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00:01.43ArchGamertosky, scottman, I found this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_Look_for_Qt_and_GTK_Applications -- also I dled kde-gtk-config but it doesn't allow color scheme changes.
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00:11.26ArchGamertoksy, scottman -- fixed it using arch packages -- kde-gtk-config oxygen-gtk2 oxygen-gtk3  -- once you use those themes, they will accept color scheme changes.
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00:11.53ArchGamertosky, scott ty. ^
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00:36.01geomyidaelol, I found another way to break oxygen-gtk
00:36.17geomyidaeIt's almost like there is an RNG inside oxygen-gtk choosing randomly from icon sets which to display
00:36.35geomyidaenow it's somehow displaying some tango-ish icons even though I don't have them installed, lol, on a fresh kubuntu install >_<
00:36.50Jucatowhat app?
00:36.57geomyidaeall gtk gapps
00:37.00geomyidaeapps*
00:37.28Jucatomaybe you didn't install them yourself but something pulled them in. or they're not really "tango" but another set that is actually installed by something else
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00:38.04geomyidaeI'll link you to my support thread, it's really definitely an issue with oxygen-gtk
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00:38.11Jucato(I actually have a mix of such icons in apps like Inkscape, for example)
00:38.17geomyidaedepending on if a pkg is installed, with identical gtkrc files, different fonts are chosen
00:38.33geomyidaeand then, now in kubuntu, same gtkrc, a 3rd different icons* (not fonts) are shown instead
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00:50.02geomyidaeanyway, this is the link http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=110326&p=261544#p261544
00:50.23geomyidaesorry just had to deal with a chrome bug that resulted in that bookmark along with dozens others being eaten into the abyss so now i'm freaking out about that.
00:52.05Jucatogeomyidae: not really sure what's going on, but since you really think it's a bug, it might be best to file it as one on bugs.kde.org to get the attention of the developer(s)
00:54.04geomyidaeJucato: yeah, I'm moving in a week, I was going to dive into oxygen-gtk and play around with it a bit myself before I jumped to that.
00:54.32geomyidaeAnother user posted something else I'm going to take a look at too, but it doesn't make sense because the icons in question are *present* in Elementary anyway, so it shouldn't be falling back, period.
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01:04.09chealerHi. I'm getting 2 dialogs when I come back to my laptop plugged on an LCD monitor after upgrading from Linux 3.2.35 to 3.2.39. The first is "A monitor output has been disconnected.Do you wish to run a configuration tool to adjust the monitor setup?"
01:04.42DaZand the second one? :v
01:05.09chealerThe second one says the monitor has been connected. They both appear at the same time, when the screen is re-enabled. I also get this with Linux 3.8. last know good is 3.2.35.
01:05.41chealerI'm using radeon with Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Madison [Radeon HD 5000M Series] on Debian testing. I haven't tried to reproduce in other desktop environments.
01:05.52chealerdid others notice the same? if not, how can I determine whether this is a Linux or KDE issue?
01:06.05Jucatoone is probably just a pure notification. the other is a "call to action". not exactly sure because I don't have two monitors to test
01:06.08DaZit's fine on mine setup :v
01:06.21DaZtherefore
01:06.27DaZchealer: provide screenshots plx :c
01:07.02chealerJucato: they actually both offer to run the configuration tool. the difference is just that one says the screen was disconnected, the other [re]connected
01:07.25Jucatoah
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01:08.11chealerDaZ: it's the standard dialog (at least as of KDE 4.8.4). usually that's normal and happens when you... actually [un]plug a monitor, but now it happens when the monitor wakes up
01:08.48chealer(I have a single monitor)
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02:00.22dtbhey guys, just swapping to kde from gnome. <3 so far. any way to adjust the "window resize" over to Alt+MiddleMouse instead of the current default Alt+RightMouse?
02:01.28DaZdtb: systemsettings ->window behavior->window behavior ->window actions
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02:02.21dtbDaZ, champion thanks! will open my eyes more from now on.
02:02.36DaZdtb: that search thingie in systemsettings does work :v
02:02.46dtb:)
02:02.59DaZi know, it was amazing for me as well.
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02:05.32ArchGamerHey, I've decided I am going to start making kde themes.  Would the KDE community look down on my for using Photoshop to accomplish this?  Also, can you point me to a guide on icon theme making?
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02:08.50DaZArchGamer: probably no
02:08.56juancarlospacoyes, of course
02:09.04juancarlospaconah, im jokin  :P
02:09.48ArchGamerIf it's means anything, I will run photoshop from a vm because it is the only reason I ever use windows!
02:10.29juancarlospacogot friend that work as designer uses gimp, inkscape and krita
02:10.35juancarlospacoand blender
02:10.38ArchGamerso.  are there any kde guidelines for creating themes?  I figure I could just look through oxygen and figure it out.  A guide would give me a head start though.
02:10.49DaZguidelines as in..? :v
02:11.11juancarlospaco_____________ ________________
02:11.11ArchGamerjuancarlospaco, I use inkscape, but nothing can replace photoshop for me atm.
02:11.13DaZi think oxygen should have some docs somewhere.
02:11.19juancarlospaco^ guide - lines
02:24.57dtboh more kde love. running VLC without a window border, above other windows and at 70% transparency while not focused.  now the baby monitor stream is a million betters.
02:26.04dtbonly thing that doesn't work is the "Hide VLC Media Player in taskbar" option - oh well I can live with that.
02:26.09lunitikI want things to use "application based on contents" in default applications app, but I never want it to choose konqueror, how can I accomplish this?
02:26.40DaZlunitik: switch default html app to not_konqueror? ;v
02:27.22lunitikDaZ: Where? Is there an advanced screen somewhere for particular file types?
02:27.42DaZlunitik: systemsettings->file associations
02:27.50lunitikfeels dumb
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02:32.41lunitikwonders is File Assosiates has a "remove konqueror from all the things" equivalent
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02:33.38Oraclunitik, you can right click on a file, then select "properties"
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02:34.09OracOnce the properties window opens you can select "File Type Options"
02:34.45OracOnce the second window opens it will give you a box called "Application Preference Order"
02:35.07OracWhichever application is at the top is the one that will open all files of that type by default.
02:36.08OracPlease let me know if you have any questions.
02:36.15lunitikOrac: This isn't for a local  file though, what DaZ told me is what I want, but doing it by hand is a slooooow process
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02:36.28lunitikOrac: Still, thank you for your feedback
02:36.43OracOh, I see.  I thought it was just for local HTML files.
02:37.06DaZlunitik: remote or local is pretty much the same thing
02:37.08OracYes, I don't think there is a faster way than what you suggested.
02:37.32ArchGamerWhat is the name of the KDE display manager?  I installed KDE while running slim and I am removing slim because it prevents shutdown features on KDE.
02:37.48lunitikDaZ: Well, true enough
02:37.59JucatoArchGamer: KDM?
02:38.07DaZi think there might be faster way, but i'm too lazy to figure i tout :v
02:38.09Jucato(display manager = login manager and stuff)
02:38.16ArchGamerJucato, XD oh.
02:39.18ArchGamerJucato yeah, I used to run openbox so I used slim as my display manager.  Now that I am using KDE, Id rather use KDM. ty.
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04:32.57liushiwei shen me wo bu neng qie huan dao zhong wen shu ru fa zhuang tai ?
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05:11.52geomyidaeThe LightDM KCM module seems quite borken in Kubuntu 13.04 beta 1 :(
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07:25.18rajat431Hi everyone ,  I am new to the Community , i have been working with Qt and have quite a good experience with it now. I want to step into KDe. I was going through some KDE project's code. I found the Classes names are appended with a "K". Do i have to download the libraries foe KDE separately if i want to write a code for KDE? . Or they come with Qt itself?I am using KDE ubuntu
07:25.56DrEeevilrajat431: they are independent of Qt, but use lots of Qt functions internally
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07:49.44ssbrUgh, how do I use emerge? http://www.bpaste.net/show/wkRqeyfju7DqlLgrouIX/
07:50.04ssbralso, do the KDE people not know that PYTHONPATH already means something in Python? It doesn't mean "path to the python interpreter"
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08:12.42Mamarokrajat431: please read this: http://flossmanuals.net/kde-guide/
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09:25.18CVirus~/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend is consuming 3.7GB although nepomuk is disabled .. Why is that ?
09:25.19aptthat's too long, CVirus
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10:58.43rindolfHi all.
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10:59.07rindolfI saw the message about the KDE women outreach program.
10:59.12RawProduceis there some magical incantation which makes konsole see new fonts?
10:59.26rindolfRawProduce: maybe kbuildsycoca
10:59.40RawProducerindolf: command not found
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10:59.52Jucatokbuildsycoca4
10:59.56rindolfRawProduce: kbuildsycoca4
11:00.04rindolfJucato: thanks.
11:00.08RawProduceah
11:00.12RawProducestill nothing
11:00.21RawProducewhich is strange since xfontsel does list them
11:00.42Jucatoare they fixed-width fonts?
11:00.47Jucato(like "mono")
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11:01.47RawProduceyes
11:01.53RawProduceprofont, inconsolata
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11:01.57RawProducethat kind of stuff
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11:02.49tdignanRawProduce: try fc-cache <fontdir>
11:02.50Jucatohow did you install them?
11:03.03RawProducewith my distro's package manager
11:03.04tdignannot sure if it matters for kde, but it does for other x programs.
11:03.41Jucatokde has a font installer. not sure if it does something to automatically make kde apps aware of the new fonts
11:03.51RawProduceif it makes any difference, I had another installation go pear shaped, reinstalled everything but preserved the home partition
11:04.27RawProducefc-cache didn't seem to help (ran  fc-cache /usr/share/fonts/)
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11:06.07Jucatoin System Settings, do you have Font Management near the bottom? if you do, maybe you can check if KDE recognizes the fonts at all
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11:09.13RawProducesolution was to run  fc-cache -vf   then restart X11
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11:10.09panda84kdeHi guys! Just upgraded to 4.10. It's awesome, thanks!!!
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11:14.25larsemilis there a magnifying tool like the compiz one in kwin? and if - how do i use it
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11:17.41JucatoYou need to have desktop effects enabled. System Settings -> Desktop Effects -> All Effects tab, enable the Zoom effect, the wrench icon will let you see and configure what keyboard shortcuts to use
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11:22.19larsemilJucato: not possible to bind to scrollwheel? meta+scrollup/down
11:23.02larsemilthat is an issue with kde in general actually
11:23.09Jucatokinda
11:23.57Jucatowell, I just know kde doesn't do Modifier key + mouse wheel shortcuts in the keyboard shortcuts. apps have to support that explicitly in other settings
11:24.10Jucato(not sure if gnome itself (not compiz) is doing something else)
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11:55.40hateballlarsemil: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163121#c20
11:55.58hateballIt's pretty much my only annoyance within all of KDE
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12:30.01R_RiosHey. I disabled my laptop from suspending the session when running on AC power from the battery monitor settings, but it seems to have no effect, as it's still suspending after some time. It was working before, but, after I suspended once, it stopped working. Any idea of what's going on? How can I enforce it not to suspend? I'm running KDE 4.10.1 and Arch.
12:30.21R_RiosP.S.: I don't even close the lid
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13:21.53rpricebootkiller: thanks again for your help yesterday.
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14:09.11edakiriI wish to configure Phonon. What do I need? I guess I need the KDE configuration centre. What is the name of the executable for that?
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14:15.00BluesKajedakiri, sys settings>multimedia>phonon
14:16.27Jucatoor more directly "kcmshell4 kcm_phonon"
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14:16.45Jucatobut the name of the executable for the KDE configuration center is "systemsettings"
14:16.53edakirithanks, all.
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14:24.36boom1992mbriza: ping?
14:24.55mbrizaboom1992: pong
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14:25.57boom1992mbriza: hey :) today I read your blogpost about polkit-kde/qt :) great! :) and today we also spotted a crash which might have its roots inside polkit-qt: http://paste.kde.org/701666/
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14:28.47dyatonbI tried ktimtracker for a day or two and decided it wasn't really the TODO tool I was looking for. However, it still starts every time I boot my computer. Does anyone here know how I can make it stop?
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14:29.38mbrizaboom1992: hi, thanks :) yep, it seems it's a bug there
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14:32.54Jucatodyatonb: quit it completely before you logout (not just close the window. right-click on the system tray and select Quit)?
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14:33.24mbrizaboom1992: although looking at the code, i don't see much of a reason to crash but anyway, if you opened a bugreport and attach information on how and where you triggered it, i'd be glad
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14:33.47boom1992mbriza: hehe well let me try to come up with a patch first :)
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14:35.44mbrizaboom1992: oh, cool :)
14:38.01dyatonbJucato: Thanks. That finally worked. I had tried that before, but my Fedora 17 machine had been hanging in the shutdown process (something to do with systemd). But some update I installed today fixed the shutdown problem.
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14:40.37boom1992mbriza: the cause of the crash is the QDBusConnection::systemBus().connect() in dbusSignalAdd
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14:40.55boom1992mbriza: I suppose we need to disconnect all signals before destructing :)
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14:42.26kichawahi folks
14:42.38kichawai've some problem with task manager
14:42.52kichawathere are some ghost app ?!
14:43.22librehatsorry but what do you mean by "ghost app"?
14:43.31kichawai cannot maximize it, close it etc
14:44.04kichawalibrehat: so there are no real process
14:44.22kichawaps aux | grep terminal | wc -l
14:44.22kichawa1
14:45.06librehatkichawa: don't scare me. :-( I don't know what's wrong. maybe somebody here does.
14:46.24kichawai fucked sth with actions :<
14:46.27kichawai suppose
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14:49.22BluesKajkichawa, perhaps a different virtual desktop ...stating the obvious , but i have to ask
14:51.07R_RiosSo, I'm using KMail with my GMail account, and I'm now every once in a while getting a lot of these "Unable to list item parts" notifications
14:51.34R_RiosWhat does it mean? Is it a bug? How can gather useful info to report it?
14:51.44R_Rios*How can I gather
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14:53.39kichawaBluesKaj: i've killed this terminal in cli
14:53.59kichawaBluesKaj: there were run with --sesion_id
14:54.19R_RiosRestarting Akonadi doesn't help
14:56.15mbrizaboom1992: i'm not sure at all, it's very strange, especially the fixme in dbusSignalAdd
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15:00.53boom1992mbriza: me neither ;)
15:01.53R_RiosThe problem seems to go away if I kill akonadi & friends
15:02.04R_RiosLet's see if it comes back
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15:03.45edakiriPhonon configuration lists nonexistant devices which are not selectable. How to get rid of them?
15:04.49boom1992mbriza: do you have the org.freenode.ConsoleKit interface permanently running on your systemBus?
15:05.44mbrizaboom1992: nope
15:06.30boom1992mbriza: yes I wonder why we have the stuff in there at all. ;)
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15:12.59mbrizaboom1992: yeah, i can't see anything done about the signals when received... can you please tell me where the crash is triggered?
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15:15.38markandI love KDE4
15:15.43markandit works pretty well on FreeBSD
15:15.52boom1992mbriza: except that it emits the ckDbfinished signal ;)
15:16.02boom1992mbriza: btw you run a systemd system?
15:16.15mbrizaboom1992: yes
15:16.22boom1992and this patch is triggered by an application of mine :D hard to set up :/ and still a wip patch...
15:16.35boom1992mbriza: then CK is most likely replaced by logind ;)
15:17.00boom1992mbriza: even: " Note: Starting with polkit 0.107-4, ConsoleKit must be completely replaced by systemd-logind[2], even when using a display manager. The system must be booted with systemd to be fully functional."
15:17.05boom1992that's from the arch wiki...
15:17.53panda84kdeHi! Anybody having problem with some missing icons in KDE 4.10? http://imgur.com/pVmoPk8
15:18.05boom1992the polkit here is 0.107 mbriza...
15:18.15panda84kdeI'm missing "Applications", "Lost and found" and "Package management" icons
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15:18.31panda84kdeFedora 17 here.
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15:19.10mbrizaboom1992: of course it's replaced but there's no support for systemd-logind in polkit-qt yet
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15:20.10mbrizaboom1992: still, i don't experience any problem with it... and i'm running polkit 0.107, too
15:21.01boom1992mbriza: yes, I don't know why only I triggered this thing :/ and only in a certain case...
15:21.42boom1992mbriza: but patching dbusSignalAdd() with http://paste.kde.org/701714/
15:21.45boom1992fixes it...
15:25.29mbrizaboom1992: yep, this seems pretty reasonable i think... it seems i'll have to make CK support optional anyway so there will be something like that
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15:26.00mbrizai still don't see any reason why it would crash when the interface isn't there
15:26.03boom1992mbriza: although I'm not sure if it is a proper fix or just one for users which don't use ck...
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15:29.30boom1992mbriza: *probably* it's even a Qt bug, as QDBusConnectionPrivate does not disconnect from all destroyed signals once it is destroyed itself (in this case the deref pointer is called when the Authority is destroyed)
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15:32.21MichaelPhow do i stop the kresource migration tool.. it keeps tring to migrate default address  book every 30 sec and failing
15:33.20panda84kdeMichaelP: maybe you can ask on #kdepim too
15:33.32MichaelPok
15:34.19mbrizaboom1992: well, if all the other applications on your system that are using polkit are working fine except this one, i'd suspect the application to do something wrong... but this whole thing does seem _really_ strange. disregard that... and yeah, it could be (with a big "maybe") a bug in Qt anyway
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15:34.44MichaelPpanda84kde: nobody in there
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15:35.32panda84kdeMichaelP: oh, sorry, the channel is #kontact
15:35.45panda84kdeyou might have success with #akonadi too
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15:37.44boom1992mbriza: yeah I know, but then from the backtrace, there is zero occurrence of my application in there :/ which is really strange as well :/
15:38.39mbrizaboom1992: it's because the application doesn't actually start the dialog, it's part of the agent that's running in the background all along
15:39.21mbrizaoh, no, sorry, my bad
15:40.34mbrizaanyway, uhm... doesn't the application exit even before it starts?
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15:41.30boom1992mbriza: my application? no, it starts and uses polkit quite fine
15:41.34boom1992then on exit the crash happens
15:42.00mbrizaoh man i'm tired, yes
15:42.11boom1992np :)
15:42.27boom1992I'm a little clueless as well :)
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15:44.48mbrizaboom1992: i don't see any reason why would the app (you aren't writing a polkit daemon, aren't you?) even subscribed to the seat signals
15:45.23boom1992mbriza: nonono, I just use PolkitQt1::Authority in my library :) and that Authority connects to the signals
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15:55.36boom1992mbriza: btw in case I manually call PolkitQt1::Authority::instance()->deleteLater(); before, it just crashes when the global static tries to delete it as well, not when I delete it...
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16:06.28alainusi have no audio strangely. I noticed an error a few days ago: "audio device is not working... falling back to the default one." i dismissed it as i thought it would fix itself on the next reboot but it didn't. Where can i configure that in KDE?
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16:09.18JucatoSystem Settings -> Multimedia -> Phonon
16:09.21mbrizaboom1992: well, i don't know what to do about it at the moment but i'll definitely think about it, thanks for helping me to get more deep into the project :)
16:09.40boom1992mbriza: np, thanks for taking over! :)
16:11.20alainusJucato, the default was set as the QuickCam, which is wrong. So I changed it to "Built in audio". But i still get no sound. Maybe it'll work on the next reboot ?
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16:11.59Jucatoalainus: where was it set to QuickCam?
16:12.46alainusJucato, in Phonon. Audio Hardware Setup. "Sound Card"
16:12.57Jucatohow about the settings in the Device Preferences tab for Audio Playback
16:13.36Jucato(and for the items under that category)
16:13.51alainusJucato, it lists only Built in Audio for Audio Playback. I hit "Test" but there's no soudn
16:13.53alainus*sound
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16:14.55Jucatohm .. ok maybe a restart would be needed. not exactly sure, but if it wouldn't hurt to try, go ahead
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16:23.15tdignanWhen I maximize urxvt, I'm able to see space between the edges of the screen and the windows, revealing my wallpaper.
16:23.21tdignandoes anyone know how to fix that?
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17:37.08MichaelPpanda84kde: that worked... got system upgraded.. rebooted the kresources migration tool poped up did it job and closed
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17:37.58panda84kdeMichaelP: great!
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17:39.32MichaelPOnly thing i hate about Sabayon... is a full system update takes for ever
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17:45.32Geronimohi
17:45.41okadzakihi
17:45.44Geronimohow may I start an app in full screen mode by default?
17:46.16okadzakii don't know ^(
17:46.36rdieterGeronimo: kstart --maximize <app>
17:46.47DaZGeronimo: alt+f3->more actions-> application special something
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17:47.22rdieteragrees with DaZ
17:48.01rdieterspecial window settings->size&position
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17:50.12Geronimoit only seems to work if I apply it manually.
17:50.27Geronimoif I use force or apply initially, it doesn't do anything
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17:54.09Geronimokstart --fullscreen did the trick
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18:40.23friesehi
18:40.55frieseanybody ever used lotus notes on kde?
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19:00.41britthey everyone, has anyone else experienced a plasma-desktop bug where you boot into a completely black screen?
19:01.08DaZi might have
19:01.26DaZbut since i switched it to start fresh session every time it's ok.
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19:03.42britt_This only happens if I reboot after changing the panel around or adding a bunch of icons to the panel. I can still open krunner and other gui apps, so I know it isn't x
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19:04.13britt_when I try to run plasma-desktop from the commandline I get a BadPixMap error.
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19:08.31tkrugghey there. I am looking for the source code of pastebin widget of KDE. Can you help me ?
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19:10.24DaZtkrugg: it's in kdeplasma-addons i think
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19:12.44tkruggDaZ: ha thanks, this must be it http://code.ohloh.net/project?pid=3KttNCokYYE&prevcid=1&browser=Default&did=applets%2Fpastebin&cid=JtIrNeF3Az0
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19:13.36tkruggDaZ: Do you think there is a github repo for this ?
19:13.46DaZdunno.
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19:15.42tkruggok thanks a lot :)
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19:18.38jacreshey guys, does anyone here use choqok as a twitter client? going nuts with its wallet problems
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19:41.34CygniXKDE networkmanger openvpn import 'client connection' information is broken. Meanwhile "openvpn --config client.ovpn" works.
19:41.46CygniXDoes anyone know of a work around
19:41.59CygniXa tip to get it working?
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20:25.17lunitikWhere can alt-tab feedback be configured? I tried in desktop effects under window management but those don't seem to effect anything
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20:28.31lunitikNevermind, I found it
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21:12.27chaoHi, I'm trying to use KGPG but when I encrypt with it, I constantly get the following error:
21:12.37chaoThe encryption failed with error code 2
21:12.59chaoI have verfied that I can encrypt to the same public key via the gpg command line utility
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21:45.23benklophello! I've got a caldav apppointment that shows up in Thunderbird, but not in kcal
21:45.44benklopwhere can I start troubleshooting this?
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21:49.07benklopThe Akonadi console does show the appointment..
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21:51.33benklopbut does not show it as recurring, which akonadi does.
21:51.40benkloper thunderbird does i mean
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21:53.23BigWighello, is there a way to sync Konqueror with Firefox?
21:53.30BigWigI would totally use it if this was possible
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22:09.42christ_CygniX: dont make fun of my name -.-
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22:16.32BigWigchrist_, Bookmarks and such.
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