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00:09.22pedahzurEver since I upgraded to 4.10, the background on some things is clear, instead of grey. Things such as the panel calendar, the list of additional system-tray icons, the background behind the upper portion (search box) of the K menu, the background behind my "quick access" applet.  What can I do to return these to their previous opaque settings?
00:10.00sythepedahzur: Check your Plasma theme
00:10.56sythepedahzur: Also, you might not be able to make them opaque without difficulty
00:10.56pedahzursythe: Where would I do that?
00:11.23sytheSystem Settings > Workspace Appearance > Desktop Theme
00:11.23pedahzursythe: But they were opaque before the upgrade, and with them clear, it is very hard to read them when things behind them are the wrong color.
00:11.35sythepedahzur: They're not clear for me, at least
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00:11.43sytheThey're blurred transparency
00:12.05pedahzurHmm...Right now, my theme is air.
00:12.16sytheAs is mine
00:12.27sytheCan your system handle compositing and such?
00:13.09sythepedahzur: If you go into the "Details" tab, you can customize the backgrounds, schemes, etc.
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00:13.48sythepedahzur: There's a drop-down for "Translucent Background", you can set it to be an image, if you'd like
00:13.55sytheWhich would presumably make it opaque
00:13.56sythe;)
00:14.08pedahzurIt could do compositing before...as far as I know. Desktop effects are enabled. I can toggle them without any warnings.
00:14.15sytheI'm on the KDE usability team, FWIW
00:14.22sythepedahzur: See above?
00:14.29pedahzurYeah, looking.
00:15.01sytheSystem Settings > Workspace Appearance > Desktop Theme > Details
00:15.43pedahzurI changed Panel Background to "Application dashboard Panel Background" and now it looks like it did before: kind of semi-transparent.
00:15.47pedahzursythe: Thanks!
00:15.54sytheNo problemo ;)
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00:16.29sytheNo usability issues there, really...now the KMix panel applet...that's another story
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00:17.33sytheThen again, Veromix is a heck of a lot worse in that respect
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00:37.20Vash63So, kde-telepathy keeps telling me my Facebook connection is untrusted every time IM Contacts or the plasma-widget load up.
00:37.26Vash63Any way to fix that?
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00:47.41sytheWhat happened to Imgur upload support for Gwenview?
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00:50.39sintrinsicIs there a general error log for desktop crashes in kde4? Every time I resize any terminal, it crashes to the login prompt.
00:51.12sytheBizarre.
00:52.47sintrinsicAgreed. Terminals are the only thing that do it, too. Any other application resizes just fine, but I've tested terminator, konsole, etc
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01:31.17TynachAlright, so this has been happening for a while, but I have no reliable way to replicate it. Every time I launch Chrome from within KDE, it has roughly a 1/10 - 1/20 chance of not opening, sorta. There's a task bar entry to show that it's launching (the type that's a placeholder but means no program has opened yet), but nothing else. If I use 'killall chrome', the outline of a Chrome window flashes briefly, but goes away. Chrome does indeed lau
01:31.17Tynachnch in the background, but KDE won't actually display the window. This only happens in KDE. Anyone else having this problem?
01:32.26TynachI'm in KDE 4.10, but it's been happening since... I don't know. As long as I've been using Chrome under KDE, so 4.5-ish, maybe? I skipped a few KDE versions and used Unity/Gnome for a while. This is Ubuntu, by the way, but I've disabled everything from Gnome, so only KDE services start up.
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01:36.31TynachTL;DR: Chrome occasionally won't open, but a task is running in the background for it. Use killall, see outline of window as it closes. Only in KDE. What do?
01:38.26thiagovery hard to know anything
01:38.37thiagochrome runs in a very modified environment that makes it hard to debug
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01:40.34DaZTynach: chrome or chromium? :v
01:40.48TynachIt happens with both, but right now Chrome.
01:41.11DaZinterdasting
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01:41.32DaZas for chromium i know that the one in ubuntu is patched a bit by them :v
01:42.12TynachHm.
01:42.18TynachSo you think that might work better?
01:42.46DaZi think they broke something and it's waiting for god knows what.
01:44.14TynachWell it only happens in KDE, so I'm kinda thinking it's a KDE problem.
01:44.32TynachLXDE, Xfce, Gnome Shell, Unity all work fine with Chrom(e|ium).
01:44.54DaZdunno, i run chromium and it's fine
01:45.31pedahzurTynach: What version of Chrome or Chromium?
01:45.57pedahzurTynach: I have Chromium 24.0.1312.56-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 installed right now.  I haven't seen that happen for quite a while.
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01:46.10Tynachpedahzur, 25.0.1364.97, but this has been happening for a long time. Perhaps a few years.
01:46.22TynachIt has persisted through reinstalls and OS upgrades.
01:46.36Tynach64-bit.
01:46.51TynachI'll try Chromium.
01:47.00thiagoit has never happened to me and I use chromium all the time.
01:48.38TynachI'll try Chromium again. See how it goes.
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02:02.01pedahzurthiago: Oh, it happened to me with Chromium, but I've just not seen it for a while now.
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03:42.28DrEeevilhmm. I seem to be blind today - does anyone remember how to make kmail fetch all emails for an account so you can read everything offline?
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03:44.01thiagoCtrl+L
03:46.19DrEeevilthat only appears to fetch headers
03:46.37thiagoyou can change the account or folder settings for full download
03:46.42DrEeevilI'd prefer having the mail body too ... the delay of ~5sec while opening a mail suggests that the body is fetched remotely
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04:48.10|Slacker|hello...
04:48.54|Slacker|I canĀ“t control brightness very well in my kde 4.8.5
04:49.27|Slacker|the display auto dims but never returns to normal when I plug the power cord in
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05:09.49DaZwhy there's so many people on 4.8 when there's perfectly fine 4.10 ;_;
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05:14.02|Slacker|I've just reinstalled my system, haven't uograded yet
05:14.51thiagothat's the first thing you do after installing
05:15.48|Slacker|yeah I know...but I'm trying to fix the autodim problem first
05:17.24thiagosuppose the problem is fixed in the update
05:17.50|Slacker|prolly not....unfortunately it's a system wide issue
05:18.10|Slacker|it doesn't work on other DE's as well
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08:19.45rohdefis there a good way to make an external backup of my KDE Wallet? I want it to stay encrypted. Can I just copy the file(s)? In that case where can I find them?
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08:28.38thiagoyes, you can just copy the .kwl files
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11:38.14Sor0wHello. Has someone can explain me how to import S/MIME certificate to Kmail? I can't see my certificate on list ;-(
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12:23.38ovidiu-florinhello world :D
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12:46.49BluesKajHey all
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12:48.32ovidiu-florinare there any projects for kde mobile for this years Gsoc?
12:50.27ovidiu-florinthe techbase website is down
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13:49.24svuorelaovidiu-florin: it is known.
13:49.54ovidiu-florinsvuorela: what happened? :(
13:51.31svuorelastiill being investigated
13:52.49ovidiu-florinwhat is the IM client that KDE promotes right now?
13:52.50ovidiu-florintelepathy?
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13:54.00svuorelathere is both the new and fancy kde-telepathy project and the old well known kopete
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13:55.59ovidiu-florinI'm using pidgin, and would love something that integrates with the KDE more fluidly
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14:59.10DaZeh, i'm not getting previews in that file select thingie :v
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14:59.17DaZcan anybody reproduce.
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15:07.34rdieterDaZ: no previews for *any* files, or only particular kinds?  how big are they?
15:07.52DaZpictures, ~200kb :v
15:08.11DaZit works in dolphin.
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15:10.08DaZthough probably everything doesn't have previews,
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15:48.30ovidiu-florinlinks in PDF files opened in rekonq do not work
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15:52.09rdieterovidiu-florin: what's your default web browser (as set in systemsettings->default applications)?
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15:52.38ovidiu-florinrdieter: google chrome
15:52.56rdieterand... what app is opening the pdfs?  okular?
15:53.32ovidiu-florinI think it's okular, but they are oppened in rekonq
15:54.02ovidiu-florinit has the okular sidebar
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15:54.25rdieterovidiu-florin: try okular standalone, does it behave the same way?
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15:54.54ovidiu-florinone moment
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15:55.36ovidiu-florinrdieter: yes
15:56.22rdieterone last test, change default browser to something else, say konqueror, and see if links now open or not
15:56.30ovidiu-florinthe same PDF opened in Google chrome, the links work just fine
15:57.25ovidiu-florinrdieter: when the cursor hovers over the link the cursor does not change like it does on webpages above links
15:59.31ovidiu-florinrdieter: I changed the default to rekonq. the same effect. nothing happenes.
16:00.05rdieterok, seems we've got ourselves a genuine okular bug.  mind filing one?  => bugs.kde.org
16:01.56ovidiu-florinsure
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16:09.36RedoubtIs forum.kde.org down?
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16:09.50RedoubtAnd userbase.kde.org for that matter
16:10.58neverendingoRedoubt: yes, and it is already known
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16:12.48Redoubtneverendingo: Okay, thank you-- I figured, but wanted to make sure
16:12.58neverendingoyes, thanks
16:13.19Redoubtneverendingo: Any ETA on when it'll be back up?
16:13.44neverendingoRedoubt: we are waiting for the hoster, as sysadmins don't get access anymore, so sadly not
16:14.25Redoubtneverendingo: No problem, can't be too long, eh?
16:14.43neverendingoi have no clue, so i better shut up ;)
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16:15.10Redoubtneverendingo: Heh heh. Alright well, I'll wait to access my forum posts just like everyone else :)
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16:15.28Redoubtneverendingo: Thanks again
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16:16.09neverendingoRedoubt: np, you can watch http://identi.ca/kdesysadmin for updates
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16:20.45absencehi! i have some old files from kword 1.2 i think. what's the easiest way to open them? (unzipping and looking at xml in a text editor does not count)
16:21.16rdieterabsence: try recent koffice/calligra?
16:21.38absencecalligra doesn't support kwd files
16:22.28absenceif there's an easy way to run an old version of koffice, that would be nice, but it's not in official ubuntu anymore at least
16:23.13absenceor recent version of koffice for that matter, i don't know how long it has been discontinued
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16:24.04svuorelaabsence: take a kword 1.6 and convert to odt
16:24.53absencesvuorela: why 1.6? is that the latest, or latest with kwd support?
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16:28.07neverendingoabsence: tried abiword already?
16:28.15svuorelaabsence: the latest with kwd support
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16:28.21absenceneverendingo: yes, it fails
16:28.40absencesvuorela: ok, good to know. what's the easiest way to get it up and running?
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16:31.16absencei'm thinking ubuntu live iso from 2008 in a vm
16:31.40absencebut if someone knows of something simpler i'd be all for it :)
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16:44.26svuorelaabsence: I think something like that is the easiest ..
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16:45.27absencesvuorela: yeah, already got it running :) just have to transfer the files to see if it works
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17:00.00ovidiu-florinthere's a bug in Kontact/Kmail that show that threre are new/unread messages in a folder but they don't show up in the message list untill Kontact is restarted. I can't find this bug in bugs.kde.org, but I know it exists, because I saw someone mention it. I just can't find it.
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17:04.29absenceyay it works, thanks guys!
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17:13.23ovidiu-florinhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315818
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17:18.39DaZovidiu-florin: it works here, lol :c
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17:20.10ovidiu-florinyeah... I've noticed it in a different pdf
17:22.32ovidiu-florinI'm researching now to find out how that PDF was generated
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18:41.14ovidiu-florinGotta go. See you soon. ;)
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19:16.30nanderHi
19:16.41nanderwhen I press alt-tab I can alt-tab into my old xfce4 desktop
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20:49.04bouncingSo you know how you can drag around windows by their empty space? For some reason, that doesn't work in my PyQt app. Anyone know how to enable that feature?
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22:02.30evilytwistedHi, How do i get my sound working.. im using kde 14  i install pulse audio controller.. But nothings working
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22:03.48phiscribetry alsa mixer
22:04.02phiscribemake sure mute is not toggled
22:04.14Inkaneevilytwisted: there is no such a thing like KDE 14
22:04.34Inkanealso, are you using pulseaudio?
22:05.03evilytwistederm... i dont know about pulse audio
22:05.59evilytwistedInkane:  i didnt bother adjusting anything from sount input..
22:06.12evilytwistedi installed linuxmint... erased cinnamon.. then put kde
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22:06.52Inkaneevilytwisted: as I don't know what mint ships by default, best ask in their IRC chanel, if no one knows the answer here
22:07.28evilytwistedmight do that..
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