IRC log for #kde on 20130401

00:00.09mradot_yes it is a xfs
00:00.16mradot_also are you the real alienbob
00:00.32alienBOBmradot_: your connection issues (before the reboot) why did they start? Did you update software right before that? If so what version of Slackware are you running and how are you updating your system?
00:00.39alienBOBYes I am that alienBOB
00:01.38mradot_i didn't update anything and i'm using version 14
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00:02.36mradot_all my network interfaces were down so i ifconfed them back up but i tried pinging google and it says unknown host also no man pages for iwtools
00:03.07mac^^^mradot_: is your dns working
00:03.15mradot_not sure
00:03.30mac^^^cat /etc/resolv.conf
00:03.31mradot_let me look at chapter 5 of slackbook
00:03.45ZorroTor try mac's instructions :-)
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00:04.28mradot_ok i did that
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00:04.35ZorroTwhat did it say ?
00:04.50mradot_there's only a comment
00:05.12alienBOBIf you did not update anything, and you are using an XFS filesystem on your /dev/sda1 and a xfs_check reports weird errors, did you have a power outage at home? Or did someone pull the power cord from the computer?
00:05.26mradot_no
00:05.34mradot_i tried rebooting though
00:05.49ZorroTmight be failing drive.
00:06.07mradot_and when i did that it said no more processes running on this run level and froze so i powered off
00:06.11alienBOBmradot_: what is the result of : blkid /dev/sda1
00:06.38alienBOBThe UUID is not interesting, the Type is interesting
00:07.07mradot_oh i see
00:07.13alienBOB?
00:07.19mradot_<PROTECTED>
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00:07.42alienBOBWell one step closer to salvation then
00:07.54alienBOBI Do not think you have a filesystem issue
00:08.33alienBOBDoes "ifconfig -a" report your network interface? I assume it is wireless?
00:08.50mradot_yes
00:09.01mradot_all interfaces are up
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00:10.59alienBOBAnd does this give results: ping 8.8.4.4
00:11.41mradot_network is unreachable
00:12.18alienBOBDoes the "route -n" command show a line starting with 0.0.0.0 ?
00:12.57mradot_also does it help to tell you that when i try to reboot it says there's a syntax error in rc.inet1.conf
00:13.16alienBOBWell, that will prevent your network from getting configured for sure
00:13.30alienBOBANd please answer my question too
00:13.40mradot_no
00:13.47alienBOBOK
00:13.51mradot_just words
00:14.00alienBOB?
00:14.15mradot_no ip address
00:14.29alienBOBIs there a line that starts with "default" then?
00:15.01mradot_no
00:15.14alienBOBOK other try: can you copy /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf onto a USB stick and then take it to your working PC. And then post the contents of that file on pastebin.com ?
00:15.19mac^^^mradot_: when you did a route -n, you should have a line with Flags "UG", on that same line there is an ip addr under Gateway column, can you ping that ip?
00:15.27alienBOBThere should not be a password in tehre so posting it is safe
00:15.59alienBOBmac^^^ 's advice is also a good one
00:16.20mradot_well the error i got on that computer is something about no matching '"'
00:16.41mradot_mac^^^, no ip adrresses
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00:16.51mac^^^thats a problem
00:17.29mac^^^need to check your ifcfg network files
00:17.45mac^^^I know where that is on fedora but thats all
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00:18.11mradot_alienbob, i don't have another linux computer that has a wirless card
00:18.29mradot_mac^^^, where is it in fedora
00:18.43mac^^^mradot_: its in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts
00:20.30mac^^^if your scripts start with the string "ifcfg-", you oculd cd /etc; find -name ifcfg-\*
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00:21.59ZorroTgood luck all
00:23.47mac^^^I can live with not being able to delete "- Konsole" from konsole title
00:24.20mac^^^I dont have the time to learn all about X just to solve that problem
00:24.48alienBOBmradot_: you don't need another Linux computer. Just a USB stick, and then copy rc.inet1.conf from the broken computer to the USB stick. And then take the USB stick to your parents"computer
00:25.09mradot_ok
00:25.11alienBOBmac^^^: Slackware uses a different network configuration mechanism
00:26.00mac^^^alienBOB: well, then I have no knowledge to give on slackware :)
00:26.25alienBOBmradot_: using the command "view /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf" could help too. The view command has coloured syntax so a missing " should be noticeable because the text right after it will look strange
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00:31.44mradot_yes there was a extra double quote
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00:34.47alienBOBmradot_: could you fix it with removing the extra quote and rebooting?
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00:36.09mradot_ok i did that
00:36.19mradot_now that fixed most issues
00:36.40mradot_the plasma display and stuff works fine now
00:36.58mradot_but it still won't connect to my wireless connection
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00:39.27alienBOBmradot_: does your wireless network have WPA or WPA2 encryption?
00:41.36juanmabcis opendesktop.org social desktop kde provider changed?
00:42.00mradot_wep
00:43.44underscoresmate wep is not secure anymore afaik
00:43.52alienBOBmradot_: and did you configure the WEP key in your rc.inet1.conf ?
00:44.59mradot_yes
00:45.09mradot_there's an error about set nickname
00:46.18alienBOBThat can be ignored safely
00:46.43alienBOBDoes iwconfig show any info about the connection?
00:47.37alienBOBAnd that WEP key, did you enter it as a set of HEX characters or as a readable text (a passphrase) ?
00:51.02mradot_my password is numbers and letters
00:52.09alienBOBCan you show how you wrote that into the rc.inet1.conf ? Use a different string of numbers and letters but I want to get the idea how you entered it
00:54.02mradot_WLAN_KEY="1a233hg6"
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00:54.33alienBOBmradot_: not OK
00:54.46alienBOBCheck http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network#wireless_configuration_in_rcinet1conf
00:54.56alienBOBSomething like WLAN_KEY[1]="s:Hogwarts"
00:55.16mradot_ok i did the s thing
00:55.22alienBOBI.e. there should be an array number which must correspond to your wireless card definition
00:55.40alienBOBANd the "s:" defines a character string instead of HEX
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00:56.20mradot_still doesn't connect
00:58.46mradot_is the ifname supposed to be ath0 or wlan0
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01:01.14mradot_when i try to restrat it says set failed on device wlan0
01:01.44alienBOBmradot_: you know best what the interface is called
01:02.37mradot_?
01:03.10alienBOBis it wlan0 or ath0 ? You are the only one who can look at that computer. You tell me
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01:03.55alienBOBAnd it is still best if you could post the content of rc.inet1.conf .. so that I do not have to jeep guessing and waiting
01:04.00alienBOBkeep*
01:04.32alienBOBIt is 03:04 AM here so I will not be here much longer
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01:07.51mradot_it is ath0
01:07.58alienBOBWell then
01:08.21alienBOBThat "set failed on device wlan" message makes me think that you used "wlan0" in rc.inet1.conf
01:08.43mradot_also the only letters the wep key are only e and d
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01:10.27mradot_at the bottom there is a ifname[4]=wlan0 though
01:10.33mradot_'i did not put it there
01:12.59mradot_i'm connected now :D
01:13.03mradot_thanks
01:13.30alienBOBGood.
01:13.50alienBOBYou learned something about network configuration and troubleshooting I hope
01:14.29mradot_yeah use vim when it says there's a syntax error
01:14.35mradot_instead of nano
01:14.49mradot_thst was the main problem
01:17.15mradot_ok well bye
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02:12.59FADhi all, i am making a dolphin action script and want to use gui dialogs, kdialog doesn't support forms, so what do you recommend me to use? (e.g zenity, tcl/tk....)
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03:04.26ablegreeni'm trying to use it when building firefox but the cache size stays 0 as i run ccache -s in another terminal
03:06.01DaZand what does it have to do with kde? ;v
03:06.37ablegreensorry
03:06.43ablegreennothing, i guess
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03:13.04GOLGMALهدول سحبتن من الموقع
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03:18.43mradot_kde is very awesome
03:19.01mradot_i didn't know you could make your desktop a search thing :D
03:19.21GOLGMALفي حدا عربي؟
03:20.35mradot_?
03:20.49JucatoGOLGMAL: English only please
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03:21.55GOLGMALI need arab?
03:23.16Jucatosorry, English only in here. I don't know of any Arab channel
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03:28.35mradot_how do i make it so there isn't a thumb nail preview
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03:30.28Jucatowhere?
03:30.52mradot_when i hover the icons there is a preview
03:30.58mradot_for open windows
03:31.01Jucatoicons where?
03:31.02Jucatoah
03:31.36mradot_do you see what i'm talking about now
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03:32.03Jucatoyou can right-click on the panel where there are running windows, select Task Manager Settings then uncheck Show Tooltips
03:32.46mradot_ok
03:32.57mradot_i figured out before you said that :P
03:33.03mradot_but thanks anyways
03:33.11Jucatobecause I had to look for it since I'm not using the default task manager
03:33.51Jucatonote that that will totally remove tooltips in the task manager (for running windows) which you might not want. there is another way that just removes the thumbnail previews but would let you keep the tooltips
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04:09.50xlnaglahi all, support request.  I've got a dual-screen setup and was messing with it and managed to lose my default panel
04:10.07xlnaglaI can re-create a panel, but can't seem to get the application icon dock back
04:11.05xlnaglaadding a new system tray works for KDE apps (they appear on all system trays), but legacy apps seem to appear only on one (the primary one?) and that one has disappeared.  Any ideas?
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05:19.03sujithello
05:19.31sujitI  use linux mint 13 cinnamon 1.6.7 and i want to add kde env so i can use both. but which one i should install kde-plasma-desktop or plasma-desktop. without destroy my cinnamon.
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05:23.50sujithello  yashshah_
05:23.56sujithello  yashshah_
05:24.23valoriedanke!
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06:52.11workguyI don't get how the black board plasmoid is supposed to work.  I have it installed, click on one of the colored squares and ... ???  nothing
06:52.24workguyis it broken or am I?
06:52.50workguywhat part of this simple tool am I just not getting?   Not much in the way of doc after googling for a while
06:53.08workguyI don't even need to use this, but I just want to understand it.
06:53.21cb400ftry holding the mouse button and dragging after clicking one of the squares
06:53.29workguyah!
06:53.40workguyhold the mouse button ... good.  thanks
06:54.02workguynada
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06:54.11workguyI'm draggin on the left mouse button
06:54.24workguyno animation
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06:55.15cb400fwell.. you should be able to draw on the blackboard in the selected color
06:55.25cb400fand it works fine here
06:55.26workguywhat blackboard?
06:55.36cb400fthe blackboard widget
06:55.37workguyI see nothing
06:56.00workguyI just downloaded the plasmoid a few minutes ago.
06:56.25workguyThen installed it to the panel.
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06:57.06workguyThis is Fedora 18 with whatever the latest KDE is, all the patches, everything up to date
06:57.15cb400fit prolly works better on the desktop than in the panel
06:57.21workguyoh
06:57.25workguyok
06:57.36cb400fI would imagine it's too small to be usable in any normal sized panel
06:57.42workguydragged it to the desktop
06:57.59workguynupe
06:58.13workguytried clicking, dragging, even right click
06:58.51workguybtw, I just rebooted, and logged in again
06:59.48workguyoh, does it need a containment?
06:59.56workguyor will the desktop serve?
07:00.05workguydesktop is a containment I understand
07:00.25cb400fyep
07:00.36workguyI feel stupid.
07:01.17cb400fthat's supposed to happen when using cool, advanced technology for the first time :-)
07:01.44workguy:D
07:01.48workguynatch
07:02.03workguyso it IS possible that I'm just having a bad KDE day.
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07:02.50cb400fI guess it's possible in theory... haven't had a bad kde day yet in about 8 years of using it here ;-)
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07:03.43workguywhere is "here?"
07:03.50cb400f"kde days are like sex, even when they're not that good, they're still pretty good" :-)
07:03.57workguyare you also on Fedora
07:04.06cb400fnah, opensuse
07:04.23workguyFedora has the latest-and-latest
07:04.38workguyso, therefore, not always the greatest
07:04.48workguyOK, thank you.
07:05.03workguyappreciate your help cb400f
07:05.07cb400fnp
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11:31.10err-orhi, is it possible in kwin desktop effects to exclude kickoff menu? kde 4.10.1
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12:00.24G10h4ckhi all1
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12:02.47G10h4ckI am tryng to sync my kmail local folder between my laptop e my workstation
12:03.21G10h4cki have done with unison like in this forum thread
12:03.22G10h4ckhttp://kde.6490.n7.nabble.com/kmail2-sync-gt-akonadi-db-sync-td1517688.html
12:04.03G10h4ckthe folder are correctly synced
12:04.23G10h4ckbut the emails are not displayed because
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12:04.53G10h4ckkmail puts the hostname as suffix of email file ( my localfolder is maildir )
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12:28.14invariantG10h4ck, file a design bug.
12:29.15invariantG10h4ck, it is storing data which can be computed, which should never happen in a reasonable system, unless there is some high performance requirement (which there is not).
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12:32.45eagles0513875hey BluesKaj :)
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12:33.19BluesKajhi eagles0513875, what's up :)
12:33.31eagles0513875not much
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12:48.14lejocelynhi guys, I'm looking at the bug reports for kio_files
12:48.20lejocelyndid you find some?
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12:51.42Jucatohttps://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=571155&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=CONFIRMED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=NEEDSINFO&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&component=file&product=kio
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13:01.22lejocelynJucato: thank you
13:01.45lejocelynI found my issue (cmake and kdevelop)
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13:04.23rdieterit was (likely): https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274246
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14:05.57MichaelPCan i get rid of the tool box thing on the desktop ?
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14:08.57BluesKajMichaelP:  don't think so , I asked that a while back , but nobody had an answer
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14:12.53MichaelPBluesKaj: i read something about py-cashew.. but that not doing anything
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14:16.10mrafcho001Does anyone know if I can have a scrip run when the display dims, or better yet replace whatever dims the screen with my own script?
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14:32.56silver_hookI just wanted to say thank you to whomever redesigned the notifications applet in 4.10 — it looks and behaves a *lot* better in the sense how I use it.
14:34.26silver_hook(system bar in its own 3x4 icons big auto-hidden panel in the corner of the screen)
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14:53.15anant_I am trying to build the source code for kbatelshipon my machine using kdevelop, but repeeatedly keep getting error message: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
14:53.29anant_Can somebody please help me out?
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14:55.00discoveredFor kate Is it possible to use different background color from Desktop
14:55.02discovered?
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14:58.55Jucatodiscovered: Settings -> Configure Kate -> Editor Component -> Fonts & Colors -> Colors tab, set your own Text Area color
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15:06.52discoveredJucato, That is for font color only...right?
15:07.27Jucatono. the section says "Editor Background Colors"
15:07.41Jucatothe color for fonts is in the Default Text Styles tab
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15:11.46discoveredFirst check this screenshot of my kate... It is not highlighing after changing Desktop appearance to dark http://oi50.tinypic.com/14imxom.jpg
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15:13.56discoveredI don't see the option to change full background to white : http://oi47.tinypic.com/s4ny2r.jpg
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15:15.08Jucatooh older version of Kate. the "Normal text" color I think
15:16.19discoveredif i set normal text color to white then i can't see font :)
15:16.21Jucatothose colors there are for the text area background, not for the fonts themselves. the labels are confusing. I guess that's why they renamed the labels
15:16.39discoveredyeah
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15:17.24Jucatowhat do you mean by "It is not highlighing after changing Desktop appearance to dark"?
15:19.37Jucatoif you also want to change the font color, you have to do that in the "Normal Text Styles" tab
15:20.00discoveredI changed the color but now see : http://oi46.tinypic.com/30mr1op.jpg
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15:20.45Jucatoyeah, see what I wrote above
15:21.12discoveredOh it change it a bit ... let's see
15:22.52Jucatokate also has support for separate color schemes (see the Schema option at the top of your screenshot #2). but I'm not an expert in applying those. maybe you can try asking in #kate (not sure if they entertain user questions there or if it's only for development)
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15:50.37copproHey, I just upgraded and now okular opens a new window every time you open a new document
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15:50.48copprohow do I revert to the old behaviour of opening in the same windows
15:50.50coppro*window
15:51.13mishkehi guys, anybody use kfilebox?
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15:55.58toskycoppro: not sure, but try to run it with --unique
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16:02.47copprotosky: that just gives an error if I attempt to open a second document
16:03.03godhackis there a #kde-dev room?
16:03.06copproit seems that it's trying to spawn a new window and failing rather than opening the document in the main window
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16:11.55cb400fgodhack: #kde-devel ... and tons of specific channels for apps and stuff
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16:14.18godhackcb400f: thank you, I wanted to know if why a plasmoid is not working
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16:20.39godhackWhat do you do when after adding a plasmoid a 2nd time it says: script initialization failed? I don't want to restart plasma-desktop, just because of that.
16:21.14godhackI know it's resolved after restarting plasma, but there should be an easier way..
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16:22.49Inkanegodhack: file a bug against the creator of it
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16:23.11Inkanein the meantime run kbuildsycoca4 && kquitapp plasma-desktop && kstart plasma-desktop &
16:23.17Inkaneto restart plasma
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16:23.22Inkanewhich should be sufficient
16:24.29godhackyou mean? =>    kbuildsycoca4 2>/dev/null && kquitapp plasma-desktop 2>/dev/null ; kstart plasma-desktop > /dev/null 2>&1
16:24.47godhackI have an alias for that called "please-plasma"
16:26.49godhackInkane: restarting plasma is arkane though and annoying because a little plasmoid not behaving right. Sad that there isn't a way to reset it using a qdbus command or clear the stack
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16:28.47hacostahi, i'm getting: Could not access KVM kernel module: Permission denied
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16:29.00hacostabut i am in the kvm group
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16:32.40toskyhacosta: ask on KVM channels (despite the "k", KVM is not KDE-related)
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16:34.20Blacklite_I have an idea for the KDE devs
16:34.47hacostatosky: arg.. wrong window, sorry
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16:36.16chuckf_Blacklite_: Good for you.
16:36.35Blacklite_you should have an animation for switching activities.
16:36.57Blacklite_one that's distinctly different than the desktop cube.
16:37.03Blacklite_or desktop slide
16:37.17Blacklite_maybe a two-way openup.
16:37.19annmaBlacklite_: ideas are lost in IRC void
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16:37.55Blacklite_well. that sux
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17:15.38frozenfoxxI'm digging around but having some trouble
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20:00.11invariantWhy do I have to wait (a long time) before I see what is in a .tar.bz2 file?
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21:45.17TheAntiDanielWhile following the tutorial at http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/GettingStarted
21:46.08TheAntiDanielI keep getting the error "Parse error.  Expected a command name, got unquoted argument with text " ".
21:46.35TheAntiDanielFor line 3 of my CMakeLists.txt file which is "project (plasma-tutorial1)"
21:46.46TheAntiDanielAny ideas?
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22:00.16vdvanyone have an idea, why setting TERM to konsole-256color results in misfunction of Ctrl+L binding? i.e. it doesn't clear anymore
22:00.29vdvwith TERM=xterm Ctrl+L works fine
22:00.56vdvin konsole
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22:10.35Inkaneworks fine here
22:11.00vdvVersion 2.8.5
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22:11.10Inkanehm, maybe too old?
22:11.14Inkane4.10 works here
22:12.05vdvthe problem is in konsole or terminfo?
22:12.49vdvi don't understand why TERM other than xterm doesn't work
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