IRC log for #kde on 20131002

00:00.43oldlaptopgives nepomuk another chance
00:00.58oldlaptopat least it uses a positive nicevalue while pegging the CPU now
00:01.09oldlaptopdon't recall it doing that when I turned it off
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00:01.37msxoldlaptop: what version of kde are you running? in 4.11.1 nepomuk is sleeeeek
00:02.36oldlaptop4.10
00:02.46oldlaptopturned it off in 4.8 for pegging a whole core for no good reason
00:02.54oldlaptopall the stinking time
00:03.10msxoldlaptop: in .11 is a whole another history, you will love it
00:03.12Sho_yeah, i actually really like Nepomuk these days (4.11) ... I use the "Video" query in Dolphin all the time, nice way to get all videos sorted by date no matter what folder
00:03.25Sho_if you don't notice it performancewise anymore, it's nice for the extra value
00:03.25oldlaptopit does that again it goes again, nice -19 or no :P
00:04.02msxSho_: totally! and for the people that works with lot of files daily, having nepomuk integration is a *must*
00:04.27Sho_msx: have you tried milou yet?
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00:04.58msxSho_: nope, i don't know what is that, lol, give me a sec to look at it
00:05.45Sho_msx: it's a new nepomuk gui for plasma, similar to the spotlight popup in os x
00:06.13msxSho_: no way, awesome!!!
00:07.01Sho_git glone git://anongit.kde.org/milou :)
00:07.08msxhere it is, a mail thread titled "introducing milou"
00:07.34msxSho_: oh well, you went ahead, thanks, i'm gonna clone it right now
00:08.00msxwhat i've been playing with is the new nepomuk-qml applet, it's shaping really nice
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00:09.30msxso milou is a side project from vishesh, nice
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01:50.28setuidThis doesn't seem to work for FC19: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-workspace/kdm/configuring-kdm.html#kdmconfig-users
01:50.34setuidI'm trying to disable the userlist
01:51.50setuidIs there some other way to disable the user list from kdm?
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01:59.13setuidah, I foun dit
01:59.55setuidOn the Convenience tab.. had to set the "Preselected User" to "None"
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02:07.54rdietersetuid: that's different from userlist, fyi
02:09.04rdieterbut glad you found what you wanted eventually
02:10.25setuidYep, it's in two places, updating my blog now with screenshots to accommodate
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07:07.39NilliI just installed KDE 4.10.5 and I'm trying to change the initial size of the application launcher menu by opening it, pressing Alt+F3 and then setting Position and Size in the "special window settings" or "special application settings".
07:08.13Nilliwhen I changed the settings in "special window" it didn't seem to stick, because I'd close the launcher and then open it again and it would still be small, but changing it in "special application" seemed to work.. until..
07:08.34NilliI opened up my calendar by clicking the clock in the bottom right, and the calendar ended up with the same size and position as the application launcher D:
07:09.04NilliI can't figure out how to tell the two windows apart, they're both called plasma-desktop it seems and I don't know which rules I can use to affect the application launcher only
07:11.30Jucatoyou can resize the application launcher (or most plasma popups) by dragging the corners. but you might have to remove that special window/application settings you made first
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07:13.32Nilliif I resize it that way it won't stick. if I close the launcher and open it again it's still its default size.
07:14.33Jucatoit sticks here. I'm on 4.11 now but it has always stuck in 4.10 too if I remember correctly
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07:15.01Nillihm..
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07:16.08Nillihm, I removed the special application settings and it's still the bigger size.. gonna reboot and see what happens :)
07:16.38Jucatoi did say you have to remove those settings first ...
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07:23.16Nilliresizing the launcher didn't stick between reboots, so I'd need something more permanent than that
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07:29.44Nilligonna go look at my older KDE install and see how I solved this there.. brb
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07:36.00Nilliapparently I had issues in my older KDE too, just didn't remember it.. by setting only the Size in "special application settings" I get my taller application launcher as desired, unfortunately my calendar gets out of proportion too. nothing to do about it, they're identical as far as the window detection can tell.
07:38.04skraitokde
07:38.08skraitodo you have
07:38.18skraitoqt documentation properly
07:38.23skraitowe gonna code windows
07:38.31skraitowe throw away fedora
07:38.36skraitoexcept redhat 5
07:40.56Nilliskraito: perhaps http://api.kde.org/ or http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtdoc/
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07:42.08skraitonah
07:42.19skraitowe really code windows nilli
07:42.24skraitowe use their gui
07:42.33skraitoyour lead code 170.000
07:42.37skraitofor document
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07:42.43skraitoafter that qt is all your
07:42.45skraitoafter that qt is all yours
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08:42.51MarkRSChrome has trouble with kde on Fedora?
08:44.06MarkRSI'm running kde under F19. Chrome won't display. It's running, but its main thread reports its parent as kdeinit4, and says it's "running"
08:44.19MarkRSIs it KDEs fault it doesn't display?
08:44.25marcdeopMarkRS: kill it and run it from a terminal
08:44.33marcdeopsee if says something
08:46.45MarkRSmarcdeop: Thanx. It says
08:46.47MarkRSerror while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
08:47.07Jucatosounds like you had an update gone wrong somewhere
08:47.54MarkRSjucato: directly to do with Chrome, or just the system in general?
08:48.01Jucatosystem
08:48.44MarkRSI've not seen anything, but I wouldn't be surprised
08:48.58Jucato(either that or it's chrome that's broken if it's looking for something so old)
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08:50.52marcdeopMarkRS: [root@localhost marc]# rpm -qf /usr/lib/libudev.so.1
08:50.52marcdeopsystemd-libs-204-15.fc19.i686
08:51.02marcdeopseems like chrome is build agains an old library
08:51.06marcdeopsoname changed
08:51.41MarkRSyes marcdeop. Looks like there's a lot of angst about it
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08:51.53MarkRSMaybe I will try out Chromium after all :-|
08:52.29arminhm, for some reason drag'n'dropping taskbar entries results in accidently adding a launcher icon to the panel in 90% of all cases since some time. i consider this a bug.
08:53.00arminany way to workaround this or to disable this new "feature"?
08:53.41Jucatofixed in the 4.11.2
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08:54.18arminok thank you
08:54.40armin*running update*
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09:06.32MarkRSthanks all, yes, just a name change. A symbolic link seems to fix it sufficiently, until Google build against the newly named library :s
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09:32.03arminanyone having problems using the oxygen style in kde under archlinux right now?
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10:09.58Moviuromy personnal shortcuts are slow to act (like meta+Enter launches a konsole 15 to 20 seconds later). Logged out and in after 4.11.2 upgrade
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10:14.55BluesKajHey folks
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10:21.05MrSassyPantsheys. I have kmail on my desktop, and I want it on my notebook too, but I want them to be synchronized. How do I go about that?
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10:23.36ovidiu-florinMrSassyPants: what fo you mean by synchronized?
10:25.37MrSassyPantsyou know, like, firefox. I have firefox on both and they synchronize. If I store a password on my notebook it is then stored on my desktop as well.
10:25.58MrSassyPantsFor Mail, I'd think it be much more impractical for multiple clients not to be synchronized
10:26.32MrSassyPantsotherwise one client downloads a pop3 mail and then I don't notice it on the other, etc
10:27.00MrSassyPantsand passwords and accounts, massive PITA to set them up once, much more so multiple times
10:31.29ovidiu-florinMrSassyPants: AFAIK there is no automated way to achieve this
10:31.53MrSassyPantsso I can only have kmail in one place, otherwise itll screw everything up. ok.
10:33.26Jucatoyou can try asking for suggestions in #kontact but I think there's a setting not to delete mail on the server when using POP3. if you can use IMAP, that would probably be better. but that still won't solve the problems about passwords, and especially app settings
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10:37.29MrSassyPantsAny recommendations on a client that can actually do that?
10:37.40MrSassyPantshow about thunderbird? thats the mozilla mail thing right?
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10:42.27Eddi|zuHausehow about you just copy over ~/.kde4/share/config/kmailrc?
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10:56.26KelsarMrSassyPants: How about IMAP?
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10:58.59BluesKajMrSassyPants, yeah Thunderbird can be configured to leave email on the server
10:59.54BluesKajerr servers
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11:00.39MrSassyPantsKelsar, doesn't solve the whole account management synchronization
11:01.41KelsarMrSassyPants: even in firefox you need to insert your account details, who should it know these by itself. You can make Autodiscover Entrys in DNS to speed up this
11:02.12MrSassyPantsKelsar, in firefox I need to insert website account details once, then I have them on all the synchronized firefox clients
11:02.36MrSassyPantswith kmail, it runs over kontact right? kontakt really doesn't have anything like that?
11:03.10KelsarMrSassyPants: you need to configure each firefox to sync. what you want is a groupware backend i think
11:03.14Jucatothe key there is that mozilla has a service/server specifically for that (that you are implicitly using simply by having a Sync account).
11:04.11MrSassyPants(you can set up your own server but I simply cba)
11:04.26Frogbarfany newstickers that will display in a taskbar?
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11:04.40Frogbarfknewsticker is not available for kde 4
11:07.06KelsarFrogbarf: put one of the available plasmoids in there?
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11:13.12FrogbarfKelsar:  I am looking for one that scrools
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11:23.47MoviuroI love KDE... the more I use it, the more options I discover, the more ergonomic it becomes (and also unusable by anyone but me :> )
11:24.01KelsarMoviuro: ack
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11:25.16Moviurolike, I use my laptop with the little stick between BGH keys. Clicking was a PIT* but well, KDE supports lots of way of focus without click... :D
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15:53.10houmscan anyone tell me how to get interface statistics in plasmoid-networkmanagement working for vpn connections? it works for wireless and wired fine, but for vpn it says not available
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16:03.32xxtjaxxI've enabled Desktop effects with little or no extra or special effects selected in the effects tab. But the "Simple Lock Screen" still glibbers when it shows up. White to black then background picture and unlock password input show up.
16:03.43xxtjaxxHow do I fix that?
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16:04.18xxtjaxxOr better. Which wrench must be applied to which configuration nut to fix this issue?
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16:10.07houmsnot sure what effect you are referring to?
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16:25.03CygniXdoes dolphin 'find' support multiple file names like an AND ?
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16:42.35houmswhat do you mean and?
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16:44.06MirrakorHi there, is there someone using the German translation of KDE and could look up a string in the menuentry for me?
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16:48.11Sho_Mirrakor: I have it installed at least
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16:59.00MirrakorSho_: Which distribution are you using?
16:59.46Sho_Mirrakor: Fedora
17:00.43MirrakorSho_: Good, could you give me the output of: grep "Name\[de" /usr/share/applications/kde4/systemsettings.desktop (exact path might be different on fedora)
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17:03.56Sho_Mirrakor: Systemeinstellungen
17:05.37MirrakorSho_: Thank you, can you tell me which version of KDE you're using? (you can use konqueror --version on the cli)
17:06.11Sho_Mirrakor: 4.11.2 (I'm a KDE developer fwiw :)
17:07.54MirrakorSho_: Ok thank you, I'm currently investigating on a translation issue ;-)
17:08.16Sho_cheers on a fellow contributor then
17:08.44Mirrakor:-)
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17:10.16dmnmscHello
17:10.34dmnmscI have a really weird issue since kde 4.11.1
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17:11.58dmnmscI can't move or copy files with Dolphin. If I use CTRL+C and CTRL+V or if I try to copy and paste it with the context menu doesn't matter, I always get the dialog what the content of the clipboard should be named. When I give it a name, a textfile is createt with that content:
17:12.20dmnmscfile:///path/to/copied/file
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17:37.19mase76hi! when opening konsole as user, i only see $. typing bash brings it correct. why isn't bash loaded automatically. i have a .bashrc.
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17:37.50Sho_probably because either your user's login shell is configured not to be bash, or your konsole profile is configured not to load bash
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17:39.34CounterPillowIs a dev here who's familiar with kdialog, preferably the maintainer?
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17:43.32mase76the shell in my account is /bin/bash
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17:44.37mase76oh yes! it was my konsole profile. there was nly /bin/sh. thx!
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17:49.25CounterPillowalso, does konqueror not support MNG anymore?
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18:53.02oleoanyone of you know what might be causing me holding back from successfully login to my kde ?
18:53.31oleokdm starts sometimes, and i can put in my passwd etc...but after a while just before the desktop shows i get thrown back to kdm !
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18:55.48wgoslingoleo: press ctrl-alt-f1 (use ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to kdm), login, then run 'startkde'. It will probably fail, but has a good chance of writing an error message to the console.
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18:57.37cb400for try logging into the failsafe session from kdm
18:57.57cb400fmost likely an issue with sucky gfx drivers
18:58.10cb400for a broken system
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19:01.04oleothe issue is, i get a segfault with X too, when trying to run kdm alongside with startx -- :1 or so, where i already have a screen i mean
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19:01.46oleowell i already have static screens set to :0,1
19:02.05oleo0 is already active...so normally it should open a new one....
19:02.10oleobut nothing, just a segfault
19:02.43oleoand when i start kdm alone, like said already, the login attempt fails at some point where i get thrown back to the login mask
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19:39.04oleogood, done
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19:39.26oleoi had a typo somewhere in my kdmrc or so....
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19:47.19oleoit somehow could not get the lock on kdm.pid or so...there was one already running, i killed that it still could not get the lock....
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19:47.34oleoeven deleted the pid file
19:48.03oleoand saw that i only set static_servers to :1 only
19:48.08oleonot :0,:1
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