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00:12.19AciD`hey
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00:14.00AciD`after a diskfull error, I lost my user defined places in dolphin and other applications. I used a backup and copy pasted the ~/.kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/bookmarks.xml file back when my user wasn't using kde, but somehow when I relaunched a kde session, the bookmark.xml file gets replaced by the faulty one. How can I fix that ?
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00:55.53GiGaHuRtZI do a lot of testinf of KDE upcoming stuff and gfile bugs (4.11RC's, Project neon, etc). But is anyone running KDE is Wayland with XWayland?
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00:56.40GiGaHuRtZIm asking because i am looking at this distro thats based on kubuntu current, using wayland with qt and gtk etc compiled for wayland but also using Xwayland for apps that wont work in wayland
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01:41.50chakbohi codev ... I am just hanging out here, I really don't know much, just saying hi
01:42.07codevchakbo: same.
01:42.20chakboI'm hoping to learn more though .... just by hanging around channels like this :)
01:42.27codevjust learning about KDE. i just switched from GNOME a couple weeks ago.
01:42.41chakboyeah ... I was actually with kde some years ago
01:42.44codevI most use fluxbox for work, but I really do need more for file management and stuff like that.
01:42.52chakbobut had switched to gnome after novell bought suse
01:43.03codevhaha true
01:43.05chakbothen I went with other distros and gnome for awhile
01:43.22chakbobut .... chakra ... has a nice setup and the newest kde is pretty sweet
01:43.24codevYeah - well.. I'm using mostly Gentoo..and they hate GNOME 3.
01:43.28codevyeah, i hear you on that.
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01:43.54chakbobrb ... phone business
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02:16.59faemircan anyone tell me if it's possible to remove the window title text from kwin?
02:17.56thiagono
02:18.03thiagoyou can remove the entire frame if you want
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02:18.34faemirthiago: how do I do that?
02:20.31thiagotwo ways:
02:20.53thiago1) select a window decoration style that matches your wishes. See kde-look.org to find more than those that are already installed.
02:21.01thiago2) Alt+F3, Advanced, No border
02:22.54faemirSo the title text is actually part of the theme itself?
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02:24.38thiagothe window sets a property that says what the title is
02:24.45thiagothe window manager displays it (if it wants to)
02:25.24faemirAnd whether it wants to is governed by the theme?
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02:25.54thiagoyes
02:26.07thiagoand whether you set the No Border setting
02:26.34faemirSo could I not just grab the oxygen kwin theme and remove it display the title bar and call it oxygen-notitle?
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02:28.53EnsifolkProbably a lot of people come in here everyday to ask ' What's the best KDE Distro ' - Anyway, as a Linux Newbie, I have tried different dekstops and KDE turns out to be my favorite. But I have no clue yet on which KDE distro to settle - First I can't yet tell what's the difference between a KDE with Debian, or KDE with Arch, or KDE with Gentoo - What are really these different basis for a linux
02:28.54Ensifolkdistro ? - To be honest Im interested in a STABLE and EYE CANDY Distro, so what should I kick-off with to get myself set? ( Current state choice is : Chakra )
02:30.53faemirthiago: I'm a little lost where to find the default oxygen theme stuff - user downloaded ones seem to be svgs + a text file, but the aurorae folder in /usr/share has qml stuff?
02:31.08thiagofaemir: sorry, I don't know where it is
02:31.26faemirEnsifolk: there will be little difference if any between distros implementation of KDE, you should look at the features of the distro, then just install KDE.
02:31.39faemirthiago: np, thanks for the help
02:32.25Ensifolkfaemir : Because in a review, I heard him say - Hey if you want Debian, just Debian with KDE, and if you want Arch, then Debian with ARCH - ANd then I was like how can you choose between Debian or Arch? What makes up the choice ? Dang..got lost
02:32.40EnsifolkSorry then KDE with Arch or KDE with Debian*
02:32.52faemirEnsifolk: well yeah it's the same as firefox. It's the same on debian as on arch
02:33.03EnsifolkTrue that.
02:33.05Ensifolkheh :)
02:33.32faemirNewbie to linux then use kubuntu, stability debian, bleeding edge + getting your hands dirty Arch (has a fantastic wiki)
02:33.44faemir(imo)
02:33.56EnsifolkI see.
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02:34.27EnsifolkAny opinion about Chakra ?
02:34.44faemirsort of defeats the point of arch to be honest
02:34.56faemirand because you didn't build it yourself, when/if something goes wrong, you won't know how to fix it
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02:35.39EnsifolkAlright, so I better go with Kubuntu considering my current state.
02:36.11faemirjump into #kubuntu they should be helpful
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02:36.48EnsifolkAlright. Thank you man.
02:37.08faemirnp
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03:00.16alfonsojon_Hi, is there a way to change which apps handle which protocols in KDE?
03:00.33alfonsojon_I'm using KDE 4.11 RC and I can't find anywhere to use a custom program to launch magnet links.
03:02.46alfonsojon_I currently have transmission-qt and I would like that to handle magnet URLs rather than KTorrent
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03:13.25taglassalfonsojon_: what browser?
03:13.34alfonsojon_Chromium
03:13.50taglasshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/108925/how-to-tell-chrome-what-to-do-with-a-magnet-link looks to be what you need
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03:14.38alfonsojon_So I have to edit the .desktop for it? :/
03:15.04taglassnope.  use xdg-mime to make the assosciation
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03:15.23alfonsojon_Oh, nevermind
03:15.25alfonsojon_Saw the reply
03:17.20alfonsojon_Do I need to restart the session?
03:17.36taglassabsolutely no clue.  sorry
03:17.45alfonsojon_alright thanks anyways
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03:26.39alfonsojon_Any suggestions on how to set Qtransmission as the default magnet protocol handler with xdg-mime?
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04:16.47faemirusing gmail via kmail, is there a way to stop it from saying I have 3 new emails when it's jus 1, counted 3 times in inbox, all mail, and important?
04:26.36Phr33d0mfaemir my solution to that with thunderbird was to stop fetching all those folders, now I only fetch "inbox"
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08:02.57Costeelationhi is possible disble kdewallet for wifi at startup?
08:03.44Costeelationwhen i start session asked me for the password for read the password of wifi connections
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09:12.09dnivraAh okay guess not.
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09:50.11AciD`after a diskfull error, I lost my user defined places in dolphin and other applications. I used a backup and copy pasted the ~/.kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/bookmarks.xml file back when my user wasn't using kde, but somehow when I relaunched a kde session, the bookmark.xml file gets replaced by the faulty one. How can I fix that ?
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11:03.38BluesKajHiyas all
11:07.04rindolfBluesKaj: hi.
11:07.07rindolfBluesKaj: what's new?
11:07.47BluesKajhey rindolf , not much here , and you ?
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12:58.49grntCan anyone help me with plasma theming?
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15:49.43enkiduhello. is it possible to set Konsole size to fixed 128x48?
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15:51.45Moviuroenkidu: Select konsole, put it to the right size
15:52.08Moviuroenkidu: Alt+F3 > more actions > application specific settings
15:52.36Moviuroenkidu: Size & Position > Size > Force initially > the good values are activated
15:52.44Moviuroenkidu: apply, done
15:53.24enkiduMoviuro: it is workaround, as I dont want to have fixed window size in pixels, but fixed size in chars
15:55.02Moviuroenkidu: sounds like something terrible to me... you'll get some distorted char... not sure if it is possible
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15:55.45Moviurosince it heavily depends on the font you're using...
15:56.57enkidufor me best solution would be writing own terminal that connects to screen session and opens all virtual windows as one tob
15:57.02enkiduseparate tabs*
15:58.25BluesKajenkidu, not sure but won't 'activities" help with that ?
15:58.54enkiduBluesKaj: how?
16:01.01BluesKajenkidu, not sure , I saw some users discussing acivities with screen sessions , but I they didn't mention how to set it up
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19:33.49Arkhana_Hey guys, I have a laptop for free without hard disk. The graphics of KDE are fine, but if I add about 6 widgets to Workspace 1 and open a program like Konqeror, my laptop will crash completely
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19:34.45Arkhana_It has in a live-session only 20 mb ram remaining when having no widgets and no program (except Konsole)
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19:35.13Arkhana_If I would insert a harddisk, would a swappartition be sufficient?
19:35.26rdieterArkhana_: you definitely want at least some swap
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19:36.00Arkhana_Yes, that's why I want to buy a hard disk
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19:37.12Arkhana_rdieter: And if I would use some, will that be slow too?
19:37.36rdieterslow swap is better than crashing, no?
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19:38.51Arkhana_rdieter: And since I have a harddisk, I have to use live-versions and I'm fed up with setting up again and again, so a disk with swap will be just what I need
19:40.11Arkhana_My point is: will a heavly personalized (2 to 6 widgets, 5 workspaces) will work fine with 1 gig RAM and 2 gigs swap?
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20:02.07MoviuroArkhana_: depends if Nepomuk, Akonadi, effects are all running full power at the same time...
20:02.21Moviuroplasma desktop itself is not that much RAM consuming
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20:06.52mahdi_jahi all
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20:07.04mahdi_jabut i have a problem with it sometimes when i login to kde panel not wrok i can not access to windows partition and get error alt+f2 not work and shutdown menu and other not work also
20:07.15mahdi_jaand i have to shutdown system form command or physical
20:07.20mahdi_japlease help me
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20:23.56oleowho did kcalc ?
20:24.29oleoin the programming/logic mode i dunno if it's a bug or so
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20:25.02oleowhen i try to get 15 converted to -15 (sign conversion) bitpattern changes are weird
20:25.05oleobut ok
20:25.21oleobut when i try the same pattern manually i get something different or so...
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20:38.27thiagooleo: what do you mean?
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20:38.59oleodoing the sign conversion and displaying the bitpatterns in programming/logic mode
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20:39.15oleotrying 15,-15, 14, -14
20:39.23oleoand trying them manually....
20:39.25thiagook
20:39.29thiagoand what's wrong?
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20:40.02szicariGreetings. Anyone here familiar with the KDE Network Connections application? I'm having trouble using it for openconnect.
20:40.08szicariOr *with openconnect, rather.
20:40.14thiagoszicari: it works for me
20:40.18thiagousing openconnect
20:40.32seanzthiago: Excellent! Perhaps you can help me figure out what I'm doing wrong...?
20:40.43thiagoseanz: perhaps
20:40.49seanzthiago: I added myself to the plugdev group and logged out/back in.
20:40.57seanzI can open it without a problem.
20:41.12seanzI can create a new openconnect connection and set options.
20:41.19seanzWhen I go to save it, I get this error:
20:41.48seanzLaunch helper exited with unknown return code 1
20:42.10seanzI'm guessing it's having trouble connecting to an openconnect daemon or something, but I'm unclear about what it should be connecting to.
20:42.12seanzthiago: ^ ^ ^
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20:43.52seanzthiago: Any thoughts so far? How did you set up openconnect apart from the network management software?
20:46.16thiagoseanz: never seen that, sorry
20:46.22thiagowhen I set it up and save, it works
20:46.34thiagodo other network settings change take effect?
20:46.40thiagodo you use kwallet?
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20:48.23seanzthiago: I do use kwallet. I'm on Gentoo, also. That probably has something to do with it (i.e. something needs to be set up that isn't).
20:48.28seanzthiago: What distro are you using?
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20:50.45thiagoseanz: Fedora
20:51.09seanzthiago: Ah. Most likely all the background stuff has been set up already then.
20:53.33thiagoyes
20:53.47thiagobut it should be the same backend stuff as the rest of NetworkManager
20:54.15seanzthiago: Agreed.
20:54.45seanzI think my issue goes deeper than what can be covered here. My network interface fails when I start up networkmanager.
20:54.58thiagothat looks like NM wasn't properly installed / configured
20:55.07thiagomy experience with it is: let the distro do it and don't touch it.
20:57.05seanzthiago: That seems wise about now.
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21:17.46michaelroseanyone using kde 4.10 and unable to minimize anything to system tray?
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21:26.45seanzthiago: Figured it out. Thanks for the help.
21:27.19thiagoseanz: what was it?
21:27.33seanzthiago: A couple of things. First: my setup was correct.
21:27.53thiagogood
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21:28.57seanzI wasn't running the networkmanager BECAUSE my Ethernet connection stopped working.
21:29.16glaukommatosDoes anyone know how to make Kmail use an IMAP Prefix? I can't figure it out for the life of me.
21:29.49seanzIt stopped working because I had some whack settings that were screwing things up.
21:29.58seanzthiago: Once I fixed that, I had Internet access again.
21:30.00seanzTHEN...
21:30.09seanzI needed to run the KDE network Plasmoid.
21:30.15seanzOnce I did that...everything started working.
21:31.22seanzFor the VPN side, I set up the connection, defined my routes and ensured that only traffic for that route goes over the VPN. Otherwise, traffic goes out to the Internet directly.
21:31.25seanzSuccess story.
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21:32.59seanzGood day, gents.
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21:34.24mdikhi. what is best linux distribution to showcase kde? still kubuntu?
21:35.00mdik(live-usbstick)
21:35.18rdieterglaukommatos: kmail doesn't support imap prefixes, afaik
21:36.20glaukommatosrdieter: Well, I suppose that explains pretty well why I can't figure out how to configure one. I thought I saw a snippen of a kmailrc file that had a Namespace directive, but maybe it was for a different version or something.
21:38.07rdieterglaukommatos: I recall a bug about it, I'm looking for it now
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21:38.57glaukommatosrdieter: You're a saint.
21:39.55rdieterglaukommatos: i think this is it https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=292285
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21:42.43glaukommatosHmm, interesting. That's basically the same issue I have. Gmail loves to put everything under [Gmail] for some odd reason, and usually I can specify a namespace so that [Gmail]/. becomes the root as far as my client is concerned. Maybe I'll just have to try running another client or start filing feature requests. :p
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