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06:41.16Roberth1990stack_: do you just build from source or from the source debs?
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06:42.08Roberth1990stack_: and I personally wouldn't do that on ubuntu distros since they heavily patches everything which makes vanilla packages often very unstable
06:42.25Roberth1990stack_: any particular reason you recompile them?
06:43.08stack_I meant i cloned them from anongit.kde then build it using cmake make make install ..
06:43.25Roberth1990well then you are askin for trouble
06:43.58stack_oh anything that could help?
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06:44.14Roberth1990stack_: why do you compile from git really?
06:44.53stack_is that a wrong way ? it works fine with 12.04
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09:40.08tcberner_Moin
09:41.13tcberner_I have the problem that I have to manually restart the "Mail Dispatcher Agent" all the time so that mail gets sent from kmail. I found some old bug reports, but there seems to be no progress. Is there some workaround?
09:41.40tcberner_Qt: 4.8.4       KDE Development Platform: 4.10.3        KMail: 4.10.3
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10:55.49luiscuerdohello, i tried installing mint kde in an old laptop but the screen freezes and nothing happens
10:56.14luiscuerdoi just get from freedom came elegance
10:57.11ChemBroand you asked the linux mint guys before?
10:57.29luiscuerdowhere do i find them ChemBro?
10:57.49ChemBroi don't know, i don't use linux mint
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10:58.10ChemBrobut this sounds more like a distro specific problem not a kde related one
10:58.16luiscuerdowhat do u use ChemBro?
10:58.22ChemBroarch linux
10:58.42luiscuerdowhat would be the best option for a quite old laptop ChemBro?
10:59.01ChemBroany linux distro?
10:59.12luiscuerdowell, not the one I am trying XD
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11:00.08luiscuerdoi am installing it within windows, maybe that works
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11:02.53luiscuerdoi am downloading arc linux, is that with kde ChemBro?
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11:04.02ChemBroi don't know about "arc linux", but arch linux is not for beginners
11:04.17bonsaikittenpff
11:04.26bonsaikittenreading comprehension can be assumed
11:04.44ChemBro?
11:05.01bonsaikittenif you can read it shouldn't be hard to just follow the manual
11:05.50luiscuerdoit seems that now it is working when installed from windows
11:06.26luiscuerdonope
11:08.44luiscuerdothis linux experience is very frustrating
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11:09.47luiscuerdoblack screen now
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11:13.05luiscuerdoso much for freedom and elegance
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11:32.45jdolesKopete is running, but how do I bring it to the front?
11:32.55jdolesIt's running in the systray currently.
11:33.11jdoles(but it is one of the "hidden items")
11:33.35jdolesIs there something better than Kopete, I can change to that too.
11:34.30tsimpsonhave you tried clicking on the icon in the tray?
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11:38.04rindolfjdoles: I prefer Pidgin over Kopete.
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11:38.18rindolfjdoles: Pidgin is not a KDE app, but it's very nice.
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11:39.50jdolestsimpson: yes, and that doesn't do anything.
11:40.23jdolestsimpson: I think the tray is broken, but that was discussed earlier already.
11:41.11jdolesrindolf: I'd like Pidgin to run, but not show any window or icon until I actually get a message.
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11:41.27jdolesrindolf: I have not been able to configure it like that successfully.
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11:42.02jdolesrindolf: I don't think this is my limitation, but either another flaw in the system tray or in the interaction between pidgin and the tray.
11:45.50jdolesThe instructions regarding kdesrc-build do not work here: http://community.kde.org/KTp/Getting_Set_Up
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11:48.44TomTomhi there, ive setup a new fresh kubuntu and want to import my old maildir. it contains about 90000 mails. the import succeedes but when i want to view the mails, i see the headers, sometimes content, but never attachments and akonadi writes "the maildir "" for the collection "" is not valid". any idea?
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11:50.32jdolesTomTom: only solution I see is "grep the source code", and follow the path of that variable.
11:50.58jdolesTomTom: how long did the import take?
11:51.34TomTomjdoles: 5minutes... its on a SSD. but i am not sure if the email indexer might be a problem and "locks" some mails?
11:52.02jdolesTomTom: you can also just file a bug.
11:52.18jdolesTomTom: it should never bail out like that.
11:52.23TomTomi installed the akonadiconsole and can see that the indexer ist still working "32%"
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11:52.56jdolesTomTom: I'd recommend you to use something which has less moving parts.
11:53.11jdolesTomTom: akonadi is not exactly a light weight solution.
11:54.06TomTomi use this piece of software sind the 4.0 release.. it caused me lots of problems... i will stick to kmail2. but i think the devs never test their software with a reasonable amount of data :)
11:54.23TomTom90k mails is nothing for several years
11:54.36TomTomand of course also the data is nothing for a database...
11:54.41TomTompeanuts
11:54.41jdolesTomTom: depends on whether you wrote half of them.
11:55.01TomTomjdoles: no :-)
11:55.06jdolesTomTom: Most people don't write more than a few messages per day.
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11:55.23jdolesTomTom: there are some technical people who send out 90000 messages in a decade or so.
11:55.35jdolesTomTom: but indeed, 90K is not a lot.
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11:55.42bonsaikittenTomTom: no one does - Thunderbird and Evolution become unusable in the 100k mail range
11:55.55bonsaikittenkmail at least stays reasonably fast
11:57.11bonsaikittenTomTom: you could try running an IMAP server like dovecot locally, that usually works better than direct maildir access
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12:03.20jdolesbonsaikitten: what mail client do you use?
12:03.57bonsaikittenjdoles: Thunderbird for legacy reasons, and kmail
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12:04.17bonsaikitteneverything else fails basic survival test (send, receive, with SSL, read, write)
12:04.26bonsaikittenand TB is forcing me to get rid of it
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12:06.53jdolesTB performance is rather bad.
12:07.30jdolesBut it is fairly robust in the kind of stuff it handles.
12:07.48jdolesIf you have to deal with people who can't use e-mail (Windows users), then it is quite good.
12:07.53jdoles(better than kmail)
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12:09.39bonsaikitteneh no. it's very retarded-bad with SSL
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12:09.54bonsaikittenso bad that it won't even give any error message if there's a problem
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13:08.02BluesKajHiyas all
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13:15.34sonOfRaWhen receiving notifications (from chat, email, etc), some applications appear to be muted in kmix. Currently this happens with spotify and amarok. Another music player(clementine) is not affected.
13:15.58sonOfRaQt: 4.8.4
13:15.59sonOfRaKDE: 4.10.3
13:15.59sonOfRa, Running on gentoo
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13:16.46sonOfRaApparently this is an issue with phonon I assume, as clementine goes straight to alsa, and the other two don't
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13:20.36sonOfRaany idea what could be the cause of this?
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16:04.29therazrHi everyone. How do I change my KDE screensaver?
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16:32.53Moviurotherazr: display & screens or whatever -> screensaver
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16:33.27Moviurowhere can a "failed to open display" error come from? archlinux x86_64, fully uptodate (KDE 4.10.4)
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16:34.19Moviurotherazr: in systemsettings, of course
16:35.02therazrMoviuro: Can we get something similar to xscreensaver with those animated screensavers?
16:35.48Moviurotherazr: install the good packages :)
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19:42.04SharkMa-sanwhat's up with kmail? It keeps on adding the account I've already removed 10 times
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19:44.51SharkMa-sanand it hangs the whole desktop environment occasionally...
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19:58.42hdevalenceHi, how do I figure out why KWin's performance is so poor with compositing? I'm using fglrx with a radeon 7850, and I only ever get between 5-10 fps.
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20:02.05cb400fhdevalence: figure out which effects suck for your card/driver and turn them off... main suspects are blur and transparency
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20:29.41hdevalencecb400f: thanks for the help!
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20:32.40Sorunomehow was that networkmanager plasma widget called again?
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20:34.42Sorunomeis it a default widgit? coz i can't find it
20:35.36Sorunomeall i can find is the network monitor when i search
20:37.07MoviuroIs it possible in KDE 4.10.4 to change the "simple lockscreen"'s wallpaper?
20:37.41Sorunomenvm, i found it
20:38.00Sorunomekdeplasma-applets-networkmanagement (pacman)
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20:41.04Sorunomeoh, and kde mounts my usb devices as read-only, how do i change that? (i use archlinux)
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20:47.46DaZntfs-3g? :v
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20:56.33Roberth1990Sorunome: and remember, it doesnt shwo up in the tray by default
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21:14.37Sorunomeoh, and kde mounts my usb devices as read-only, how do i change that? (i use archlinux) (sorry, the internet disconnected and i can't read if somebody awnsered)
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21:32.20mydjeySorunome: check if you have : ntfs-3g package installed
21:32.57Sorunomei didn't
21:33.08Sorunomedo i have to restart the pc after installation so that it'll work?
21:33.25flak37nope
21:33.40flak37just unmount and mount again
21:33.46flak37the usb devices
21:33.48Sorunomethanks
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21:34.51Sorunomeuho, still only readable
21:35.32Sorunometries next usb device
21:35.53Sorunomethere it works
21:36.00Sorunomeso i guess i have a usb stick that i need to format :D
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21:36.08Sorunomethanks :D
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21:37.38Sorunomeand that is why the recovery iso didn't work, not enough space xD
21:37.55Sorunomewut, there is only non-allocated stuff on that usb O.O
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21:45.28mydjeySomeone knows a way to integrate Thunderbird in KDE (with Oxygen theme) ?
21:45.44mydjeyI'm new to KDE, I've found for Firefox but not for Thunderbird
21:46.40Sorunomethere is kmail for that stuff out there
21:46.44Sorunomebut i still use thunderbird
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21:53.03mydjeyi know kmail but at the moment i want to remain on Thunderbird
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22:01.37sdzIs kwin tiling included and usable in KDE 4.10.3? (google search results seem to disagree)
22:03.13Moviurosdz: dropped from 4.10.0
22:04.16sdzDo you know of any plans to bring back window tiling support in future versions?
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22:17.17Moviurosdz: some people work on a KWin script, what I heard :)
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22:23.38TlorI have a question?
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22:24.29Tlorwould any of you guys know the answer to my question
22:25.22Tlormy question is before i installed this program my built in wi-fi worked and now it does not?
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