00:00.43 | oldlaptop | gives nepomuk another chance |
00:00.58 | oldlaptop | at least it uses a positive nicevalue while pegging the CPU now |
00:01.09 | oldlaptop | don't recall it doing that when I turned it off |
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00:01.37 | msx | oldlaptop: what version of kde are you running? in 4.11.1 nepomuk is sleeeeek |
00:02.36 | oldlaptop | 4.10 |
00:02.46 | oldlaptop | turned it off in 4.8 for pegging a whole core for no good reason |
00:02.54 | oldlaptop | all the stinking time |
00:03.10 | msx | oldlaptop: in .11 is a whole another history, you will love it |
00:03.12 | Sho_ | yeah, i actually really like Nepomuk these days (4.11) ... I use the "Video" query in Dolphin all the time, nice way to get all videos sorted by date no matter what folder |
00:03.25 | Sho_ | if you don't notice it performancewise anymore, it's nice for the extra value |
00:03.25 | oldlaptop | it does that again it goes again, nice -19 or no :P |
00:04.02 | msx | Sho_: totally! and for the people that works with lot of files daily, having nepomuk integration is a *must* |
00:04.27 | Sho_ | msx: have you tried milou yet? |
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00:04.58 | msx | Sho_: nope, i don't know what is that, lol, give me a sec to look at it |
00:05.45 | Sho_ | msx: it's a new nepomuk gui for plasma, similar to the spotlight popup in os x |
00:06.13 | msx | Sho_: no way, awesome!!! |
00:07.01 | Sho_ | git glone git://anongit.kde.org/milou :) |
00:07.08 | msx | here it is, a mail thread titled "introducing milou" |
00:07.34 | msx | Sho_: oh well, you went ahead, thanks, i'm gonna clone it right now |
00:08.00 | msx | what i've been playing with is the new nepomuk-qml applet, it's shaping really nice |
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00:09.30 | msx | so milou is a side project from vishesh, nice |
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01:50.28 | setuid | This doesn't seem to work for FC19: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-workspace/kdm/configuring-kdm.html#kdmconfig-users |
01:50.34 | setuid | I'm trying to disable the userlist |
01:51.50 | setuid | Is there some other way to disable the user list from kdm? |
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01:59.13 | setuid | ah, I foun dit |
01:59.55 | setuid | On the Convenience tab.. had to set the "Preselected User" to "None" |
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02:07.54 | rdieter | setuid: that's different from userlist, fyi |
02:09.04 | rdieter | but glad you found what you wanted eventually |
02:10.25 | setuid | Yep, it's in two places, updating my blog now with screenshots to accommodate |
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07:07.39 | Nilli | I just installed KDE 4.10.5 and I'm trying to change the initial size of the application launcher menu by opening it, pressing Alt+F3 and then setting Position and Size in the "special window settings" or "special application settings". |
07:08.13 | Nilli | when I changed the settings in "special window" it didn't seem to stick, because I'd close the launcher and then open it again and it would still be small, but changing it in "special application" seemed to work.. until.. |
07:08.34 | Nilli | I opened up my calendar by clicking the clock in the bottom right, and the calendar ended up with the same size and position as the application launcher D: |
07:09.04 | Nilli | I can't figure out how to tell the two windows apart, they're both called plasma-desktop it seems and I don't know which rules I can use to affect the application launcher only |
07:11.30 | Jucato | you can resize the application launcher (or most plasma popups) by dragging the corners. but you might have to remove that special window/application settings you made first |
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07:13.32 | Nilli | if I resize it that way it won't stick. if I close the launcher and open it again it's still its default size. |
07:14.33 | Jucato | it sticks here. I'm on 4.11 now but it has always stuck in 4.10 too if I remember correctly |
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07:15.01 | Nilli | hm.. |
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07:16.08 | Nilli | hm, I removed the special application settings and it's still the bigger size.. gonna reboot and see what happens :) |
07:16.38 | Jucato | i did say you have to remove those settings first ... |
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07:23.16 | Nilli | resizing the launcher didn't stick between reboots, so I'd need something more permanent than that |
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07:29.44 | Nilli | gonna go look at my older KDE install and see how I solved this there.. brb |
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07:36.00 | Nilli | apparently I had issues in my older KDE too, just didn't remember it.. by setting only the Size in "special application settings" I get my taller application launcher as desired, unfortunately my calendar gets out of proportion too. nothing to do about it, they're identical as far as the window detection can tell. |
07:38.04 | skraito | kde |
07:38.08 | skraito | do you have |
07:38.18 | skraito | qt documentation properly |
07:38.23 | skraito | we gonna code windows |
07:38.31 | skraito | we throw away fedora |
07:38.36 | skraito | except redhat 5 |
07:40.56 | Nilli | skraito: perhaps http://api.kde.org/ or http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtdoc/ |
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07:42.08 | skraito | nah |
07:42.19 | skraito | we really code windows nilli |
07:42.24 | skraito | we use their gui |
07:42.33 | skraito | your lead code 170.000 |
07:42.37 | skraito | for document |
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07:42.43 | skraito | after that qt is all your |
07:42.45 | skraito | after that qt is all yours |
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08:42.51 | MarkRS | Chrome has trouble with kde on Fedora? |
08:44.06 | MarkRS | I'm running kde under F19. Chrome won't display. It's running, but its main thread reports its parent as kdeinit4, and says it's "running" |
08:44.19 | MarkRS | Is it KDEs fault it doesn't display? |
08:44.25 | marcdeop | MarkRS: kill it and run it from a terminal |
08:44.33 | marcdeop | see if says something |
08:46.45 | MarkRS | marcdeop: Thanx. It says |
08:46.47 | MarkRS | error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
08:47.07 | Jucato | sounds like you had an update gone wrong somewhere |
08:47.54 | MarkRS | jucato: directly to do with Chrome, or just the system in general? |
08:48.01 | Jucato | system |
08:48.44 | MarkRS | I've not seen anything, but I wouldn't be surprised |
08:48.58 | Jucato | (either that or it's chrome that's broken if it's looking for something so old) |
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08:50.52 | marcdeop | MarkRS: [root@localhost marc]# rpm -qf /usr/lib/libudev.so.1 |
08:50.52 | marcdeop | systemd-libs-204-15.fc19.i686 |
08:51.02 | marcdeop | seems like chrome is build agains an old library |
08:51.06 | marcdeop | soname changed |
08:51.41 | MarkRS | yes marcdeop. Looks like there's a lot of angst about it |
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08:51.53 | MarkRS | Maybe I will try out Chromium after all :-| |
08:52.29 | armin | hm, for some reason drag'n'dropping taskbar entries results in accidently adding a launcher icon to the panel in 90% of all cases since some time. i consider this a bug. |
08:53.00 | armin | any way to workaround this or to disable this new "feature"? |
08:53.41 | Jucato | fixed in the 4.11.2 |
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08:54.18 | armin | ok thank you |
08:54.40 | armin | *running update* |
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09:06.32 | MarkRS | thanks all, yes, just a name change. A symbolic link seems to fix it sufficiently, until Google build against the newly named library :s |
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09:32.03 | armin | anyone having problems using the oxygen style in kde under archlinux right now? |
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10:09.58 | Moviuro | my personnal shortcuts are slow to act (like meta+Enter launches a konsole 15 to 20 seconds later). Logged out and in after 4.11.2 upgrade |
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10:14.55 | BluesKaj | Hey folks |
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10:21.05 | MrSassyPants | heys. I have kmail on my desktop, and I want it on my notebook too, but I want them to be synchronized. How do I go about that? |
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10:23.36 | ovidiu-florin | MrSassyPants: what fo you mean by synchronized? |
10:25.37 | MrSassyPants | you know, like, firefox. I have firefox on both and they synchronize. If I store a password on my notebook it is then stored on my desktop as well. |
10:25.58 | MrSassyPants | For Mail, I'd think it be much more impractical for multiple clients not to be synchronized |
10:26.32 | MrSassyPants | otherwise one client downloads a pop3 mail and then I don't notice it on the other, etc |
10:27.00 | MrSassyPants | and passwords and accounts, massive PITA to set them up once, much more so multiple times |
10:31.29 | ovidiu-florin | MrSassyPants: AFAIK there is no automated way to achieve this |
10:31.53 | MrSassyPants | so I can only have kmail in one place, otherwise itll screw everything up. ok. |
10:33.26 | Jucato | you can try asking for suggestions in #kontact but I think there's a setting not to delete mail on the server when using POP3. if you can use IMAP, that would probably be better. but that still won't solve the problems about passwords, and especially app settings |
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10:37.29 | MrSassyPants | Any recommendations on a client that can actually do that? |
10:37.40 | MrSassyPants | how about thunderbird? thats the mozilla mail thing right? |
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10:42.27 | Eddi|zuHause | how about you just copy over ~/.kde4/share/config/kmailrc? |
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10:56.26 | Kelsar | MrSassyPants: How about IMAP? |
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10:58.59 | BluesKaj | MrSassyPants, yeah Thunderbird can be configured to leave email on the server |
10:59.54 | BluesKaj | err servers |
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11:00.39 | MrSassyPants | Kelsar, doesn't solve the whole account management synchronization |
11:01.41 | Kelsar | MrSassyPants: even in firefox you need to insert your account details, who should it know these by itself. You can make Autodiscover Entrys in DNS to speed up this |
11:02.12 | MrSassyPants | Kelsar, in firefox I need to insert website account details once, then I have them on all the synchronized firefox clients |
11:02.36 | MrSassyPants | with kmail, it runs over kontact right? kontakt really doesn't have anything like that? |
11:03.10 | Kelsar | MrSassyPants: you need to configure each firefox to sync. what you want is a groupware backend i think |
11:03.14 | Jucato | the key there is that mozilla has a service/server specifically for that (that you are implicitly using simply by having a Sync account). |
11:04.11 | MrSassyPants | (you can set up your own server but I simply cba) |
11:04.26 | Frogbarf | any newstickers that will display in a taskbar? |
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11:04.40 | Frogbarf | knewsticker is not available for kde 4 |
11:07.06 | Kelsar | Frogbarf: put one of the available plasmoids in there? |
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11:13.12 | Frogbarf | Kelsar: I am looking for one that scrools |
11:13.16 | Frogbarf | scrolls |
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11:23.47 | Moviuro | I love KDE... the more I use it, the more options I discover, the more ergonomic it becomes (and also unusable by anyone but me :> ) |
11:24.01 | Kelsar | Moviuro: ack |
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11:25.16 | Moviuro | like, I use my laptop with the little stick between BGH keys. Clicking was a PIT* but well, KDE supports lots of way of focus without click... :D |
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15:53.10 | houms | can anyone tell me how to get interface statistics in plasmoid-networkmanagement working for vpn connections? it works for wireless and wired fine, but for vpn it says not available |
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16:03.32 | xxtjaxx | I've enabled Desktop effects with little or no extra or special effects selected in the effects tab. But the "Simple Lock Screen" still glibbers when it shows up. White to black then background picture and unlock password input show up. |
16:03.43 | xxtjaxx | How do I fix that? |
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16:04.18 | xxtjaxx | Or better. Which wrench must be applied to which configuration nut to fix this issue? |
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16:10.07 | houms | not sure what effect you are referring to? |
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16:25.03 | CygniX | does dolphin 'find' support multiple file names like an AND ? |
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16:42.35 | houms | what do you mean and? |
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16:44.06 | Mirrakor | Hi there, is there someone using the German translation of KDE and could look up a string in the menuentry for me? |
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16:48.11 | Sho_ | Mirrakor: I have it installed at least |
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16:59.00 | Mirrakor | Sho_: Which distribution are you using? |
16:59.46 | Sho_ | Mirrakor: Fedora |
17:00.43 | Mirrakor | Sho_: Good, could you give me the output of: grep "Name\[de" /usr/share/applications/kde4/systemsettings.desktop (exact path might be different on fedora) |
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17:03.56 | Sho_ | Mirrakor: Systemeinstellungen |
17:05.37 | Mirrakor | Sho_: Thank you, can you tell me which version of KDE you're using? (you can use konqueror --version on the cli) |
17:06.11 | Sho_ | Mirrakor: 4.11.2 (I'm a KDE developer fwiw :) |
17:07.54 | Mirrakor | Sho_: Ok thank you, I'm currently investigating on a translation issue ;-) |
17:08.16 | Sho_ | cheers on a fellow contributor then |
17:08.44 | Mirrakor | :-) |
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17:10.16 | dmnmsc | Hello |
17:10.34 | dmnmsc | I have a really weird issue since kde 4.11.1 |
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17:11.58 | dmnmsc | I can't move or copy files with Dolphin. If I use CTRL+C and CTRL+V or if I try to copy and paste it with the context menu doesn't matter, I always get the dialog what the content of the clipboard should be named. When I give it a name, a textfile is createt with that content: |
17:12.20 | dmnmsc | file:///path/to/copied/file |
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17:37.19 | mase76 | hi! when opening konsole as user, i only see $. typing bash brings it correct. why isn't bash loaded automatically. i have a .bashrc. |
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17:37.50 | Sho_ | probably because either your user's login shell is configured not to be bash, or your konsole profile is configured not to load bash |
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17:39.34 | CounterPillow | Is a dev here who's familiar with kdialog, preferably the maintainer? |
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17:43.32 | mase76 | the shell in my account is /bin/bash |
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17:44.37 | mase76 | oh yes! it was my konsole profile. there was nly /bin/sh. thx! |
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17:49.25 | CounterPillow | also, does konqueror not support MNG anymore? |
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18:53.02 | oleo | anyone of you know what might be causing me holding back from successfully login to my kde ? |
18:53.31 | oleo | kdm starts sometimes, and i can put in my passwd etc...but after a while just before the desktop shows i get thrown back to kdm ! |
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18:55.48 | wgosling | oleo: press ctrl-alt-f1 (use ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to kdm), login, then run 'startkde'. It will probably fail, but has a good chance of writing an error message to the console. |
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18:57.37 | cb400f | or try logging into the failsafe session from kdm |
18:57.57 | cb400f | most likely an issue with sucky gfx drivers |
18:58.10 | cb400f | or a broken system |
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19:01.04 | oleo | the issue is, i get a segfault with X too, when trying to run kdm alongside with startx -- :1 or so, where i already have a screen i mean |
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19:01.46 | oleo | well i already have static screens set to :0,1 |
19:02.05 | oleo | 0 is already active...so normally it should open a new one.... |
19:02.10 | oleo | but nothing, just a segfault |
19:02.43 | oleo | and when i start kdm alone, like said already, the login attempt fails at some point where i get thrown back to the login mask |
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19:39.04 | oleo | good, done |
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19:39.26 | oleo | i had a typo somewhere in my kdmrc or so.... |
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19:47.19 | oleo | it somehow could not get the lock on kdm.pid or so...there was one already running, i killed that it still could not get the lock.... |
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19:47.34 | oleo | even deleted the pid file |
19:48.03 | oleo | and saw that i only set static_servers to :1 only |
19:48.08 | oleo | not :0,:1 |
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21:12.25 | patkoscsaba | is there a "rocker gestures" feature/app for kde? |
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21:12.46 | patkoscsaba | I know classic shape gestures and how to use them, but what about "rocker gestures: |
21:12.48 | patkoscsaba | ? |
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