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00:37.01nasserI have newly created activity and I ran a command in konsole. Then I stopped the activity. When I start the activity again, konsole starts a new session. Is it possible to make konsole continue running the command before stopping the activity? or at least re-run the command again. Thanks
00:38.01nasserI'm running KDE 4.10.5 on linux mint 15
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01:43.21guru_/home/usrname/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/ /tor1/torrent: how do I get rid of this error?
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02:29.28TynachIs there a channel for KDE on Windows?
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02:54.48JucatoTynach: try #kde-windows
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03:37.11roastedIs it possible to get full exchange integration in kmail?
03:37.15roastedcalendar, contacts, mail, etc?
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04:31.45TynachHello! I'm using KDE on Windows, but I can't figure out how to change the theme. There is no 'systemsettings'.
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07:11.33trusktr_Hey guys. Is this the official KDE IRC channel?
07:11.58bonsaikittenno, it is a cheap chinese clone.
07:12.05trusktr_oh.
07:12.06trusktr_lol
07:12.11bonsaikittentrusktr_: ZAT WAS A JOKE
07:12.21trusktr_sweeeeeeeet
07:12.25Jucatoofficial English user support channel, yes.
07:12.38JucatoIRC channel I mean.
07:13.05trusktr_I've been a Gnome fan, but now with Gnome screwing things up, removing features, Gnome Shell being slow as heck, and KDE supporting QML (QML!!!!!!) I'm gonna try KDE.
07:13.50trusktr_I can't wait to edit my desktop QML/JavaScript files and press refresh.
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07:18.44Jucatodon't expect too much yet in the current release. stuff on the "desktop" (meaning "workspace") is still in the process of transition towards a more QML-powered architecture. it's currently still based on QML1/QtQuick 1.x, for example. and some parts/widgets, especially 3rd party ones, are still in C++ (though please note that even in the next major release, the underlying parts will still be written in C++ as they should be. but the user-facing parts
07:18.46Jucatowill be QML).
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07:52.45trusktr_for sure.
07:52.51trusktr_Tanks for the info.
07:52.54trusktr_WHat are kioslaves?
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08:00.20prootyhello. is there a command line way to add a folder to Places in dolphin?
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08:24.22Henryxhi all
08:25.02Henryxanyone knows problems with samba and filelight (it shows a directory size different than real size)?
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08:36.06WalexHenryx: there is something like that, as the block sizes can be different. Vague memory of that.
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09:02.17HenryxWalex: so, filelight can't analyze the file size, but the block size...
09:03.06WalexHenryx: it might be that the sizes reported are in different units from what filelight expects
09:03.17Henryxok
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09:07.25prootyhello. is there a command line way to add a folder to Places in dolphin?
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09:09.52jdmaxping kde - where is the appropriate place to specify KDEWM?
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09:12.43jdmaxHow does one specify another window manager under kde?
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09:13.50Jucatojdmax: try System Settings -> Default Applications -> Window Manager
09:14.20jdmaxtries
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09:15.14jdmaxJucato: "Use a different window manager" is grayed out ... :(
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09:17.39Jucatoi guess it didn't detect any other window manager installed? if you're looking where to set KDEWM, I think it should be put in a script (with name ending in .sh) in ~/.kde/env/
09:17.58jdmaxJucato: Will try that thanks
09:18.32Jucato"export KDEWM=something" in the script I think
09:18.52jdmaxJucato: OK. Then restart X?
09:19.14Jucatohm ... maybe just login and logout would be enough
09:19.34Jucato(or yeah, restart X after logging out)
09:19.38jdmaxtries this
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09:27.07jdmaxJucato: Works just fine!
09:27.12jdmaxJucato: Thanks!!!
09:27.20jdmax:)
09:28.02Jucatogreat!
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09:32.24EisNerdI have send two message to kile-devel list about an issue resulting from the last commit to scm, but looks this list is somehow low on activity and till now my message aren't passed approval
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09:33.10EisNerdso maybe I could notice someone in charge this way
09:33.14EisNerdanyway
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09:36.38kidxany one know why my desktop and panel crash and disapear?
09:36.53kidxi am on 4.11 beta 2
09:37.10kidxminus this issue i am fine?
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09:41.24Jucatokidx: it could have crashed for any number of reasons and it would be impossible to guess unless you remember the last thing that you did and/or you have a backtrace (presuming a window appeared informing you that the desktop crashed). anyway, if it's still not reappearing, press Alt+F2 and then type in the box that appears at the top of the screen "plasma-desktop" and press Enter
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09:43.17kidxok thanks its running fine now
09:43.19kidxweird
09:43.49Jucatowhat was the last thing you remember doing before it crashed?
09:44.00kidxis 4.11 beta 2 the latest version
09:44.15kidxif not what is the latest I would like to test it if possible
09:44.37kidxI just want to help make a clean DE for gaming
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10:41.18DarkSim_Hello! :)
10:42.29AlexTalker7Hello!
10:43.09DarkSim_Anyone have time helping me with a newbie thing? :(
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10:45.57AlexTalker7DarkSim_: Are you a beginner?
10:46.42JucatoDarkSim_: don't ask to ask, just ask. if anyone is around or has time to help, he or she will reply.
10:47.20DarkSim_Im pretty much a beginner, Ive been using elementary luna for quite some time and I decided to give kubuntu 13.04 a chance
10:48.13DarkSim_I remember that I may have made 2 partitions so I could seperate the home partition and save tons of stuff if I installed a new distro, but now I honestly dont know if I have or not, so I want to make sure I wont lose the data when I install kubuntu
10:50.16DarkSim_what I have found myself so far is that my home folder on the system drive to be empty and in the root directory of the other bigger drive I find my personal folder and lost+found
10:50.26EisNerdDarkSim_: as this becomes higly installer specific, I would guess, better asking in ubuntu channel
10:50.55EisNerdyes this indeed sounds like two seperate partitions
10:51.24DarkSim_but when I use tons of commands to look it up I see nothing telling me its home mounted
10:51.36EisNerdbut when they reside on the same disk, you have to take care, that only one, and especially the right partition is reused
10:51.38DarkSim_but it also doesnt tell that the system drive has a mountpoint either
10:52.00EisNerdlook in system drive /etc/fstab
10:52.17EisNerdthis file normally lists all static mounts
10:52.19DarkSim_Can I do that from a live USB?
10:52.22EisNerdyes
10:52.32DarkSim_Since im in the Kubuntu live USB right now
10:52.38EisNerdjust use less to make sure, not to break anything
10:52.44DarkSim_I think just writing /etc/fstab doesnt work
10:54.12EisNerdmaybe you could reorder you partitioning to have an additional system partition and install kubuntu system there, then you could go back if it doesn't please you
10:55.00EisNerdbut thisis really a ubuntu specific matter and I could just give you some general help, as I never really used ubuntu nor its installer
10:55.15DarkSim_Ok, thanks for the help
10:55.29EisNerdso I would recommend you to join #ubuntu and ask there
10:56.06Basstard`Or #kubuntu ?
10:56.43EisNerdas they should be a lot more informed about the possibilities to install ubuntu, afaik there is an installer setting to install ubunut aside an existing linux, maybe if it is there, it maybe the right choice for you
10:57.24EisNerdBasstard`: no idea if this channel ecists and how aktive it is
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10:58.22Jucatothe channel exists and it is the proper channel to go to if you're using kubuntu
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11:10.19mahdi_jahi all
11:10.25mahdi_jai use fedora 19 kde
11:10.47rindolfmahdi_ja: hi.
11:10.55mahdi_jawhen i login to my user and when i open dolphin file browser i get this error
11:11.58mahdi_jaerror launching /usr/share/application/kde4/dolphin.desktop .either klauncher is not running any more or it fail to start the application
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11:12.34mahdi_jaand i can not ope windows driver or shutdown system form menu and do it form command prompt
11:14.20mahdi_japlease help me
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11:23.30rindolfmahdi_ja: let me see.
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11:23.56rindolfmahdi_ja: can you run dolphin from a konsole command line?
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11:26.43EisNerdmaybe some ressource exhausted? disk full? I have had a lot of strange errors in such circumstances
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11:29.40EisNerdyes indeed
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12:30.36kidxis there any preformance tweaks i can do to opengl or KDE to gain a preformace boost in game?
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15:43.50Cyb3r-Assassinhaving some network brows ability issues in KDE with samba after updating and not sure whos to blame here. outlined my problem here http://pastebin.com/VR03g9YR
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15:58.21Cyb3r-Assassinupdated view this one http://pastebin.com/9KkKDyKV
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18:21.12El_Jack0any one know how can I put off the notifications desktop element?, it doesnt have normal control buttons, cant be moved to a new position, and if closed it will open again on new notifications
18:21.31El_Jack0or at least move it to a more convenient place
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19:01.04MichaelPWhat is a good replacement for gweview ?
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19:02.13ompaulMichaelP: I use digikam a fair bit
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19:03.11MichaelPI want something closer to eog.. eye of gnome... But lately that been sucking under kde
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19:03.44MichaelPnomacs no to bad
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19:20.03rindolfMichaelP: maybe try fotoxx
19:20.26rindolfMichaelP: though I am pretty happy with gwenview.
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19:52.53p\mageKonsole has a bug in KDE 4.10.5
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19:53.21p\mageI have a \ in my short user name and it says: "pmage : bash" in the tab title, not "p\mage : bash"
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19:53.52p\magealso check this screenshot, another bug
19:54.00p\magehttp://ln-s.net/-ZIs
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19:56.33p\mageon the bottom, konsole
19:56.48p\magesame font and font size in both the top terminal (terminator) and konsole
19:57.03p\magewhy does KDE seem so buggy to me?
19:57.07p\mageto me it's the little things
19:57.36p\mageanyways, I got to go
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20:00.00toskyp\mage: same font, and same antialiasing options?
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20:03.12AfterDarkEhhh despite the bugs... it's still the best DE out there. :P
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20:34.37MoviuroAfterDark: bugs? where bugs? ;)
20:34.56MoviuroIs there a way to get the google+ notification on the plasma desktop?
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20:36.46AfterDarkhaha
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20:38.59Moviurooh, and COME ON: stop that crap with 'Network error (3)'. Tell me WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON!
20:40.17Moviuro(GHNS, KDE 4.10.5, archlinux x86_64, connected to internet -obviously)
20:41.10wgoslingMoviuro: Please contact your systems administrator
20:41.42Moviurowhat for? debug info should be displayed for me...
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21:29.27wgoslingfyi: Videos of the Akademy talks are available at http://akademy2013.kde.org/
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22:13.27Cyb3r-AssassinI cant view any clients or servers on my network after upgrading to kde 4.10.4 from 4.10.2. Windows clients can see my computer though system is running samba 4.0.6
22:15.06Cyb3r-Assassinif I use smb://server in dolphin like used to it says invalid protocol. What does it need now?
22:15.29AfterDarkMaybe it's just giving you it's opinion on samba
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22:16.18Cyb3r-AssassinAfterDark: but samba is installed RC is happy and windows boxes see and logon to this box via network tab
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22:16.29AfterDarkHmm.
22:16.44AfterDarkI don't really know. I've had so many horrible/unexplainable experiences with samba that I don't know what to say.
22:16.48toskyCyb3r-Assassin: the kio-slave which provides support for the smb:/ protocol in kdelibs-based applications is missing
22:16.50toskythat's it
22:17.18Cyb3r-Assassinkde-base/kdebase-kioslaves
22:17.26Cyb3r-Assassinnstalled versions:  4.10.4(4)^t(17:28:12 07/21/13)(bzip2 handbook lzma samba sftp -aqua -debug -exif -openexr)
22:17.53Cyb3r-Assassinits built with samba
22:18.34toskyCyb3r-Assassin: here on Debian, kio_smb is part of kde-runtime
22:18.49Cyb3r-Assassintosky: I'm on gentoo
22:18.55toskythe same
22:19.04toskykde-runtime is the upstream module
22:19.13toskycheck how the package was split in gentoo
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22:19.40Cyb3r-Assassinso ur saying where ever the package was split needs to be rebuilt
22:20.27Cyb3r-Assassinkde-base/kdebase-runtime-meta and kde-base/kdepim-runtime
22:20.35toskyI have no idea how gentoo works, and usually no, as kdelibs guarantees binary compatibility
22:20.42toskyno, kdepim-runtime is another story
22:21.44Cyb3r-Assassinugh I just rebuilt kdelibs with +samba -zeroconf and hour ago so its not there. look into kio_smb more?
22:22.19toskyI suggest to ask on gentoo channels
22:22.31toskyand again, it's not kdelibs
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22:24.47Cyb3r-Assassintosky: im asking and trying thanks
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22:46.01Cyb3r-Assassintosky: samba4 wont work with kioslave cmake won't find the headers
22:49.03toskyprobably it has not been ported and you need smb3 headers
22:52.37Cyb3r-Assassintosky: im going to downgrade for now. I've wasted so much time figuring out what happened to a working setup now I really dont have the time to try an patch the headers
22:52.55toskyI guess it's not trivial at all
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22:53.47Cyb3r-Assassinfew things are in linux
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22:54.53trusktrI'm trying out KDE, but I'm having some bugs with the panels. :(
22:56.15trusktrWhen I was moving a plasma widget on the panel, a pop up network error notification appeared for the weather widget, causing me to lose the control of the plasma widget. Now it's stuck on the panel behind another panel and I can't right click it or drag it or anything.
22:56.42trusktrI feel like the only way to fix it is to first remove the widget that's in front of it, or move it, just to be able to fix the widget I was moving.
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22:58.50trusktrThen, after logging in, the pager widget is moved up half way, so only the bottom half appears in the panel, the top half chopped off.
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23:08.22RichiHrunning kde 4.10.5 on a x1 carbon with linux 3.10.1 on debian unstable, the battery widget breaks every time i hibernate
23:08.49RichiHit will be stuck at whatever charge status it was when the machine frist resumed
23:09.00RichiHeven though acpi -V shows everything just fine
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23:56.38rdieterRichiH: what does upower say?
23:56.56rdieterie, output from: upower --dump ?
23:57.08rdieterthat's basically what kde uses
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