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00:15.53konqoroHello, I have found a bug in tab "Information" of dialog "Properties for <file>", it has to do with nepomuk not saving the changes. So question: in which product should I fill the bug report, dolphin, nepomuk, kdelibs?
00:16.33PovAddictI'd choose dolphin, someone with more knowledge can always change it later
00:17.08konqorook thanks!
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01:26.32NorbertosHi there
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01:27.13NorbertosI can't compile Dekorator as there isn't any configure or makefile.
01:27.37NorbertosI've read both readmes and install too, but they didn't tell me anything usable about instlall
01:31.20PovAddictNorbertos: what linux distro do you have?
01:32.07NorbertosPovAddict: I have Korora 19 Bruce - Nearly similar to Fedora 19 Schröedinger's Cat
01:33.12PovAddictisn't dekorator in the package manager?
01:33.58NorbertosNo, I looked up of course ...
01:34.14NorbertosAnd I've read Dekorator is not avaible since Fedora 16
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02:07.36Basstard`How to assign mousebuttons to whatever I want?
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02:09.04thiagoBasstard`: not with KDE tools
02:09.16thiagothe mouse actions are hardcoded by each application
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02:13.32Basstard`thiago: The same way keyboardshortcuts are?
02:15.55CounterPillowYou can define shortcuts using mouse buttons, I believe
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02:18.20Basstard`I want to remove/change paste with the middlebutton. But also would like full control to change any button/action.
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02:26.16thiagoBasstard`: keyboard shortcuts can be configured throughout KDE
02:26.24thiagoeach application has Configure Shortcuts in the Tools menu
02:26.39thiagothat allows configuring even global shortcuts
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02:27.47Basstard`thiago: Then why not the same for mouse?
02:27.55thiagobecause it wasn't done like that
02:28.21thiagomice are a lot harder to configure. Did you just mean click? Double click? Click-and-hold? How about dragging?
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02:29.02thiagoanyway, only keyboard shortcuts can be configured now
02:29.17thiagono one is working on implementing mouse actions
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02:29.26thiagothere used to be a mouse *gesture* configuration back in KDE 3
02:29.32thiagoit still exists in KDE 4, but it doesn't work
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03:46.46the_gamerhi folks, i need to transfer my ktorrent to another machine. with id and all torrents. i copied ./.kde4/share/apps/ktorrent/*, ./.kde4/share/config/ktorrentrc ./.kde4/share/config/session/ktorrent* ./.ktorrent.lock
03:46.58the_gamerbut the ktorrent on the other machine still shows up nothing
03:47.02the_gamerwhat am i missing?
03:47.07thiagoyou definitely don't need the lock
03:47.14thiagothe session files neither
03:47.41thiagois it the same distro on the other version?
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03:48.36the_gameryes
03:48.54the_gamersame distro, same version of the programs
03:49.19the_gamerthe other ktorrent shows up nothing. no torrents, nothing
03:49.34thiagodid you copy the ktorrent tmp dir?
03:50.03the_gamerwhere is it?
03:50.09thiagodepends on your config
03:50.16the_gameri wrote down everything i copied
03:50.24the_gamerso how to find out?
03:50.33thiagoright, but I don't know if it defaults to ~/.kde4/share/apps/ktorrent/
03:50.39thiagoopen ktorrent, look at its config
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03:51.55the_gamerwhere to find it? sry, i only find where to save the downloaded files
03:52.36thiagoopen the ktorrent config, search the temp and save dir
03:52.43thiagothen copy everything in those dirs
03:53.26the_gameri am just doing grep -ril ktorrent .kde4
03:53.49the_gamernothing i didn't already copy showed up
03:53.50thiagothat won't find it
03:54.07thiagoopen ~/.kde/share/config/ktorrentrc, look for the saveDir and tempDir
03:54.10thiagothen copy those dirs
03:54.39the_gameryou mean kde4?
03:54.57thiagonot on my distro
03:55.06thiagoI just typed the file that works on my distro
03:56.33the_gamersaveDir=$HOME
03:56.33the_gamertempDir=$HOME/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/
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03:56.44the_gamerso i copied .de/share/apps/ktorrent
03:56.46the_gamerdid nothing
03:56.57the_gamerstill nothing in the ktorrent on the other machine
03:57.29thiagook, then I don't know
03:58.31the_gameroh wait, that was stupid m(
03:58.39RingtailedFoxdid you try re-starting KDE?
03:58.41RingtailedFoxor ktorrent?
03:58.50the_gamerthe problem was that ktorrent was running in the background and so not reloading the config
03:58.55the_gamerdidn't notice
03:58.59the_gamersorry
04:00.09the_gamerand thanks a lot :)
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07:08.40RemuzWhen I change mouse theme it works, but after relog cursor theme resets to oxygen when I move cursor outside application windows. How to fix that?
07:09.05Remuztried to reset theme, apply another whan and switch back but doesn't work
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07:10.25Remuzin kcminuprc the correct theme is set
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09:01.30dxistHi! I have dualhead setup. How can I setup keyboard keybindings to move windows between screens?
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09:02.44dxistI looked through kwin global keybindings and found options for workspaces only.
09:03.02JucatoI see "Window to Screen #" from 0 to 1
09:03.18Jucatowhat KDE version do you have?
09:03.59Jucatoyou can use the Search field to help narrow down the items
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09:07.40dxistwell probably it's a problem of translation. I have russian locale.
09:11.01dxistJucato: do you have "Window to workspace/virtual desktop #"?
09:11.35Jucato"Window to desktop #"
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09:12.04Jucatothen below those are the "Window to screen #"
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12:22.23gsedej_workHi! Is there any widget for detailed CPU graph (with I/O wait, sys, usr, idle) like in gnome/unity http://i.stack.imgur.com/2MPU0.png
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13:02.17Michael_JJhello, does anybody know where is the config file of JuK music player, i selected at first start the whole home dir and now I wait 10 minutes to fully load the songs, is there any way that I can reset to defaults the player?
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13:03.49rindolfMichael_JJ: did you try killing it and restarting it?
13:04.57Michael_JJrindolf: yes I kill it, but every time it scan the home dir
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13:05.41Sho_Michael_JJ: ~/.kde/share/config/jukrc
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13:07.04rindolfSho_++ # Helping Michael_JJ
13:08.53Michael_JJthank you Sho_
13:09.10Michael_JJthanks rindolf
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13:45.55Remuzif I change mouse cursor theme to something else it works until relog when it changes to default Oxygen theme when hovering over windows decorations or desktop. Themes seems to have been installed correctly in ~/.icons.
13:46.06RemuzHow can I fix that?
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13:49.07seanzHey. Can anyone tell me how I can execute a CLI program and have it automatically open a konsole window to run in?
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13:51.50DaZseanz: konsole --help
13:51.52DaZsrsly :v
13:52.40seanzDaZ: Genius. Thanks.
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13:57.02shevyis there a simple way to start konsole with 5 tabs opened?
13:58.52DaZkonsole --help
13:58.54DaZ:v
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13:59.40oleosave your konsole session
13:59.48shevyyes DaZ I did that, what next
13:59.53shevyoleo ok
14:00.10seanzshevy: Peruse the help options and determine the command(s) you need to run.
14:00.10DaZshevy: i'd go with --tabs-from-file
14:00.23shevyhmmmmmm
14:05.31DaZcommand:/bin/bash;;profile:Shell
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14:06.13PoenikatuCan anybody tell me which file invokes kwin?
14:06.32shevyah
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14:06.44shevyDaZ I tried with command:/usr/bin/konsole and wondered why that did not work
14:07.13shevyworks now, thanks everyone, especially DaZ
14:07.18DaZyw
14:07.24DaZPoenikatu: elaborate? ;v
14:07.49oleokded ?
14:07.50oleokdeinit ?
14:08.14PoenikatuDaZ: I am used to using a different window manager. So I need to find where kwin is invoked so that I can change the window manager.
14:08.47DaZPoenikatu: you can change it in systemsettings->default application
14:09.23PoenikatuUnfortunately, I've tried that and kwin is the default and the system settings program does not allow me to change it.
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14:11.13DaZit does stuff in ksmserverrc
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14:12.41PoenikatuDaZ: which is where?
14:12.56DaZ~/.kde probably ;v
14:13.57PoenikatuDaZ: So it is. TVM :-)
14:13.58Sho_Poenikatu: startkde does (and already has support for what you want to do by setting KDEWM to some other executable)
14:14.17JoeSomebodyis there a kde (or even non-kde) skype for linux alternative? microsoft ruins everything they touch, big surprise huh
14:14.27DaZi forgot about this for some reason ._>
14:14.30DaZ.
14:14.32Sho_Poenikatu: put a xyz.sh file into ~/.kde/env/ (create if necessary) and put "export KDEWM=/parh/to/wm" in there
14:14.56PoenikatuSho_: Will do. Ta.
14:15.01Sho_yw
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14:15.20GomexHi guys
14:17.47GomexUsing Dolphin, how can I auth my user of local domain ?
14:17.53GomexDomain/username ?
14:18.02Gomexor username@Domain ?
14:18.39DaZiirc this windows domain stuff uses \ instead of / ;v
14:18.48PoenikatuSho_: The wm is usually called using a terminal so that it can provide a command prompt for instant access commands. Where should I put the invoking command?
14:19.02DaZPoenikatu: KDEWM variable
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14:20.29PoenikatuDaZ: Ok, I'll log out and see what happens when I log in again. Ta ta for now.
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14:20.54Sho_No idea what he meant
14:21.01Sho_wm providing a command prompt?
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14:21.40DaZmaybe his wm runs as cli too or something ._.
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14:25.30Sho_waves at Leoneof
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14:33.52jonkriCan KMail handle one SMTP server for one account, and another SMTP server for another? I don't find a way to configure this. (KMail 4.10.5, Fedora)
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14:39.33rdieterjonkri: yes (it is configured by identities)
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14:41.45jonkrirdieter: Ah! I looked for it there, but I somehow missed the Outgoing Account item. Thanks! :-)
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14:42.27rdieterjonkri: it hides in the Advanced tab, yeah. :)
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15:44.21seanzAny opinions on the best audio backend to use? I'm using gstreamer currently.
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15:44.30seanzThe whole audio setup is seemingly complicated.
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15:47.13DaZgstreamer is pretty good
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15:49.58DaZaudio architecture on linux is pretty complicated ;v
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15:50.44seanzDaZ: That's what I've noticed. I'm trying to get a handle on it. Do you have any experience with Jack?
15:50.53DaZnope.
15:51.00DaZwhy would you need jack? :v
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15:52.55Dan39can i easily edit a widget's code?
15:53.33Dan39or maybe somebody can just tell me easier way to change the temperature sensors widget from displaying F to C
15:54.34Dan39kde 4.10.5 on opensuse
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15:56.16Dan39hey i actually got it to change \o/
15:56.28Dan39but that was in system locale settings
15:56.41Dan39i want F for my weather and all, but not for my cpu temp :P
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16:29.30seanzDaZ: Sorry about missing your question.
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16:29.50seanzDaZ: I am just not familiar and like the concept of streaming audio over a network. So mostly for experimentation.
16:30.07seanzI'm looking for the easiest setup and management with features.
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18:58.16AmadiroAnybody have a clue what the "default" button in notifications does? Clicking it seems to do nothing, for the few notifications I have tested. Is it just showing up because the application didn't associate some kind of action with the notification?
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19:05.07AmadiroOllek, when you right-click and select "Open with" it gives you the option to always open with your selected application, if that's what you want
19:05.49Ollekdoesn't work here.
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19:07.10AmadiroOllek, you don't get the option, or do you get the option but it doesn't correctly remember your choice?
19:07.29Ollekit doesnt remember my choice
19:07.41AmadiroAh. Don't know why, sorry.
19:08.29Basstard`Ollek: File associations?
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19:09.18OllekBasstard`: tried that to
19:10.07OllekTo many quirks in kde. Quess it's something cache *"#¤.
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19:16.57Ollekwhere are the mimetypes stored in .kde4?
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19:39.19Basstard`Ollek: You really tried changing file associations?
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19:59.26MoviuroHi all! Is there a way to export/import all KDE settings at once? (systemsettings, Kontact, konversation, kopete etc.)
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20:06.07Ollekcp .kde4
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20:19.49wgoslingYesterday people were talking about how scrolling over the system tray icon form kmix would change the volume by a large increment. Anybody have the solution they found?
20:22.32Moviurowgosling: VolumePercentageStep=1 in ~/.kde4/share/config/kmixrc under [Global]
20:23.01Moviuronow scroll over kmix is around 5* 1
20:23.13Moviuroand basic increment is ~1
20:23.27Moviuroyes, sounds strange. Is so, though
20:23.32wgoslingthanks
20:24.16MoviuroOllek: nope, there are some sockets and some machine specific names
20:25.02Moviurowgosling: how about decreasing the "scroll power" of the mouse ?
20:25.19Moviuroie put 1 instead of 3 lines to scroll for 1 step ?
20:27.15wgoslingMoviuro: I don't think there is a solution for copying all settings. I know a couple devs talked about it in a KDE Tea Time, but that doesn't mean anybody is working on it.
20:27.42wgoslingMoviuro: I have the scroll power on 3, then set the increment to 1.7, which multiplies to 5.1 which rounds down to 5 :)
20:28.11Moviurowgosling: really? It works? Didn't expect that xD
20:28.34Moviurotoo bad for the settings...
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21:13.26OzBornehello
21:13.34OzBorneive a problem with kde under fedora
21:13.43OzBornedoes someone using fedora around
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21:13.55OzBornei cant install/uninstall the kde environment group
21:14.18OzBorneNo environment named KDE Plasma Workspaces exists
21:14.38jordanmthe #fedora channel is probably a better choice for that kind of issue
21:14.43OzBorneim banned
21:14.50jordanmthat's not a KDE problem, it sounds like a package mangement issue
21:15.06OzBorneyes
21:15.24jordanmOzBorne: why are you banned?
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21:15.38OzBornelets say trollinh
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21:32.23OllekI still have problem with the xml file associations not getting stored.
21:32.56Ollek4.11 by the way
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21:37.36OllekIn kde settings: I go in to file associations, find xml, move kate to the top of the list and click apply. When I check it afterwards, nothing is changed. What to do?
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21:39.07shumskiOllek:  wait 4.11.1, or apply upstream commit yourself (kde#321706)
21:39.28Ollekso it's a known problem?
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21:39.58shumskiyes
21:40.07Ollekok. thanks
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21:40.42Ollekcan I edit a rc file manually to fix it temporary?
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21:46.21aPpYecan someone point me to an explanation of the differences between kwin and kwinactive?  Is kwinactive what gets installed in the netbook gui?
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22:17.58maxamillionthere's a page that redirects properly in Konqueror using the WebKit kpart but rekonq just sits there ... anyone have any ideas why that might be?
22:18.58vijay13can someone plz help to solve this error I get while building kstar: http://pastebin.com/yDcnkLEb
22:21.39DaZvijay13: maybe try cmake .. instead ? ;v
22:23.30vijay13#DaZ same error :(
22:23.59toskyvijay13: did you install kdelibs development packages?
22:24.04vijay13yes
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22:24.14toskyalso, the build directory should be outside the source directory
22:24.20DaZdunno, it builds for me ;_;
22:24.20vijay13kdelibs5-dev
22:25.35vijay13#tosky yes build directory is outside
22:28.49shumskiit can't be the same error. you're pointing to kstars/kstars instead of kstars
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22:29.19toskyyes
22:29.30toskyvijay13: you created the build directory inside the source directory
22:29.53kstarBTW, we have, in KStars, the terrible habit of having kstars and kstars/kstars
22:30.05DaZorly
22:30.21kstarvijay13: If you're building, make sure you're in the top-level kstars directory, and not in kstars/kstars
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22:33.04vijay13#kstar oh Done :-)
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