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| 00:21.18 | agrawalayush92 | tdfischer: hi, i am very interested in the project "kmix2 sound menu" for gsoc 2013 , pls guide me to what i could do to apply for the project. |
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| 01:58.43 | valorie | agrawalayush92: you need #kde-multimedia for kmix, and #kde-soc for GSoC |
| 01:59.08 | valorie | this channel is for general KDE support |
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| 02:06.22 | moeSizlak | how do i get the dolphin UP arrow icon back?!?!?! |
| 02:06.31 | moeSizlak | like, go to parent directory |
| 02:06.32 | moeSizlak | ffs |
| 02:07.44 | Juan | Configure toolbars |
| 02:07.49 | Juan | And calming down :> |
| 02:08.52 | moeSizlak | oh i see |
| 02:09.03 | moeSizlak | why in the name of christ would anyone not want the up arrow |
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| 02:09.22 | Juan | It's usually the same as going back |
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| 02:09.32 | moeSizlak | get to differ |
| 02:09.35 | moeSizlak | *beg |
| 02:09.40 | Juan | Sure. |
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| 02:15.31 | DuckKie | Does anyone know why that when I set transparency in my apps I don't see the underlying desktop or other app, but I'm looking at the kde-login screen? |
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| 02:19.24 | erfanian | Sounds like a bug DuckKie |
| 02:20.58 | DuckKie | just a long term annoyance, I thought maybe someone would have an answer. |
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| 02:21.39 | erfanian | How many versions have you experienced the issue across? |
| 02:22.04 | DuckKie | multible, ubuntu and fedora. |
| 02:22.27 | erfanian | What graphic drivers are you using? |
| 02:23.17 | DuckKie | I don't know if it's because of a mix of gnome and kde or like you said graphic. It's a amd 7770 graphics card. |
| 02:23.58 | erfanian | Does System Settings > Desktop Effects > Advanced Tab > Switching the composting type help? |
| 02:24.20 | DuckKie | humm, let me see. |
| 02:26.31 | DuckKie | Nope, and it says 9 desktop effects could not be loaded now. |
| 02:27.00 | DuckKie | so I'm going back to OpenGL |
| 02:27.21 | erfanian | Fair enough. Try switching the QT graphics system too? |
| 02:27.44 | DuckKie | k... |
| 02:28.02 | DuckKie | nope. |
| 02:28.18 | DuckKie | 19 desktop effects could not be loaded. |
| 02:28.29 | erfanian | Shucks. Sorry. Perhaps open a Kwin bug? The team is pretty good about responding/troubleshooting. |
| 02:29.35 | DuckKie | kinda weird how it sees the login desktop, but not the menus just the wallpaper. |
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| 02:30.00 | erfanian | I agree. |
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| 02:32.32 | DuckKie | erfanian: thanks for your help anyways! |
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| 06:10.44 | \rainman\ | Hello I'm looking at desktop icon files where does the Icon variable get its info |
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| 07:29.04 | geomyidae | eta on plasma workspaces 2 |
| 07:29.05 | geomyidae | go |
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| 07:41.19 | cb400f | 1-3 years ;-) |
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| 08:24.47 | Leoneof | kdesrc-build is still download + compiling since two days \o/ |
| 08:24.57 | Leoneof | oops, wrong channel |
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| 08:38.53 | valorie | Leoneof: you can use project neon instead |
| 08:39.05 | valorie | or opensuse's OBS |
| 08:39.22 | valorie | or just do it the gentoo way..... build always! |
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| 09:03.06 | Leoneof | valorie: gentoo way \o/ |
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| 09:14.42 | valorie | lol, Leoneof |
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| 10:48.02 | DaZ | interdasting |
| 10:48.41 | DaZ | when i start systemsettings through konsole, it uses bespin but through krunner it's oxygen ;_; |
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| 10:49.13 | annma | and what should it be |
| 10:49.28 | DaZ | bespin :v |
| 10:50.32 | annma | is all the rest in bespin? |
| 10:50.46 | DaZ | pretty much. |
| 10:50.51 | annma | when yo ustart a prog from Kickoff for example? |
| 10:50.57 | annma | petty much? |
| 10:51.04 | annma | sounds not a 100% |
| 10:52.00 | DaZ | dunno, i don't use kickoff :v |
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| 10:52.21 | annma | you don't have a menu launcher? |
| 10:52.32 | DaZ | nope. |
| 10:52.55 | annma | so run krunner from konsole |
| 10:53.00 | annma | what happens? |
| 10:53.09 | DaZ | did that already and it's working again. |
| 10:53.59 | annma | what's this Bespin? |
| 10:54.13 | DaZ | ;_; |
| 10:54.23 | annma | is it somethingyou download as an add-on? |
| 10:54.43 | DaZ | http://cloudcity.sourceforge.net/ |
| 10:55.22 | annma | what do I do when I'm there |
| 10:55.28 | annma | I so hate SourceForge |
| 10:55.38 | annma | it disorients me |
| 10:55.51 | DaZ | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/?content=63928 |
| 10:55.58 | annma | the link should be BespinNews and I see none |
| 10:56.29 | annma | a widget style but not very maintained |
| 10:56.34 | DaZ | wut |
| 10:57.11 | DaZ | keyword: svn |
| 10:57.34 | annma | updated 01/2011 more than 2 years ago |
| 10:58.04 | annma | svn link? |
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| 10:58.20 | DaZ | kde-look links to svn ;v |
| 10:58.59 | annma | well if you don't bother, I won't either |
| 10:59.08 | annma | kde-look is like sourceforge |
| 11:02.32 | annma | in any case report bug to Bespin guy |
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| 11:04.05 | DaZ | i can't really see how bespin could cause it :v |
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| 11:07.01 | annma | well you're not very keen on me to reproduce |
| 11:07.46 | annma | how can I install it from KDE? |
| 11:08.19 | annma | how did yo uinstall yours? |
| 11:08.31 | DaZ | https://cloudcity.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cloudcity, compile it, live a happy life :v |
| 11:08.50 | annma | so you installed it that way yourself? |
| 11:08.58 | DaZ | though it breaks at some random point. |
| 11:08.59 | DaZ | yup. |
| 11:09.07 | annma | DaZ: I comile everything so it's no big deal for me |
| 11:09.18 | annma | what breaks? |
| 11:09.31 | annma | it breaks but you installed anyway? how? |
| 11:09.32 | DaZ | stuff starts to use different widget style ;v |
| 11:09.47 | annma | tsss |
| 11:09.49 | annma | be precise |
| 11:10.04 | annma | you compile it then you install it where? |
| 11:10.09 | DaZ | ;_; |
| 11:10.34 | annma | normal users don't compile, they use their distro packages |
| 11:11.08 | DaZ | pretty much to /usr. |
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| 11:13.02 | annma | DaZ: why do yo uuse svn version and not a released versionK? |
| 11:13.13 | DaZ | probably because there isn't any. |
| 11:13.19 | annma | not sure what your svn co line was still |
| 11:13.29 | annma | no stable version? |
| 11:14.06 | annma | but you dismiss a bug in it |
| 11:14.07 | DaZ | isn't that what i just said :v |
| 11:14.29 | annma | somehow it clashes with my understanding of software |
| 11:14.46 | DaZ | i can't see how a bug in a style would cause apps to switch to different style |
| 11:14.53 | annma | go to your source dir and so svn info please |
| 11:14.58 | annma | then paste me the url |
| 11:14.59 | DaZ | and then every app launched by one specific app :v |
| 11:15.11 | annma | it'll be quicker than all those stupid links |
| 11:15.33 | DaZ | i don't have it anymore. |
| 11:15.40 | DaZ | https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/be/bespin-svn/PKGBUILD but knock yourself out :v |
| 11:16.02 | annma | that's the svn info URL link? |
| 11:16.09 | annma | ah you don't have it |
| 11:16.20 | annma | when did you install it then? |
| 11:16.21 | DaZ | i've patched some stuff in my build, but i still don't see any way how anything in the theme could cause it. |
| 11:16.48 | DaZ | apparently it was 1658 revision :v |
| 11:16.55 | annma | I can't reproduce so I won't comment |
| 11:17.47 | annma | ask archlinux people if they reproduce |
| 11:19.49 | BluesKaj | Howdy all |
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| 11:36.44 | Artakha | ah blargh. i'm styling kde at the moment and plastik uses the button background and window foreground for tabs |
| 11:37.06 | Artakha | so i get light gray on orange for tabs and it looks ugly :( |
| 11:37.27 | DaZ | >: |
| 11:37.47 | Artakha | as it does for scrollbars |
| 11:37.59 | Artakha | or scrollbar buttons, rather |
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| 11:41.55 | Artakha | and opera of course doesn't like the style either |
| 11:42.54 | DaZ | because opera has it's own fancy theming stuff :v |
| 11:43.08 | Artakha | yeah |
| 11:43.26 | Artakha | when will it learn to use the native style properly? |: |
| 11:43.31 | Artakha | i remember complaining about this 5 years ago |
| 11:44.18 | DaZ | never :3 |
| 11:44.26 | Artakha | sounds plausible |
| 11:44.35 | DaZ | it did for a while. |
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| 11:45.04 | Unlix | opera still looks more or less okay with KDE |
| 11:45.08 | Unlix | chrome is a real mess |
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| 11:45.47 | Artakha | Unlix, on a black-on-white style yeah |
| 11:46.05 | Artakha | but on a white-on-blackish scheme things go wonky |
| 11:46.21 | DaZ | they always do |
| 11:46.22 | Artakha | for instance the addressbar uses light gray on white |
| 11:46.46 | Unlix | i'm using qtcurve for gtk and qt... i can't even tell what it is exactly but something just doesn't seem right in chrome |
| 11:47.13 | Artakha | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66055976/opera.png |
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| 11:51.21 | dancapp | @Anyone - I've just had to reinstall KDE/Ubuntu and the 'User Management' icon is missing from 'System Settings'. What's the deal with that? |
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| 11:53.29 | BluesKaj | dancapp, have you updated/upgraded sinc ethe install ? |
| 11:54.39 | dancapp | BluesKaj: The install told me it was installing upgrades whilst I was installing the distro. But you raise a good point. I'll do it again and see. Bear with me. Thanks |
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| 11:55.37 | annma | isn't User Management an addon from Ubuntuin SystemSettings? |
| 11:56.08 | dancapp | annma: So not native to KDE... or? |
| 11:56.34 | annma | I think not, I can't see it although I'm in French |
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| 11:57.47 | Artakha | kubuntu does use kde's system settings |
| 11:58.18 | annma | are you sure? |
| 11:58.26 | Artakha | well i'm on kubuntu and i have the correct one :) |
| 11:58.48 | annma | what does KUbuntu use in place of SystemSettings then? |
| 11:59.13 | Artakha | uh? i see https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66055976/kde/systemsettings.png this one |
| 12:00.24 | dancapp | I've got SystemSetting, it's just that the User Management part is missing |
| 12:00.36 | annma | dancapp: ask in Kubuntu support channel |
| 12:02.00 | dancapp | annma: Thanks. But I am running Ubuntu with KDE (that's different from Kubuntu right?) |
| 12:02.15 | annma | ask in Ubuntu channel then |
| 12:02.17 | Artakha | dancapp, kubuntu is essentially ubuntu with the kubuntu-desktop package |
| 12:02.32 | Artakha | which afaik is kde + kubuntu branding |
| 12:03.13 | dancapp | Ok - thanks |
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| 12:04.21 | BluesKaj | dancapp, I'll see you in #kubuntu |
| 12:05.53 | dancapp | Thanks Artakha and annma. Later |
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| 12:15.05 | Walex2 | SOLID is telling aKregator that "Networking is not available" so aKregator is refusing to update feed even if I ask for that explicitly. Obviously my networking is up (this very same node), so SOLID detects that wrong. Please suggest either how to override SOLID or to configure SOLID to recognize that I have a network connection |
| 12:15.44 | Walex2 | Fortunately Konversation does not check SOLID's idea of whether networking is available, else I could not be using it right now... |
| 12:15.45 | annma | that only happens with Akregator? |
| 12:15.59 | annma | applets work on desktop? |
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| 12:17.13 | Walex2 | annma: well, perhaps only aKregator checks SOLID's idea of networking. BTW the SOLID idea of network availability *sometimes* works, for example if I have a PPP connection via a 3G USB modem, but not if I have Ethernet. BTW I also have a somewhat restrictive _outgoing_ firewall. |
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| 12:17.33 | annma | some applets use solid as well |
| 12:17.35 | Walex2 | annma: I don't have network enabled applets on the desktop. |
| 12:17.42 | Walex2 | annma: I'll try some... |
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| 12:25.07 | annma | Walex2: in a terminal you can try to look the command "solid-network" |
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| 12:25.30 | annma | solid-network --commands |
| 12:25.37 | Walex2 | annma: ah thanks. Is there some docs on which tests SOLID is running to check networking availability? |
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| 12:25.53 | annma | there are solid tests in kdelibs |
| 12:26.00 | annma | doc is in KDE API |
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| 12:26.12 | annma | there's a #solid channel as well |
| 12:26.22 | annma | not sure if it's responsive though |
| 12:27.40 | Walex2 | annma: AHHHH I'll try haunting that channel. 'solid-network listdevices' tells me I have no devices and I get an error "QFSFileEngine::open: No file name specified". I can work with that. |
| 12:28.43 | Walex2 | BTW this has been happening for me at least between 4.8.x and 4.10.2 and somewhat intermittently. |
| 12:28.54 | annma | hmmm me too "debug: network interface list contains: 0 entries" |
| 12:29.01 | Walex2 | annma: BTW many thanks for pointing to 'solid-network' very useful. |
| 12:29.26 | annma | maybe in #solid they can tell you more |
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| 12:35.21 | tjja | has anyone else experience kmix consuming lots of memory and CPU resources? |
| 12:36.12 | annma | tjja: no but you shoul dreport to bugs.kde.org with relevant information |
| 12:36.40 | tjja | annma: ok, is it off topic to discuss issues related to possible bugs here? |
| 12:37.02 | annma | no it's not off topic |
| 12:37.09 | tjja | annma: ok |
| 12:37.20 | annma | but asking first in your distribution channel if someone reproduce might be nice |
| 12:37.41 | annma | I don't have any kmix CPU problem myself |
| 12:37.46 | annma | or mem |
| 12:37.49 | tjja | annma: ah, you mean the channel for my distro (thats fedora) |
| 12:37.54 | annma | yes |
| 12:38.20 | annma | do you have a specific audio mixer? |
| 12:38.26 | annma | audio card? |
| 12:38.30 | annma | something exotic? |
| 12:38.36 | tjja | annma: oh, hmm, I dont really know, its integrated on my motherboard |
| 12:38.54 | annma | is it your first use of KDE? |
| 12:39.27 | tjja | annma: no Ive used it for a while, and Ive actually noticed the issue for a year or so, but I upgraded my distro a few days ago, and it seems noticeably worse now |
| 12:39.46 | tjja | killing 'kmix' and restarting it makes it ok, for a few hours... then its back up on mem and CPU usage again |
| 12:39.58 | annma | without doing anything? |
| 12:40.11 | tjja | annma: well, I change volume and such while listening to mp3s |
| 12:40.36 | tjja | I mean, I use the volume control "as usual", as one would while surfing youtube listening to mp3s |
| 12:41.07 | annma | better ask first inFedora channel what they think |
| 12:41.47 | tjja | yeah, your right in principle. Unfortunately, Ive been burned a lot in #fedora, some of them are often unhelpful, aggressive and rude (at least, they were back in 2009-2010, when I stopped going there) |
| 12:42.01 | annma | really? |
| 12:42.26 | tjja | annma: that was my experience back then, yes (with some of the regulars there) |
| 12:42.33 | tjja | things might have changed now... |
| 12:43.27 | annma | I don't know a lot about audio so I can't tell you more |
| 12:43.57 | annma | I am not sure it's a KMix problem or a backend one |
| 12:44.23 | tjja | annma: yeah, true. But anyhow, Ill try #fedora... thanks for your help, I appreciate it! |
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| 12:46.21 | Mamarok | tjja: you might want to use the forum instead of IRC, people are more helpful there |
| 12:46.42 | Mamarok | on fedroa that is |
| 12:46.47 | Mamarok | fedora* |
| 12:47.10 | tjja | Mamarok: thanks for the pointer, Ill try that! :) |
| 12:48.12 | Walex2 | annma: on the SOLID/networking issue using the 'solid-network' command and the error message it seems that it is a moderately common issue, afflicts KGet as well, and relates to people who don't use NetworkManager. And I think relates to updates in the KDE SC that are not reflected into updates in $KDEHOME for a user |
| 12:48.30 | BluesKaj | annma, have you checked alsamixer , and made sure the ctls are unmuted and turned up |
| 12:48.44 | dancapp | @All: I fragged my old install and had to reinstall. When I tried to move my backed up system files over from my extrernal drive to my new install I hit permissions problems. But when I go into System Settings there is no User Management icon to manage permissions like there used to be. Any idea why, and how to fix it? |
| 12:48.57 | Artakha | for the record solid-network claims it can't find any network devices for me either |
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| 12:49.27 | annma | BluesKaj: you mean tjja |
| 12:50.09 | annma | Walex2: what do you use instead of nm? |
| 12:50.19 | BluesKaj | ok annma sorry , should have scrolled up further |
| 12:50.31 | annma | ;) no problem BluesKaj |
| 12:50.33 | Walex2 | Walex2: static configuration... |
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| 12:51.08 | tjja | BluesKaj: I checked alsamix, yes its at max and unmuted, but how is that related to memory and CPU usage of kmix? |
| 12:52.21 | BluesKaj | ok nm tjja , forget it |
| 12:52.50 | Walex2 | annma: static configuration for networking. |
| 12:53.18 | BluesKaj | I'll be more diligent about trying help the next time |
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| 12:53.55 | annma | Walex2: yes I got it but I am out of ideas, did yo utry the solid channel? |
| 12:54.24 | Walex2 | annma: I tried... I am telling you this because I am investigating the issue and you seem to have it as well. |
| 12:54.34 | annma | Walex2: not at all |
| 12:54.43 | annma | I use nm and I have no issue |
| 12:54.58 | annma | it's only solid-network which outputs wrong stuff |
| 12:55.00 | Walex2 | annma: but SOLID still tells you have no interfaces. |
| 12:55.21 | Walex2 | annma: some of the web discussions about this say that the issue can happen even with NM. |
| 12:55.42 | annma | "solid-network listdevices" is not working, that's it |
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| 12:55.51 | annma | the Solid code works well for me |
| 12:55.59 | annma | I tested it in some applet |
| 12:56.04 | Walex2 | annma: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=135284 |
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| 13:57.51 | Safa_[A_boy] | hi all, How can I register in KDE Localization ? |
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| 14:13.07 | morsik | hi, it's possible in kde to have independent desktops in multiple screens? |
| 14:13.32 | morsik | for ex: 1st monitor: 4th desktop, 2nd monitor: 7th desktop |
| 14:13.32 | morsik | like in awesomewm |
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| 14:14.45 | Safa_[A_boy] | hi all, How can I register in KDE Localization ? |
| 14:14.51 | BluesKaj | morsik, try the pager , but i'm not sure |
| 14:15.14 | morsik | BluesKaj: in 4.9 i couldn't do this. switching desktops switched them on both monitors... |
| 14:15.16 | BluesKaj | Safa_[A_boy], KDE Localization ? |
| 14:15.37 | cb400f | Safa_[A_boy]: contact the existing team for your language if one exists: http://i18n.kde.org/teams-list.php |
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| 14:16.12 | BluesKaj | oh , locale |
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| 14:19.29 | Walex | svuorela: well, offlining eth0 brought down IPv6 too.However this is what happened to the debug log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5707822/ |
| 14:20.28 | Walex | svuorela: went to '2' on 'ip l s down dev eth0', then '1', then '4' when I started Konversation again. |
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| 14:30.04 | svuorela | Walex: first, ntrack tells you that you're offline (2 in ntrack language). that is then reported as offline in solid ('1' in solid language). A bit later, you are reported as online in ntrack (1 in ntrack language) which is then reported to solid as online (4 in solid language) |
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| 14:37.13 | Walex | svuorela: interesting. Curiously I think that the "online" bit from 'ntrack' to 'solid' only happened when I restarted Konversation, but it may be my impression. |
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| 14:39.58 | jtalk | Hi! Can you advise me any kde/qt-based screenshoting tool with auto-upload to remote server? There is Shutter, but it's buggy and GTK-based. |
| 14:41.21 | Walex | jtalk: 'kscreenshot' and then KDE apps use KIO slaves to do IO to almost anything. |
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| 14:42.04 | Artakha | isn't it ksnapshot? |
| 14:48.38 | jtalk | Walex: Oh, thank you. I didn't really know about that KIO thing, I thought ksnapshot just saves everything to the filesystem. This covers almost everything I need |
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| 14:50.43 | Walex | yes, ksnapshot |
| 14:51.07 | Walex | jtalk: KDE apps can use filesystem URLs or almost any other URL to do most IO. |
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| 14:51.56 | jtalk | Walex, how do they know that URL's api? |
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| 14:53.19 | Walex | jtalk: the KDE libraries have all those APIs builtin. |
| 14:53.47 | Walex | jtalk: those libraries are the KIO modules for various URL schemes. |
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| 14:57.17 | jtalk | Walex, that's cool, thank you |
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| 15:02.43 | esing | Hi |
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| 15:03.28 | crazedpsyc | is there a way to "break at line" or in a function in konqueror's javascript debugger? |
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| 15:05.52 | esing | If I want to switch to fullscreen in firefox or in rekonq then it works only like on the third or fourth time. It tries to go to fullscreen, flickers shortly and fails. After three fourth attempts it works then. My flash version is the newest I guess: 11.2 r202 Is there a solution for this issue? |
| 15:07.56 | BluesKaj | esing, fullscreen or fullwindow ? |
| 15:08.34 | esing | BluesKaj, Fullscreen |
| 15:09.15 | BluesKaj | then i don't know , esing |
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| 15:10.46 | esing | BluesKaj, How do you define fullwindow and fullscreen? |
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| 15:13.50 | esing | "A fullscreen image or video occupies the screen entirely"; In my case the video covers the whole screen. I guess by fullwindow you mean that the video covers the whole browser window but the browser top or bottom is still seen |
| 15:14.44 | BluesKaj | esing, fullscreen is without any panels |
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| 15:15.02 | BluesKaj | covers the whole screen |
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| 15:28.50 | FireBeard | made a booboo |
| 15:28.52 | FireBeard | my panel clock is very wide, so the icons that should be on the right, are now all on the left |
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| 15:29.40 | mouse | hi |
| 15:30.04 | mouse | My KDE desktop is crashing several times. It says it's a segmentation fault from kdeinit. |
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| 15:30.39 | FireBeard | well, it is KDE, innit |
| 15:30.44 | FireBeard | sorry, I'll show myself out |
| 15:31.32 | annma | mouse: check with your distribution if you installed everything OK |
| 15:31.41 | annma | is it a first installation mouse? |
| 15:32.53 | mouse | annma: I'm running openSUSE 12.3. |
| 15:33.05 | annma | me too |
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| 15:33.36 | annma | new installation mouse? |
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| 15:38.30 | mouse | yes |
| 15:39.31 | annma | when do yo uget the crashes? |
| 15:39.33 | FireBeard | getting rid of, and putting back the clock widget fixed the wide clock, but now, still, all the icons are on the left, including the clock |
| 15:41.22 | mouse | annma: I'm just using it, and it suddenly crashes. It shows me a dialog window with the error. |
| 15:42.16 | annma | and then what happens? |
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| 17:04.09 | haakonn | i added my owncloud as an akonadi resource, but now it asks for my kwallet password every time my laptop wakes up or i log in, that's so annoying. i want kwallet to just remember that it's ok, not ask every freaking time |
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| 17:14.23 | thiago | that's not kwallet |
| 17:14.26 | thiago | that's the resource |
| 17:14.38 | thiago | it should remember the password if it has loaded it once |
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| 17:16.19 | haakonn | ok, well, i'm starting to suspect that i actually had the wrong password. i'll keep an eye on it, thanks |
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| 17:34.14 | marccollin | hi |
| 17:35.39 | marccollin | somebody know why we can upload file with konqueror on google web site, like blogger? |
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| 17:37.11 | thiago | why we can? |
| 17:37.22 | thiago | that's usually because the website has an input requesting a file |
| 17:37.47 | marccollin | error we can't.. |
| 17:38.25 | thiago | why can't you? |
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| 17:38.30 | thiago | what happens when you try? |
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| 17:43.49 | penguin42 | hmm; I'm running gephi (graph layout) under KDE; just starting it up kwin is eating 5% cpu - very odd |
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| 17:45.11 | penguin42 | other than taking perf to kwin, any other suggestions? |
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| 17:49.38 | penguin42 | hmm I do have a 'QML Flickable: Possible anchor loop detected on fill.' from org.kde.notifications/contnets/ui/main.qml and a 'Possible anchor loop detected on fill' from NotificationDelegate.qml |
| 17:49.56 | cb400f | tl |
| 17:50.11 | cb400f | toggling off effects is always a good start to isolate the issue |
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| 18:19.43 | FireBeard | <FireBeard> my panel clock is very wide, so the icons that should be on the right, are now all on the left |
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| 18:19.57 | FireBeard | <FireBeard> getting rid of, and putting back the clock widget fixed the wide clock, but now, still, all the icons are on the left, including the clock |
| 18:20.02 | annma | when did that happen? |
| 18:20.05 | FireBeard | can somebody fix it for me? |
| 18:20.23 | FireBeard | annma: a few hours ago ;) |
| 18:20.29 | annma | maybe a screenshot would be useful |
| 18:20.29 | FireBeard | actually, I don't really remember |
| 18:20.42 | annma | do yo uremember what triggered the bug? |
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| 18:20.53 | FireBeard | no, then I could fix it |
| 18:20.53 | annma | a screenshot would be nice |
| 18:21.01 | FireBeard | working on it, VERY slow laptop |
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| 18:22.16 | FireBeard | http://i.imgur.com/NjRHL5K.png |
| 18:22.20 | FireBeard | the bottom bar |
| 18:22.30 | FireBeard | see, all those icons that SHOULD be on the right, are on the left |
| 18:23.01 | FireBeard | don't mind the 800.00MHZ on top, that's just a bad widget, but I like how it looks |
| 18:23.21 | annma | it looks bad! |
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| 18:23.31 | FireBeard | haha, I know |
| 18:23.47 | FireBeard | still, little help with the icons in the lower left? |
| 18:24.15 | FireBeard | they should be for the most part be on the right |
| 18:24.17 | annma | can you open the panel settings (the thing on the right) and replace everything? |
| 18:24.32 | FireBeard | yes |
| 18:24.42 | FireBeard | just not where the icons are placed |
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| 18:25.01 | FireBeard | it's my first time using new KDE |
| 18:25.03 | annma | you mean you can't move the systray? |
| 18:25.10 | FireBeard | yes |
| 18:25.16 | annma | click on the thing on the right of the panel |
| 18:25.19 | FireBeard | probably that's called what it is |
| 18:25.32 | FireBeard | keep talking so I can do it |
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| 18:26.16 | FireBeard | please keep talking and explaining, so I can do what you are saying to me 'in real time' |
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| 18:26.28 | annma | well my KDE is in French |
| 18:26.43 | FireBeard | transelate it as best as you can |
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| 18:26.56 | FireBeard | my mother language is Dutch, we'll figure it out :D |
| 18:27.00 | annma | clicking on the thing on the right allows you to move the clock and the systray |
| 18:27.08 | FireBeard | my installed KDE language is English |
| 18:27.31 | annma | the Panel Toolbox I think it is called |
| 18:27.32 | FireBeard | the arrow,or the quarter corner? |
| 18:27.55 | annma | the thing that is grey and becomes yellow when yo uhover the mouse |
| 18:28.14 | FireBeard | ok, yes, I know about that, and I clicked it |
| 18:28.20 | FireBeard | next step please |
| 18:28.34 | annma | so now you can move the widgets |
| 18:29.00 | annma | yo ucan move the clock on the most right, just next to this toolbox icon |
| 18:29.02 | FireBeard | hmmm, we have different versions of KDE then |
| 18:29.33 | FireBeard | ok, I can, but it snaps back to where it came from |
| 18:29.37 | FireBeard | sorry to doubt you |
| 18:29.46 | annma | but it was not like that as default |
| 18:29.54 | FireBeard | no |
| 18:29.59 | annma | so yo uneed to reset your config file |
| 18:30.14 | FireBeard | the whole thing moved to the left, so must also move to the right again |
| 18:30.15 | FireBeard | :x |
| 18:30.23 | FireBeard | oh god, really? |
| 18:30.46 | annma | not sure what to do else |
| 18:30.51 | FireBeard | ok |
| 18:31.03 | annma | :( |
| 18:31.03 | FireBeard | maybe someone who knows the trick comes by :) |
| 18:31.07 | annma | yes |
| 18:31.10 | annma | keep trying |
| 18:31.11 | FireBeard | thanks for your help tho !! |
| 18:31.40 | FireBeard | I'm only half bothered, this is just a temporary install on a temporary computer |
| 18:32.13 | FireBeard | so only a quick fix will interest me :) |
| 18:33.51 | FireBeard | I'm hopefully going to UPGRADE [yes !!!!] to WIndows :D |
| 18:33.52 | FireBeard | gheh |
| 18:34.47 | annma | eeerk |
| 18:34.55 | FireBeard | it irritates me that somehow that whole thing can move to the left, but not back |
| 18:35.16 | FireBeard | I KNOW it's something I did, but to undo it, there's no way to find that option |
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| 18:35.39 | FireBeard | annma: haha, I've had enough of Linux for long time |
| 18:36.07 | FireBeard | and I´m sure I'll go back again |
| 18:36.26 | FireBeard | but, in my mind, Windows sounds like bliss |
| 18:37.03 | FireBeard | no more cool/expensive gadgets/addons without drivers available for Linux |
| 18:37.06 | FireBeard | aaaaaaaah |
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| 20:49.22 | nNa | Which distro would you prefer for KDE? I've been looking at OpenSUSE, Mint and Chakra. |
| 20:49.44 | nNa | I would prefer Chakra since it's rolling release (AFAIK), but how stable is it? |
| 20:50.45 | nNa | I'm especially looking at laptop battery life here. |
| 20:51.46 | DaZ | it's pretty stable |
| 20:52.42 | FireBeard | does it really matter? |
| 20:52.55 | DaZ | as for battery life, dunno :v i keep hearing that canonical patches stuff for this, but couldn't confirm it. |
| 20:52.57 | BluesKaj | chakra's pretty stable , depends what you run on it like any other oS |
| 20:52.59 | FireBeard | the ones who carry KDE at default, I think |
| 20:54.08 | FireBeard | first find out what distro's carry KDE as their default |
| 20:54.14 | FireBeard | that's your best bet |
| 20:54.27 | nNa | OK, thanks. |
| 20:54.35 | FireBeard | cheers |
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| 20:56.19 | FireBeard | at the core, nothing really mattress, but when it comes down to pure default the default DE will matter |
| 20:56.31 | FireBeard | sorry for the pun |
| 20:56.39 | nNa | Mainly I prefer customizability, but I'm afraid that with Arch for instance, there will be issues setting it up (I have lot of experience with Arch, Gentoo and such, but I quickly mess something up) and making with laptop friendly will be even worse. |
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| 20:57.11 | FireBeard | well, then first think about the DE you want to use |
| 20:57.41 | FireBeard | and YES, the DE is THAT important these days |
| 20:58.01 | DaZ | dunno, i run arch on a laptop and it feels ok :V |
| 20:58.02 | nNa | My first option would be GNOME2, but that's pretty much dead. On the other hand, I've always wanted to try KDE. |
| 20:58.22 | FireBeard | nNa: well, try MATE then |
| 20:58.30 | FireBeard | if you like Gnome2 |
| 20:58.42 | FireBeard | Mint runs MATE as a default |
| 20:58.52 | FireBeard | and thus will be kept updated |
| 20:59.01 | FireBeard | even via their own update system |
| 20:59.41 | nNa | How often is Mint updated (as in kernel, mesa etc.)? |
| 20:59.49 | FireBeard | Mint has Cinnamon as their default, but MATE is their second DE |
| 21:00.00 | FireBeard | about as often as Ubuntu |
| 21:00.10 | FireBeard | since it's based on that |
| 21:00.20 | FireBeard | so I'd say very often |
| 21:00.25 | nNa | Oh, too bad. I like 'rolling release'-like. |
| 21:01.02 | FireBeard | ...NONE of the Ubu based OS'ses are rolling |
| 21:01.03 | nNa | Well, I'll give MATE and KDE a try. |
| 21:01.07 | FireBeard | should have said that before |
| 21:01.16 | nNa | Yeah, I didn't know it's Ubuntu-based. |
| 21:01.19 | FireBeard | if you like Gnome2, try MATE |
| 21:01.56 | FireBeard | you can join #mate and ask questions |
| 21:02.06 | nNa | Well, thanks for the help. |
| 21:02.10 | nNa | I appreciate it. |
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| 21:02.28 | FireBeard | I think it's not a short term 'bridge'yw |
| 21:02.30 | FireBeard | yw |
| 21:03.17 | FireBeard | I haven't tried it, but it seems like Cinnamon, is the best of both worlds |
| 21:03.28 | FireBeard | at least for now |
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| 21:18.18 | BobLfoot | I am testing f19 for fedora and just loaded the KDE version of F19. SHould I have a download progress bar somewhere when downloading a file with Konqueror? |
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| 21:27.12 | DaZ | BobLfoot: notification plasmoid in the tray should handle it |
| 21:27.41 | FireBeard | question again: when I save files to Desktop, why don't they appear on my desktop? |
| 21:28.03 | DaZ | because by default desktop doesn't display any icons :v |
| 21:28.11 | FireBeard | they DO appear at /home/desktop/ |
| 21:28.18 | FireBeard | strange |
| 21:28.21 | FireBeard | why not? |
| 21:28.23 | FireBeard | :? |
| 21:28.27 | DaZ | FireBeard: and the default desktop view doesn't do that. |
| 21:28.35 | DaZ | right click and switch the view to folder view |
| 21:28.37 | FireBeard | it's whee I expect them to be |
| 21:28.43 | BobLfoot | DaZ: I am not seeing a notification in tray and Konqueror let me close it without warning yet the download appears to be ongoing If I look in Documents foo.part is growing still |
| 21:28.54 | FireBeard | more illogical nonsense? |
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| 21:29.12 | DaZ | FireBeard: whatever dude :v |
| 21:29.20 | BobLfoot | DaZ: I stand corrected there was a notification in tray it was greeyed out and I dismissed it thanks |
| 21:29.27 | FireBeard | I thought KDE had grown up over the 4. years |
| 21:29.28 | FireBeard | :\ |
| 21:29.35 | FireBeard | still not logical |
| 21:29.43 | DaZ | it is logical. |
| 21:29.51 | FireBeard | to you yes |
| 21:29.54 | FireBeard | to me, no |
| 21:30.10 | FireBeard | if I save something to desktop, I expect it to be there |
| 21:30.17 | thiago | it's still logical |
| 21:30.20 | thiago | it's just not your choice |
| 21:30.49 | FireBeard | to me, my desktop is my desktop, and if I save somehting to there, I expect it to end up there |
| 21:30.52 | thiago | you can't save something to the desktop. You can save it to the disk, that's all. |
| 21:31.01 | FireBeard | I must be missing something |
| 21:31.02 | FireBeard | :) |
| 21:31.03 | thiago | and you can make the desktop show the contents of a particular folder. |
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| 21:31.29 | FireBeard | there's NO other DE that works this way |
| 21:31.31 | thiago | how did you save to the desktop in the first place? |
| 21:31.35 | DaZ | hum |
| 21:31.41 | FireBeard | save to desktop |
| 21:31.44 | thiago | where? |
| 21:31.46 | thiago | in a KDE application? |
| 21:31.51 | FireBeard | home/desktop |
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| 21:32.09 | FireBeard | in for instance GIMP |
| 21:32.16 | DaZ | it's still just a folder named desktop in your home directory |
| 21:32.21 | FireBeard | and just the screenshot thingy |
| 21:32.24 | thiago | that's not a KDE application |
| 21:32.25 | away | just switch to folder view then? |
| 21:32.33 | thiago | anyway, if you want that behaviour, turn it on |
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| 21:32.39 | FireBeard | fine, but why not show up on my desktop? |
| 21:32.44 | thiago | we believed that showing something different by default was more interesting |
| 21:32.48 | FireBeard | I tried that |
| 21:32.55 | thiago | if you don't like it, you can change to the folder view |
| 21:33.00 | FireBeard | maybe I'm not logical, sorry |
| 21:33.01 | thiago | the choice is yours |
| 21:33.13 | thiago | this is not about logic. This is about taste / preferences. |
| 21:33.13 | FireBeard | the folder view...? |
| 21:33.26 | FireBeard | I have to change something, for something to appear on my desktop? |
| 21:33.27 | FireBeard | :? |
| 21:33.28 | thiago | 14:28 < DaZ> right click and switch the view to folder view |
| 21:33.34 | FireBeard | yes, I get tha |
| 21:33.36 | FireBeard | but... |
| 21:33.52 | FireBeard | I have to DO something before I can save it to desktop? |
| 21:34.00 | thiago | no |
| 21:34.09 | FireBeard | there is no other DE that does this |
| 21:34.16 | thiago | you do that once and your desktop will show the contents of a particular folder |
| 21:34.37 | FireBeard | not Gnome, not XFCE, not Windows, nor OSX |
| 21:34.40 | thiago | so? |
| 21:34.42 | FireBeard | ok |
| 21:34.44 | FireBeard | sorry |
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| 21:36.04 | FireBeard | I know how to find the files, but I think *THINK* that not everybody can, and get confused and maybe even give up on KDE |
| 21:36.18 | thiago | understood |
| 21:36.40 | FireBeard | and noted? |
| 21:36.41 | away | spending 30 seconds on googling sounds easier than installing a different DE |
| 21:36.42 | FireBeard | thanks :) |
| 21:36.52 | thiago | the choice was made with full knowledge of that. It was felt that the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. |
| 21:37.13 | FireBeard | away: better than logic? |
| 21:37.28 | thiago | we've established that both ways are logical |
| 21:37.28 | FireBeard | it's just an icon... |
| 21:37.35 | FireBeard | ok |
| 21:37.40 | FireBeard | sorry to bother you then |
| 21:38.08 | thiago | your question was valid |
| 21:38.13 | FireBeard | I'm a long time Linux user, used KDE up to 3.5, and then went over to Gnome |
| 21:38.17 | thiago | only slightly too confrontational |
| 21:38.31 | FireBeard | in all this time, this issue never came up once |
| 21:39.02 | FireBeard | not even with XFCE, busybox, etc |
| 21:39.17 | FireBeard | KDE seems to defy logic :D |
| 21:39.32 | thiago | no, it just defies your taste and preferences |
| 21:39.34 | DaZ | every other de tries to defy it even more, so. |
| 21:39.40 | thiago | there's a logic to the choice |
| 21:39.48 | thiago | the desktop is most often covered by other windows |
| 21:40.01 | thiago | so placing files there means that you will not often see them |
| 21:40.04 | FireBeard | thiago: what if a lot of people are confused by this? |
| 21:40.13 | thiago | if you just want a place to save files, you can have that without showing them behind all windows |
| 21:40.24 | thiago | FireBeard: if a lot of people are confused the default can be changed |
| 21:40.27 | FireBeard | is it then still only my taste and preference? |
| 21:40.41 | thiago | FireBeard: now accept that we've been doing this for 5 years and not many people have complained |
| 21:41.08 | FireBeard | ok, but I also thing a lot of people just gave up |
| 21:41.16 | thiago | possible |
| 21:41.23 | thiago | but I doubt that this was the cause of giving up |
| 21:41.31 | FireBeard | and a lot of people have never used things like Gnome, or even Windows |
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| 21:41.38 | thiago | sounds like a really minor issue, especially since 30 seconds on Google or on IRC solves it |
| 21:41.40 | FireBeard | to me, this is a really really strange thing |
| 21:41.52 | FireBeard | and I'm a long time computer user |
| 21:42.03 | FireBeard | ok |
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| 21:42.24 | FireBeard | I wonder how many novices know how to google such things |
| 21:43.09 | DaZ | there's gnome for that level of stupid |
| 21:43.12 | DaZ | :c |
| 21:43.19 | FireBeard | ...? |
| 21:43.33 | FireBeard | sorry to try and make KDE better... |
| 21:43.40 | FireBeard | being called stupid |
| 21:44.01 | DaZ | dunno, you've managed to ask and get the answer instead of running away |
| 21:44.06 | DaZ | so i'd say you're not there yet <: |
| 21:44.27 | thiago | FireBeard: no one called you stupid |
| 21:44.37 | thiago | FireBeard: and like I said, your suggestion was noted |
| 21:45.12 | DaZ | butsrsly, kde is all about switching that stuff, if someone can't handle it then most likely he won't like a lot of kde stuff :v |
| 21:45.22 | FireBeard | [23:43:08] <DaZ> there's gnome for that level of stupid |
| 21:45.25 | thiago | that doesn't mean we will implement it. The choice was made for good reasons and it doesn't seem to have driven people away. |
| 21:45.32 | DaZ | FireBeard I wonder how many novices know how to google such things |
| 21:45.48 | FireBeard | I wish I could make myself more clear, sadly English is not my first language |
| 21:45.51 | thiago | FireBeard: context: he meant that removing options is gnome stupidity |
| 21:45.52 | FireBeard | :\ |
| 21:46.05 | FireBeard | much better... |
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| 21:46.50 | FireBeard | DaZ: ok, how would you exactly google such a question then? |
| 21:47.02 | FireBeard | to me, it would be quite complicated for novices |
| 21:47.17 | FireBeard | remember, YOU are novice googling |
| 21:47.23 | DaZ | google.com/search?q=kde+4+icons+on+desktop |
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| 21:47.36 | FireBeard | yes, those are icons |
| 21:47.40 | FireBeard | and now what? |
| 21:47.41 | IanN | is there a channel for kholidays discussion? |
| 21:47.50 | DaZ | and you get http://userbase.kde.org/Configure_your_desktop#Icons obviously ;v |
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| 21:48.13 | FireBeard | never mind |
| 21:48.29 | FireBeard | sorry if my stupid ass tried to help |
| 21:48.51 | DaZ | dude wat |
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| 21:49.20 | DaZ | everybody appreciates it, i think. but this isn't really an issue that needs more fixing <: |
| 21:49.55 | FireBeard | it's a logic issue that makes the DE more usable and understandable |
| 21:50.07 | DaZ | and i don't see how is this illogical. |
| 21:50.39 | FireBeard | I have been using computers since the 70's, I THINK I know a thing or two |
| 21:50.54 | FireBeard | I have actually seen them evolve |
| 21:50.54 | DaZ | almost all of the slim wms don't display icons, windows 8 crippled it's desktop even more and everyone seems ok with it. |
| 21:51.06 | thiago | it's a logic issue that makes your desktop less cluttered |
| 21:51.15 | DaZ | i can't recall if gnome3 has icons ;_; |
| 21:51.22 | thiago | since we've already established that both choices are logical, it's just a matter of choice |
| 21:51.26 | FireBeard | I am so fucking sorry that I even brought this up... |
| 21:51.29 | DaZ | but i don't see any on the screenshots. |
| 21:51.30 | FireBeard | or came here |
| 21:51.48 | FireBeard | DaZ: try it out |
| 21:51.54 | DaZ | cut this emo talk dude :v |
| 21:51.54 | FireBeard | and yes, I hate Gnome 3 too |
| 21:51.59 | FireBeard | jok |
| 21:52.06 | thiago | DaZ: and you need to be less confrontational too |
| 21:52.09 | FireBeard | Im out |
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| 21:52.22 | DaZ | ;_; |
| 21:52.31 | DaZ | i think i accidentally into confrontational. |
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| 21:56.46 | DaZ | now only one thing can be done |
| 21:56.48 | DaZ | http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/353/279/e31.jpg |
| 21:59.47 | Artakha | heh |
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| 22:03.27 | Unlix | oookay, my weather-wallpaper is still broken |
| 22:03.56 | Unlix | and i have no fucking clue why :/ |
| 22:04.14 | DaZ | i don't think i've ever figured out how that works |
| 22:04.51 | Unlix | it works perfect on my desktop machine and it worked perfect on my old notebook |
| 22:05.28 | Unlix | but for some reason i just cant figure out it just reverts to the default wallpaper on my new one |
| 22:05.42 | Unlix | dont even know what i've done differently |
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| 22:07.53 | Unlix | maybe the next update will magically fix it |
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| 22:27.37 | Unlix | ookay... it seems to be working now |
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| 22:28.04 | Unlix | mh nope... not with my home town.... seems to be an issue with the weather source |
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