17:11.18 | edgy | DaZ: now what am I doing wrong? |
| 17:11.54 | DaZ | edgy: if you click that arrow with rmb, you get system tray settings, where you can set if the battery monitor is visible or hidden |
| 17:12.02 | DaZ | as for unclickability, dunnolol :v |
| 17:12.36 | DaZ | edgy: also, do you click on the text, or the icon? :v |
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| 17:14.47 | edgy | DaZ: aha! now if I make it visible lmb would work and i can set the brightness |
| 17:15.47 | edgy | DaZ: thanks for the help |
| 17:15.55 | DaZ | yw. |
| 17:16.26 | edgy | DaZ: is this a bug or a normal behaviour to have lmb works only when the icon is visible on the panel? |
| 17:17.15 | DaZ | edgy: it works if you click on the icon instead of text in that popup thingie |
| 17:17.29 | DaZ | if it's a bug, dunno |
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| 17:17.44 | DaZ | but it should be changed someday :v |
| 17:18.20 | edgy | DaZ: aha! You are right, thought I know how to use GUI but seems there is a lot to learn ;) |
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| 17:19.00 | DaZ | it is quite unintuitive :v |
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| 17:19.51 | edgy | I suggest they change the tooltip to say: Ask DaZ in #kde ;) |
| 17:20.22 | DaZ | i suggest someone should report it or patch it and put on the reviewboard :v |
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| 17:24.24 | rindolf | Hi all. How can I take a screenshot of all desktops at once on KDE? |
| 17:24.47 | rindolf | I mean all virtual desktops? |
| 17:25.02 | rindolf | I've seen them in People behind KDE interviews. |
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| 17:30.30 | edgy | rindolf: who said they took the screenshots at once? |
| 17:31.10 | rindolf | edgy: don't know. |
| 17:31.25 | rindolf | edgy: so they worked harder? |
| 17:32.19 | edgy | rindolf: I don't know what you see but I think there in way to do that, you need to take separate screenshots |
| 17:32.29 | edgy | s/in/no |
| 17:32.35 | rindolf | edgy: OK. |
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| 20:27.12 | HypnoGenX | Having a weird issue with KDE 4.9.3 on Gentoo. Every single time I log in, KDE announces that previously available sound hardware (seems to be my onboard sound device) has been removed from the system, and asks if I would like to remove it. After that, no matter wether I say yes or no, the login tune plays just fine. Now KDE itself seems to have no trouble with audio playback, but no non-KDE applications can get audio. Games, media play |
| 20:27.13 | HypnoGenX | ers, everything seems to be denied access to whatever manages audio in the backend. Anyone have an idea where the problem might lie? |
| 20:27.46 | FLHerne | HypnoGenX: Oh, mine does that too (Intel HDA audio). Very annoying :-( |
| 20:28.08 | FLHerne | doesn't log in often enough (weeks apart) to care :P |
| 20:28.21 | FLHerne | Other than when I do, when it annoys me |
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| 20:28.41 | FLHerne | is rapidly creating inconsistent comments :P |
| 20:28.48 | HypnoGenX | "Intel Corporation C600/X79 series chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)" - According to lspci. |
| 20:29.02 | HypnoGenX | So another Intel HDA. Maybe that's relevant. >_> |
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| 20:29.48 | tosky | HypnoGenX: maybe you have no hardware mixing, so once some app has the control on the audio (try lsof /dev/snd/pcm*), other applications can't use it |
| 20:30.05 | tosky | unless you configure alsa dmix plugin, or you use a sound server like pulseaudio or jackd |
| 20:30.08 | HypnoGenX | It used to work fine, but naturally I have no clue when it broke. |
| 20:30.22 | wgosling | HypnoGenX: what do you use for audio? PulseAudio? Alsa? something else? |
| 20:30.37 | HypnoGenX | Pulseaudio -is- running, but I can't seem to find anything that lets me choose. |
| 20:31.26 | HypnoGenX | Closest thing I can find is the KDE settings audio thingamajig mentioning GStream as Phonon backend. |
| 20:31.35 | HypnoGenX | GStreamer even. |
| 20:33.47 | HypnoGenX | Also noticed that there are grayed out entries for my USB headset, which used to work fine but which also has become inoperable some time ago, and that there doesn't seem to be any way to delete these entries. |
| 20:33.48 | wgosling | Um. Did you make sure to compile the non-KDE apps to have pulseaudio support |
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| 20:35.26 | HypnoGenX | Binaries as they are worked fine until recently. Most recently I was playing Minecraft with sound working just fine about two hours ago. Nothing installed, uninstalled, compiled, or edited since. Sound went poof on firing up TrueCrypt, and has been gone since. |
| 20:35.59 | HypnoGenX | I even did a full reboot in exasperation. KDE sound works fine, nothing else does. |
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| 20:37.57 | HypnoGenX | Between ALSA, OSS, Phonon and now PulseAudio, I have no clue what does what anymore. :-\ |
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| 20:40.09 | HypnoGenX | Ok...So PulseAudio uses ALSA drivers for the hardware side, then in turn pretends to -be- ALSA to things requiring that API? And KDE 'stuff' uses Phonon, which supposedly connects to PulseAudio? So I guess that GStreamer thing is supposed to do the PulseAudio connecting bit. |
| 20:40.29 | HypnoGenX | So if KDE has sound, Phonon must be working, GStreamer can get PulseAudio to play nice with ALSA, and all is happy there. |
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| 20:41.10 | HypnoGenX | But then for some reason everything that isn't KDE can't get sound. So I'm assuming these apps aren't KDE aware and couldn't care less about the existence of Phonon, so they must be trying to use the ALSA drivers directly. |
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| 20:41.57 | HypnoGenX | There being sound counts as proof as the kernel drivers atleast working. So what could cause PulseAudio to block normal well-adjusted suburban applications from outputting sound, while it does allow Phonon to do so? |
| 20:43.00 | HypnoGenX | And then ofcourse there's the message KDE gives on login every single time, about hardware having been removed. |
| 20:43.26 | HypnoGenX | Is it possible to clear its 'memory' of what sound hardware is available? Get it to figure it out from scratch again? |
| 20:43.29 | tosky | maybe it's just the phonon configuration that was screwed up |
| 20:45.08 | tosky | HypnoGenX: here is ~/.config/kde.org/libphonon.conf (maybe just move it somewhere else, and please do it before logging in graphically of course) |
| 20:46.39 | HypnoGenX | Guess I'll give that a try, thanks. :-) |
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| 20:49.41 | HypnoGenX | tosky: That solved it. Sound sweet sound. :-P |
| 20:49.46 | HypnoGenX | D'oh. |
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| 20:50.10 | HypnoGenX | Ah well, thanks all. |
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| 21:03.47 | nick_h | can KDE be configured to disable a laptop's trackpad while typing? (i'm using KDE 4.9.4) |
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| 21:06.20 | alienBOB | nick_h: check out synclient. http://gnu-linux-slackware.blogspot.nl/2012/11/disable-or-enable-touchpad-by-synclient.html |
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| 21:06.54 | alienBOB | Don't know if it is able to automatically disable it when it detects typing |
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| 21:48.13 | err-or | hi guys, i like to use konversation but what identd woulkd you recommend? |
| 21:48.30 | Sho_ | err-or: oidentd if you really need an identd |
| 21:49.25 | err-or | Sho_: thanks i'll have a look. :) |
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| 22:18.05 | nick_h | alienBOB: yeah, i tried synclient by running "synclient PalmDetect=1", but it didn't seem to make any difference |
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| 23:06.31 | Paddy_NI | Hey guys I am having a slight panic; my samsung s2 portable hdd has started to "beep" I managed to get it to stop beeping now and I have mounted it successfully |
| 23:06.51 | Paddy_NI | I am wondering what would eb the best way to backup all of the photos on the drive? |
| 23:07.20 | Paddy_NI | My wedding photos or on it as is the raw footage of my wedding day unedited |
| 23:07.24 | Paddy_NI | *are |
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| 23:21.33 | tosky | Paddy_NI: best way apart from cp? |
| 23:22.19 | Paddy_NI | tosky: Yes as that is too picky and I want something to scan recursively through every folder and copy the images |
| 23:22.25 | Paddy_NI | so cp does not really cut it |
| 23:22.33 | danharibo | rsync |
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| 23:23.18 | Paddy_NI | danharibo: again that requires specificity from my part |
| 23:23.43 | danharibo | in what way |
| 23:23.51 | danharibo | What do you want to do exactly |
| 23:23.52 | Paddy_NI | A dedicated application that imports all or any known image types is what I am after |
| 23:24.13 | Paddy_NI | copy all images of this external drive and on to this computer |
| 23:24.17 | tosky | Paddy_NI: photorec |
| 23:24.33 | Paddy_NI | tosky: Is that not for recovering deleted images? |
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| 23:25.09 | tosky | Paddy_NI: yes; otherwise I'm not sure I understood your use case |
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| 23:25.23 | Paddy_NI | they are not lost yet |
| 23:25.28 | tosky | uh, ok |
| 23:25.34 | Paddy_NI | however they are in danger of becoming lost |
| 23:25.52 | danharibo | http://superuser.com/questions/299938/how-can-i-recursively-copy-files-by-file-extension-preserving-directory-structu |
| 23:26.02 | danharibo | should do you goodly? |
| 23:26.06 | tosky | Paddy_NI: a simple script which uses "file" to get the correct files |
| 23:26.27 | Paddy_NI | tosky: Yes providing I don't have to specify extensions |
| 23:26.36 | Paddy_NI | there are literally dozens |
| 23:27.00 | tosky | Paddy_NI: never trust the extensions |
| 23:27.11 | Paddy_NI | danharibo: Sounds good.. but the directory structure is a mess I really do not care about preserving it :-) |
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| 23:28.09 | Paddy_NI | If I caould get something that would scan the entire drive for images and copy them over to this computer (possibly organising them by meta data) that would be the job |
| 23:28.19 | tosky | Paddy_NI: the output of file something, where something is an image, should always contain "image" |
| 23:28.39 | tosky | so with a bit of scripting you should be able to do it |
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| 23:32.02 | Paddy_NI | hmm.... digikam seems to hang when I ask it to "import from my_external_drive" |
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| 23:36.28 | Paddy_NI | Is there any other photo import tool for kde that perhaps is not installed by default? |
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| 23:41.40 | tosky | more than digikam? |
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| 23:52.24 | Paddy_NI | tosky: Never mind I got it to work :-) |
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