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| 03:52.54 | jalcine | Does rekonq share its cookies with other KDE applications? |
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| 03:56.07 | akosgheri | jalcine: its at least sharing cookies with Konqueror |
| 03:58.56 | thiago | jalcine: it shares with all KIO-based applications |
| 03:59.14 | jalcine | thiago: that's what I suspected. |
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| 03:59.28 | jalcine | and it might be a bit of a problem. |
| 04:00.04 | jalcine | I have an odd case scenario, where clicking on an link within KMail opens in rekonq but the link goes to a page that requires me to be logged in. |
| 04:00.38 | jalcine | it keeps asking me to log in, even though the URL doesn't include any indication of a login request. That leads me to believe that cookies weren't shared. |
| 04:00.55 | jalcine | that KIO and QWebKit aren't saving to the same place. |
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| 14:59.36 | _Stefano_ | Hi, everyone |
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| 15:00.06 | _Stefano_ | Anyone know how can i join IRC using KDE Telepathy? |
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| 15:05.41 | juliohm | Hi, my file association settings are not working as expected, i have a x-matlab mime-type for the *.m file pattern and the files are being recognized as TeX documents which don't have *.m as a pattern. |
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| 15:09.29 | roney | juliohm: Did you try to define the default application to open such files? |
| 15:10.09 | juliohm | roney, the problem is not the default application, but the icon used and default settings for TeX documents |
| 15:10.21 | juliohm | I would like to fix it in the right place |
| 15:10.32 | juliohm | default applications are chosen after a type is selected |
| 15:11.10 | juliohm | The most weird part is that *.m pattern is not found in TeX patterns |
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| 15:11.34 | juliohm | System Settings -> File Associations, type *.m |
| 15:12.17 | juliohm | The TeX type won't be listed, there will be a x-matlab where i have set the icon |
| 15:12.47 | juliohm | So, every *.m file should be recognized as a MATLAB script with the proper icon |
| 15:13.25 | juliohm | How to debug the file association in KDE? |
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| 15:22.53 | cardamon | Do I need plasma running to run kde's netowrkmanager frontend, since it's a plasma widget? |
| 15:23.07 | juliohm | cardamon, i think yes. |
| 15:23.45 | juliohm | That's really annoying when trying to simply use a network manager from an alternative lightweight window manager such as Openbox |
| 15:24.17 | juliohm | You'll have to install another app, i think knetwork is the name, i don't remember |
| 15:24.25 | cardamon | juliohm: agreed. nm-applet is only available from the gnome packages in debian. |
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| 15:27.27 | cardamon | I'm fiddling with using xmonad and KDE as a DE backend. So far what I've done is make a .desktop file for KDM that runs a copy of startkde and sets KDEWM to xmonad |
| 15:27.45 | cardamon | It still runs all the plasma stuff though, which is a little annoying. |
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| 15:41.46 | erfanian | _Stefano_ I feel like that was removed from telepathy. |
| 15:44.11 | tosky | juliohm: I'm not an expert, but MIME type are not recognized only by extension, but also from the content. kdelibs uses the freedesktop shared-mime-info information (plus few locally defined) |
| 15:45.57 | tosky | juliohm: so maybe the content of the file is simply too close to the one which matches TeX files |
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| 15:48.55 | tosky | juliohm: what if you try kmimetypefinder (from the command line) on that file? Without parameters, with -c, with -f |
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| 16:10.00 | rot13 | Hi all. Kwin is rendering the titlebar font incorrectly (seems not to use the same settings as the toolkit so the text isn't aligned properly) is anyone familiar with this? (kubuntu 12.10 64bit kwin 4.9.5) |
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| 16:15.49 | rot13 | here's an example: http://imgur.com/xqfpNHn |
| 16:15.59 | juliohm | tosky, sorry for the delay, i'll investigate the kmimetypefinder tool, thanks. |
| 16:18.37 | tosky | rot13: and of course did you try to play with systemsettings -> "Application appearance" -> Fonts? |
| 16:18.51 | rot13 | eg the topmost title looks like "l ib - Dolph in". presumably it's a configuration issue but I've not had much luck tracking it down. |
| 16:19.03 | rot13 | fraid so tosky. |
| 16:19.35 | juliohm | tosky, perfect, you found the problem |
| 16:19.55 | juliohm | with the name, it's x-matlab, with the content it's a x-tex |
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| 16:20.56 | juliohm | tosky, this is to be considered a bug, i think. |
| 16:21.12 | juliohm | Should i work with shared-mimetype-info |
| 16:21.17 | juliohm | to fix the bug |
| 16:21.19 | juliohm | ? |
| 16:21.30 | juliohm | let me clone the repo again |
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| 16:22.25 | tosky | juliohm: you can try to fix the recognition pattern in shared-mime-info; for sure you will need to provide a sample file |
| 16:22.32 | juliohm | yes |
| 16:22.47 | juliohm | tosky, any instructions to follow? |
| 16:22.53 | tosky | juliohm: on the other side, try to check the shared-mime-info file and see what it is expecting to recognize it as a matlab file |
| 16:22.58 | juliohm | have you ever fixed some in the past? |
| 16:23.04 | juliohm | ok |
| 16:23.07 | tosky | it's a simply XML file |
| 16:23.59 | tosky | rot13: uhm, does it happen with any font? |
| 16:24.50 | juliohm | tosky, git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/xdg/shared-mime-info |
| 16:24.59 | juliohm | i can't find any *.xml there |
| 16:25.06 | tosky | juliohm: you can start playing with the one on your system |
| 16:25.07 | juliohm | i did ./autogen.sh already |
| 16:25.13 | rot13 | Seems so. If I use identical fonts in applications and kwin, they are rendered differently. I've no done an exhaustive test but thus far that has been the case. |
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| 16:25.21 | juliohm | tosky, good point |
| 16:25.24 | tosky | here on Debian is /usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml |
| 16:25.32 | DaZ | fancy kwin you got there >_> |
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| 16:25.45 | tosky | mayne it's generated from snippets when you "compile" the package |
| 16:25.51 | DaZ | does it happen on the default settings as well? :c |
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| 16:26.25 | DaZ | since there's plenty of non vanilla stuff unrelated to kde that can set that font. |
| 16:26.30 | rot13 | Yeah, I'm putting together a theme. I think so, let me check. |
| 16:26.47 | tosky | rot13: have you tried with the default theme for every component? Just to restrict the issue |
| 16:27.05 | rot13 | oxygen yes? |
| 16:27.07 | tosky | so oxygen and co |
| 16:27.19 | juliohm | tosky, both x-matlab and x-tex look for comments beginning with % |
| 16:27.25 | rot13 | i'll hammer the defaults button. brb |
| 16:27.52 | DaZ | you could always move ~/.kde4 somewhere else |
| 16:27.55 | DaZ | it'd probably fix it <: |
| 16:28.01 | juliohm | tosky, but the x-matlab is listed after x-tex |
| 16:28.06 | juliohm | probably simply switch? |
| 16:28.07 | juliohm | let me try |
| 16:28.14 | tosky | juliohm: x-matlab also looks for "function " |
| 16:28.43 | juliohm | yes |
| 16:28.47 | juliohm | that's correct |
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| 16:28.59 | juliohm | maybe i should simply change the priority of the %? |
| 16:29.09 | rot13 | whoosh.. ok, i'll kill lightdm and try that. brb. |
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| 16:29.43 | tosky | juliohm: but then "function " has an higher priority then the match coming from "%" |
| 16:29.53 | tosky | mhh... |
| 16:29.56 | juliohm | hmmm, understand |
| 16:30.14 | juliohm | anyways, since the glob *.m is not listed in x-tex, it shouldn't match |
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| 16:30.26 | juliohm | i think this is a bug |
| 16:30.31 | tosky | not sure, but if you change the file you should call kbuildsyscoca4 to regenerate the cache used by KDE |
| 16:30.45 | tosky | it could be, yes |
| 16:31.24 | tosky | if you file a bug, remember to attach a file showing the issue |
| 16:31.30 | juliohm | tosky, i'll simply do a bug report, i'm lazy to reconfigure all this manually, it's too dangerous to my working machine |
| 16:31.34 | juliohm | ok |
| 16:31.39 | juliohm | thanks for the help |
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| 16:46.54 | rot13 | It does fix the problem DaZ, thanks. I still don't know what exactly is causing it but I should be able to figure it out by a process of elimination now. Cheers :) |
| 16:47.12 | DaZ | that's not really a good solution though >: |
| 16:47.55 | DaZ | finished reading the message and now thinks that it's a good solution actually |
| 16:49.40 | rot13 | It's true that I'd rather not lose all my kde config but If I restore the theme settings one by one and it happens again, I stand a better chance of localising it. |
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| 16:50.05 | rot13 | Many thanks :) |
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| 18:04.05 | francogrex | I replace gnome with kde, I feel it is much heavier and PC is slower... Which is lighter? |
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| 18:05.20 | Okitain | Strip KDE of visual effects. |
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| 18:05.34 | Okitain | And install 4.10 - it's fast as lightning. |
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| 18:06.25 | Okitain | Anyone got experience with v4l flipping? |
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| 18:09.52 | francogrex | Okitain: all I did was apt-get install kde, how do i strip of unwanted effects? |
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| 18:19.44 | francogrex | how? answer me |
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| 19:16.41 | DaZ | freeedrich|: is doing it manually fine? :v |
| 19:17.10 | DaZ | kcmshell4 kwincompositing, or lurk in systemsettings. |
| 19:17.44 | DaZ | freeedrich|: kde feels heavier mostly because the effects settings and desktop search |
| 19:17.51 | DaZ | fo if you'll fiddle with those, you'll be fine :v |
| 19:19.35 | freeedrich| | DaZ: something about your autocompletion isn't working correctly. |
| 19:19.49 | DaZ | eh, shit |
| 19:19.51 | DaZ | sorry ;_; |
| 19:20.06 | DaZ | he left, and i'm filtering it out. |
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| 19:41.55 | reggie_ | Hey folks does emerald theme manager work in the latest stable KDE? |
| 19:42.05 | reggie_ | using linux mint and having a hell of a time |
| 19:42.17 | reggie_ | getting it to work or I should say install |
| 19:43.37 | reggie_ | also is it a good idea to even mess with compiz on KDE? |
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| 19:46.00 | Okitain | reggie_: it's a good idea to use kwin, but not a bad one to use compiz. |
| 19:46.10 | Okitain | works, at least. |
| 19:46.22 | reggie_ | humm thanks okitain |
| 19:47.35 | Okitain | emerald is "yes you can. but why?" |
| 19:48.27 | reggie_ | I just like the way it looks no real solid reason to be honest |
| 19:48.44 | reggie_ | running linux mint 14 with kde 4.10 |
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| 19:51.38 | reggie_ | how to activate compiz after installation Okitain |
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| 19:51.39 | reggie_ | ? |
| 19:52.08 | Okitain | I don't have it installed, but I think it's somewhere in KDE settings. |
| 19:53.45 | Okitain | Here: default applications - window manager |
| 19:53.50 | Okitain | and switch. |
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| 19:55.03 | reggie_ | okay I will give it a try , have to get ready for a wedding, so thanks again for your help |
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| 19:56.02 | Okitain | Suddenly I am reminded of "Internet Dream" by the guy who made Chocolate Dream. |
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| 19:56.08 | Okitain | *rain. |
| 19:56.10 | Okitain | of course. |
| 19:56.29 | xXSe7enXx | hi.. why cant I mount my hard drive partitions that are EXT4 using Dolphin, it says Authentication is Required |
| 19:56.51 | xXSe7enXx | it doesnt ask me for a root password though |
| 19:56.56 | thiago | xXSe7enXx: is that a removable disk? |
| 19:57.06 | xXSe7enXx | thiago, no it is not |
| 19:57.11 | thiago | xXSe7enXx: that's why then |
| 19:57.21 | thiago | xXSe7enXx: most systems are configured to require root password to mount non-removable disks |
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| 19:57.42 | Okitain | Well, you can mount them via gparted or anything your system came up with. |
| 19:57.52 | xXSe7enXx | thiago, who do I make it ask for a root password |
| 19:58.07 | thiago | xXSe7enXx: udisks |
| 19:58.17 | xXSe7enXx | Okitain, I know , I'd even use "mount" but I prefer clicking |
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| 19:58.38 | xXSe7enXx | thiago, should I have that installed ? or .. |
| 19:58.45 | Okitain | xXSe7enXx: yep. |
| 19:59.00 | xXSe7enXx | doing that , thank you |
| 19:59.01 | Okitain | but it usually asks for the permission. |
| 19:59.15 | Okitain | What distro are you on? |
| 19:59.21 | xXSe7enXx | that's what I want it to do |
| 19:59.22 | thiago | xXSe7enXx: you have that installed |
| 19:59.28 | thiago | xXSe7enXx: you just need to change its polkit configuration |
| 19:59.31 | thiago | xXSe7enXx: it's not a KDE issue |
| 19:59.33 | xXSe7enXx | I'm on Solus which is practically Debian |
| 19:59.59 | xXSe7enXx | thiago, nautilus doesnt have similar issues I should point out |
| 20:00.22 | thiago | xXSe7enXx: it's still a udisks / polkit issue |
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| 20:00.52 | Okitain | Maybe you could go to debian's wiki? |
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| 20:01.00 | xXSe7enXx | okay how do I fix polkit confs ? |
| 20:01.06 | Okitain | It's definitely not a kde issue. |
| 20:01.13 | xXSe7enXx | should I leave the channel ? |
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| 20:01.45 | thiago | xXSe7enXx: you don't have to leave |
| 20:01.47 | Okitain | No, we're fine with you being here, but you could ask deb to see what is the problem. |
| 20:01.51 | thiago | xXSe7enXx: but we don't know how to help you |
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| 20:02.15 | xXSe7enXx | okay thnk you very much |
| 20:02.23 | xXSe7enXx | I'm joining #debian |
| 20:02.33 | ompaul | is this a debian packaging issue *(just joined here) |
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| 20:02.59 | xXSe7enXx | not exactly , more like a mounting issue |
| 20:03.03 | xXSe7enXx | on Debian |
| 20:03.18 | ompaul | version? |
| 20:03.43 | xXSe7enXx | well it's SolusOS 2 alpha 5 |
| 20:03.57 | xXSe7enXx | which Debian testing I think |
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| 20:04.41 | ompaul | from what it says on it's website is it (A) not debian testing (B) not debian hang on a sec |
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| 20:05.15 | ompaul | xXSe7enXx: what they say on their web site they offer irc on this: http://solusos.com:9090/ |
| 20:05.51 | xXSe7enXx | well it's based on Debian . and I though since I installed KDE they're going to be dismissive |
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| 20:06.06 | ompaul | xXSe7enXx: once it it is not debian but something downstream noone on the debian channels will know exactly what changes so you won't get help there |
| 20:06.13 | Okitain | ompaul: with one user online, and that one an op, I bet. |
| 20:06.28 | xXSe7enXx | :P |
| 20:06.35 | ompaul | Okitain: then my suggestion is run debian |
| 20:06.49 | ompaul | you really won't get help in a debian channel with something derived from debian |
| 20:07.00 | Okitain | (i was being facetous) |
| 20:07.01 | xXSe7enXx | it's all good thank you anyway |
| 20:07.09 | ompaul | Okitain: ah :) |
| 20:07.13 | xXSe7enXx | here's a KDE-related question though |
| 20:07.18 | thiago | xXSe7enXx: take a look at the polkit configuration files that udisks installs |
| 20:07.33 | xXSe7enXx | thiago, sorry, where are those |
| 20:07.35 | ompaul | xXSe7enXx: what is your mounting issue please give info on paste.kde.org or paste.debian.net |
| 20:08.02 | thiago | xXSe7enXx: use debian's package manager to find out |
| 20:08.07 | thiago | xXSe7enXx: the equivalent of rpm -ql |
| 20:08.14 | ompaul | apt-cache search foo |
| 20:08.31 | xXSe7enXx | ompaul, dolphin simply says , Authentication Required when I click on a drive partition , noting that they are EXT4 |
| 20:08.47 | xXSe7enXx | thiago, doing that |
| 20:08.51 | ompaul | xXSe7enXx: on the local machine or far away? |
| 20:09.05 | xXSe7enXx | ompaul, this very machine |
| 20:09.17 | xXSe7enXx | not even removable |
| 20:09.31 | ompaul | xXSe7enXx: do the following and paste the output in either pastebin named above, as root fdisk -l |
| 20:09.47 | ompaul | and then df -h |
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| 20:11.50 | xXSe7enXx | http://pastebin.com/bsP4AiLR |
| 20:12.29 | xXSe7enXx | df output : |
| 20:12.30 | xXSe7enXx | http://pastebin.com/Hw48eXv1 |
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| 20:13.02 | ompaul | xXSe7enXx: which partitions do you want to "touch"? |
| 20:13.38 | xXSe7enXx | whichever, it doesnt mount any |
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| 20:14.08 | ompaul | what are they containing |
| 20:14.28 | ompaul | there is a reason you can't touch them - I'm trying to establish what that reason is |
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| 20:15.16 | ompaul | they are not mounted put the following into your konsole and paste it mount |
| 20:16.28 | xXSe7enXx | they mount with nautilus and "mount" just fine |
| 20:16.33 | ompaul | then do this mkdir /disk2 ; mount /dev/sda2 /disk2 ; cd disk2 |
| 20:16.56 | ompaul | in nautilus it mounts them as oh some name it gives them - albeit temp |
| 20:17.02 | ompaul | but they are not mounted by the machine |
| 20:17.23 | ompaul | and therefore not visible - things are not replacements they are alternatives that is they will be similar but not the same |
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| 20:17.33 | ompaul | dolphin expects you to mount it |
| 20:17.38 | ompaul | and then it will let you browser |
| 20:17.41 | ompaul | and then it will let you browse ever |
| 20:17.45 | ompaul | slaps self |
| 20:17.47 | ompaul | even |
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| 20:19.09 | xXSe7enXx | well I've been using Dolphin on various distros , it usually requests for the root password and just mounts them |
| 20:19.17 | xXSe7enXx | I'll mount them manually |
| 20:19.18 | xXSe7enXx | sec |
| 20:20.21 | xXSe7enXx | God! |
| 20:20.29 | xXSe7enXx | why didnt I guess this |
| 20:20.38 | xXSe7enXx | I didnt install kdesudo |
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| 20:24.31 | xXSe7enXx | it mounts when I use "kdesudo dolphin &" |
| 20:24.48 | xXSe7enXx | but not when i start dolphin as a normal user |
| 20:25.02 | xXSe7enXx | at least that's progress |
| 20:26.49 | Okitain | xXSe7enXx: Maybe you should install the KDE metapackage? |
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| 21:55.49 | cardamon | Hey, trying to run KDE with a seperate WM by setting export KDEWM and KDEHOME to ones specifically for this DE and WM combo. |
| 21:59.36 | cardamon | To this end I made those changes in a copy of the startkde, which is run from a .desktop session file copied from the existing kde one and editted to point to the right place. |
| 22:01.50 | cardamon | But when I went into System Settings and turned off Plasma in autostart, it turned it off in the unaltered KDE Desktop as well |
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| 22:03.51 | cardamon | So how do I get these two sessions to track different settings? |
| 22:03.57 | tosky | cardamon: if you simply want to run the KDE Workspace with a different WM, why is the option in systemsettings -> Default Applications not enough |
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| 22:04.53 | cardamon | tosky: Because it won't let me. It doesn't recognize my WM I suppose. |
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| 22:05.04 | cardamon | In answer to your next question, xmonad. |
| 22:05.27 | tosky | cardamon: so make sure it recognize it |
| 22:05.44 | tosky | cardamon: I think it's just a matter of having the proper desktop file |
| 22:06.02 | tosky | which is, if I'm not mistaken, the one recognized also by the login manager |
| 22:06.13 | CESSMASTER | has anybody here used the tags kioslave? I can use it to create new tags (by creating a new folder in tags:/) and the new tags show up in "add tags" menus in dolphin, but do not appear in tags:/ until I log out and log back in |
| 22:06.30 | CESSMASTER | this is with dolphin 2.2 and kde 4.10.00 |
| 22:06.41 | cardamon | tosky: I've got one of those also. |
| 22:07.00 | cardamon | Runs the pure wm with no KDE backend or plasma. |
| 22:07.02 | CESSMASTER | is this due to some misconfiguration on my system or is it the software itself |
| 22:07.30 | tosky | CESSMASTER: no idea, but before filing a bug please wait few days and try again with 4.10.1 which will be released in a week or so |
| 22:09.52 | cardamon | How about my other question? |
| 22:10.37 | tosky | cardamon: I'm not sure what you want to achive |
| 22:10.38 | cardamon | I want to track two different Settings based on which .desktop file KDM uses. |
| 22:10.41 | CESSMASTER | also i recently upgraded qt4 (and maybe some other kde-related things) and now the interface to alt-tab between iwndows is unusably slow |
| 22:10.54 | CESSMASTER | but unpredictably |
| 22:11.16 | tosky | cardamon: if you want to use KDE Workspaces with a different WM, configure the WM to appear in the list in systemsettings, and use it |
| 22:11.20 | CESSMASTER | actually it looks like rebooting to check out the tags thing fixed that |
| 22:11.21 | CESSMASTER | oh well |
| 22:11.30 | cardamon | I |
| 22:12.05 | tosky | cardamon: if you want to use Workspaces without Workspaces... which component of KDE do you want to run? If you need applications, you can run it on any WM/DE |
| 22:12.14 | cardamon | I'm not sure I want Workspaces. And I would still rather have the option of logging in to the stock KDE setup at KDM. |
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| 22:12.52 | tosky | it's an use case, but I'm not sure it's supported |
| 22:13.00 | cardamon | tosky: They're slow to start without the backend, and I thought the semantic desktop stuff might enhance the experience. Plus I use kioslave in dolphin for my android tablet. |
| 22:13.39 | tosky | cardamon: kioslaves do work even when you are not using the Workspace |
| 22:13.58 | tosky | or at least, the loader of the application should load afaik the needed components |
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| 22:14.58 | cardamon | What's the point of setting $KDEHOME in the startkde script if the settings for what autostarts aren't stored/referenced from there. |
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| 22:16.56 | CESSMASTER | that's weird, it takes like a second for the task switcher to appear. once it does, going through the windows with the tab key works fine, but going either forward or back is incredibly slow and proceeds at like 3fps |
| 22:17.11 | tosky | cardamon: I have to pass, as I don't know too much the internal of startkde and I can't dig it into it now, sorry |
| 22:17.13 | CESSMASTER | does anybody know where i should look to diagnose this |
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| 22:32.37 | pravesh | hi |
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| 22:47.13 | Justice | um Im having issues with umbrello, for some reason it cannot export to a image file for me. Any ideas how to debug this? |
| 22:49.01 | Justice | http://codepad.org/2kCiONHr |
| 22:49.13 | Justice | im guessing something is wrong with the type selection since it gets imagetype="" |
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| 22:53.19 | krakrjak | Justice: yeah and just before that it tries a PNG export and fails too... looks like it doesn't know what type it's trying to export to. |
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| 22:55.44 | Justice | krakrjak, yeah I tried to export to png before and it seems it tries to find the last export it did. |
| 22:56.34 | krakrjak | Justice: strange... it looks like something is up with your libraries as the KIO is dying. You're in a similar place to me. |
| 22:56.57 | Justice | its even funky with the name of the file. It automaticly chooses class-diagram.jpeg or any other. |
| 22:57.05 | krakrjak | Justice: I'm trying to get kio-mtp working and I'm stuck at how to debug the issue. The kio slave is dying early which is similar to what's going on with the PNG export in your post. |
| 22:57.07 | Justice | then ads a dot after |
| 22:57.23 | krakrjak | .... really odd. |
| 22:57.54 | Justice | dunno bugreporting it now to umbrello but it may be KIO |
| 22:58.09 | Justice | the unknown protokoll happens when you type in something it does not know its a filetype |
| 22:58.16 | Justice | .jpeg and remove the g |
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| 23:02.40 | Justice | hm bugreporting this to umbrello lets hope they got some devs on it. |
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| 23:56.32 | unixfreak | hi, does anyone know if it's possible to autologin through kdm via a keyfile? for instance, if i have a password file saved on an sdcard, can i get it to log me in automatically when the sd card is mounted? |