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| 00:12.39 | alainus | Hi, my laptop always crashes when coming back from suspend state. This is the output of /var/log/messages around the last crash: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7db7b7baaf0e9006b9f1. Can someone please tell me what to look for? |
| 00:14.45 | alainus | I guess the error is [ 4990.542521] [drm:radeon_cs_ioctl] *ERROR* Failed to parse relocation -35! |
| 00:15.20 | thiago | alainus: sorry, but not a KDE error |
| 00:15.34 | thiago | you're getting an error from your video driver |
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| 00:25.06 | bit_shifter | I have quite a delay between entering my password at the kdm prompt and the time that I can actually use any applications (which is at the same time the login sound plays). Neither kdm.log nor Xorg.0.log seem to show anything relevant as far as the delay goes. How can I troubleshoot this? |
| 00:25.22 | bit_shifter | Arch Linux and KDE 4.10.2 |
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| 00:49.39 | rdieter | bit_shifter: in my experience, akonadi's use of mysql and nepomuk's use of virtuoso db is a double whammy |
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| 00:56.46 | bit_shifter | I see... I'll have to find a refresher for what those actually do. this is a fresh arch install on an i7 with an SSD... I figured it should get to a usable state much faster than it does. |
| 00:57.03 | bit_shifter | I just assumed there was a problem. |
| 00:57.38 | rdieter | bit_shifter: you didn't mention ... how long exactly? |
| 00:58.01 | rdieter | quite a delay, is how much for you? |
| 00:58.30 | bit_shifter | a minute? it varies between boots a bit |
| 00:59.17 | rdieter | ok, a minute is definitely longer that it should. even my old laptop (no ssd) gets in about 20-30 seconds |
| 00:59.29 | bit_shifter | it's strange, since most of the visuals load up (desktop wallpaper, icons, taskbar, previous konsole session), but nothing besides konsole is usable until the sound plays |
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| 01:00.21 | rdieter | anything interesting in ~/.xsession-errors ? |
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| 01:01.30 | bit_shifter | there's quite a bit in there. without timestamps, it's difficult to tell when it all happened |
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| 01:01.44 | bit_shifter | lots of "X Error: RenderBadPicture" entries |
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| 01:02.32 | bit_shifter | and other X Errors: BadDrawable, BadWindow, BadValue |
| 01:04.40 | bit_shifter | as far as kde-specific stuff goes, it looks like /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub is complaining about various "properties" not existing for my hard drives "DeviceNumber" and "Device"... strange. |
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| 01:14.19 | bit_shifter | also, if I do a "systemctl restart kdm.service", there's only like a 3-5 second delay between login and welcome sound |
| 01:15.17 | rdieter | bit_shifter: systemctl restart ... before or after trying to login once already? |
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| 01:15.32 | rdieter | (or either?) |
| 01:15.34 | bit_shifter | after being logged in for a bit already |
| 01:16.13 | rdieter | and without 'systemctl restart..." logout/login is still slow? |
| 01:16.41 | bit_shifter | only from a fresh boot/reboot |
| 01:17.12 | rdieter | ok, so seems the systemctl restart doesn't matter |
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| 01:18.56 | bit_shifter | just means that it's got to be something that is started up on boot and doesn't occur on re-logging. though, "systemd-analyze blame" shows no such delay, so it's after systemd has handed off control |
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| 05:17.08 | zeekzack | my kubuntu desktop in not showing after login except blank background and cursor |
| 05:17.09 | zeekzack | can somebody tell how to get out of it?? |
| 05:20.06 | zeekzack | ?? |
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| 10:09.33 | zorael | Which (Qt/KWin) graphicssystem is the recommended default nowadays? The scenario machine would be a Sandy Bridge laptop, so the (CPU die) integrated graphics aren't completely atrocious. And the less power drawn the better? |
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| 10:31.21 | ovidiu-florin | hello world :D |
| 10:32.11 | ovidiu-florin | how can I reset everything about kontact, I mean kmail akonadi, kalarms, calendar, contacts. reset it all to default. what should I do/delete? |
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| 10:55.04 | DaZ | zorael: usually native |
| 10:55.28 | zorael | DaZ: all right, thanks |
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| 10:57.28 | rellig | hey everyone! |
| 10:57.48 | Leoneof | hello, i just compiled + installed kde4.10.60, how to run in startup? |
| 10:58.05 | rellig | how can i reset the configuration for my lockscreen? currently i get a black screen and have to restart the x-server |
| 10:58.14 | rellig | it works with a new user ... |
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| 11:20.00 | BluesKaj | 'Morning all |
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| 11:41.56 | poisond | hi :) |
| 11:42.27 | Leoneof | :[ |
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| 11:49.49 | poisond | After resuming from suspend to ram, plasma-desktop/akonadi go crazy using 100% CPU for over a minute and leaving the desktop unusable. Any idea what the cause could be or how to fix it? kde 4.10.2, dualcore and 8GB of RAM, no swapping going on |
| 11:49.54 | Leoneof | anyone? |
| 11:50.39 | poisond | Leoneof: kdm to inittab, depending on your distri |
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| 11:52.27 | BluesKaj | poisond, how big is your swap ? |
| 11:53.01 | poisond | BluesKaj: 4GB. But there's no swapping going on |
| 11:53.05 | BluesKaj | swap should be equal to Ram |
| 11:53.16 | poisond | BluesKaj: suspend to ram, not to disk |
| 11:53.25 | BluesKaj | oops sorry |
| 11:53.43 | BluesKaj | has another coffee |
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| 11:55.43 | Leoneof | poisond: i'm using Debian Wheezy, the instructions in this techbase.kde.org/Archive:Getting_Started/Run/Full_Session is totally useless. |
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| 11:56.37 | Leoneof | i'm using lightdm |
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| 11:59.37 | poisond | Leoneof: actually that is all the information you need. If you use a proper DM like KDM/lxdm/... you don't even need an .xinitrc, assuming all is in the proper path they use the .desktop file and you can just select the KDE session |
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| 12:41.20 | frikinz | I'm using debian package from experimental but there are still a few things from 4.8 |
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| 12:43.06 | annma | frikinz: ask in Debian kde channel |
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| 12:43.37 | frikinz | was not a question, more linked to what Leoneof was saying |
| 12:43.46 | annma | oh OK |
| 12:43.49 | frikinz | 4.10 packages are working |
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| 12:44.06 | frikinz | with some bits from 4.8 :D |
| 12:44.13 | annma | he built KDE himself |
| 12:45.22 | frikinz | I have this network-manager popup telling me "network manager disabled" yet it is running. just can't get to configure it. |
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| 13:15.55 | Jeje_ | Hi |
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| 13:19.36 | Userr | my cam is working with cheese but not kamoso |
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| 13:35.24 | Jeje_ | I have an idea, would add the option to download KDE KDE theme - as it is for Plasma |
| 13:36.45 | Jeje_ | I would add only one button |
| 13:36.56 | Userr | damn trols |
| 13:37.45 | Jeje_ | missing the option, and oxygen is nasty. |
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| 14:24.33 | zorael | when I raise or lower my laptop screen brightness the BIOS changes it accordingly, *but* the global shortcut KDED also kicks in, catches the keypress and redundantly changes it as well [Arch, 4.10.2] |
| 14:25.33 | zorael | as such I only have half the number of steps of brightness, and it seems to cause some strange race at times very reminiscent of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal-info/+bug/415023 |
| 14:26.06 | zorael | if I disable the Increase/Decrease Screen Brightness hotkey this stops, but then I lose the OSD feedback |
| 14:26.34 | zorael | Is there some rc to modify to have it just catch the keypress and not act on it? |
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| 14:27.07 | zorael | (I can't find any obvious GUI setting for it) |
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| 14:34.29 | Gibba | rdieter: I noticed over the weekend that you've done the last few updates to the lensfun package. Just wanted to mention that I've just submitted my first package review, it's for gimplensfun, which allows you to use lensfun from within gimp. |
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| 14:35.48 | Gibba | zorael: which laptop model? Some of the newer Lenovo laptops, for example, are a real pain for brightness at the moment. |
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| 14:36.16 | rdieter | Gibba: cool, thanks |
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| 14:36.48 | Gibba | rdieter: don't suppose you're a packaging sponsor? ;-) |
| 14:37.35 | zorael | Gibba: Dell Latitude E6520, some ten months old now. I don't *think* it did this when I ran the proprietary nvidia drivers, but now that I'm running intel it certainly does. |
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| 14:38.47 | Gibba | zorael: hmm, I don't know so much about the Dells but it seems to me you only really want brightness changed in hardware or in software, not both? |
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| 14:39.54 | zorael | Gibba: Well, yes. :3 I can't disable it in hardware, so I'd prefer it if software reacted to it by displaying the OSD, but left the actual brightness change to hardware |
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| 14:40.25 | rdieter | Gibba: yes I am, feel free to send me the review bug # |
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| 14:41.07 | Gibba | rdieter: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=951496 |
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| 14:46.30 | Gibba | zorael: take a look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Backlight, it gives a few options around backlight settings you can set at boot time. I add acpi_backlight=vendor to my grub.cfg |
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| 14:51.54 | zorael | Gibba: Should I do this even if backlight works fine otherwise? In a tty everything works as expected, but in X and KDE the power management kded just... tries to help when it needn't |
| 14:52.29 | Gibba | zorael: I'm not entirely sure, just suggesting you could experiment with a couple of options to see if they give you the expected behaviour. |
| 14:52.50 | zorael | Gibba: Right y'are. Thanks for the link, I'll poke about |
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| 16:52.32 | spm_Draget | Connect an external screen, configure it and unplug it again. KDE asks nicely if you want to update the config. If you press 'No', you are left with this screen configured *and* a grayed out output in the settings, so you are unable to reconfigure your screen via the GUI (xrandr can fix this issue again). This bug has been around since *always* |
| 16:52.38 | spm_Draget | Does nobody notice this? |
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| 17:09.03 | GreatEmerald | Where does KWrite store syntax highlighting definition files for the different languages? |
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| 17:10.27 | GreatEmerald | There is one language that I want to port to other programs, and getting a list of all its keywords and such would make the job quite a bit easier |
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| 17:29.32 | DaZ | GreatEmerald: it's not really kwrite, since all kwrite does is displaying katepart |
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| 17:29.37 | DaZ | so it's in /usr/share/apps/kateprat :v |
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| 17:29.42 | DaZ | so it's in /usr/share/apps/katepart even |
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| 17:31.23 | GreatEmerald | DaZ: Aha, found it, thanks! |
| 17:31.27 | DaZ | yw |
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| 17:44.55 | Justice | um for some reason pressing chat button on kopete notifications in KDE only removes the button but does nothing else |
| 17:44.58 | Justice | any ideas what may be wrong? |
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| 17:47.46 | cb400f | maybe a broken plasma theme? |
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| 17:49.54 | ZenGuy311 | speakign of kopete .. there was bug that crashed it when my friend sent me a im like two months ago.. it was some ruby code. |
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| 17:51.23 | Justice | cb400f: tried with default oxygen so not sure about that :/ |
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| 17:56.44 | Justice | cb400f: anyway to debug this? |
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| 19:07.06 | marccollin | hi does somebody have duplicate email problem in kmail? |
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| 19:12.13 | rdieter | marccollin: http://bugs.kde.org/318182 ? |
| 19:12.32 | rdieter | if you're using 4.10.2 |
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| 19:13.35 | marccollin | rdieter, not this problem..... |
| 19:13.58 | marccollin | if i move from folder x to y, it's moving in y but a copy stay in x... |
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