IRC log for #kde on 20130410

00:00.41EgonRbrb installed better font for kvirc and need to restart it
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00:06.04EgonRnice font..
00:06.22EgonRkvirc ignores the icons on buttons as well as the icon theme though.
00:06.36EgonRbut it is not a big deal i think.
00:09.08Jucatotry using konversation instead ;)
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00:09.34Sho_EgonR: The OS KVirc is at home on has yet to be written I think
00:10.13EgonRnah, it lacks some features. Like the splitting the panes between actual conversations and status messages
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00:10.43EgonRSho_: I think it looks rather at home in kde if you use nuvola or crystal icon theme.
00:11.12EgonRi really miss the kde3 sounds when interacting with windows in kde4..
00:11.33Sho_Well, if it was a KDE app it would use the KDE icon theme ..
00:11.49EgonRit is an qt app.
00:12.17Sho_Yeah, I know
00:12.18EgonRand i am using stable, some say newer versions integrate better with kde. but i have not tried.
00:13.07Sho_I think they mainly avoided using kdelibs properly because they cared primarily about the Windows version, and kdelibs was not on Windows in the KDE 3 era
00:14.45EgonRthe windows version has the most users, so i guess that makes sense
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01:14.34brli7848hi, is there a way to modify the icon-only task manager?
01:15.19brli7848i mean, to make more mimic to the win7 http://i.imgur.com/INuvRbW.jpg style
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01:57.41EgonRi am having some troubles with DPMS on my monitor
01:58.02EgonRin linux it can not get the dpms data an such it is stuck in 1024x768
01:58.51EgonRI prefer not to write modelines in the Xorg.conf as i move this computer around a lot
01:59.11EgonRIs there any other way to force the scren to use the proper resolution in kde?
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02:01.54virusuyhi guys
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02:45.07GOLGMALمرحبا
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03:11.43rajhow do I get ~/.kde4 to not auto-regenerate when I delete the directory?
03:15.03boombatower_oh yea, is there anyway to change the dragging of windows to the sides that makes them fit that area (like top to maximize) so that it works better for vertical oriented monitors...ie top takes top half of screen (like right takes right half horizontally?
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04:51.56m_athiasMorning everyone. I recently switch to kde (4.10.1, gentoo, amd64) and dual screen does not seem to work correctly (for example the lock screen dialog is placed in the "center" of the virtual screen instead of the main screen, windows maximize over both screens)
04:52.55m_athiasusing 3.8.6 kernel and tested using nouveau and nvidia-drivers on a geforce gt 610 (one dvi, one hdmi output)
04:53.12m_athiasthis used to work correctly for example when using i3 as my window manager
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04:55.45m_athiasanyone any ideas?
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05:01.30DaZm_athias: recompile stuff with xinerama
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05:23.29randdhi i am on gentoo, running kde-4.10.1 and konsole 2.10.1
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05:24.17randdsomehow i am not getting any cursorline with vim in konsole, but i get it properly in rxvt-unicode
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05:27.18DaZrandd: try different color theme maybe
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05:28.04randdDaZ: ok let me try
05:28.04DaZsince i think it's because one terminal is using full 256 color palette and the other isn't, or something >:
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05:30.18DaZrandd: also, qvim is pretty nice <:
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05:31.52DaZs/qvim/vim-qt/
05:32.53randdDaZ:  ok i will give qvim a shot, its available in gentoo repo
05:33.23randdyou were right about the colorscheme though, cusorline behavior changes but doesnt become better
05:33.40randdwhile scrolling from down to up its messing up the screen  http://imgur.com/n5rsmoD
05:33.58randdTERM is set to xterm in konsole
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05:34.32DaZrandd: try using different font :3
05:34.57randdDaZ:  ok let me try, i am presently using liberation-mono
05:35.07DaZhum
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05:35.43DaZi've had this issue, but i don't really remember how did i fix it :v
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05:36.20randdDaZ:  yes, its working with different font
05:36.34randdDaZ: thanks for help
05:36.43DaZyw.
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05:39.14mradothow do i make kde look more like window maker
05:39.24DaZwat
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05:40.08mradotDaZ: what?
05:40.17DaZmradot: wat.
05:40.29mradothave you not heard of window maker
05:40.42DaZi have, but i've never used it.
05:40.56DaZjust as probably a lot of people here :v
05:41.03mradotwell how do i make kde look more like window maker
05:41.07DaZso, you know. get your questions more specific :v
05:42.02mradothow do i get those square things http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Windowmaker.jpg
05:43.31DaZdunno.
05:44.11DaZone you could substitute with one of those icon only task managers
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06:45.19ndrofthelinehi everybody! i'm trying to get ahold of an offline map download for KDE Marble for a school i'm working for in the Philippines. i've been googling for a while now but I haven't found anything good.
06:45.23ndrofthelineany suggestions?
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07:18.03m_athiasDaZ: testing now - thanks
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07:47.02DaZto the git :v
07:48.57m_athiasDaZ: this fixed the problem - thank you!
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09:38.10Khashow do I remove nepomuk and all the indexing and stuff?
09:39.23DaZsystemsettings.
09:40.23KhasI can only see an option to turn it off there
09:41.02annmaKhas: you have an icon in the system tray
09:41.18annmawhat do you meanby "remove"
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09:41.29annmayou can stop it
09:41.47annmaremoving it will break kde
09:41.52Khasreally? o.o
09:41.57Khasnothing uses it
09:42.52annmaask your distribution channel
09:43.27annmathey will know what you can safely remove (ornot)
09:44.04KhasOh no, I mean if it's something encoded in kde, there's no point asking in the first place XD
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09:45.30annmaand these days we're not so short of disk space that a few Mb matter
09:45.50KhasDisk space, no.  CPU and RAM, yes XD
09:46.05KhasEspecially on a laptop
09:46.19annmastopping it affects CPU and RAM
09:46.25KhasSo as long as turning it off removes it from memory and ensures it never ever does anything, win
09:46.26KhasCool :-)
09:46.27annmaremoving it affects disk space
09:46.44annmayes
09:47.00KhasThanks :-D
09:47.06annmaif it affected your CPU you can see the difference when you stop it
09:47.29Khasyes, from 100 to none :-)
09:47.45annmawhat distribution is it?
09:47.52Khasgentoo
09:47.58annmaah OK
09:48.04annmaalso it depends on what you index
09:48.28Khaskmail et al need it, is that right?
09:48.40annmaI run OpenSuse and KDE 4.10 and Nepomuk is OK
09:48.45Khasor is nepomuk just the indexing, and akonadi the db?
09:48.57annmaI don't use kmail so I don't know
09:49.39annmaNepomuk is indexing, I don't know if it is compulsory in kmail
09:49.40zippitysquashedhow do i remove gnome from my system?
09:49.55annmazippitysquashed: ask your distribution channel
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11:53.19Anaphaxetonhow much of a security issue could klipper be?
11:53.36Anaphaxetoni dont like pasted password to be kept in a local file
11:53.50Anaphaxetonhow can i permanently disactivate it?
11:57.06DaZAnaphaxeton: you could set it's history to some lower value :v
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11:58.12DaZtouch ~/.kde4/share/autostart/klipper.desktop will disable it
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11:58.46DaZthough it's not so good imo :v
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12:15.48liudashello everyone, tryed drag and drop in kontact to create for example event from contact, but the title becomes kind of weird URL about akonadi items. KDE 4.10.2, opensuse, arch the same. any ideas?
12:16.18liudasi use google resources both for contacts ant calendar
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14:53.54JZAhi for some reason I have some keystrokes deactivated like ctrl-alt-backspace to kill x
14:54.08JZAor ctrl-alt-F3 to switch to terminal
14:54.24JZAI think KDE config block this, I want to know where should I look to verify this
14:54.26alienBOBThat is distribution-dependent JZA
14:54.40JZAalienBOB: oh really?
14:54.41alienBOBIt's not something KDE determines
14:54.52JZAwell I can do this when I am on KDM for example
14:54.53alienBOBYour distro will have set this up
14:55.00JZAbut once I log in KDE then is disabled
14:55.03alienBOBI have no such issue here
14:55.11JZAI see
14:55.28JZAwould there be a place to look for this?
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14:55.35rdieterJZA: ask your distro
14:55.51JZAso kde doesnt has any control over keystrokes?
14:55.57JZA*have
14:56.26rdieterit could, in general.  depending on , again, how your distro configures defaults
14:56.54alienBOBThe Ctrl-Alt-Backspace combo is determined by X.Org. The Ctrl-Alt-F3 is determined by your init
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14:57.34JZAI see
14:57.40alienBOBYou could check one thing
14:57.52alienBOBPerhaps your KDE reconfigured the keystroke combos
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15:40.20danboidKDE task schedule isn't work for me. The cron daemon is running and my task works as I want if I click 'Run now' on my cron task but it doesn't get run as a cron job
15:40.48danboidSorry - The KDE task scheduler isn't working for me
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15:42.10danboidI've noticed that when I click 'Run now' it opens my task in a konsole so do I need to run the task in a Konsole as part of the script?
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15:42.51jubo2hiya
15:43.00jubo2I'm having a problem of too dim screen
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15:43.18jubo2the manufacturer's buttons for adjusting it don't work
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15:43.56jubo2the system settings -> power saving don't seem to be in effect at all
15:44.37jubo2I tried using xbacklight but it complained "No outputs have backlight property"
15:45.18jubo2the screen controls work in Windows 7 but I'd really like to use Linux to do my stuff ... it's just that the too dim screen is killing my eyes
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15:47.33jubo2according to system settings the brightness should be full when connected to mains and less when running on battery but this does not happen in the real world
15:47.45jubo2it's just eye-killing dim all the time
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15:52.54jubo2'k ..
15:52.56jubo2this works
15:53.03jubo2'sudo setpci -s 00:02.0 f4.b=ff'
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17:50.57PasNoxHi
17:51.24PasNoxi'm looking for a way to map mouse extra buttons to hide all / unhide all applciation acton
17:51.27PasNoxis it possible ?
17:51.35PasNoxi have a 4 mouse button
17:51.43PasNox5*
17:52.10PasNoxand i want to assign button 4 or 5 to 'show desktop' plasmoid
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18:13.54JrSysAdminWhen I drag a picture frame on my desktop so that part of the image is off the screen, it keeps bouncing back so the whole image is on the screen. For a certain image I DON'T want that to happen.
18:14.02JrSysAdminSomehow I already have a frame with part of the image off screen (The same part I want to show on the other frame and have the other part hidded that's visible in the other one)
18:14.32JrSysAdminI see no option to disable this behaviour :(
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19:22.28huwiehow do i change which programs start when i log in?
19:23.33annmait depends on how you manage your session and also you can make some programs Autostart
19:23.51annmalook in SystemSettings for both settings
19:24.10DaZit depends what programs.
19:24.25annmayour distro might also make some programs autostart system-wide
19:25.23huwiethanks all
19:25.45huwieapparently Yakuake is starting automatically but i can't see an entry for it in the autostart options
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19:26.38annmaI don't think that's the sort of program a distribution will autostart
19:26.57huwiei'm on Netrunner and i'm pretty sure it's the default
19:27.11huwiething is, Yakuake always starts open, and i want it to start, but start closed
19:27.29DaZhuwie: ls /usr/share/autostart
19:27.33huwiei filed a bug and the dev said it's because it's autostarting and being saved in the session, so it's essentially starting twice
19:27.38DaZoh ;c
19:27.42DaZthen it complicates things.
19:28.09annmathey make Yakuake autostart system-wide?
19:28.17huwieno mention of Yakuake in /use/share/autostart
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19:28.24huwieannma: i *think* so
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19:28.40huwiebut there must be a way to disable that
19:29.04huwiei'm happy for it to be saved in session because i always use it, i just don't want its window to open when i log in. trivial, sure, but it bugs me :)
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19:29.12Xd1358Hey, I assume this is a kde thing... I can't for some reason change my screen brightness. Nothing happens, no matter if I use battery monitor settings, the icon drag thing, or fn+f5/6
19:30.37huwieaha
19:30.58huwiefound this: /etc/xdg/autostart/yakuake.desktop
19:31.02huwiethat might be the bugger
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19:31.28annmayes
19:31.31huwieyeah it must be because there's also something there that references netrunner
19:31.32huwie\o/
19:32.15huwieok i deleted it. gonna log out and in to test
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19:33.52huwiesolved it!
19:33.57huwiethanks very much for the help, all
19:34.11huwienow i'd better apologise to the dev for filing an erroneous bug
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19:38.38annmagreat huwie
19:39.03huwiethanks again. have a nice day everyone
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20:21.40danboidI'm trying to make a service menu that will work on any type of file. Anyone know whay value I'd give to ServiceTypes for such a service menu?
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21:08.04Unlix:( just set up my shiny new thinkpad with arch and kde but the weather wallpaper isn't working.... whenever i choose it in system settings kde will just fall back to the default wallpaper
21:08.13Unlixno error message
21:08.53ompaulwhich distro
21:09.02Unlixarch
21:09.38Unlix._.
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21:29.16Pi^2This might be the wrong place to ask this, but sometimes after my PC has been on awhile I start having a problem with Kmix...whenever a new audio source is started, kmix flips out on my taskbar and lags my PC...Killing kmix solves this problem but then obviously I can not change my volume easily
21:29.21Pi^2Restarting my PC seems to fix this for awhile
21:30.06Pi^2what seems to happen is kmix jumps position on the taskbar, gets bigger for a few seconds then it fixes itself and everything goes back to normal
21:31.15Pi^2and this is on Kubuntu, KDE SC 4.9.2
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21:33.32Pi^2also, hiding kmix from the taskbar seems to fix this issue
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22:18.46TaokiHmm. Still trying to understand the exact difference between Activities and using "different widgets per desktop". Had to really tell exactly which to go for though
22:19.20TaokiWell, I prefer different widgets per desktop. But I'm worried this might be merged into activities again and break my desktop config later on. The two are so similar to each other
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