IRC log for #kde on 20130423

00:00.04agarwoodThank you Joules
00:00.31*** join/#kde yashshah- (~yash@14.139.122.114)
00:00.54joulesreally?
00:01.41bootkillerlist shows #debian with 1319 users...
00:01.44Artakhamaybe he tried #debian. and not #debian
00:01.48joulesif you are new to linux and your modem usb device is not detected "out of the box" your best bet is to try another distro live CD.
00:01.59agarwoodyes lol, can't see people talking, only connect and disconect
00:02.04Artakhaoh
00:04.18agarwoodah now they start to talk, ok sorry... thank you all !
00:05.34joulesagarwood: some of usb based (gsm, cdma) devices aren't supported.
00:06.44joulesbest to try another distro, too new to linux to learn about the pain that you will soon endure :)
00:08.46*** join/#kde jasonwert (~w3rt@174.sub-70-194-4.myvzw.com)
00:10.19*** join/#kde Pensacola (~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl)
00:10.38*** join/#kde Czarconius (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
00:13.12agarwoodactualy I am using ubuntu 5years now but I want I distro more stableand for stable I saw only debian or slack
00:13.31agarwoodbut after 5 years I stay newbe...
00:15.18*** join/#kde AlexZion (~quassel@187.143.160.32)
00:19.18joules5 years on ubuntu?
00:19.45agarwoodFirst I was on windows and for personal I left windows... after I got computer with licence but I am not using windows because I prefere linux... But I think I use linux like windows...
00:20.42agarwoodI know some thinks on linux but very few
00:21.01agarwoodI know how to install Linux ! hey !
00:22.06agarwoodI like to learn linux but not so much time
00:22.21agarwoodI only learn when problem come
00:23.36joulesits more likely that ubuntu or even fedora would detect this device than debian.
00:24.17joulestry the latest ubuntu liveCD is that doesn't detect it then YSOL.
00:24.49agarwoodI also can't go back to windows, I hate it now... lol I say windows is a prison windows from where you can see tux jumping and enjoy ! lol
00:25.14joulesyes but tux is a little insane too :).
00:25.17Artakhaand boom goes the network
00:26.11Artakhaagarwood, been using linux for.. 8 years now? i'd say that if you want to learn how things tick you could try build an lfs
00:26.27Artakhathough it'll involve tons of compiling :P
00:26.37Artakhabut hey it's compiling an os anyway
00:26.51*** join/#kde maazu (~maazu@120.141.242.219)
00:26.56*** join/#kde w3rt (~w3rt@174.sub-70-194-4.myvzw.com)
00:27.11joulesI'd suggest gentoo over lfs.
00:27.50agarwoodI am using Ubuntu lts 12.04 and no problem for internet, very easy to install...
00:28.00agarwoodwhat is lfs ?
00:28.38joulesagarwood: so ubuntu detected the device? I rest my case.
00:29.08*** join/#kde FL1SK (~quassel@24.117.110.96)
00:29.50agarwoodbut debian kde also detect it but this the softwar I don't understand
00:30.10agarwoodthe softwar break my head
00:30.14*** join/#kde BadMagic (~brad@69.51.117.30)
00:30.14*** join/#kde destrudo_ (~destrudo@tomba.sonic.net)
00:30.14*** join/#kde Tomasu (~Tomasu@tomasu.net)
00:30.14*** join/#kde Phr33d0m (marilyn@gentoo/contributor/phr33d0m)
00:30.14*** join/#kde Sput (~sputnick@quassel/developer/sput)
00:30.14*** join/#kde Dhraakellian (~ntryon@cpe-66-67-45-11.rochester.res.rr.com)
00:30.14*** join/#kde dahlia (~dahlia@ip72-220-224-231.sd.sd.cox.net)
00:30.16agarwoodlol
00:30.59Artakhaagarwood, lfs is a book that guides you to compile a linux operating system from scratch
00:31.08joulesdo you want to debug/troubleshoot/develop or do you just want it to "Just work" ?
00:31.22Artakhagentoo is a distro that has a package manager that builds from scratch afaik
00:31.26agarwoodjust work
00:31.35Artakhawell then i guess debian isn't for you :P
00:31.42joulesagarwood: and is it "just working" ?
00:31.55agarwoodI want the distro most stable as possible
00:32.51joulesYou were having stability issues with ubuntu?
00:33.16agarwoodyes I just need firefox and openoffice that's all
00:33.27joulesI'm not distro fanboi but "stable" gets thrown around alot as some marketing term that means almost nothing.
00:33.44Artakhai don't think ubuntu is particularly unstable o_O
00:33.45joulesagarwood: you wont get firefox with debian.
00:33.59Artakhajoules, to be fair there's iceweasel which is practically the same :P
00:34.00*** join/#kde Taoki (~MirceaKit@93.113.162.37)
00:34.06agarwoodYes Ubuntu is not so stable and also I don't like the way Ubuntu is going to do
00:34.09joulesits not though.
00:34.19*** join/#kde Magiobiwan (IRC@unaffiliated/magiobiwan)
00:34.23Artakhawhat's different aside from branding?
00:34.33Artakhaagarwood, define "not so stable"
00:34.50joulesI don't know something to do with being several versions behind firefox.
00:35.14Artakhawell debian generally is several versions behind everything
00:35.20joules:)
00:35.21agarwoodsome bug somtimes on ubuntu and I have no time for this
00:35.29agarwoodi am very busy lol
00:35.40*** join/#kde lowsfer_ (~yao@14-200-80-115.static.tpgi.com.au)
00:36.09joulesagarwood: at this stage, you don't want debian for the desktop, IMO.
00:36.31agarwoodbut it's ok ubuntu is very stable but sometimes only some problem, me I want 100% no problem lol
00:37.24*** join/#kde phunyguy (~quassel@h184-60-182-132.kgldga.dsl.dynamic.tds.net)
00:37.24*** join/#kde phunyguy (~quassel@unaffiliated/phunyguy)
00:37.51joulesunder keyboard settings how to I set the ctrl as super.
00:38.33Artakhaare we talking about ubuntu or kubuntu here anyway? this is #kde after all P:
00:39.08joulesArtakha: I can has control as super?
00:39.08agarwoodI like just very stable distro, and I am open about it... also I feel Ubuntu changed too much compare to 2007 when I came... no it's look like a commercial distro
00:39.10*** join/#kde juancarlospaco (~quassel@host50.190-139-229.telecom.net.ar)
00:39.11joules:(
00:39.49Artakhaagarwood, kubuntu looks pretty communityish to me *shrug*
00:40.01Artakhajoules, ..?
00:40.25joulesI trying to remap L-CTRL as super.
00:40.57joulesTheres only "Left Ctrl as Meta".
00:41.50Artakhahmm gimme a sec
00:42.45joulesI have an xmodmap setup but have to call it everytime I start KDE, trying to do the same thing under keyboard settings.
00:44.36joulesnvm, I just ran xmodmap, gotta do somw eork now.
00:44.38jouleshehe
00:45.20joulesfirst a little bit of heavy metal and caffeine.
00:46.19*** join/#kde Magiobiwan (IRC@unaffiliated/magiobiwan)
00:50.43maazuchat you later
00:50.43*** part/#kde maazu (~maazu@120.141.242.219)
00:55.16agarwoodre
00:55.45agarwoodsorry
00:56.19agarwoodthank for your help
00:56.43*** join/#kde juanmabc (~juanmabc@79.109.195.199.dyn.user.ono.com)
00:57.28*** join/#kde kiwicam (~quassel@101.98.163.139)
00:57.48*** join/#kde saigkill_ (~sascha@88-134-80-100-dynip.superkabel.de)
01:01.28*** join/#kde hbomb (~hbomb@c-66-41-165-31.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
01:03.28agarwoodah
01:03.32agarwoodoups
01:04.06agarwoodmy problem is i don't know how to setting NetworkManager
01:04.43*** join/#kde serafean (~martin@238.180.broadband3.iol.cz)
01:06.42*** join/#kde sequemis (~enderw@d172-219-119-172.abhsia.telus.net)
01:10.50*** join/#kde Czarconius__ (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
01:16.43*** join/#kde aditsu (~aditsu@183178080020.ctinets.com)
01:17.37aditsuhi, what mpd clients do you use in kde?
01:18.31*** join/#kde privacychain (~privacych@177.192.217.59)
01:21.11*** join/#kde katirzinja (~katirzinj@cpe-74-71-78-146.twcny.res.rr.com)
01:26.07*** join/#kde AS6 (~AS6@24.154.87.209)
01:26.39*** join/#kde fuchs14 (~fuchs24@p5B1311F8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
01:30.43*** join/#kde enderw (~enderw@d172-219-119-172.abhsia.telus.net)
01:34.39*** join/#kde RingtailedFox (~Ringtaile@d24-57-38-211.home.cgocable.net)
01:34.48*** join/#kde ndngvr (~ndngvr@bcaec5e83086.click-network.com)
01:39.22FireBeardrunning Mint/KDE, all the sudden YT audio stopped working
01:39.28FireBeardanybody?
01:39.49*** join/#kde _ponto (~ponto@p5494EEA5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
01:39.50*** join/#kde samxan (~sam@kde/developer/bairagya)
01:40.36*** join/#kde wolftune (~aaron@207.179.110.27)
01:41.32FireBeardHELP
01:42.02FireBeardbig channel, no help
01:43.07FireBeardagain, running Mint with KDE, latest version, all the sudden YT audio stopped working, help?
01:43.33FireBeardI just want to listen to a few nice songs...
01:44.11FireBeard[Mint/KDE/Opera]
01:44.34FireBeardI later tried to install Chrome, same results
01:49.42*** join/#kde altin (~altin@flossk/altin)
01:53.11*** join/#kde at1as (~at1as@h69-128-75-182.wyngmi.dedicated.static.tds.net)
01:56.15*** join/#kde white (~white@af203-167.resnet.stonybrook.edu)
01:58.06*** join/#kde Crendgrim (~quassel@port-92-204-57-7.dynamic.qsc.de)
01:59.14*** join/#kde lars_t_h (~lars_t_h@002128057189.mbb.telenor.dk)
02:00.51*** join/#kde maybeWTF (~cl@p5B162079.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
02:00.59*** join/#kde krabador (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador)
02:07.22*** join/#kde dMaggot (~david@201.227.175.3)
02:07.48*** part/#kde rclancy (~Ryan@rn.ryan-clancy.com)
02:10.30*** join/#kde Czarconius_ (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
02:14.44*** join/#kde AL_Kernell (~wernerml@gateway/tor-sasl/alkernell/x-59861554)
02:20.50*** join/#kde petersaints (~quassel@a89-154-135-231.cpe.netcabo.pt)
02:21.34*** join/#kde dMaggot (~david@201.227.175.3)
02:24.45*** join/#kde tdignan (~quassel@c-76-28-18-77.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
02:24.57erfanianDid you update something recently FireBeard ?
02:25.37*** join/#kde jerryzhou (~jerryzhou@119.52.29.108)
02:27.54DaZFireBeard: tell us about the desktop plx
02:27.56DaZ:3
02:28.37DaZi blame either pulseaudio or gstreamer plugins.
02:29.49*** join/#kde ArGGu^^ (~ArGGu^^@a88-112-164-9.elisa-laajakaista.fi)
02:35.29FireBearderfanian: and DaZ I got an update, and installed it
02:35.32FireBeardnothing more
02:36.07FireBeardit should NOT break all Flash Audio
02:36.12DaZFireBeard: does the audio work at all?
02:36.18DaZyoutube doesn't always use flash.
02:36.32DaZsometimes it's html5.
02:36.41FireBeardaudio works
02:36.46DaZi don't see how it's related to kde btw <:
02:36.57FireBeardand I AM part of their HTML5 test
02:37.15FireBeardI aint no idiot
02:37.40FireBeardit probably isnt
02:37.59FireBeardmost likely  related to Linux in general
02:38.17erfanianso if you open up a terminal and type alsamixer is anything muted?
02:38.28FireBeardgod, I'll be SO happy to stop using linux..
02:38.38FireBeardno
02:38.48FireBeardeverything works, just not my browsers
02:39.04FireBeardI AM listening to music atm
02:39.15FireBeardvia streaming radio
02:39.49FireBeardcompletely no audio would mean me not using this pc at all anymore
02:40.22erfanianWell, you're right, this probably isn't a KDE problem.
02:40.30FireBeardit is still just YT/Flash
02:40.37FireBeardnope, it is not
02:41.03FireBeardit's a Linux problem, and maybe even a problem between the user and the computer
02:41.05FireBeardgheh
02:41.09erfanianTry digging around with these instructions: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Browser_Plugins#Flash_Player:_No_sound
02:41.10FireBeardI know the standards
02:41.21*** join/#kde Ringtailed-Fox (~Ringtaile@d24-57-38-211.home.cgocable.net)
02:41.40erfanianSometimes you have to create a separate audio device manually for flash, or a pre-amp. But Mint should take care of that automatically.
02:41.45FireBeardthanks, but it doesn't matter that much, actually
02:41.54FireBeardI know all the links
02:42.43FireBeardI was hoping for a quick fix, since it used to work the fkrst few days after installing Mint
02:42.46FireBeardis all
02:43.01erfanianOkay, good luck. My money is on the audio stream being muted.
02:43.13FireBeardit is not muted :D
02:43.15FireBeardgheh
02:44.02FireBeardit is just Linux being stupid all of the sudden
02:44.36FireBeardI could fix it, if this were my default pc
02:45.00FireBeardbut it is not, so I only care a little :D
02:50.14*** part/#kde aditsu (~aditsu@183178080020.ctinets.com)
02:55.33*** join/#kde azyr (~quassel@58-97-5-6.static.asianet.co.th)
02:56.40*** join/#kde azyr (~quassel@58-97-5-6.static.asianet.co.th)
02:57.42*** join/#kde sertsa (~sertsa@239.223.118.66.brainstorminternet.net)
02:58.00*** join/#kde azyr (~quassel@58-97-5-6.static.asianet.co.th)
02:58.40*** join/#kde azyr (~quassel@58-97-5-6.static.asianet.co.th)
03:00.52*** join/#kde azyr (~quassel@58-97-5-6.static.asianet.co.th)
03:02.54*** join/#kde azyr (~quassel@58-97-5-6.static.asianet.co.th)
03:03.59*** join/#kde len (~quassel@75-161-175-43.mpls.qwest.net)
03:10.41*** join/#kde Czarconius (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
03:19.43*** join/#kde azyr (~quassel@58-97-5-6.static.asianet.co.th)
03:19.45*** join/#kde rcerny (~rcerny@84-75-21-171.dclient.hispeed.ch)
03:20.13*** join/#kde lowsfer_ (~yao@149.171.146.191)
03:21.08*** part/#kde Dhraakellian (~ntryon@cpe-66-67-45-11.rochester.res.rr.com)
03:23.17*** join/#kde licensed_ (~licensed@177.133.116.135)
03:31.41*** join/#kde thiago (~thiago@kde/thiago)
03:38.02*** join/#kde simion314 (~quassel@109.96.47.81)
03:46.20*** join/#kde liudas (~liudas@unaffiliated/liudas)
03:54.25*** join/#kde yashshah__ (~yash@14.139.122.114)
04:03.48*** join/#kde cogsu (~cogsu@164.67.3.193)
04:03.57*** join/#kde librehat (~librehat@114.222.140.32)
04:05.19*** join/#kde cogsu (~cogsu@164.67.3.193)
04:06.38*** join/#kde privacychain (~privacych@177.192.217.59)
04:07.20*** join/#kde cogsu (~cogsu@164.67.3.193)
04:07.22*** join/#kde miup (~rcerny@84-75-21-171.dclient.hispeed.ch)
04:08.15*** join/#kde cogsu (~cogsu@164.67.3.193)
04:10.48*** join/#kde Czarconius (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
04:12.14*** join/#kde privacychain (~privacych@177.192.217.59)
04:14.16*** join/#kde cogsu (~cogsu@164.67.3.155)
04:16.08*** join/#kde privacychain (~privacych@177.192.217.59)
04:16.33*** join/#kde thatJasonSmith (~vader@ip24-255-246-107.ks.ks.cox.net)
04:19.32*** join/#kde hdevalence (~quassel@d67-193-99-57.home3.cgocable.net)
04:19.35*** join/#kde privacychain (~privacych@177.192.217.59)
04:20.19*** join/#kde Juan (~juan@unaffiliated/juan)
04:25.50*** join/#kde cogsu (~cogsu@2600:1013:b007:85bd:a595:78e3:bd39:b69a)
04:26.30*** join/#kde cogsu (~cogsu@2600:1013:b007:85bd:a595:78e3:bd39:b69a)
04:26.42*** join/#kde boombatower (~boombatow@drupal.org/user/214218/view)
04:29.54*** join/#kde liudas (~liudas@unaffiliated/liudas)
04:30.37*** join/#kde jamil_1 (~quassel@175.110.94.196)
04:34.02*** join/#kde RingtailedFox (~Ringtaile@d24-57-38-211.home.cgocable.net)
04:37.24*** join/#kde cogsu (~cogsu@2600:1013:b007:85bd:a595:78e3:bd39:b69a)
04:44.48*** join/#kde djheroez (~dennis@190.212.81.20)
04:55.22*** join/#kde TrickyRick (~rick@adsl-70-137-6-202.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net)
04:55.31*** join/#kde 92AAAGZFH (~hns@cs181062174.pp.htv.fi)
04:56.49*** join/#kde adrianb (~adrian@86.127.12.231)
04:59.11*** join/#kde k2s (~k2s@chello085216207070.chello.sk)
05:00.06*** join/#kde wolftune (~aaron@207.179.110.27)
05:00.18*** join/#kde sertsa (~sertsa@239.223.118.66.brainstorminternet.net)
05:10.33*** join/#kde Czarconius__ (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
05:24.47*** join/#kde sujith_h (~sujith@115.119.134.194)
05:31.06*** join/#kde hateball (~quassel@unaffiliated/hateball)
05:31.45*** join/#kde rindolf (~Shlomi@bzq-79-177-62-5.red.bezeqint.net)
05:38.09*** join/#kde aboudreault (~aboudreau@osgeo/member/aboudreault)
05:38.50*** join/#kde lufie (~quassel@p5DC5DE9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
05:44.04*** join/#kde licensed (~licensed@177.98.156.153)
05:44.04*** join/#kde licensed (~licensed@unaffiliated/licensed)
05:45.38*** join/#kde el-cuco (~elcuco@bzq-79-180-183-29.red.bezeqint.net)
05:48.11*** join/#kde scott_ (~scott@49.52.47.121)
05:50.07*** join/#kde user (~user@41.100.197.106)
05:50.24*** join/#kde ndngvr (~ndngvr@bcaec5e83086.click-network.com)
05:51.10*** join/#kde petersaints (~quassel@a89-154-135-231.cpe.netcabo.pt)
05:52.14*** join/#kde miup (~rcerny@imap.revamp-it.ch)
05:53.44*** join/#kde paddymahoney (~paddymaho@198-84-186-52.cpe.teksavvy.com)
05:54.53*** join/#kde Kyanayk (~tom@cpe-74-67-109-129.stny.res.rr.com)
05:56.23*** join/#kde Pensacola (~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl)
05:57.41*** join/#kde el-cuco (~elcuco@bzq-79-180-183-29.red.bezeqint.net)
05:58.53*** join/#kde akaWolf (~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf)
06:01.00*** join/#kde petersaints (~quassel@a89-154-135-231.cpe.netcabo.pt)
06:03.09*** join/#kde aboudreault (~aboudreau@osgeo/member/aboudreault)
06:04.26*** join/#kde simanek (~gabor@212.96.38.236)
06:07.53*** join/#kde ndngvr (~ndngvr@bcaec5e83086.click-network.com)
06:08.09*** join/#kde aboudreault (~aboudreau@osgeo/member/aboudreault)
06:08.28*** join/#kde ndngvr (~ndngvr@bcaec5e83086.click-network.com)
06:09.37*** join/#kde zerbp (~quassel@business-178-015-070-106.static.arcor-ip.net)
06:13.20*** join/#kde yashshah (~yash@14.139.122.114)
06:13.22*** join/#kde JackBauer24 (~JackBauer@89-76-72-190.dynamic.chello.pl)
06:14.53*** join/#kde JackBauer24 (~JackBauer@89-76-72-190.dynamic.chello.pl)
06:15.22*** join/#kde sandman66 (~Grayson@p4FC63BF4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
06:16.06*** join/#kde fuchs13 (~quassel@dslb-088-066-041-065.pools.arcor-ip.net)
06:18.34*** join/#kde heraclitus (~heraclitu@unaffiliated/heraclitis)
06:18.39*** join/#kde aboudreault (~aboudreau@osgeo/member/aboudreault)
06:22.26*** join/#kde mycookie (~mycookie@d75-158-135-76.abhsia.telus.net)
06:23.44*** join/#kde drdanz (~quassel@90.147.26.237)
06:27.39*** join/#kde aboudreault (~aboudreau@osgeo/member/aboudreault)
06:32.40*** join/#kde privacychain (~privacych@177.192.217.59)
06:38.04*** join/#kde BigWig_ (~quassel@c-67-160-127-237.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
06:43.44*** join/#kde privacychain (~privacych@177.192.217.59)
06:48.23*** join/#kde |oop (~pool@c-68-81-109-22.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
06:50.41*** join/#kde navlelo_ (~df@80.203.225.1)
06:52.51*** join/#kde |oop (~pool@c-68-81-109-22.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
06:56.04*** join/#kde BadDesign (~qwe@2001:15c0:66a3:2:7ce7:e170:a43:53b3)
06:56.57*** join/#kde Rokixz (~rokas@hst-252-242.splius.lt)
06:58.47*** join/#kde dvratil (Dan@nat/redhat/x-batktnfqklsmopgx)
06:59.32*** join/#kde alextai (~kvirc@95.35.168.140)
07:01.17*** join/#kde PasNox (~PasNox@beg33-4-78-237-93-55.fbx.proxad.net)
07:03.22*** join/#kde joke (~joke@77-23-47-245-dynip.superkabel.de)
07:03.36Basstard`https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215231
07:04.19*** join/#kde BadDesign_ (~qwe@2001:15c0:66a3:2:7ce7:e170:a43:53b3)
07:05.53*** join/#kde mva (mva@gentoo/contributor/mva)
07:06.04*** join/#kde aheinecke (~quassel@aktaia.intevation.org)
07:08.56*** join/#kde FlameReaper (~assassin@203.106.65.1)
07:09.17*** join/#kde oini (~oini@121.242.111.234)
07:09.19*** join/#kde FlameReaper-PC (~honoo-pc@203.106.65.1)
07:10.23*** join/#kde geomyidae (~geomyidae@pdpc/supporter/professional/geomyidae)
07:13.30*** join/#kde mkyral (mkyral@nat/redhat/x-bounsirzmwxprszr)
07:14.00*** join/#kde omeringen (~loL@85.107.246.37)
07:17.23*** join/#kde el-cuco (~elcuco@bzq-79-180-183-29.red.bezeqint.net)
07:18.45azyri cant create kde identity, i never got the email after filling the registration form
07:19.46valorieazyr: please ask in #kde-sysadmin
07:19.55valorieand check your trash folder, etc.
07:19.55azyrok, thanks
07:22.14*** join/#kde hacosta (~hacosta@166.78.2.133)
07:23.56BigWig_I figured it out!
07:24.05BigWig_Well, someone in #debian helped me
07:25.55valoriecool, what was it?
07:26.33BigWig_I don't know. I just ran this magical command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
07:26.51valorienice
07:27.29valoriethat takes you back to the the original selection during install, I think
07:28.14*** join/#kde tetris4 (~quassel@213-164-14.netrunp.cytanet.com.cy)
07:28.26*** join/#kde niqt (~nicola@2-228-80-129.ip190.fastwebnet.it)
07:31.23*** join/#kde alextai (~kvirc@95.35.168.140)
07:31.42*** join/#kde guillom (~guillaume@114.192.24.109.rev.sfr.net)
07:31.42*** join/#kde guillom (~guillaume@wikimedia/guillom)
07:31.50*** join/#kde thechef (~testi@adsl-84-226-235-74.adslplus.ch)
07:35.10*** join/#kde plfiorini (~plfiorini@sei.yacme.com)
07:35.52*** join/#kde mokush (~cc@82.208.133.70)
07:35.53thechefI downgraded from KDE 4.10 to KDE 4.8 (because I switched from Kubuntu LTS with Backports to Debian Wheezy) and Ctrl+Alt+L will no longer lock the screen now. I had to reconfigure it recently in order to have it work for the recent version of KDE, and I guess I just need to do the opposite action now, but I don't know the inverse step. Can you help me?
07:37.29*** join/#kde ovidius2 (~quassel@2001:638:708:30df:223:54ff:fe2f:8cd9)
07:39.40*** join/#kde k2s (~k2s@chello085216207070.chello.sk)
07:39.42valoriethe screenlocker is new in 4.10
07:39.54*** join/#kde gdebure (~guillaume@66.143.73.86.rev.sfr.net)
07:40.19*** join/#kde Gibba (gwhite@nat/ibm/x-hvzcuolrnwplyjsw)
07:40.54valorieI don't think Debian has 4.10 yet
07:41.34*** join/#kde Vojtaeus (~vojta@opensuse/member/vojtaeus)
07:41.43thechefvalorie: yes and I had to remove the combination Ctrl+Alt+L from some action in order to activate the default in KDE 4.10 and that default seems to be active still even though I know have KDE 4.8.4. And I forgot which component to reactivate the combination on now.
07:42.21valorieI have no clue, sorry
07:42.51thechefvalorie: Any chance to reset ALL global hotkey settings?
07:43.02*** join/#kde CosmicB (~quassel@home.kulturit.no)
07:43.45valoriethat's in systemsettings
07:44.26thechefah right
07:45.11thechefBut it doesn't solve the problem - How would I set the combination pre-KDE 4.10?
07:46.20valoriethat I don't know
07:46.26thechefI'm not quite sure if the entry I have in "session manager" is now just an orphaned entry
07:48.07valoriethechef: what was your reasoning for downgrading?
07:48.40thechefvalorie: side effect of switching to debian (and affinity to feature-frozenness)
07:48.44valoriethat is usually not encouraged
07:48.57valorieany reason you didn't do a fresh install?
07:49.01thechefvalorie: I guess so, I won't do it again
07:49.15valoriethat's what I would suggest
07:49.31valorieI'll bet you have some mess of config files and such
07:49.35*** join/#kde jgrulich (~jgrulich@89-24-18-192.i4g.tmcz.cz)
07:49.36thechefvalorie: because troubleshooting is still below in the amount of expected effort than reconfiguring everything.
07:50.15thechefthis screen locker thing is actually the last
07:50.23valoriewell, there are a few debian folks here; let's hope they see this discussion
07:50.25*** join/#kde niqt (~nicola@2-228-80-129.ip190.fastwebnet.it)
07:50.33*** join/#kde librehat (~librehat@114.222.140.32)
07:50.48*** join/#kde geomyidae (~geomyidae@pdpc/supporter/professional/geomyidae)
07:51.50*** join/#kde BadDesign (~qwe@2001:15c0:66a3:2:7ce7:e170:a43:53b3)
07:51.50*** join/#kde BadDesign (~qwe@unaffiliated/baddesign)
07:54.25*** join/#kde jgrulich_ (~jgrulich@89-24-22-32.i4g.tmcz.cz)
07:54.29*** join/#kde AndreiDuma (~duma@p16.eregie.pub.ro)
07:56.24*** join/#kde zvx10 (~quassel@109.188.125.29)
07:57.37*** join/#kde rindolf (~Shlomi@bzq-79-177-62-5.red.bezeqint.net)
07:58.01*** join/#kde CosmicB (~quassel@home.kulturit.no)
07:58.14*** join/#kde saabzero (~quassel@178-191-195-107.adsl.highway.telekom.at)
08:00.21*** part/#kde yaccin (~quassel@fornax.uberspace.de)
08:00.49*** join/#kde yashshah_ (~yash@14.139.122.114)
08:01.38*** join/#kde rindolf (~Shlomi@bzq-79-177-62-5.red.bezeqint.net)
08:02.57*** join/#kde FlameReaper-PC (~honoo-pc@203.106.65.1)
08:04.05*** join/#kde FReaper (~assassin@203.106.65.1)
08:04.24*** join/#kde azyr (~quassel@58-97-5-6.static.asianet.co.th)
08:04.41*** join/#kde movciari_ (movciari@nat/redhat/x-ynapjqqxkvqljfpx)
08:05.10*** join/#kde geomyidae (~geomyidae@pdpc/supporter/professional/geomyidae)
08:05.38*** join/#kde rindolf (~Shlomi@bzq-79-177-62-5.red.bezeqint.net)
08:06.08*** join/#kde yashshah_ (~yash@14.139.122.114)
08:06.13*** join/#kde piclours (~phquelen@89.157.204.35)
08:07.55*** join/#kde howlymowly (~quassel@euler.fb12.tu-berlin.de)
08:08.07*** join/#kde [Enrico] (~chiccoroc@gentoo/contributor/Enrico)
08:14.30*** join/#kde tdignan (~quassel@c-76-28-18-77.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
08:16.09*** join/#kde rindolf (~Shlomi@bzq-79-177-62-5.red.bezeqint.net)
08:21.35*** join/#kde thechef (~testi@adsl-84-226-235-74.adslplus.ch)
08:23.20*** join/#kde FReaper (~assassin@203.106.65.1)
08:25.36*** join/#kde Sho_ (~sho@kde/hein)
08:26.07*** join/#kde jreznik (jreznik@nat/redhat/x-lhweepbvpekysffz)
08:28.09*** join/#kde zaki[] (~guest@79.172.160.115)
08:31.29*** join/#kde fixl (~fixl@110-174-167-204.static.tpgi.com.au)
08:32.40*** join/#kde rindolf (~Shlomi@bzq-79-177-62-5.red.bezeqint.net)
08:33.06*** join/#kde sungami (~sungami@unaffiliated/sungami)
08:34.37*** join/#kde Two_Dogs (~quassel@c-67-183-10-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
08:35.16*** join/#kde librehat (~librehat@114.222.140.32)
08:38.03*** join/#kde lnxslck (~lnxslck@194.65.138.120)
08:39.15*** join/#kde mkyral (mkyral@nat/redhat/x-nqfquocjsveuitdy)
08:42.25*** join/#kde admiral0 (83af1c82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.175.28.130)
08:43.51admiral0hello
08:44.10admiral0what is the correct mailing list to submit a gsoc proposal
08:44.20admiral0for an initial review?
08:45.35admiral0oh, nvm found it -.-
08:46.28*** join/#kde fuchs13 (~quassel@dslb-088-066-041-065.pools.arcor-ip.net)
08:47.09*** join/#kde boom1992 (~quassel@BA1222.ballee.wh.tu-darmstadt.de)
08:49.01*** join/#kde _RadioHead (~slack@46.19.224.252)
08:50.41*** join/#kde FReaper (~assassin@203.106.65.1)
08:53.47*** join/#kde boris64 (~boris64@a89-182-7-66.net-htp.de)
08:56.24*** join/#kde markand (~markand@ks29947.kimsufi.com)
08:56.24*** join/#kde markand (~markand@unaffiliated/markand)
08:58.58*** join/#kde Green-Tea (~tea@178.127.186.5)
08:59.42*** join/#kde Pensacola (~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl)
09:00.03*** join/#kde tosky (tosky@nat/redhat/x-upandicylxpnueea)
09:00.47*** join/#kde b0stik (~bostik@213-209-160-195.ip.skylogicnet.com)
09:02.15*** join/#kde movciari__ (movciari@nat/redhat/x-zjjqhrvyvvoqgwzk)
09:02.56*** join/#kde lkrejci (~lkrejci@ip-89-177-164-63.net.upcbroadband.cz)
09:02.57*** join/#kde lkrejci (~lkrejci@redhat/jboss/lkrejci)
09:05.37*** join/#kde jgrulich_ (~jgrulich@89-24-15-192.i4g.tmcz.cz)
09:06.38*** join/#kde kshitij (~kshitij@117.227.187.12)
09:09.04Taoki|awayHey everyone. I read about a feature in the 4.10.1 release which supposedly lets you scale plasmoids to any size, even if it breaks their proportions. I badly need this, since most plasmoids I use have huge and pointless size limits on them. But it doesn't work automatically for me. Anyone know how to enable it?
09:10.13*** join/#kde renards (~fox@90.84.144.178)
09:10.50*** join/#kde shumski (~shumski@cpe-188-252-134-134.zg5.cable.xnet.hr)
09:11.42lnxslckTaoki, not really
09:11.52*** join/#kde tetris4 (~quassel@213-164-14.netrunp.cytanet.com.cy)
09:13.47Taokilnxslck: The feature is there though, right? It was on the official KDE nodes that I read it
09:14.20lnxslckTaoki, i suppose so
09:14.31lnxslcki don't use plasmoids that much
09:15.09*** join/#kde TuxCM (~H_Merijn@46.144.236.233)
09:15.55TuxCMmy opensuse update this morning upped to kde-4.10.2, and now networkmanager doesn't connect to wired anymore. wireless still ok
09:16.29lnxslckTuxCM, are you sure that's a kde issue? and not some problem with your ethernet?
09:16.55TuxCMno change to the network since yesterday, when it all worked fine
09:17.25TuxCMI am not 100% sure, but if it is a known problem, this is probably the best place to ask
09:18.10TaokiTuxCM: I don't have that problem, but that really sucks. Am always worried major updates can cause that sort of thing
09:18.35TaokiTuxCM: I recommend opening the Network Manager's configuration menu, going to the network card, and checking its properties. There has to be a reason why it won't work there
09:18.58TaokiLike maybe a card setting got unchecked, or a bad IP got permanently stored, or a bad DNS server or mask or who knows what
09:19.40TuxCMhttp://paste.kde.org/730370/
09:20.38*** join/#kde gdebure (~guillaume@2a02-8420-6742-bf00-0223-14ff-fe4d-0790.rev.sfr.net)
09:20.45TaokiSadly I don't know much and how to interpret that. Just check all card settings closely
09:21.42TaokiTuxCM: If nothing works at all, then TEMPORARILY remove ~/.kde and ~/.kde4 (rename them or move them somewhere else) and see if it's fixed with a fresh config. If a fresh config works, identify where the issue is in the current config, or if you have the time and patience re-configure your desktop from scratch and dump the old one
09:22.09TuxCMno time and patience for that :)
09:22.24Taokiok. Still check if it works with a new config though
09:22.44TaokiAnd play with all network manager and network card settings
09:22.50*** join/#kde Green-Tea (~tea@178.127.176.13)
09:23.09*** part/#kde Green-Tea (~tea@178.127.176.13)
09:23.43*** join/#kde gdebure (~guillaume@2a02-8420-6742-bf00-0223-14ff-fe4d-0790.rev.sfr.net)
09:25.13*** join/#kde suy (~quassel@236.Red-83-57-248.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net)
09:26.16*** join/#kde azyr (~quassel@58-97-5-6.static.asianet.co.th)
09:27.57*** join/#kde saigkill_ (~sascha@88-134-80-100-dynip.superkabel.de)
09:28.57*** join/#kde zvx10 (~quassel@109.188.125.236)
09:30.17*** join/#kde shumski| (~shumski@cpe-109-60-94-27.zg3.cable.xnet.hr)
09:32.12*** join/#kde Smile30 (~ruisilva@a85-139-249-178.static.cpe.netcabo.pt)
09:33.46*** join/#kde kaos (~kaos@217-208-17-190-no174.tbcn.telia.com)
09:34.42*** join/#kde el-cuco (~elcuco@bzq-79-180-183-29.red.bezeqint.net)
09:44.47TuxCMDHCB on wired is busted. adding a manual wired connection works fine
09:44.57TuxCMdhcp on wireless also works fine
09:45.10*** join/#kde simanek (~gabor@212.96.38.236)
09:45.14TuxCM(I deleted the card and added it back to make sure)
09:45.30TuxCMlocal network here is IPv4 only
09:50.34*** join/#kde saigkill_ (~sascha@88-134-80-100-dynip.superkabel.de)
09:51.29*** join/#kde google01103 (~smiley@pool-96-240-231-115.spfdma.east.verizon.net)
09:54.36*** join/#kde WinstonSmith (~WinstonSm@unaffiliated/winstonsmith)
09:55.28*** join/#kde R_Rios (~croc@hyadesinc/pub/oa)
09:55.54*** join/#kde librehat (~librehat@114.222.140.32)
09:56.02*** join/#kde arkascha (~arkascha@e176161236.adsl.alicedsl.de)
10:01.44*** join/#kde daimonion (~daimonion@adsl-165-202-118.teol.net)
10:08.59*** join/#kde juanmabc (~juanmabc@79.109.195.199.dyn.user.ono.com)
10:15.54*** join/#kde palasso (~palasso@palassopoulosge.ath.forthnet.gr)
10:18.13*** join/#kde mradot (~root@cpe-70-95-189-182.hawaii.res.rr.com)
10:20.53*** join/#kde ArGGu^^ (~ArGGu^^@a88-112-164-9.elisa-laajakaista.fi)
10:21.21*** join/#kde machaku (~emilli@197.152.8.223)
10:21.33*** part/#kde machaku (~emilli@197.152.8.223)
10:22.45*** join/#kde ximion (~ximion@pptp-212-201-75-99.pptp.stw-bonn.de)
10:24.56*** join/#kde flami (~quassel@HSI-KBW-085-216-048-067.hsi.kabelbw.de)
10:28.18*** join/#kde piclours (~phquelen@brc29-2-88-162-36-66.fbx.proxad.net)
10:35.57*** join/#kde pschiffe (pschiffe@nat/redhat/x-ughwvbttsqrfrbrs)
10:38.07*** join/#kde mck182 (~mck182@91.232.85.46)
10:38.08*** join/#kde mck182 (~mck182@kde/developer/mklapetek)
10:38.28*** join/#kde bascht1 (~bascht@bascht.com)
10:38.41*** join/#kde serafean (~martin@2001:718:7:204:21e:64ff:fe3c:c866)
10:43.32bascht1Hi around.
10:43.49bascht1Quick question, as I cannot find it in the config apps.
10:44.22bascht1Is it possible to configure "focus follows mouse" to move the mouse pointer automatically to new windows?
10:45.47*** join/#kde jehan (~jehan@kiel4-dmz.gis.de)
10:53.22*** join/#kde lowsfer (~yao@14-200-80-115.static.tpgi.com.au)
10:53.38*** join/#kde lewellyn (U2FsdGVkX1@greenviolet/lewellyn)
10:56.14*** join/#kde Malsasa (~Malsasa@114.79.57.189)
10:56.15*** join/#kde jehan (~jehan@kiel4-dmz.gis.de)
10:56.55*** join/#kde devajmitra (~quassel@117.223.99.147)
10:57.00*** join/#kde Zeppman (~quassel@vpn1-79.tu-graz.ac.at)
10:59.04*** join/#kde saLOUt (~rriemann@93.121.218.53)
11:00.53*** join/#kde zue (51c21b9c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.194.27.156)
11:01.46zuesometimes my volume is stuck like that, with the bar in the middle of my screen: http://i.imgur.com/JqnT6Co.png how can i fix that?
11:02.10zuei'm using kde 4.10.2 on kubuntu 12.10
11:03.17*** join/#kde miup (~rcerny@imap.revamp-it.ch)
11:04.16*** join/#kde Cymew (~user@fw01d.snowmen.se)
11:04.40*** join/#kde leandrosansilva (~quassel@201.86.94.254)
11:05.39*** join/#kde juanmabc (~juanmabc@79.109.195.199.dyn.user.ono.com)
11:07.11*** join/#kde Spiffyman (~quassel@p3015-ipbf2503funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp)
11:07.12*** join/#kde |oop (~pool@c-68-81-109-22.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
11:07.43*** join/#kde buscher (~buscher@konversation/developer/buscher)
11:11.20*** join/#kde Pensacola (~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl)
11:12.47*** join/#kde boris64 (~boris64@a89-182-7-66.net-htp.de)
11:15.11*** part/#kde TuxCM (~H_Merijn@46.144.236.233)
11:15.53*** join/#kde Artakha (~artakha@f6.ip1.netikka.fi)
11:16.02*** join/#kde el-cuco (~elcuco@bzq-79-180-183-29.red.bezeqint.net)
11:16.59*** join/#kde jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs)
11:17.23*** part/#kde jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs)
11:17.52*** join/#kde zvx10 (~quassel@109.188.125.57)
11:23.12*** join/#kde Walzmyn (~quassel@h47.6.30.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net)
11:23.14*** join/#kde nkoc (~nkoc@wprt-5d836087.pool.mediaWays.net)
11:23.25*** join/#kde yofel (~quassel@ubuntu/member/yofel)
11:25.14*** join/#kde vHanda (~quassel@209.141.56.178)
11:25.15*** join/#kde vHanda (~quassel@kde/vhanda)
11:25.38*** join/#kde wickeddoc (~wickeddoc@kratos.vo.lu)
11:27.24*** join/#kde alextai (~kvirc@95.35.168.140)
11:29.38*** join/#kde lkrejci (~lkrejci@redhat/jboss/lkrejci)
11:33.27*** join/#kde saigkill (~sascha@piratenpartei/rp/saigkill)
11:33.50*** join/#kde voondo (~quassel@gra21-2-82-225-169-12.fbx.proxad.net)
11:33.52*** join/#kde devajmitra_ (~quassel@117.223.107.50)
11:36.55*** join/#kde Malsasa (~Malsasa@114.79.60.159)
11:37.19*** join/#kde mbriza (mbriza@nat/redhat/x-lzkzdcfohrmgxixk)
11:37.38*** join/#kde fuchs13 (~quassel@dslb-088-066-041-065.pools.arcor-ip.net)
11:39.54*** join/#kde joeycrepps (~joeycrepp@ip-149.net-81-220-152.grenoble.rev.numericable.fr)
11:42.21*** join/#kde mbriza (mbriza@nat/redhat/x-imjlckitlnififkm)
11:47.27*** join/#kde RamchandraApte (~quassel@122.167.220.162)
11:47.28*** join/#kde crazydude101 (~quassel@122.167.220.162)
11:48.34*** join/#kde RamchandraApte (~quassel@122.167.220.162)
11:49.10*** join/#kde devajmitra (~quassel@117.223.107.50)
11:52.21*** join/#kde fuchs13 (~quassel@dslb-088-066-041-065.pools.arcor-ip.net)
11:55.49*** join/#kde hbomb (~hbomb@c-66-41-165-31.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
11:58.17*** part/#kde kaos (~kaos@217-208-17-190-no174.tbcn.telia.com)
12:01.56*** join/#kde jreznik (jreznik@nat/redhat/x-fpwdgjjgbchhsrdh)
12:04.45*** join/#kde mbriza (mbriza@nat/redhat/x-hxmpafwogsiqldzi)
12:04.46*** join/#kde fuchs13 (~quassel@dslb-088-066-041-065.pools.arcor-ip.net)
12:05.51*** join/#kde Pensacola (~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl)
12:06.44*** join/#kde Kernel|Panic (~kvirc@unaffiliated/wolfbyte)
12:10.37*** join/#kde chasmo (~chas@35.222-62-69.ftth.swbr.surewest.net)
12:10.39*** join/#kde lkrejci (~lkrejci@ip-89-177-164-63.net.upcbroadband.cz)
12:10.40*** join/#kde lkrejci (~lkrejci@redhat/jboss/lkrejci)
12:11.15*** join/#kde altin (~altin@170.185.233.107)
12:11.15*** join/#kde altin (~altin@flossk/altin)
12:12.37*** join/#kde omeringen (~loL@85.107.246.37)
12:17.22*** join/#kde stimpy267 (~matias@77.105.102.128)
12:18.32*** join/#kde phorsyon (~phorsyon@p4FC2F84C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
12:19.43*** join/#kde serafean (~martin@2001:718:7:204:21e:64ff:fe3c:c866)
12:21.17*** join/#kde serafean (~martin@2001:718:7:204:21e:64ff:fe3c:c866)
12:21.30*** join/#kde tom94 (~tom@212-139-96-240.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
12:23.18*** join/#kde saabzero (~quassel@vpn2-110.tu-graz.ac.at)
12:24.00*** join/#kde JLGSHK (~root@186.120.214.237)
12:24.27JLGSHKhello  guyz
12:25.01mradothello
12:25.40*** join/#kde ChaoFeng (~chaos@123.155.76.101)
12:25.54JLGSHKhow are you mradot
12:26.16*** join/#kde erfanian (~eric@c-75-73-54-203.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
12:27.00JLGSHKhow distro It's good ubuntu or  fedora
12:28.14mradotJLGSHK: i use slackware
12:28.25mradoti don't actually use kde :P
12:28.33mradotbtw
12:28.44mradoti don't use any d
12:28.45mradote\
12:28.54JLGSHKwhy don't use kde
12:28.56JLGSHK?
12:30.30mradoti use ratpoison wm
12:30.43mradotkde is my de of chose though
12:34.56*** join/#kde BadDesign (~qwe@2001:15c0:66a3:2:7ce7:e170:a43:53b3)
12:34.56*** join/#kde BadDesign (~qwe@unaffiliated/baddesign)
12:35.38*** join/#kde altin (~altin@flossk/altin)
12:35.41*** join/#kde Malsasa (~Malsasa@114.79.59.183)
12:39.08*** part/#kde MaNI (~MaNI@196-209-243-217.dynamic.isadsl.co.za)
12:39.29*** join/#kde devajmitra (~quassel@117.223.107.50)
12:40.08*** join/#kde rdieter (~rdieter@fedora/rdieter)
12:40.32*** join/#kde striker|rh (striker@nat/redhat/x-sgqcigwwkotbfqtq)
12:41.22*** join/#kde isaque (~isaque@177.83.123.16)
12:42.05*** join/#kde jgrulich (~jgrulich@89-24-17-192.i4g.tmcz.cz)
12:42.44*** join/#kde caravel (~caravel@83.230.147.44)
12:42.46*** join/#kde erfanian (~eric@c-75-73-54-203.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
12:43.08*** join/#kde stollenga (~stollenga@macj.idsia.ch)
12:43.29*** part/#kde stollenga (~stollenga@macj.idsia.ch)
12:45.59*** join/#kde trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com)
12:46.06*** join/#kde saabzero (~quassel@vpn2-110.tu-graz.ac.at)
12:49.26*** join/#kde hcc23 (~hcc@uavrf.ae.gatech.edu)
12:50.05*** join/#kde dkpi (~maxime@mla78-1-82-240-16-5.fbx.proxad.net)
12:50.57drdanzhi, the screen locker is stuck and don't prompt for the password anymore... is there a way to kill it?
12:51.31*** join/#kde oini_ (~oini@121.242.111.234)
12:51.36*** join/#kde svuorela (~svuorela@ssh.killmulehill.net)
12:51.36*** join/#kde svuorela (~svuorela@kde/sune)
12:52.44*** join/#kde arkascha (~arkascha@e176161236.adsl.alicedsl.de)
12:53.20*** join/#kde saabzero_ (~quassel@vpn1-190.tu-graz.ac.at)
12:53.23*** join/#kde JoeSomebody (~JoeSomebo@unaffiliated/joesomebody)
12:53.58*** join/#kde Noughmad (~miha@BSN-61-19-50.dial-up.dsl.siol.net)
12:54.28*** part/#kde lewellyn (U2FsdGVkX1@greenviolet/lewellyn)
12:54.46drdanz(note that I can move the mouse, use ctrl+alt+Fn to get a shell, but I can't unlock the screen
12:55.54rdieterdrdanz: what version if kde?
12:55.57*** join/#kde oini__ (~oini@121.242.111.234)
12:56.03drdanzrdieter: 4.10.2
12:56.42rdieterscreenlocker is part of ksmserver now, so ... you might be screwed (killing ksmserver will probably end your session)
12:57.00*** join/#kde shumski (~shumski@cpe-109-60-94-27.zg3.cable.xnet.hr)
12:58.15*** join/#kde rajatkapoor (73f88294@gateway/web/freenode/ip.115.248.130.148)
12:58.17*** join/#kde BadDesign (~qwe@2001:15c0:66a3:2:7ce7:e170:a43:53b3)
12:58.17*** join/#kde BadDesign (~qwe@unaffiliated/baddesign)
12:58.25*** part/#kde rajatkapoor (73f88294@gateway/web/freenode/ip.115.248.130.148)
12:59.04drdanzrdieter: good to know... thanks anyway
12:59.50*** join/#kde yashshah (~yash@14.139.122.114)
12:59.52*** join/#kde niqt (~nicola@2-228-80-129.ip190.fastwebnet.it)
13:00.52*** join/#kde ivanich__ (~ivanich@2001:470:1f09:1e0f::7)
13:01.23*** join/#kde el-cuco (~elcuco@bzq-79-180-183-29.red.bezeqint.net)
13:02.10drdanzrdieter: by the way ksmserver is taking 44% of my cpu
13:02.20drdanzis it normal?
13:02.38rdieterclearly not.  probably another symptom of why the screenlocker isn't working for you
13:03.58*** join/#kde mfraz74 (~quassel@2.30.153.87)
13:05.11*** join/#kde MarcWeber (~marc@mawercer.de)
13:05.35MarcWebermy distro is missing the experimental color correction feature. Does it happen that you know which source package I might be missing?
13:07.04rdieterMarcWeber: this? http://dantti.wordpress.com/2012/04/03/colord-kde-0-2-released/
13:07.05*** join/#kde jreznik_ (jreznik@nat/redhat/x-xfhsrfmljuzopuob)
13:07.39MarcWeberI don't know whether that is color-kde - or whether that's another solution. THa's why I asked here :)
13:09.12MarcWeberrdieter: http://userbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Color_Management#How_to_enable_color_correction_in_KDE Would you mind having a look at your settings to see whether you have this check box? And if so check whether your system has colord-kde installed?
13:09.14*** join/#kde ivanich__ (~ivanich@onapp-LT-97-154.tenet.odessa.ua)
13:09.40rdieterI do not have it installed
13:09.59rdieterbut I could install it to test, sec.
13:10.25MarcWeberOh - thanks
13:10.38rdieterMarcWeber: I have the checkbox, without it being installed (yet)
13:11.02MarcWeberrdieter: THen you don't have to install it.
13:11.10MarcWeberThere are many ways to manage the color of your display.
13:11.19MarcWeberMaybe there are two different solutions.
13:12.21rdieterMarcWeber: reading more, indeed.  that wiki references oyranos, something different than colord
13:13.03*** join/#kde saabzero (~quassel@vpn2-55.tu-graz.ac.at)
13:13.31*** join/#kde Walzmyn (~quassel@h47.6.30.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net)
13:17.37*** join/#kde R_Rios (~croc@hyadesinc/pub/oa)
13:19.15*** join/#kde kurthindenburg_ (~kurthinde@c-98-226-137-166.hsd1.in.comcast.net)
13:19.20*** join/#kde devajmitra (~quassel@117.223.107.50)
13:21.36*** join/#kde ivanich__ (~ivanich@onapp-LT-97-154.tenet.odessa.ua)
13:23.09*** join/#kde LeeJunFan (~junfan@97-83-113-254.static.trcy.mi.charter.com)
13:26.14*** join/#kde mindCrime_ (~prhodes@12.198.68.2)
13:26.41*** join/#kde aernhart_ (aernhart@nat/ibm/x-byiiwxbfkdxynzjo)
13:27.03*** join/#kde oini (~oini@121.242.111.234)
13:29.10*** join/#kde _rd (~rd@p57B4BE15.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
13:32.59*** join/#kde oini (~oini@121.242.111.234)
13:34.57*** join/#kde konelix_ (~konelix@190.143.206.180)
13:36.18*** join/#kde Th3R0b (~bobby@e920.ip13.netikka.fi)
13:36.28*** join/#kde ZZzzimba (~quassel@91.205.53.2)
13:39.19*** join/#kde jayrulez (~jayrulez@72.252.159.112)
13:39.21*** join/#kde MarkRS (~MarkRS@2001:8b0:6481:a9c7:230:18ff:fe00:1)
13:39.51*** part/#kde MarkRS (~MarkRS@2001:8b0:6481:a9c7:230:18ff:fe00:1)
13:47.17*** join/#kde Malsasa (~Malsasa@114.79.62.183)
13:48.09*** join/#kde devajmitra (~quassel@117.223.107.50)
13:50.39*** join/#kde Folco (~folco@ANantes-654-1-153-239.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr)
13:50.59*** join/#kde wolftune (~aaron@207.179.110.27)
13:52.30*** join/#kde zappy (~zuppy@xdsl-92-252-86-169.dip.osnanet.de)
13:55.41drdanzrdieter: fyi I restarted the session, and it happened again! :( I'll try rebooting this time
13:56.02rdieterdrdanz: anything interesting in ~/.xsession-errors ?
13:56.52BluesKajHi all
13:57.06*** join/#kde librehat (~librehat@114.222.140.32)
13:58.11*** join/#kde konelix_ (~konelix@190.143.252.87)
14:00.30drdanzrdieter: nope :(
14:01.59*** join/#kde serafean (~martin@2001:718:7:204:21e:64ff:fe3c:c866)
14:02.06*** join/#kde devajmitra (~quassel@117.223.107.50)
14:02.49*** join/#kde gdebure (~guillaume@66.143.73.86.rev.sfr.net)
14:04.35*** join/#kde aracele (~quassel@177.180.97.206)
14:04.43*** join/#kde serafean_ (~martin@e241.eduroam.FSV.CVUT.CZ)
14:05.57*** join/#kde sungami (~sungami@2001:470:9646::10)
14:05.59*** join/#kde sungami (~sungami@unaffiliated/sungami)
14:07.32*** join/#kde K00pi3[9] (~K00pi39]@62-165-248-187.pool.digikabel.hu)
14:10.09*** join/#kde Serafean (~martin@e-76-203.eduroam.fit.cvut.cz)
14:11.12*** join/#kde oini (~oini@121.242.111.234)
14:14.41*** join/#kde renards (~fox@90.84.144.99)
14:15.18*** join/#kde heraclitus (~heraclitu@unaffiliated/heraclitis)
14:16.19*** join/#kde floe (~flo@e179004114.adsl.alicedsl.de)
14:16.19*** join/#kde machaku (~emilli@197.152.8.223)
14:16.30*** part/#kde machaku (~emilli@197.152.8.223)
14:17.34*** join/#kde Noughmad (~miha@BSN-61-16-98.dial-up.dsl.siol.net)
14:19.47*** join/#kde chunkyhead (~chunkyhea@triband-mum-120.62.180.3.mtnl.net.in)
14:20.01chunkyheadhow to install kde 4.10.2 on ubuntu 12.04?
14:20.05*** join/#kde librehat (~librehat@114.222.140.32)
14:21.27*** join/#kde iBelieve (~mspencer@107-207-126-139.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net)
14:22.17*** join/#kde joey18 (~joey@ip-159.net-81-220-152.grenoble.rev.numericable.fr)
14:25.28*** join/#kde paras1to (~dk@dsl-aaut77.dyn.edudsl.gr)
14:25.59*** join/#kde librehat (~librehat@114.222.140.32)
14:26.32*** join/#kde kbana (~quassel@p549228D3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
14:26.37*** join/#kde BadDesign (~qwe@unaffiliated/baddesign)
14:26.45*** join/#kde ulgens (~ulgens@88.234.171.119)
14:28.01*** part/#kde ulgens (~ulgens@88.234.171.119)
14:29.30*** join/#kde devajmitra (~quassel@117.223.107.50)
14:37.58*** join/#kde fuchs13 (~quassel@dslb-088-066-041-065.pools.arcor-ip.net)
14:38.33*** join/#kde sandman667 (~Grayson@p4FC63BF4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
14:38.36*** join/#kde amingv (~amin@190.166.36.25)
14:38.49*** join/#kde hbomb (~hbomb@c-66-41-165-31.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
14:40.12rdieterchunkyhead: from topic in #kubuntu , http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.10
14:40.28*** join/#kde salamanderrake (~salamande@cpe-71-74-245-68.neo.res.rr.com)
14:40.30*** join/#kde jasonwert (~w3rt@75-134-81-98.static.aldl.mi.charter.com)
14:41.11*** join/#kde heraclitus (~heraclitu@cpe-72-181-248-243.tx.res.rr.com)
14:41.11*** join/#kde heraclitus (~heraclitu@unaffiliated/heraclitis)
14:41.32chunkyheadsudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports after this how to install the interface
14:41.37chunkyheadkubuntu interface
14:41.53rdieterchunkyhead: I'd bet #kubuntu would be a great place to ask for more detail. :)
14:41.58*** join/#kde altin (~altin@flossk/altin)
14:42.23chunkyheadthanks
14:42.54*** join/#kde fuchs13 (~quassel@dslb-088-066-041-065.pools.arcor-ip.net)
14:42.59*** join/#kde oini (~oini@121.242.111.234)
14:45.19*** join/#kde fuchs13 (~quassel@dslb-088-066-041-065.pools.arcor-ip.net)
14:45.33*** join/#kde konelix_ (~konelix@190.143.201.132)
14:46.57*** join/#kde fuchs13 (~quassel@dslb-088-066-041-065.pools.arcor-ip.net)
14:47.25*** join/#kde thiago (~thiago@kde/thiago)
14:51.28*** join/#kde sujith_h (~sujith@122.166.174.180)
14:53.36*** join/#kde saabzero (~quassel@178-191-195-107.adsl.highway.telekom.at)
14:53.48*** join/#kde mycookie (~mycookie@d75-158-135-76.abhsia.telus.net)
14:56.32*** join/#kde shumski (~shumski@cpe-109-60-94-27.zg3.cable.xnet.hr)
14:58.26*** join/#kde cb400f (~cb400f@bf-bis.arrownet.dk)
14:58.26*** join/#kde cb400f (~cb400f@opensuse/member/Cb400f)
14:58.28*** join/#kde devajmitra (~quassel@117.223.98.238)
15:01.37*** join/#kde PaulW2U (~PaulW2U@pdpc/supporter/active/paulw2u)
15:02.19*** join/#kde aernhart__ (~aernhart@129.33.49.244)
15:03.40*** join/#kde jgrulich (~jgrulich@193.86.90.250)
15:05.16*** join/#kde jgrulich_ (~jgrulich@193.86.90.250)
15:09.05*** join/#kde zzAMzz (~armin@ip70-189-177-184.lv.lv.cox.net)
15:15.33*** join/#kde mtk (~mtk@ool-44c35983.dyn.optonline.net)
15:17.33*** join/#kde mtk (~mtk@ool-44c35983.dyn.optonline.net)
15:18.55*** join/#kde shal3r (~shal3r@office.gold.lv)
15:21.10*** join/#kde mtk (~mtk@ool-44c35983.dyn.optonline.net)
15:23.04*** join/#kde remus (~quassel@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f86c-207.dhcp.inet.fi)
15:26.21*** join/#kde krabador (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador)
15:29.23*** join/#kde gdebure (~guillaume@66.143.73.86.rev.sfr.net)
15:30.16*** join/#kde niteshnarayanlal (~Nitesh@fedora/niteshnarayanlal)
15:30.45*** join/#kde altin (~altin@flossk/altin)
15:33.40*** join/#kde saabzero (~quassel@178-191-195-107.adsl.highway.telekom.at)
15:35.09*** join/#kde urkud (~urkud@broadband-46-188-32-140.2kom.ru)
15:37.39*** join/#kde Alex_Zion (~quassel@187.143.179.177)
15:42.47*** join/#kde aernhart__ (aernhart@nat/ibm/x-fhuagzbpqwqxhazv)
15:44.35*** join/#kde Rix (~rix@unaffiliated/rix)
15:47.22*** join/#kde machaku (~emilli@197.152.8.223)
15:47.32*** part/#kde machaku (~emilli@197.152.8.223)
15:49.40*** join/#kde Manko10 (~janek@erft-5d80ea12.pool.mediaWays.net)
15:53.46*** join/#kde faemir2 (~dan@cpc3-shep11-2-0-cust907.8-3.cable.virginmedia.com)
15:57.31*** join/#kde underscores (~underscor@fedora/underscores)
15:58.40*** join/#kde blubb (~blubb@HSI-KBW-109-193-146-132.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de)
16:02.08*** join/#kde liudas (~liudas@unaffiliated/liudas)
16:02.23*** join/#kde NeuhNeuh (~florian@81.253.33.218)
16:03.41*** join/#kde Serafean (~martin@2001:718:2:2905:21e:64ff:fe3c:c866)
16:05.08*** join/#kde Crendgrim (~quassel@port-92-204-119-166.dynamic.qsc.de)
16:06.09*** join/#kde wolftune (~aaron@173-15-227-61-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
16:07.09*** join/#kde DarthCodus (~anmolan@120.59.125.14)
16:07.10*** join/#kde DarthCodus (~anmolan@unaffiliated/darthcodus)
16:11.24*** join/#kde prkc (~negusnyul@2E6B5202.dsl.pool.telekom.hu)
16:12.41*** join/#kde brot (~brot@quassel/contributors/brot)
16:15.31*** join/#kde miha (~miha@BSN-61-16-98.dial-up.dsl.siol.net)
16:17.31*** join/#kde floe (~flo@e179004114.adsl.alicedsl.de)
16:18.20*** join/#kde remus (~quassel@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f86c-207.dhcp.inet.fi)
16:19.42*** join/#kde Qwc (~qwc@194-166-129-171.adsl.highway.telekom.at)
16:20.51*** join/#kde wentknweqt (~wentknweq@68.168.208.216)
16:21.09*** join/#kde fewcha (~sanjiban@14.139.221.18)
16:22.38*** join/#kde Juan (~juan@unaffiliated/juan)
16:25.17*** join/#kde Noughmad (~miha@BSN-61-16-98.dial-up.dsl.siol.net)
16:25.55*** join/#kde urkud (~urkud@broadband-46-188-32-140.2kom.ru)
16:28.22*** join/#kde jaafar (~jet@adsl-76-200-135-38.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
16:32.23*** join/#kde disharmonic (~dis@79.103.149.252.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr)
16:33.59*** join/#kde punit9462_ (~quassel@59.98.48.59)
16:34.24*** join/#kde fuchs13 (~quassel@dslb-088-066-041-065.pools.arcor-ip.net)
16:35.56*** join/#kde PasNox (~pasnox@2a01:e35:8b4f:f2a0:818:7f42:d90c:7236)
16:37.26*** join/#kde Kame2 (~manuel@dslb-188-108-146-242.pools.arcor-ip.net)
16:40.45*** join/#kde wgosling (~wgosling@nat-198-95-226-230.netapp.com)
16:40.46*** join/#kde devajmitra (~quassel@117.223.98.238)
16:44.28*** join/#kde _kdepepo (~pepo@p5B3B959A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
16:44.52*** join/#kde adrian_ (~adrian@86.127.13.68)
16:45.59*** join/#kde fuchs13 (~quassel@dslb-088-066-041-065.pools.arcor-ip.net)
16:47.25*** join/#kde ChemBro (~quassel@dslb-188-107-083-020.pools.arcor-ip.net)
16:47.29*** join/#kde rindolf (~Shlomi@bzq-79-177-62-5.red.bezeqint.net)
16:48.02*** join/#kde fewcha (~sanjiban@14.139.221.18)
16:50.28*** join/#kde kisisten (~magyar@c-98-234-50-17.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
16:52.25*** join/#kde disharmonic (~dis@79.103.149.252.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr)
16:53.20*** join/#kde sickel-cell (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
16:54.07*** part/#kde rymate1234 (~rymate@znc.rymate.co.uk)
16:54.44ZenGuy311i i use kde and want this script https://tad-do.net/wp-content/rarnpar in a service menu so that when i right click a file it automatically launches a terminal windows to run & monitor and output the directory wit hthe filename/folder name minus the extension with a appended word
17:01.08*** join/#kde lkrejci (~lkrejci@ip-62-245-100-162.net.upcbroadband.cz)
17:01.08*** join/#kde lkrejci (~lkrejci@redhat/jboss/lkrejci)
17:01.52*** join/#kde plfiorini (~plfiorini@93-39-206-197.ip77.fastwebnet.it)
17:03.55*** join/#kde etienne_ (~quassel@80-219-20-92.dclient.hispeed.ch)
17:04.17*** join/#kde licensed (~licensed@177.98.156.153)
17:04.17*** join/#kde licensed (~licensed@unaffiliated/licensed)
17:05.11*** join/#kde liudas (~liudas@unaffiliated/liudas)
17:05.46*** join/#kde shumski (~shumski@cpe-109-60-94-27.zg3.cable.xnet.hr)
17:06.13*** join/#kde diabel (~dex@static-78-9-71-204.ssp.dialog.net.pl)
17:08.04invariantCan I request someone's permissions to be removed from bugs.kde.org?
17:08.27invariantThe reason would be a severe  case of incompetence.
17:10.23invariantWe have someone maintaining Dolphin with a physics degree. Everybody RUN!!!
17:10.44invariantI thought who is that incompetent fool? But guess what? It's the maintainer!
17:11.20*** join/#kde gdebure (~guillaume@2a02-8420-6742-bf00-0223-14ff-fe4d-0790.rev.sfr.net)
17:11.35invariantYou can better just mark Dolphin as being unmaintained, as that would likely do less damage.
17:13.27*** join/#kde tal_l (~tall@bzq-79-180-134-51.red.bezeqint.net)
17:14.31*** join/#kde Malsasa (~Malsasa@114.79.59.183)
17:15.09*** join/#kde ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul)
17:16.35*** join/#kde SiceklCell (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
17:17.46*** join/#kde K00pi3[9] (~K00pi39]@62-165-248-187.pool.digikabel.hu)
17:19.25*** join/#kde nkoc (~nkoc@wprt-5d836244.pool.mediaWays.net)
17:20.32*** join/#kde JackBauer24 (~JackBauer@89-76-72-190.dynamic.chello.pl)
17:22.13ZenGuy311isn't it improving?
17:25.38*** join/#kde sandman66 (~Grayson@p4FC636F8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
17:25.55*** join/#kde Syvolc (~tim@2a01:e35:8b93:45e0:f9d4:7537:8959:ff6b)
17:28.47*** join/#kde AL_Kernell (~wernerml@gateway/tor-sasl/alkernell/x-59861554)
17:30.37*** join/#kde samxan_ (~sam@kde/developer/bairagya)
17:33.53*** join/#kde JackBauer24 (~JackBauer@89-76-72-190.dynamic.chello.pl)
17:33.59*** join/#kde Elv13_ (~lepagee@98.143.213.169)
17:34.15*** join/#kde thiago (~thiago@kde/thiago)
17:35.05*** join/#kde el-cuco (~elcuco@bzq-79-180-183-29.red.bezeqint.net)
17:37.19*** join/#kde prkc (~negusnyul@2E6B5202.dsl.pool.telekom.hu)
17:40.16*** join/#kde JackBauer24 (~JackBauer@89-76-72-190.dynamic.chello.pl)
17:42.47*** join/#kde apauzies (~apauzies@64.245.141.10)
17:42.58*** join/#kde Daskreech (~skreech@50.96.150.186)
17:42.58*** join/#kde Daskreech (~skreech@katapult/ninja/daskreech)
17:43.04*** join/#kde err-or (~err-or@gateway/tor-sasl/err-or)
17:43.05*** part/#kde apauzies (~apauzies@64.245.141.10)
17:44.02*** join/#kde samikshan (~sam@kde/developer/bairagya)
17:46.01*** join/#kde JackBauer24 (~JackBauer@89-76-72-190.dynamic.chello.pl)
17:47.20*** join/#kde jtalk (~quassel@94.181.46.210)
17:49.47*** join/#kde rahul_ (~rahul@121.245.133.180)
17:50.07*** join/#kde kirun (~kirun@82-71-16-154.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk)
17:50.31*** join/#kde punit9462 (~quassel@59.98.48.59)
17:50.44rdieterinvariant: umm... please try to be a little more considerate, http://www.kde.org/code-of-conduct/
17:50.59*** join/#kde wolftune (~aaron@173-15-227-61-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
17:51.32*** join/#kde JackBauer24 (~JackBauer@89-76-72-190.dynamic.chello.pl)
17:52.42invariantrdieter, believe me, I was very considerate. Perhaps just not to his feelings.
17:52.48*** join/#kde tdignan (~quassel@c-76-28-18-77.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
17:53.05invariantrdieter, it would be best for the KDE community to let someone else do Dolphin maintenance or develop a new application.
17:53.29invariantrdieter, have you seen his comments?
17:53.31*** join/#kde negusnyul (~negusnyul@2E6B5202.dsl.pool.telekom.hu)
17:54.26rdieterinvariant: making excuses ... isn't an excuse
17:54.47invariantrdieter, who is making excuses?
17:55.02rdietersomeone was mean to me, so it's ok for me to be a jerk too
17:55.03*** join/#kde JackBauer24 (~JackBauer@89-76-72-190.dynamic.chello.pl)
17:55.37rdieterinvariant: now, if you want to be constructive, I'd suggest followup in #kde-cwg
17:55.47*** join/#kde at1as (~at1as@kurios.r4780y.com)
17:55.50rdieteror contact the group private
17:56.15*** join/#kde matias (~matias@77.105.102.128)
17:56.29rdietercommunity-wg@kde.org , http://ev.kde.org/workinggroups/cwg.php
17:57.02*** join/#kde LySy (lysy@arch.edu.pl)
17:57.16*** part/#kde LySy (lysy@arch.edu.pl)
17:57.39rdieterinvariant: I'd be happy to followup with details too, if you don't mind sharing these comments from the maintainer
17:57.56rdieterfor which you find offense
17:58.12invariantrdieter, see last comment for this bug from him: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302295
17:58.22*** join/#kde NeuhNeuh (~florian@81.253.33.218)
17:58.49invariantrdieter, it doesn't need more info. It just needs someone to take the time to correct the problem.
17:59.01invariantrdieter, and since he is the maintainer... he is that person.
17:59.12invariantIf he doesn't want that, fine too.
17:59.23*** join/#kde ozzzy_ (~ozzzy@bas1-london16-1176190492.dsl.bell.ca)
17:59.30invariantBut then you don't get to have the label 'maintainer of Dolphin'.
17:59.38rdieterI don't understand why you're so upste
17:59.40rdieterupset
17:59.48invariantYou cannot say that you are saving children in the third world either when you don't.
18:00.03invariantrdieter, I am not upset.
18:00.20rdieteryou're calling the maintainer incompetent, for some reason.
18:00.29invariantrdieter, I just don't see who would ever put such a guy in place of maintainership.
18:00.44rdietercan you be specific why you feel that way?
18:00.47invariantrdieter, you can also just say "no".
18:01.15invariantrdieter, look at the bug and see whether or not you would be able to solve it, if you wanted.
18:01.23invariantrdieter, I am sure that you would be competent enough.
18:01.41rdieterso what wew have is a bug that's not solved yet... and you are questioning why?
18:01.42invariantrdieter, which is exactly the reason why what the maintainer says should never have been said.
18:01.55invariantrdieter, I don't question why.
18:02.36rdietersigh, all I see is trolling and complaniing.  please read the code of conduct I referenced, if you want to continue discussing this (with me at least)
18:02.46invariantrdieter, just answer the question: can you or can you not fix that bug if you were paid to do so?
18:02.53*** join/#kde lejocelyn (~lejocelyn@195-132-126-196.rev.numericable.fr)
18:02.56rdieterthat's irrelevant
18:02.59*** join/#kde Th3R0b (~bobby@e920.ip13.netikka.fi)
18:03.02invariantrdieter, no, it's not.
18:03.17invariantrdieter, he is the maintainer, he should be capable of fixing it.
18:03.26invariantrdieter, with this comment he shows that he can't.
18:03.34invariantrdieter, as such, unfit for duty.
18:03.35rdieterI guess we disagree then.  I assert dialog here requires rules, and the code of conduct is not negotiable
18:03.39invariantrdieter, in a company, he would be fired.
18:03.42*** join/#kde AL_Kernell (~wernerml@gateway/tor-sasl/alkernell/x-59861554)
18:03.52rdieterI also assert your attitude is bad
18:03.57invariantrdieter, disagree on what?
18:03.58*** join/#kde Sonderblade (~Sonderbla@h-52-183.a157.priv.bahnhof.se)
18:04.28invariantrdieter, you think a maintainer who responds like that is someone you want to have on more projects?
18:04.37rdieterit doesn't not matter
18:04.44invariantrdieter, yes, it does matter.
18:04.52rdieterand *that*, is where we disagree
18:05.00invariantrdieter, now, why doesn't it matter then?
18:05.01rdietergood day to you sir
18:05.20invariantrdieter, uhm, you sound rather pathetic.
18:05.29invariantrdieter, I expected more from you.
18:05.30rdieterplease read the code of conduct, and try harder to follow it
18:05.44rdieterelse, you risk no one here listening to you
18:05.52invariantrdieter, this discussion has ended and you lost all of my respect.
18:06.09rdietersomething we can agree
18:06.18BluesKajrdieter, ignore is your friend
18:06.33BluesKajnot him that's for sure :)
18:06.33invariantBluesKaj, if it isn't my dear ignorant friend BluesKaj...
18:07.06BluesKajdear me , another insult from the omnipotent jerk
18:07.21invariantYou boys have fun together. I have more important matters to attend to.
18:07.25rdieterBluesKaj: indeed
18:08.01*** join/#kde miha (~miha@BSN-61-16-98.dial-up.dsl.siol.net)
18:08.40*** join/#kde AndreiDuma (~duma@p16.eregie.pub.ro)
18:09.30*** join/#kde alireza (~alireza@213.233.185.41)
18:09.43*** join/#kde ximion (~ximion@pptp-194-94-199-92.pptp.stw-bonn.de)
18:10.01BluesKajrdieter, let the trolls be ...they need to spew their venom here , doubt if anyone else where he's employed has the patience for it , so he needs to find a different audience
18:10.37rdieterBluesKaj: yeah, my troll-radar was a little slow today
18:10.43BluesKajhehe
18:11.04BluesKajanyway BBL ...
18:11.28*** join/#kde Artakha (~artakha@f6.ip1.netikka.fi)
18:11.48*** join/#kde JackBauer24 (~JackBauer@89-76-72-190.dynamic.chello.pl)
18:12.26*** join/#kde _rd (~rd@p57B4BE15.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
18:12.34*** join/#kde Z_God (~julius@2001:888:141f:0:7807:4730:1e59:9ade)
18:13.00*** join/#kde ungethym (~ungethym@77-56-191-62.dclient.hispeed.ch)
18:13.06*** join/#kde devajmitra (~quassel@117.223.98.238)
18:13.09*** join/#kde JackBauer24 (~JackBauer@89-76-72-190.dynamic.chello.pl)
18:13.47*** join/#kde DarthGandalf (~Vetinari@znc/developer/DarthGandalf)
18:14.26*** join/#kde |oop (~pool@c-68-81-109-22.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
18:15.32*** join/#kde privacychain (~privacych@177.192.217.59)
18:15.48*** join/#kde NeuhNeuh (~florian@81.253.33.218)
18:18.31*** join/#kde gdebure (~guillaume@2a02-8420-6742-bf00-0223-14ff-fe4d-0790.rev.sfr.net)
18:19.30*** join/#kde Hydrar (~hydrar@h-87-65.a163.priv.bahnhof.se)
18:20.39*** join/#kde thiago (~thiago@kde/thiago)
18:23.54*** join/#kde cogsu (~cogsu@s3212-200.resnet.ucla.edu)
18:24.50*** join/#kde wolftune (~aaron@173-15-227-61-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
18:28.50*** join/#kde shumski| (~shumski@cpe-109-60-94-27.zg3.cable.xnet.hr)
18:30.08*** join/#kde DarthCodus (~anmolan@unaffiliated/darthcodus)
18:30.14*** join/#kde niteshnarayanlal (~Nitesh@fedora/niteshnarayanlal)
18:33.36*** join/#kde mindCrime_ (~prhodes@12.198.68.2)
18:33.40*** join/#kde DarthFrog (~rob@S01060014bfba779e.vn.shawcable.net)
18:33.53*** join/#kde ChemBro (~chembro@dslb-188-107-083-020.pools.arcor-ip.net)
18:35.26*** join/#kde dv__ (~quassel@chello080108009040.14.11.vie.surfer.at)
18:36.01*** join/#kde mindCrime_ (~prhodes@12.198.68.2)
18:40.49*** join/#kde Sparxz__ (~mark@188.141.74.28)
18:43.24*** join/#kde juancarlospaco (~quassel@host50.190-139-229.telecom.net.ar)
18:44.24*** join/#kde Neandre (~neandre@85-170-116-133.rev.numericable.fr)
18:45.02*** join/#kde neoclust (~neoclust@pel44-1-78-229-240-215.fbx.proxad.net)
18:46.52*** join/#kde LeeJunFan (~junfan@97-83-113-254.static.trcy.mi.charter.com)
18:51.21*** join/#kde Sparxz_ (~mark@188.141.74.28)
18:51.39*** join/#kde Noughmad (~miha@BSN-61-16-98.dial-up.dsl.siol.net)
18:53.14*** join/#kde falcon` (~Falcon@falcon.kolosowscy.pl)
18:54.01*** join/#kde katirzinja (~katirzinj@cpe-74-71-78-146.twcny.res.rr.com)
18:54.01*** join/#kde zvx10 (~quassel@109.188.124.107)
18:54.42*** join/#kde Sparxz_ (~mark@188.141.74.28)
18:55.35*** join/#kde Th3R0b (~bobby@e920.ip13.netikka.fi)
18:56.56*** join/#kde devajmitra (~quassel@117.223.98.238)
18:58.43*** join/#kde blueck (~bb@dslb-178-011-081-192.pools.arcor-ip.net)
18:59.35*** join/#kde protagoras271 (~protagora@64.124.65.162)
18:59.50*** join/#kde kisisten (~magyar@c-98-234-50-17.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
19:03.20*** join/#kde demm (~quassel@h24.61.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net)
19:05.09*** join/#kde magyar (~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar)
19:05.41*** join/#kde fewcha (~sanjiban@14.139.221.18)
19:07.16*** join/#kde mapyth (~quassel@117.211.86.109)
19:09.14*** join/#kde paradigm_arson__ (~user@31.110.20.29)
19:10.00*** join/#kde LeeJunFan (~junfan@108-234-6-202.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net)
19:10.50*** join/#kde shumski (~shumski@cpe-109-60-94-27.zg3.cable.xnet.hr)
19:11.12*** join/#kde protagoras271 (~protagora@64.124.65.162)
19:13.09*** join/#kde vblazquez (~vic@22.40.15.37.dynamic.jazztel.es)
19:14.31*** join/#kde dvratil (~Dan@ip4-95-82-187-209.cust.nbox.cz)
19:19.36*** join/#kde K00pi3[9] (~K00pi39]@62-165-248-187.pool.digikabel.hu)
19:25.05*** join/#kde Alex-Zion (~quassel@189.132.218.27)
19:27.31*** join/#kde konelix_ (~konelix@190.143.211.41)
19:29.22*** join/#kde AlexZion (~quassel@187.143.179.177)
19:30.44*** join/#kde Th3R0b (~bobby@e920.ip13.netikka.fi)
19:31.16*** join/#kde RingtailedFox (~Ringtaile@d24-57-38-211.home.cgocable.net)
19:31.35*** join/#kde westbrook (~westbrook@guatito.Physics.Berkeley.EDU)
19:31.44*** part/#kde westbrook (~westbrook@guatito.Physics.Berkeley.EDU)
19:33.16*** join/#kde Alexei95 (~quassel@host74-255-dynamic.117-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
19:35.03*** join/#kde MercurialAlchemi (~mercurial@178.157.200.13)
19:35.34*** join/#kde wolftune (~aaron@173-15-227-61-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
19:37.11*** join/#kde zir0faive (~zir0faive@cty37-1-78-214-92-19.fbx.proxad.net)
19:38.28*** join/#kde Rasi (~carnager@archlinux/support/rasi)
19:40.06*** join/#kde el-cuco (~elcuco@bzq-79-180-183-29.red.bezeqint.net)
19:40.49*** join/#kde devajmitra (~quassel@117.223.98.238)
19:48.12*** join/#kde AlexZion (~quassel@187.143.179.177)
19:48.44*** join/#kde trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com)
19:53.13*** join/#kde miha (~miha@BSN-61-16-98.dial-up.dsl.siol.net)
19:53.49*** join/#kde NeuhNeuh (~florian@81.253.33.218)
19:54.28*** join/#kde monkeyjuice (~rudy@unaffiliated/mydogsnameisrudy)
19:55.32*** join/#kde konelix_ (~konelix@190.143.170.95)
19:58.51*** join/#kde Droste1 (~droste@p4FE0E165.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
19:59.41*** join/#kde chronos (~quassel@unaffiliated/chronos)
20:02.03*** join/#kde tosky (~tosky@176.74.128.57)
20:02.48*** join/#kde DarkSasori (~lineu@189.115.92.90)
20:03.50DarkSasorihi, i have a process called 'kio_http', what do it do?
20:04.02*** join/#kde X-Jester (~xjester@c-50-134-225-15.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
20:04.29X-Jesterhey, sorry for the lame question, but does anyone know how to restore the kde 4.9 screenlocker behavior in 4.10?  my asciiquarium is now two asciiquariums instead of one, and that's sadface for me :P
20:05.15*** join/#kde el-cuco (~elcuco@bzq-79-180-183-29.red.bezeqint.net)
20:06.38*** join/#kde z16a_ (~z16a@BSN-77-69-204.static.dsl.siol.net)
20:09.28*** join/#kde junkDawgie (~blkdragon@74.196.182.78)
20:10.43*** join/#kde renards (~fox@136.71.73.86.rev.sfr.net)
20:11.25DaZtwo? :c
20:15.52*** join/#kde konelix_ (~konelix@190.143.192.50)
20:18.08striker|rhDarkSasori: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kio_http
20:19.04*** join/#kde CMoH (~cipi@unaffiliated/c-moh)
20:21.07*** join/#kde konelix_ (~konelix@190.143.180.195)
20:21.20*** join/#kde da1l6 (~da1l6@ip-178-202-66-117.unitymediagroup.de)
20:23.58*** join/#kde DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@unaffiliated/daemonfc)
20:24.13DarkSasoristriker|rh: hauhauhauua
20:24.38*** join/#kde VladimirBel (~vladimir@93.178.68.77)
20:24.39striker|rh:)
20:24.40*** join/#kde lejocelyn_ (~lejocelyn@195-132-126-196.rev.numericable.fr)
20:26.38*** join/#kde BigWig_ (~quassel@c-67-160-127-237.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
20:27.38*** join/#kde devajmitra (~quassel@117.223.98.238)
20:31.47*** join/#kde altin (~altin@flossk/altin)
20:32.29*** join/#kde giovanni (~giovanni@adsl-ull-22-106.51-151.net24.it)
20:33.16*** join/#kde wolftune (~aaron@207.179.110.27)
20:33.59*** join/#kde konelix__ (~konelix@190.143.238.26)
20:41.24*** part/#kde junkDawgie (~blkdragon@74.196.182.78)
20:49.00*** join/#kde aernhart__ (~aernhart@cpe-107-015-107-218.nc.res.rr.com)
20:50.29*** join/#kde tomcat_berlin (~thomas@g225151154.adsl.alicedsl.de)
20:53.55*** join/#kde rcerny (~rcerny@84-75-21-171.dclient.hispeed.ch)
20:54.16*** join/#kde konelix (~konelix@190.143.223.49)
20:56.29*** join/#kde enderw (~enderw@d172-219-119-172.abhsia.telus.net)
20:56.56*** join/#kde el-cuco (~elcuco@bzq-79-180-183-29.red.bezeqint.net)
21:02.44*** join/#kde cobra-the-joker (~nour@unaffiliated/cobra-the-joker)
21:03.11*** join/#kde konelix (~konelix@190.143.181.170)
21:05.15megaTherionX-Jester: I've this bug as well
21:14.21*** join/#kde JackBauer24 (~JackBauer@89-76-72-190.dynamic.chello.pl)
21:20.10*** part/#kde Guest91462 (~giovanni@adsl-ull-22-106.51-151.net24.it)
21:20.43*** join/#kde enderw (~enderw@d172-219-119-172.abhsia.telus.net)
21:23.00*** join/#kde avihay (~quassel@vps.secauth.net)
21:24.29*** join/#kde bjackman (~brendan@5.64.63.184)
21:32.09*** join/#kde Guest (~textual@ip-149.net-81-220-152.grenoble.rev.numericable.fr)
21:37.32*** join/#kde Spiffyman (~quassel@p3015-ipbf2503funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp)
21:40.54*** join/#kde cogsu (~cogsu@s3212-200.resnet.ucla.edu)
21:44.19*** join/#kde bbeck (~bbeck@dxr-fw.dxr.siu.edu)
21:48.19*** join/#kde SiceklCell (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
21:49.20*** join/#kde liudas (~liudas@unaffiliated/liudas)
21:55.00*** join/#kde Nikoli (~Nikoli@unaffiliated/nikoli)
21:56.03*** join/#kde oget (~oget@cpe-72-229-224-227.nyc.res.rr.com)
21:56.26*** join/#kde willemw (~willemw@D978955D.cm-3-1c.dynamic.ziggo.nl)
21:57.16*** join/#kde promulo (~quassel@187.114.211.75)
21:57.24*** join/#kde enderw (~enderw@d172-219-119-172.abhsia.telus.net)
21:59.10*** join/#kde SiceklCell (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
22:01.47*** join/#kde drdanz (~quassel@drdanz.it)
22:04.13*** join/#kde IAmRoot (~Colin@c-76-115-108-153.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
22:06.02*** join/#kde konelix_ (~konelix@200.119.171.13)
22:06.03*** join/#kde AL_Kernell (~wernerml@gateway/tor-sasl/alkernell/x-59861554)
22:09.52*** join/#kde privacychain (~privacych@177.192.217.59)
22:12.41*** join/#kde Aristide (aristide@server5.tonbnc.fr)
22:16.11*** join/#kde SiceklCell (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
22:16.12*** join/#kde lnxslck (~lnxslck@bl16-213-62.dsl.telepac.pt)
22:16.12Two_Dogsi am using the google-mail plasmoid(panel) for mail-watch, i would just as happy with a pim-mail-watch method as long as it did not add overhead, such as having to keep kmail open(which is the only other method i have found) any thoughts?
22:16.27*** join/#kde mindCrime_ (~prhodes@12.198.68.2)
22:16.56Two_Dogskde 4.10, suse
22:17.26*** join/#kde gabriel9 (~gabriel9@31.223.219.136)
22:23.25*** join/#kde DarthFrog (~rob@S01060014bfba779e.vn.shawcable.net)
22:24.28*** join/#kde mindCrime_ (~prhodes@12.198.68.2)
22:26.40*** join/#kde privacychain (~privacych@177.192.217.59)
22:26.49*** join/#kde SiceklCell (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
22:32.07*** join/#kde mindCrime_ (~prhodes@12.198.68.2)
22:33.41*** join/#kde Prof_Frink (~proffrink@90.193.88.212)
22:34.41*** join/#kde boris64 (~boris64@cl-568.leo-01.de.sixxs.net)
22:37.02*** join/#kde infinull (~gkmachine@c-24-19-160-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
22:38.00*** join/#kde mindCrime_ (~prhodes@12.198.68.2)
22:42.52*** join/#kde privacychain (~privacych@177.192.217.59)
22:44.12*** join/#kde erfanian (~eric@c-75-73-54-203.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
22:47.01*** join/#kde saigkill_ (~sascha@88-134-80-100-dynip.superkabel.de)
22:50.50*** join/#kde SiceklCell (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
22:51.16*** join/#kde jehan (~jehan@kiel4-dmz.gis.de)
22:58.19*** join/#kde Malcer (~quassel@140.Red-81-39-254.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net)
22:58.36*** join/#kde jayrulez (~jayrulez@72.252.159.112)
23:00.50*** join/#kde sickel-cell (~quassel@14.139.122.114)
23:01.40*** join/#kde lkrejci (~lkrejci@ip-62-245-100-162.net.upcbroadband.cz)
23:01.40*** join/#kde lkrejci (~lkrejci@redhat/jboss/lkrejci)
23:03.57*** join/#kde da1l6 (~da1l6@ip-178-202-66-117.unitymediagroup.de)
23:08.04*** join/#kde Vash63 (~quassel@ip72-211-172-252.tc.ph.cox.net)
23:10.33*** join/#kde Vash63 (~quassel@ip72-211-172-252.tc.ph.cox.net)
23:11.01*** join/#kde lnxslck (~lnxslck@bl16-213-62.dsl.telepac.pt)
23:15.49*** join/#kde V0id (~V0id@wls68-1-78-233-85-167.fbx.proxad.net)
23:18.42*** join/#kde amingv (~amin@190.167.85.142)
23:19.45*** join/#kde V0id (~V0id@wls68-1-78-233-85-167.fbx.proxad.net)
23:26.43*** join/#kde bit-pirate (~quassel@106.240.238.35)
23:31.19*** join/#kde Magiobiwan (IRC@unaffiliated/magiobiwan)
23:33.43*** join/#kde Sparxz_ (~mark@188.141.74.28)
23:36.49*** join/#kde saLOUt (~rriemann@93.121.218.53)
23:41.55*** join/#kde underscores (~underscor@fedora/underscores)
23:43.34*** join/#kde erfanian (~eric@c-75-73-54-203.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
23:44.39*** join/#kde apoi (~andi@85-126-180-242.volume.xdsl-line.inode.at)
23:45.51*** join/#kde rcerny (~rcerny@84-75-21-171.dclient.hispeed.ch)
23:48.35*** join/#kde djustice (d0362c85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.54.44.133)
23:49.22*** join/#kde rysiek|pl (~quassel@master.fwioo.pl)
23:54.27*** join/#kde jayrulez (~jayrulez@72.252.159.112)
23:55.39djusticehttp://imgur.com/NqJShjo,kacYljG,li6cgvg,umrX9bO,HEgX9PO,ZokrBhP
23:55.55djusticeit's a lot prettier now tho..
23:56.19*** join/#kde wgosling (~wgosling@nat-198-95-226-230.netapp.com)

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.