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01:01.42 | SineTheCreator | hi all. quick question, in kde 3.5.x was there a package for kde's default applications dialog? i'm running the latest trinity-desktop on debian 7 and everything is working great, but the default applications dialog seems to be missing. |
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01:52.08 | roberth1990 | SineTheCreator: I think you will need to ask the people that use trinity, neither kde3 nor trinity is supported |
02:03.47 | SineTheCreator | roberth1990: that's cool, but i'm sure there's some people here that used KDE3.x back in the day. there is always the possibility that someone knows the answer whether it's 'supported' or not. to be fair, trinity desktop's package structure is the same as KDE's, just with -trinity on the end. |
02:04.21 | SineTheCreator | i did ask in the trinity support channel but nobody knew |
02:04.37 | roberth1990 | SineTheCreator: have you tried askin the trinity community? |
02:04.53 | SineTheCreator | yep. i just said that :D |
02:07.35 | thiago | roberth1990: what applications dialog? |
02:16.08 | roberth1990 | thiago: ask SineTheCreator |
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02:22.24 | SineTheCreator | thiago: i'm missing the 'default applications' dialog in kde3.5.x and was wondering if there is a package that was needed to get it |
02:23.55 | thiago | SineTheCreator: again, what dialog is that? Can you describe what it does? |
02:24.04 | thiago | I might remember the application name, but I need a little more details. |
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02:31.46 | SineTheCreator | thiago: it allows you to set what applications you prefer to use for certain things. i.e. web browser, text editor, what to do when a usb stick or mp3 player is connected, etc etc |
02:31.57 | SineTheCreator | i know KDE3.5.x had this dialog. i remember seeing it. |
02:32.37 | SineTheCreator | it's alot like the 'open with ...' dialog that allows you to choose / set a program as the default viewer/editor of a filetype |
02:32.51 | thiago | I think it's a kcm, not an application |
02:33.11 | SineTheCreator | that's what i said :D |
02:33.16 | SineTheCreator | default applications dialog |
02:33.39 | SineTheCreator | i never explicitly stated that it was a standalone application. but still, is there a package for the module? |
02:34.46 | thiago | it's the "componentchooser" module |
02:35.31 | SineTheCreator | aha!! thank you :D |
02:35.38 | thiago | my guess is that in KDE 3 it was exactly where it is now: kdebase/kcontrol/componentchooser |
02:35.40 | SineTheCreator | i thought i checked that one but i guess not |
02:37.14 | SineTheCreator | yay, now i can actually open URLs from weechat in chromium without having to copy them first |
02:37.16 | SineTheCreator | thanks again |
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05:21.10 | d9500 | does the network management plasma widget support managing bridged connections in version 0.9.8? |
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05:23.31 | darwin | s |
05:23.42 | darwin | oops |
05:24.34 | darwin | how do I set up KDE4 so when I select the desktop icon on the panel, it just goes to the desktop rather than some menu below with 'desktop,' 'desktop icons'? I chose to have one desktop only, not 'desktop' & 'desktop icons'--the icons should be able to be on the desktop |
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05:28.30 | d9500 | darwin, are you referring to the three little colored dots (red, blue, green) icon, or the dark blue rectangular "show the plasma desktop"icon? |
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05:45.13 | darwin | d9500, no I am talking about an actual desktop icon |
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05:45.26 | darwin | called 'show the desktop' |
05:45.34 | darwin | like in many GUIs since 1995 |
05:47.02 | darwin | well, I guess the one you mentioned does what I described |
05:47.05 | d9500 | if i click on that icon on my plasma-panel, it minimizes all open windows |
05:47.12 | darwin | but the one called 'show the desktop' does not show the desktop |
05:47.24 | d9500 | what distro are you using? |
05:47.27 | darwin | Slackware |
05:47.39 | d9500 | oh..yeah, sorry, i won't be of much help then |
05:47.42 | d9500 | debian sid here |
05:47.47 | darwin | it seems with that plasma thing I can have either the desktop with icons, or the taskbar, shown at once |
05:47.50 | darwin | but not at the same time |
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05:48.04 | darwin | well, KDE4 should work about the same on any distro, depending on minor version differences |
05:48.30 | d9500 | really? iirc, that icon isn't even available in arch's kde |
05:48.43 | d9500 | or perhaps it was chakra--it's been a while since i tried either |
05:49.16 | darwin | yes, really |
05:49.17 | d9500 | *not in the stock repos anyway..of course if it was arch i'm sure someone had an aur package uploaded |
05:49.32 | darwin | I maintain a different current GNU/Linux distro for some people here |
05:49.46 | darwin | KDE4 is about the same on each |
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05:52.41 | darwin | actually, I guess the taskbar is called the 'task manager' |
05:52.52 | d9500 | so..to be clear that we're talking about the same icon...this is the icon you can add to the plasma panel by right-clicking the panel, hovering your mouse cursor over "panel options" in the resulting menu, then over "Add Widgets" in the submenu that pops out when you hover over Panel Options..then searching for "Show Desktop" and double-clicking the only icon that displays in the search results? |
05:52.59 | darwin | apparently one can only see either desktop icons, or the task manager of open programs |
05:53.09 | darwin | yes, that is the one i added |
05:54.21 | darwin | on my PC the one with the dots is called 'show the activity manager,' so I had deleted it |
05:54.32 | darwin | but had put it back after you started talking about it |
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05:55.11 | darwin | I guess there are more differences in what minor things are there and what they are called, but the overall functionality is basically the same |
05:55.11 | d9500 | and when you click the Show Desktop icon (it looks like a blue rectangle with sqiggly lines on a dark blue background on mine)..instead of showingthe desktop..it does what?, instead of minimizing all open windows so you can see whatever icons you have on the desktop.. |
05:55.25 | darwin | it does show the desktop |
05:55.27 | darwin | but not with icons |
05:56.05 | darwin | I have added lots of icons to my desktop, except they seem to be in a separate dekstop called 'desktop icons' accessed with the icon with the dots you mentioned |
05:56.49 | darwin | I never really used icons elsewhere except the toolbar since about Windows 3.1... but now I filled up my panel and have to use the desktop |
05:57.10 | darwin | well, maybe I used desktop icons for a while in the late 1990s |
05:57.13 | d9500 | hmm..are you in folder view mode or default desktop mode? that is, when you right-click a blank area on your desktop, is the bottom option in the resulting menu "Default Desktop Settings" or "Folder View Settings"? |
05:57.34 | darwin | it just says 'desktop settings' |
05:57.45 | darwin | but that is the desktop without icons |
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05:58.24 | darwin | I guess when I added the icons I did not really know what I was doing |
06:00.02 | d9500 | I'm currently on Default desktop mode, and I can't add any icons to my desktop that way, not by the conventional way of right-clicking a blank area on the desktop and clicking "Create New." However, if I switch to folder view mode, I'm then able to add desktop icons using that exact method |
06:00.11 | d9500 | Default Desktop mode* |
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06:00.33 | darwin | I do not know what 'folder view mode' is |
06:00.41 | darwin | sounds like something I would rather do without |
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06:02.30 | d9500 | actually, it's just a fancy way of saying "show whatever is in X folder" where X can be any folder you specify..if you want Folder View to display a conventional good old fashioned desktop full of icons you can set Folder View's "location" variable to "Display the Desktop Folder"..and then you can add or delet icons freely |
06:02.57 | darwin | ok; great |
06:03.46 | darwin | it is working now :) thanks a lot, d9500! |
06:04.12 | d9500 | you're welcome, darwin |
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06:59.34 | dxist | hi! How can setup kwin to force window focus in current screen? When I switch activities focus goes to another screen. |
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07:06.15 | dxist | I found settings fot window behavior and resolved my problem. |
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07:35.04 | rindolf | Hi all. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318020 - can anyone help with that? « Desktop containment resets to default after upgrading» |
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09:10.05 | Blizzz | What I did that night: got a SSD, partitioned it, transferred all my data from HDD to SSD, adjusted fstab und grub, everything perfectly fine. Only: when I log in, kwallet does not take my password. I need to go to System Settings, disable KWallet, enable it again, then it will work (some apps need to be restarted). But I need to do it after every log in. Anything I could do about it? Checked some rc files for kwallet and kded, but there was nothing |
09:10.06 | Blizzz | suspicious. KDE 4.10.5 |
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10:01.54 | Sho_ | stack3457: QML 2 is part of Qt 5 |
10:02.40 | stack3457 | @Sho_ I have qt4.8 can it be upgraded to 5.0? |
10:02.59 | Verge | Two different things |
10:03.32 | Sho_ | stack3457: If your distro has Qt 5 packaged already you can usually install it next to Qt 4 |
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10:05.38 | stack3457 | so i should clone qt5 and build it ? |
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10:11.52 | Verge | no |
10:11.59 | Verge | Install it a as a ready package |
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10:48.27 | ilmenite | does kwin support compositing on two monitors? with one monitor set to the right of the other? |
10:50.04 | Sho_ | Sure |
10:51.39 | ilmenite | Sho_, so I can drag windows across the two monitors? |
10:52.06 | Sho_ | ilmenite: Of course (this also works without compositing) |
10:52.37 | ilmenite | i'm looking for the compositing because compiz doesnt support this, and i'm considering moving to kde now |
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10:52.47 | ilmenite | i like the effects |
10:52.59 | Sho_ | I'm surprised compiz doesn't support that, because I can't see a good tech reason for why it would be hard |
10:53.19 | ilmenite | well it used to be possible, with xgl |
10:53.24 | ilmenite | now it doesnt support it anymore |
10:53.32 | ilmenite | it breaks big time |
10:54.08 | Sho_ | Anyway, we currently support no compositing, XRender-based compositing and OpenGL-based compositing (which in turn has modes for OpenGL 2 and 3 and OpenGL ES), and all of those allow you to do multi-monitoring with dragging windows between monitors |
10:55.03 | ilmenite | Sho_, support no compositing? typo in there? |
10:55.28 | Sho_ | ilmenite: No, just bad phrasing - I mean a mode where compositing is disabled |
10:55.39 | Sho_ | in other words, compositing is still optional in KDE (but on by default) |
10:55.54 | ilmenite | ah okay |
10:55.58 | ilmenite | thanks :) |
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13:20.01 | AlexTalker7 | Hello! |
13:21.03 | AlexTalker7 | Can I use for each room individual widgets? including a panel? |
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13:29.29 | AlexTalker7 | Can I use for each room individual widgets? including a panel? |
13:29.48 | Sho_ | I don't understand your question |
13:29.50 | Sho_ | "room"? |
13:30.44 | AlexTalker7 | Yes,room |
13:30.57 | AlexTalker7 | desktop,rooms |
13:31.07 | AlexTalker7 | virtual desktop,rooms |
13:32.08 | AlexTalker7 | Understand? |
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13:32.37 | Sho_ | AlexTalker7: You can have different widgets for every virtual desktop, yes, but not a different panel |
13:33.37 | AlexTalker7 | No, not the desktop, and the room. |
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13:34.56 | AlexTalker7 | a rooms |
13:36.56 | AlexTalker7 | understand? |
13:36.59 | Sho_ | No |
13:38.09 | AlexTalker7 | The room can be personalized at your desktop? |
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13:39.24 | AlexTalker7 | No? |
13:40.48 | Sho_ | I'm sorry, I still don't know what you mean by "room". I thought you meant virtual desktop, but you said no. |
13:41.11 | lordievader | AlexTalker7: Are you talking about the Activities? |
13:42.09 | AlexTalker7 | J,ye |
13:42.13 | AlexTalker7 | O,yes |
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13:42.47 | AlexTalker7 | I have translated the room. |
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13:44.29 | lordievader | I wouldn't know though if you can have different panels on different activities. Sho_ probably knows ;) |
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13:44.46 | Sho_ | I think you can't |
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13:47.35 | AlexTalker7 | It's a pity. |
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13:51.49 | AlexTalker7 | I'll have to Contact as developers. |
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14:04.39 | Okitain | Hey, anyone tried compiling Choqok lately? |
14:04.58 | Okitain | I have a bizzare error in Cmake with it. |
14:05.21 | Sho_ | pastebin i guess? |
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14:06.11 | Okitain | http://pastebin.com/dzCMK53t |
14:06.42 | Sho_ | Okitain: imho that just means you don't have the devel package for kdelibs installed |
14:06.42 | Okitain | Yes, the appropriate dev kdelibs are installed. |
14:07.51 | arcspark | hmm. if cmake isn't finding them in their default installation directory then that's something you might want to ask about in your distro's channel. |
14:08.17 | Okitain | Do you know how to make it acknowledge new directories? |
14:08.46 | arcspark | as a kludge you could find the files cmake wants and echo them to your path |
14:09.02 | arcspark | but i'm not even positive that would work, and it definitely wouldn't survive between sessions |
14:09.03 | Sho_ | Okitain: Does 'ls /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake' output anything? |
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14:09.34 | Falcon` | can i somehow make dolphin show preview of images on network (cifs/smbfs) drive? |
14:09.51 | Falcon` | it politely refuses, which is reasonable, but i'd like to override this behavior somehow |
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14:10.15 | Sho_ | Falcon`: See the "Skip previews for remote files above X MB" setting |
14:10.26 | Sho_ | Falcon`: It's set to 0 by default = no previews for network file systems |
14:10.31 | Falcon` | um |
14:10.33 | Falcon` | where is it? |
14:10.46 | Sho_ | General -> Previews in the config dialog |
14:11.00 | Sho_ | below the list of preview types |
14:11.12 | Okitain | Sho_: it doesn't, but 'ls /usr/share/apps/cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake" does. |
14:11.22 | Falcon` | ok, i see it |
14:11.36 | Falcon` | yup, that solves it |
14:11.38 | Falcon` | thanks! |
14:11.48 | Sho_ | Okitain: OK ... hm, both should be found normally |
14:11.55 | Sho_ | Falcon`: happy to help |
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14:12.25 | rdieter | Okitain: if you happened to install the libs *after* running cmake initially, you need to remove CMakeCache.txt |
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14:14.43 | Okitain | rdieter: Thanks! I used the same folder for installing the packages for both Mageia and Ubuntu, so it wors now. |
14:15.05 | rdieter | Okitain: let me recommend doing out-of-tree builds then |
14:15.20 | rdieter | mkdir build-for-megeia; cd build-for-megeia; cmake .. |
14:15.41 | rdieter | then you can delete/recreate build-for-* as needed safely |
14:15.44 | Okitain | Seems reasonable. |
14:16.50 | Okitain | I'm kind of new to the whole shebang, since I only need to compile things when I need the latest versions. |
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15:40.13 | leo-the-manic | I've got a fullscreen Konsole window... How do I take it out of full screen mode? |
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15:40.34 | leo-the-manic | Ctrl+Shift+F opens the "Find" tool, I dunno if that's the correct key command or not |
15:41.03 | Sho_ | leo-the-manic: try alt+f3 |
15:41.07 | leo-the-manic | Also Ctrl+Shift+F11 isn't doing anything. I'm using Tmux if that makes a difference |
15:41.35 | leo-the-manic | Sho_: oooh nice, thanks! |
15:42.28 | leo-the-manic | Sho_: Apparently I set it to no border and forgot. I don't think I ever would've figured that out haha xD thanks for the help! |
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15:42.43 | Sho_ | leo-the-manic: no problem |
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15:58.09 | RoboTux | Hi there |
15:58.27 | RoboTux | Isn't there a memory leak for the object MarkAsCommand at line 38 of http://paste.debian.net/17096/ ? |
16:01.13 | thiago | RoboTux: no |
16:01.25 | thiago | RoboTux: that mParent argument looks like it's setting the parent |
16:01.44 | RoboTux | Oh yeah ok |
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17:42.31 | megaTherion | Really why is semantic-desktop existing? |
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18:05.13 | FLHerne | Evening |
18:05.53 | thiago | morning |
18:06.39 | FLHerne | :P |
18:06.42 | FLHerne | Does anyone know how to (is it possible?) to permanently hide Konqueror's status bar? The 'Show Statusbar' tickbox under the Settings menu seems to be local to each individual tab. |
18:07.01 | FLHerne | Is it meant to be, or is that a bug? If not, is there another way to do it? |
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18:11.42 | FLHerne | I've tried fiddling with 'View Profiles', but I don't really understand them |
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18:19.04 | SineTheCreator | hi all... i have a question. how well does KDE4.x run on older hardware? by older i mean something like a 2ghz sempron, 1gb of RAM, ati xpress x200m, and a crappy chipset (atix) |
18:19.11 | SineTheCreator | oh and debian 7.1 would be the base |
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18:23.09 | FLHerne | SineTheCreator: TBH, you might want to look at other stuff :-/ |
18:23.32 | SineTheCreator | FLHerne: okay. so it's probably not going to be a good option, eh? |
18:23.42 | FLHerne | SineTheCreator: It's fine on my Pentium D, but it eats lotsa RAM |
18:23.47 | SineTheCreator | ahh |
18:24.11 | SineTheCreator | well... crap :\ i really like trinity-desktop but i wanted something a little newer. |
18:24.53 | SineTheCreator | well, i'll install the kde-full package and see how it runs. worst case scenario, it runs terribly and i purge everything :D |
18:25.00 | FLHerne | You could always add more RAM, I haven't had any trouble with CPU load :-) |
18:26.40 | SineTheCreator | i'd add more ram if i had any, but honestly if i had the money to buy a 2GB stick of DDR for a laptop these days i may as well just save it and buy a faster laptop :D |
18:26.40 | EisNerd | could someone tell me where the kde menu is saved? |
18:27.15 | FLHerne | SineTheCreator: Oh, that old? :o |
18:27.19 | SineTheCreator | heh yeah |
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18:27.27 | SineTheCreator | this laptop was a $300 walmart special back in 2006 |
18:27.40 | SineTheCreator | i got it free from a friend. it had a dead hdd and i swapped in one of my spares |
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18:28.03 | SineTheCreator | it's an HP/compaq presario v5305wm |
18:28.15 | SineTheCreator | the term 'ancient' is close to being accurate |
18:28.27 | FLHerne | Hmm, my '05 desktop has DDR2 :P |
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18:28.55 | SineTheCreator | yeah, DDR in laptops survived well into the 00's because it was cheaper for quite a while. |
18:29.22 | SineTheCreator | but now laptops try to be comparable to desktops so everything is more in-line |
18:29.49 | SineTheCreator | i wish i had money, i'd almost sell my soul for a new laptop that didn't suck :/ |
18:30.03 | FLHerne | Except netbooks of course, which are still a decade out of date :-( |
18:30.09 | SineTheCreator | heh, yeah |
18:30.37 | SineTheCreator | funny thing - i have an hp mini 110 with an atom 1.6 n270 and 1gb of ram. it's faster than this thing at almost every task. |
18:30.40 | FLHerne | I was thinking that not long ago, finally scraped enough together to buy me an '09 Thinkpad :-) |
18:30.43 | SineTheCreator | but the screen is tiny. 10.1" |
18:30.52 | SineTheCreator | nice |
18:31.06 | SineTheCreator | used? refurb? |
18:31.34 | SineTheCreator | i really need to get a new laptop anyways. something that matches my desktop workstation. |
18:31.43 | SineTheCreator | it'd be nice to work wherever |
18:31.48 | FLHerne | Second-hand of a friend, £140. 12.1" screen, so not much bigger than a netbook |
18:31.56 | SineTheCreator | ahh. that's still a good deal |
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18:31.59 | EisNerd | yeah thinkpads are cool, I luckily got a W530 |
18:32.08 | SineTheCreator | any laptop that runs is worth ~$200 USD |
18:32.17 | FLHerne | EisNerd: Wow those things are expensive :P |
18:32.35 | EisNerd | yeah as replacement for my broken by design w510 |
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18:32.50 | FLHerne | would be rather keen on one given umpteen-thousand £ |
18:33.01 | SineTheCreator | thinkpads are more or less 100% linux compatible these days aren't they? |
18:33.14 | FLHerne | EisNerd: Is the new keyboard as bad as the diehards maintain? :P |
18:33.24 | rurkowce | thinkpads were linux compatible pretty much always? :v |
18:33.25 | EisNerd | SineTheCreator: the W series run from my point of view better with linux than with win7 |
18:33.28 | wgosling | EisNerd: /usr/share/applications and ~/.config/menus on my system |
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18:33.41 | FLHerne | SineTheCreator: No problems here |
18:33.46 | SineTheCreator | one cannot simply change the thinkpad keyboard |
18:34.01 | rurkowce | wat |
18:34.03 | FLHerne | Are there not issues with Optimus on the shiny new ones though? |
18:34.07 | EisNerd | FLHerne: no, it is great but some keys are missing that is a bit uncomfortable thats all |
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18:34.26 | SineTheCreator | rurkowce: eh, that depends on the thinkpad. i had a T21 i think, it had a pentium 3. most things were compatible but the NIC was a problem on almost every distro. |
18:34.33 | EisNerd | but typing is better especially the backlight is great when having imperfect light conditions |
18:34.51 | EisNerd | FLHerne: optimus works half the way |
18:35.04 | FLHerne | EisNerd: I rather disliked the one on an x121e, but dunno if that's comparable to the higher-end ones |
18:35.05 | EisNerd | but you have always the option to use only the dedicated |
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18:35.25 | SineTheCreator | i also had a T42 that was quite nice. vga died on that one :( |
18:35.27 | EisNerd | the bettery time is impressive |
18:35.35 | EisNerd | I have eysily ~8h |
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18:35.57 | FLHerne | EisNerd: I guess it beats an X4500HD by a country mile either way :D |
18:36.02 | EisNerd | with 16G ram and a 4 core i7 somehow extreme |
18:36.15 | FLHerne | Aw, I only get 4:30, and that's with the radios off :-( |
18:36.16 | EisNerd | the w530 is damn fast |
18:36.40 | EisNerd | and I'm still not at max, as I use to the 8G dimm two 4G dimms of my w510 |
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18:36.58 | EisNerd | I plan to go for 4 correct 8G dimms |
18:37.14 | EisNerd | guess it may give an additional boost of 10% |
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18:37.57 | EisNerd | I can compile everything in a ramdisk |
18:38.07 | EisNerd | especially nice for libreoffice |
18:38.18 | SineTheCreator | wow the W-series is actually reasonably priced for what you get |
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18:38.36 | EisNerd | yeah as student in germany about 1.800 |
18:38.42 | wgosling | I have a W-series at work. It is pretty sweet. |
18:38.43 | SineTheCreator | the current base model has an i7, 8gb of ram, and a 1080p screen for $125 more. total cost is ~$1350 |
18:38.45 | EisNerd | with fhd CAD display |
18:38.46 | SineTheCreator | that isn't bad |
18:38.48 | SineTheCreator | at all |
18:39.01 | SineTheCreator | the only drawback for me is the nvidia quadro |
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18:39.05 | xixor | which computer is this? |
18:39.16 | SineTheCreator | that's great for my video production work but i'd prefer a card that can do gaming well |
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18:39.49 | EisNerd | SineTheCreator: not really it is great for image post processing |
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18:40.22 | EisNerd | SineTheCreator: LOL you know that the geforce stuff is the bad production for quadro? |
18:40.42 | SineTheCreator | no, i didn't |
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18:41.07 | SineTheCreator | are you sure about that? i'm almost certain that the geforce and quadro lines are two totally different production lines |
18:41.09 | EisNerd | SineTheCreator: believe me evey CAD certified gpu loughs about lifting the gaming work of the comparable gaming gpu |
18:41.19 | SineTheCreator | eh, ok |
18:41.24 | EisNerd | the same for ati as for nvidia |
18:41.41 | SineTheCreator | in any case, if i were to get a new laptop anytime soon, that would probably be the one |
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18:41.45 | EisNerd | there are often problems with the memory channels |
18:41.49 | SineTheCreator | i bet it's OS X compatible as well |
18:41.53 | EisNerd | so the disable for geforce the half |
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18:42.07 | EisNerd | SineTheCreator: no due to missing certificate in efi |
18:42.16 | SineTheCreator | EisNerd: hackintosh. |
18:42.20 | FLHerne | Downside with NVIDIA stuff is the lack of proper drivers, of course :-( |
18:42.26 | SineTheCreator | zero f's are given about missing certificates |
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18:42.44 | SineTheCreator | FLHerne: on which platform? |
18:43.00 | FLHerne | SineTheCreator: Linux, of course... |
18:43.05 | EisNerd | FLHerne: hm it works well enough |
18:43.25 | SineTheCreator | FLHerne: ahh. well, my usage targets would be OS X 10.8.x (for FCPX) and Windows 7/8 for everything else |
18:43.32 | SineTheCreator | i wouldn't be too worried about nvidia performance in linux |
18:43.36 | EisNerd | anyway, btt could someone tell me where the files for kde menu are located? |
18:43.42 | EisNerd | SineTheCreator: it is great |
18:43.59 | EisNerd | but I mainly use the k1000 for darktable |
18:44.08 | EisNerd | this was the job killing my w510 |
18:44.16 | FLHerne | SineTheCreator: It's not the performance, it's the ability to make it play well with overcomplicated display setups |
18:44.17 | EisNerd | darktable opencl has boiled the gpu |
18:44.30 | SineTheCreator | ah |
18:44.32 | EisNerd | FLHerne: no problem |
18:44.47 | SineTheCreator | FLHerne: shouldn't that be fairly easy to do with xrandr? |
18:44.57 | EisNerd | FLHerne: or, well currently I'm in optimus mode, so I can't use my external ports |
18:45.21 | FLHerne | Try getting either proprietary driver to work well with multiseat, with a portrait and landscape screen for each seat :P |
18:45.21 | EisNerd | but on my w510 which has only the nvidia it where working perfectly |
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18:45.32 | FLHerne | If you make it work with fglrx, tell me :D |
18:45.33 | EisNerd | FLHerne: on a laptop? |
18:45.44 | EisNerd | nah fglrx is a pita |
18:46.05 | EisNerd | nvidia is a lot more comfortable |
18:46.16 | FLHerne | EisNerd: Indeed. I had a Quadro a couple of years back though, that was a PITA too |
18:46.33 | EisNerd | I expect for every greater release more xranr 1.4 capabilitys |
18:47.25 | wgosling | EisNerd: Menus are under /usr/share/applications and ~/.config/menus on my system |
18:50.18 | EisNerd | wgosling: thx |
18:50.29 | EisNerd | maybe someone should update documentation |
18:50.33 | EisNerd | http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/KDE_Filesystem_Hierarchy |
18:51.48 | EisNerd | uh and where are the .desktop files? |
18:55.18 | SineTheCreator | FLHerne: heh... 100% cpu usage pegged |
18:55.48 | FLHerne | SineTheCreator: Ooh, great :P |
18:55.54 | SineTheCreator | memory usage is okay, but x.org is super hungry |
18:56.04 | SineTheCreator | it's using 25-50% of cpu on it's own D: |
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18:56.36 | SineTheCreator | it's too bad, it sure looks nice :( |
18:56.52 | FLHerne | Have you turned off file indexing? |
18:57.07 | SineTheCreator | no |
18:57.23 | SineTheCreator | compositing is also on. i'm sure that isn't helping things |
18:57.23 | FLHerne | Assuming Debian has KDE < 4.10, do :P |
18:57.35 | SineTheCreator | nah, this is 4.8.x |
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18:58.41 | EisNerd | yeah ram is coool, I have run a find over my huge home half a hour ago |
18:58.53 | EisNerd | no idea how long it has needed |
18:59.10 | EisNerd | now I've done another find it has only needed some seconds |
19:00.04 | SineTheCreator | how do i disable nepomuk? |
19:00.08 | SineTheCreator | it is using tons of cpu |
19:00.59 | cb400f | usually you just want to disable indexing.. or you'll cripple a bunch of apps |
19:01.04 | cb400f | and it's done in systemsettings |
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19:01.42 | SineTheCreator | thanks |
19:02.01 | EisNerd | thx I found what I was looking for |
19:02.20 | SineTheCreator | hmm |
19:02.26 | SineTheCreator | i can't find it in system settings |
19:02.39 | EisNerd | now I have enough space, to take down all the pictures of my little daugther :) |
19:02.51 | EisNerd | dslrs are bad |
19:02.59 | cb400f | hint: look for "desktop search" |
19:03.02 | EisNerd | filling harddisks is so easy |
19:03.03 | SineTheCreator | ahh i found it, under desktop search |
19:03.06 | SineTheCreator | thanks |
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19:06.50 | SineTheCreator | i'll stick with trinity. this is nearly unuseable :( |
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20:23.26 | Aiena | Does anyone know how to enable pulseaudio monitors |
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20:25.21 | BluesKaj | Aiena, monitors ? do you mean audio input and output settings ? |
20:25.59 | Aiena | BluesKaj I want to allow audacity to receive input directly from my soundcard |
20:26.06 | Aiena | I could do that easily on xfce |
20:26.13 | Aiena | but I am struggling to figure it out on KDE |
20:26.15 | Aiena | any idea |
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20:27.36 | BluesKaj | have you checked your alsamixer settings and installing pavucontrol will help solidify your input and outputs as well |
20:28.07 | Aiena | will pavucontrol work properly side by side with kmix etc. |
20:28.17 | BluesKaj | Aiena, yes |
20:28.22 | Aiena | ok |
20:28.24 | Aiena | will try |
20:28.47 | BluesKaj | Aiena, are you familiar with alsamixer ? |
20:28.55 | Aiena | a bit |
20:29.01 | Aiena | i run it from terminal |
20:29.01 | BluesKaj | ok , good |
20:29.06 | BluesKaj | yes |
20:29.15 | Aiena | and can choose my soundcard settings from there |
20:29.20 | Aiena | but advanced I dont know |
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20:30.09 | lordievader | Aiena: Do you want to record the output of your soundcard? Or am I missing something? |
20:30.29 | Aiena | yes output of my soundcard |
20:30.31 | Aiena | directly in audacity |
20:31.06 | lordievader | Aiena: Then this might interest you: http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/Tutorial_-_Recording_Computer_Playback_on_Linux |
20:32.12 | BluesKaj | in system settings>multimedia>phonon>device preference , choose you soundcard from the list and run the test , move it to the top click apply , then choose apply device list to |
20:32.18 | BluesKaj | and apply |
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20:34.05 | doublep | hello. is it possible to disable mouse pointer location function activated with ctrl+win? |
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20:38.46 | Aiena | lordievader thaks a lot |
20:38.53 | Aiena | the link was helpful :) |
20:39.02 | Aiena | It led me in the right direction. |
20:39.05 | lordievader | Aiena: No problem, glad I could help. |
20:41.41 | BluesKaj | goodol' audacity , nice to see ppl still using it :) |
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20:51.23 | Aiena | BluesKaj Its much more powerful than it looks. It doesn;t have the fanciest UI but it is fantastic and getting the job done. |
20:51.47 | Aiena | BlueKaj had to tweak alsamixer too to get the optimal results |
20:52.06 | Aiena | but now I have acheived my objective so I'm happy. |
20:52.47 | Aiena | I;ve been looking for a solution for ages. |
20:52.57 | Aiena | thanks a million BluesKaj, lordievader |
20:53.18 | lordievader | Aiena: :) |
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20:53.56 | Aiena | hmm but there is now a minor issue |
20:54.08 | Aiena | I am able to record in audacity from my soundcard |
20:54.14 | Aiena | but there is no audio playback |
20:54.38 | Aiena | audacity is working as its supposed to. THe signal is getting lost somewhere else. |
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20:54.49 | Aiena | I know its not an audacity bug. |
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20:56.59 | willybilly0101 | hi, I get $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server. |
20:57.04 | willybilly0101 | when doing startkde |
20:58.16 | Moviuro | willybilly0101: did you login as user? or su - user ? |
20:58.27 | willybilly0101 | as user |
20:58.33 | willybilly0101 | KDM does not start either |
20:58.35 | Moviuro | also, is the X server on? |
20:58.45 | Moviuro | willybilly0101: do you get a XTerm ? |
20:58.49 | willybilly0101 | startx shows similar eror |
20:59.00 | Moviuro | willybilly0101: Which distro are you using? |
20:59.03 | willybilly0101 | (EE) |
20:59.03 | willybilly0101 | Fatal server error: |
20:59.03 | willybilly0101 | (EE) no screens found(EE) |
20:59.06 | willybilly0101 | #archlinux |
20:59.10 | willybilly0101 | :) |
20:59.14 | lordievader | Aiena: I have done a similair thing in the past, though I have forgotten how. I believe there was some feed-monitor button/switch. |
20:59.24 | willybilly0101 | journal looks fine |
20:59.35 | Moviuro | willybilly0101: you should ask on their channel: it seems X related |
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20:59.48 | Moviuro | willybilly0101: did you follow the guide? |
21:00.09 | willybilly0101 | found the error |
21:00.12 | willybilly0101 | wow |
21:00.14 | willybilly0101 | thanks |
21:00.27 | Moviuro | Did I help? ^_^ |
21:00.34 | willybilly0101 | I added by mistake .. in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf |
21:00.34 | Moviuro | And how did I help? |
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21:00.45 | willybilly0101 | yes, you help with xserver |
21:00.55 | willybilly0101 | it was simple but I was stupid |
21:01.03 | Aiena | lordievader I think so theres an audacity issue |
21:01.05 | Moviuro | well, if everything is back into order :) |
21:01.11 | willybilly0101 | thanks |
21:01.16 | Aiena | I think PA is not detectibting audacities o/p |
21:01.21 | willybilly0101 | going in GUI too much console :) |
21:02.45 | lordievader | Aiena: In Audacity the output is directed toward PA? In pavucontrol do you see the playback meter for Audacity jumping around? |
21:03.14 | Aiena | actually there is no audacity listed in pavucontrol |
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21:03.17 | Aiena | in general |
21:03.21 | Aiena | all output |
21:03.31 | Aiena | is shown through the alsa plugin option |
21:03.39 | Aiena | that meter moves if i play from youtube etc |
21:03.41 | lordievader | Aiena: Then the output is not routed to PA. |
21:03.59 | Aiena | then what to do |
21:03.59 | lordievader | Aiena: Check the audio settings withing Audacity. |
21:04.41 | Aiena | lordievader in audacity hos is ALSA playback device is my card itself |
21:04.45 | Aiena | *host |
21:05.01 | Aiena | I remember when I was in xubuntu there was a PA option within audacity |
21:05.19 | lordievader | Aiena: There should be. |
21:05.25 | Aiena | in kde suse I am mot finding that option. |
21:05.40 | Aiena | but recording is directly working |
21:05.50 | Aiena | I don't know it it is recording dorectly through ALSA |
21:05.50 | lordievader | Aiena: Haven't got it installed here, so I cannot play around with it/check things. |
21:06.19 | Aiena | lrod the alsamixer capture settings seem to affect recording. |
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21:06.38 | Aiena | so I guess its taking data directly from ALSA |
21:06.49 | Aiena | but PA should take data sent to ALSA too right |
21:06.58 | Moviuro | Is there an option to click through a window in KDE? I remember it being speaken of... not sure if inKDE or some extra KWin script/effect |
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21:08.18 | lordievader | Aiena: No, ALSA is what PA uses underneath. Or that is the way I understand things. |
21:08.27 | Aiena | ok |
21:09.24 | Aiena | ON xubuntu I never had problems had to shift to suse because kubuntu has too big fonts (: |
21:09.31 | Aiena | and I needed KDE |
21:09.33 | lordievader | Aiena: An old Ubuntu help doc says that you need to select "ALSA: pulse" in the Audacity settings. |
21:09.34 | Aiena | for kde apps |
21:09.41 | Moviuro | Also, is there a way to always have a preloaded instance of the Konsole ? |
21:09.47 | Aiena | there is no alsa pulse |
21:09.54 | Aiena | thats the oddest thing |
21:10.07 | Aiena | in other distro i had a device called "pulseaudio" |
21:10.17 | Aiena | which is not showing up at all on opensuse |
21:10.34 | Aiena | I coudl choose between pa and ALSA |
21:11.31 | lordievader | Aiena: I'm going to install it on my Kubuntu machine, see how things are these days. You can ask around in #opensuse (if such a channel exists). Since this is a more distro specific topic. |
21:11.40 | Aiena | wait |
21:11.46 | Aiena | I think so got it sorted out |
21:12.10 | Aiena | switching to default device automagically fixed pklayback in audacity |
21:12.14 | Aiena | something funny had happened |
21:12.41 | Aiena | lordievader suse was totally mum |
21:12.48 | Aiena | I tried asking in multiple channels |
21:12.58 | Aiena | untill you gave me the right pointers |
21:13.02 | lordievader | Aiena: Interesting, under host only ALSA is available. Under device however there is a 'pulse' option. |
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21:13.28 | Aiena | actually I think uder host only ALSA should be there |
21:13.52 | Aiena | as for pulse yeah no pulse but it all seems to work well |
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21:15.15 | Aiena | maybe buntu has put the pulse option |
21:15.16 | lordievader | Aiena: When setting the host to ALSA and the device to pulse Audacity shows up under pavucontrol running under the Alsa Plugin. |
21:15.55 | lordievader | Aiena: Perhaps you may need some audacity-pulse package or something. |
21:16.05 | Aiena | probably |
21:16.15 | Aiena | maybe buntu istalls it side by side |
21:16.22 | Aiena | along with audacity |
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21:18.29 | lordievader | Aiena: Perhaps, or it is included in the base package. |
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21:28.06 | Aiena | maybe |
21:28.26 | Aiena | but it seems to be something of buntu and maybe that tut was made from a buntu distro. |
21:28.49 | Aiena | But I;ve got everything to work well on suse without the pulse option with your pointers |
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21:29.14 | Aiena | so wether it is there or not there does not make a difference :) I have acheived the goal with your help. |
21:29.30 | Aiena | Night lordievader . take care. |
21:29.33 | Aiena | *whether |
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21:38.44 | basic6 | Is there a better alternative to the KDE apprunner? Not sure what to look for, not sure how such a program is called (Alt + F2 in pretty much all DEs). KDE's apprunner is way too slow (takes forever to show up) and sometimes has to be clicked (enter doesn't always work for some reason) |
21:39.58 | Moviuro | basic6: it's called krunner and... basically does everything (even your tea!) |
21:40.13 | Moviuro | http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/Krunner |
21:40.40 | Moviuro | basic6: depends on your machine though... and version of KDE (it's been slugish until 4.8 IIRC) |
21:40.57 | inkjetunito | good evening. when clicking the toolbox thingy on the desktop, the appearing menu has some sort of a current selection highlighter. it's slowly following the cursor. is there a way to make it faster or disable it? |
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21:42.16 | basic6 | Moviuro: krunner - thats it, thanks. i often run cpu intensive processes, so simple things like krunner take forever to show up. then it starts to fade this menu in whenever i type something. granted, it's pretty, but all i want is a textbox where i type a command, that's fast |
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21:43.07 | Moviuro | basic6: how about konsole in background-mode or yakuake? (I never have used any other runner than krunner ;) ) |
21:43.45 | Moviuro | inkjetunito: toolbox thingy is not quite understandable, please precise :) |
21:44.07 | basic6 | Moviuro: plus there's that buggy behavior that enter won't work if i typed while the menu was fading in |
21:44.08 | Moviuro | is reading krunner's handbook... pretty much he didn't know! |
21:44.16 | basic6 | Moviuro: i'm already using guake |
21:44.58 | Moviuro | basic6: with a "g" init, it doesn't sound quite KDEish... ;) but that's not the trouble. I'm sorry I can't help you basic6 |
21:45.06 | basic6 | don't get me wrong, i love KDE and like most things in KDE, krunner looks really nice. but it's just too slow. |
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21:47.26 | unutulmusolan | hi i have problems with calibrating a wacom(cintiq) tablet. Active area bigger than screen so i cant calibrate correctly |
21:47.37 | unutulmusolan | can someone help me? |
21:48.15 | inkjetunito | Moviuro: upper right edge http://imgur.com/TQ97raD |
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21:49.10 | Moviuro | basic6: well, I don't find so :> |
21:49.39 | Moviuro | inkjetunito: nope, nothing you can change |
21:49.52 | Moviuro | unless you modify your plasma theme and edit some svg files |
21:50.42 | inkjetunito | Moviuro: i'm annoyed because of the delay. i'm quite sure the highlighter could move faster it was allowed to |
21:51.25 | Moviuro | inkjetunito: move your mouse slowlier... ;þ |
21:51.34 | inkjetunito | Moviuro: heh. thanks |
21:51.45 | Moviuro | inkjetunito: how often do you use this menu? |
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21:52.08 | basic6 | ok i found something called synapse (ctrl+space), it's faster and it even looks pretty |
21:52.15 | inkjetunito | Moviuro: not that often, but same kind of highlighting is being used in the application launcher menu |
21:52.32 | Moviuro | inkjetunito: it's plasma's theme one |
21:52.54 | inkjetunito | Moviuro: interesting. thanks |
21:52.58 | shumski | inkjetunito: what are you trying to achieve? |
21:53.48 | inkjetunito | shumski: faster browsing inside the application launcher menu |
21:54.08 | shumski | inkjetunito: ok. that is not related in any way to plasma theme |
21:55.49 | inkjetunito | shumski: is it related to the slowly moving highlighter in the screenshot above? |
21:56.28 | shumski | inkjetunito: plasma themeing is related to colors, appearence, etc, but not how fast it goes |
21:56.54 | Moviuro | nah, that's no application launcher ><" |
21:57.11 | inkjetunito | shumski: i see. ty |
21:57.46 | inkjetunito | Moviuro: yes, that's not the application launcher menu. it's just another example |
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21:59.25 | Moviuro | inkjetunito: use the "classic menu", the one depending on your Qt theme: |
21:59.43 | inkjetunito | Moviuro: yup. that's what i use :) |
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22:00.40 | Moviuro | so why ask about the other one (kickoff)? http://wstaw.org/m/2013/07/20/plasma-desktopDXe435.png |
22:02.39 | inkjetunito | Moviuro: because that's a small distrurbing detail. i'm trying out a beta :) |
22:03.08 | Moviuro | inkjetunito: remind me to ask for more details next time I try to help ;) |
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22:03.18 | Moviuro | basic6: you could try to disable krunner's plugins |
22:03.32 | inkjetunito | Moviuro: ok |
22:03.33 | Moviuro | basic6: click on the Wrench, untick any useless things |
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22:05.40 | zipper | What does this mean? Bell in session 'Shell' It popped up as a notification in KDE. |
22:06.32 | inkjetunito | Moviuro: this is the first version of 4.x that i've used for longer than a hour of two. works great, finally :) |
22:07.11 | Moviuro | zipper: you tried to go to high or too low in the shell |
22:07.21 | Moviuro | (Shift+PgUP/DOWN) |
22:07.39 | Moviuro | these usually make a "bell" ring |
22:07.56 | Moviuro | inkjetunito: hopefully you're using one of the latest...? |
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22:09.14 | zipper | Moviuro I was using vim and was scrolling to the bottom so at the time so I guess I understand. |
22:09.17 | volty | hi, my plasma-active-imageviewer shows garbage when opening pictures |
22:09.22 | volty | any idea how to fix this? |
22:09.57 | Moviuro | never got how it worked... |
22:10.12 | Moviuro | zipper: yes, this happens to me too |
22:10.39 | inkjetunito | Moviuro: yeah. shouldn't be more than few weeks old |
22:10.59 | zipper | So it's not KDE specific? |
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22:11.09 | Moviuro | inkjetunito: It would be bad to ask for support for KDE 4.0 ;þ |
22:11.11 | zipper | Moviuro |
22:11.29 | Moviuro | zipper: I think it's specific to Konsole, yes |
22:11.56 | zipper | Oh I get it now. Thanks |
22:12.32 | Moviuro | zipper: Konsole is pretty clever ;) lets you open links, paste things, among others |
22:12.52 | Moviuro | but I never took the time to check all its capabilities |
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22:14.29 | Moviuro | Oh my, krunner is so versatile... it's awesome :) (well, no, it's KDE but still...) |
22:14.53 | Moviuro | OK guys, going to sleep |
22:15.21 | Moviuro | good night and good luck for those still having some troubles ;) |
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22:19.31 | killown | someone help me, kde is not working right with twinview it see two monitors as one screen, that's pretty much a bug, when I maximize a window it will be extended on both monitor |
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22:41.40 | killown | please? I am trying to fix that for ages |
22:41.52 | killown | and seems that kde is not good for multi monitors |
22:42.10 | killown | not only kde, gnome too |
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22:52.27 | sam113101_ | killown: works just fine for me |
22:53.03 | killown | sam113101_, twinview mode? |
22:53.55 | sam113101_ | no |
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22:57.27 | killown | my problem is with twinviewmode |
22:57.35 | killown | using separated screens it will work |
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23:15.19 | mmargoliono | i use tvinview and have no problem |
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23:24.59 | killown | mmargoliono, three monitors? |
23:25.17 | killown | I have 3 |
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23:37.09 | camulus | mmargoliono: what is TV in view? |
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