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02:16.25quinsoWhat does a program need to have in its .desktop file to be listed in kde settings -> default applications -> instant messenger?
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02:38.41Kitzuquinso, why do you need that? That only makes sense for KDE-Telepathy and Kopete and both have that built in...
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04:25.24RyanMcCoskrieCould someone please help me to build kdelibs. It keeps saying that there is a missing dependancy but won't specify it.
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06:19.50kaffeebohneHi. I have a problem with the plasma desktop, I've got a widget there and cant get rid of it, it just stays there, as if the x besides the widget has no function. I just restarted and  nothing changed. Any ideas how I could get it away? (It's the kickoff menu btw).
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08:58.22johnny69Hello all you sexy & groovy Kde folks!  I have a quick question that is not quite Kde related,.  However, for one thing you people for the most part know *everything*,  secondly Kde is what I am using and always have used.  Thirdly,  my question pertains to doing this UNDER Kde.  So please forgive,.  I promise to make this quick!  I need to chance the "nice" - priority of a program after it's already running and it has to be automated.  Now,
08:58.23johnny69demands I hand it a process ID in order to do so.  pidof will return a process ID if I give it an actual name of something that is running.  So for instance I need to know the id# of kopete  HOW can I pass the OUTPUT of pidof TO renice??  Something like   renice -19 << pidof kopete
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08:58.33johnny69????  Am I making any sense here?
08:59.05johnny69chance = change
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09:01.34psycho_oreosrenice -19 `pidof kopete`
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09:03.46johnny69psycho_oreos:   And it will pipe the output of pidof TO the renice program simply because I used ' ' around it ??
09:05.02psycho_oreosjohnny69, make no mistake it's not quotes, it's grave (or tilde) mark. It's to make your shell run that command and print the output.
09:05.30psycho_oreosYou could probably also get away by using $() as eval iinm.
09:06.04johnny69oh ok...I see it now.
09:06.10johnny69So it's a tilde on both sides of it then
09:06.16psycho_oreosYes.
09:06.26johnny69I type the apostrohpe actually  :)
09:06.31johnny69OK I gotcha.
09:06.43johnny69psycho_oreos:   Thank you!  SEE!!  That's why I come to this channel!!  :)
09:06.47psycho_oreosApostrophe or quotes should not be used like that.
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09:07.03johnny69I want  to have your children!!  And I can't even do that!!
09:07.09johnny69I'll let you have my ex-wife
09:07.16johnny69On second thought,  you don't deserve that.
09:07.22psycho_oreosIt's more to do with shell knowledge rather than KDE specific to be exact.
09:07.23johnny69:)
09:07.28johnny69I understand.
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09:08.29johnny69I really need to get a book on the entire shell/bash/console  (learning how to write a bash script that computes what happens internally inside a star when it goes supernova,  in 21 days and 3 easy steps!!)
09:08.44johnny69Yeah,  that kinda book.
09:09.13johnny69psycho_oreos:  Anyways,  I'll try it now.  Thanks again.
09:09.26psycho_oreosFor BASH, they have their own channel and also they have a pretty decent wiki site. It's something like wooledge.org or something.
09:10.15johnny69By the way dude,  I was just being sarcastic concerning the children.  I don't really want to have your kids.  I'm not known for being a rump-ranger  :)
09:11.11psycho_oreosYes, I'm well aware of that and it's meanings behind. :p
09:11.31psycho_oreoshttp://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ <-- that's the site I'm talking about.
09:11.59johnny69I'l go there next.  Thank you.
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10:43.03BluesKajHi folks
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11:55.39camulusso can put html pages as background yet?
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11:58.51arminhm, immediately after logging in, i experience tearing in KDE. simply switching the OpenGL mode to something else fixes this then, and switching it back to what it was during login doesn't bring tearing back.
11:59.07arminso there really seems to be something broke.
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14:55.43Ener2akonadi from KDE is using mysql
14:55.48Ener2how can I set up mysql for other uses?
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15:00.13Wenzel__Ener2: you want akonadi to use another sql engine ?
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15:02.47FernestAnyone know how to create hotkeys to URLs in KDE the right way? I tried mapping e.g. Meta+F to Facebook, but everytime I press it, it opens it, but the Firefox-Icon jumps around the mouse for several seconds and there is a notification "Awaiting reply from firefox"
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15:03.09Ener2Wenzel_: more like a way to set it up so i can use that mysql for something else as well
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15:04.58Wenzel__Fernest: try with rekonq, maybe ?
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15:06.18FernestWenzel__: but I am happy with Firefox. Should I rewrite the hotkey command some way such that it does not await some response?
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15:07.57Wenzel__Fernest: it's working for me
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15:22.05Ener2any idea how I can do it? akonadi ate the setup for mysql-server so I have no idea how to set it up for me ...
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15:28.08Ener2and I can't switch it from mysql to sqlite either, since then plasma will complain
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15:34.50urseushi there, i want to add my qt application to os startup, i'm running my application via startup script as mentioned here (http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/deployment-x11.html#creating-the-application-package) so what is the correct way doing this, i just tried to create symlink to .kde/Autostart folder but it didn't work.
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15:41.20melodiedoes someone have information about the status of the translations to spanish, for the 4.11.2 version of KDE?
15:42.24melodieP4R is spanish and I am trying to help him figure out why some parts of his desktop are not in Spanish, however, although using myself Archlinux, I don't use any desktop manager, so some help here would be welcome
15:42.42melodieP4R please stay until someone answers
15:42.48P4Rok
15:42.52melodie:)
15:42.58P4Rthanks
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16:05.48melodiehi who here apart from P4R speaks Spanish and uses Archlinux? :D
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17:00.14MeanderingCodegah.  is there /really/ no workaround for this multi-monitor panel bug?  like telling kde, itself, to block that area??  or is this completely in the hands of freedesktop/X?
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17:11.53ompaulcan I stop running programs on the taskbar in workspace1 appearing in workspace2
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17:15.29buscherrightclick it -> taskmanager settings -> general -> Only Show tasks from the current Desktop [x]
17:15.56Kitzuand you can't get this behaviour for chromium / chrome.
17:16.09KitzuIt will appear on any workspace, no matter what you do.
17:17.10ompaulbuscher: thanks that's exactly what I want :)
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18:10.03mnd999Hi, having a problem with Saucy beta. Network manager widget has totally disappeared. How do I get it back?
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18:23.02ompauldon't use NM suggest you ask in #kubuntu (guessing because I have not seen the word saucy before)
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18:24.15ompaulmnd999: ^^ that should read "I ...
18:25.41mnd999kubuntu doesnt know, ubuntu+1 doesnt know. It appears to be related to moving to plasma-nm in their latest beta and it not even starting up
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18:37.32ompaulthat would be unique to them so, so I'd suggest as a temp measure either run old settings, or wcid
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18:50.32Leo145dolphin's find (ctrl+f) does not work for me. i type exact name of a file in current dir and it finds nothing. how can i get that fixed?
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19:58.14gomoranProblem: keyboard in X11 works, login in kdm works, then keyboard stops working.
19:58.58gomoranin failsafe-session: startkd → keyboard does not work, logout of kde, keyboard works again, in same X11-session
19:59.01gomoranAny hint?
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20:13.10worblehatHi
20:13.26worblehatI'm using KDE 4.11.2 on ArchLinux
20:13.49worblehatI have problems with widgets developed in python
20:14.03worblehatI installed the kdebdings-python package
20:14.52worblehatbut when running widgets, they just show "Could not create a python script engine for..."
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20:17.00worblehatany idea what's wrong?
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20:56.00AmadiroEvening. http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-base/kcontrol/wacomtablet/introduction.html speaks of a setting dialogue for tablets, but I'm not able to find that setting anywhere. `xsetwacom` is available on my system. Maybe there is some other package I'll have to install? I'm on archlinux, and there doesn't seem to be a kde-extragear or so.
20:57.24AmadiroI can't find anything like "kded tablet daemon" either.
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20:58.03AmadiroHm, looking at the URL, I guess I may be looking at the docs for experimental stuff.
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21:11.19worblehatfound the answer to my question above: I needed to install kdebindings-python2
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23:52.46damnklipperHello, Klipper has stopped working properly, and as usual, any questions or bugs related to Klipper working wrong are usually forum posts without any answer to them. So, is there any way I can get Klipper to ignore selection again?
23:54.08rdieterdamnklipper: i think you want to ucheck the option called "synchronize contents of clipboard and the selection"
23:54.20damnklipperNice try, but no.
23:54.26rdieterworksforme
23:54.32damnklipperdoesn't for me.
23:55.14damnklipperIt's like it always was, ignore images, ignore selection (which disables the option you mention) and prevent empty clipboard. No go, it's copying everything I select.
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23:55.35damnklipperThe option you mention is not even possible to enable when ignoring selection
23:55.56rdieterok
23:56.31damnklipperHere's your proof that I am not some noob that can't read options http://i.imgur.com/j6O4qrc.png
23:56.41rdieterrelax
23:57.05damnklipperThere are bug reports but as usual they are left abandoned to bitrot
23:57.13damnklipperSo I don't think filling a bug will help any
23:57.28rdieterok i'm done, that's enough trolling for me.
23:57.52damnklipperNot trolling, it's being aggressive because this kind of topic is ignored by the community at large.
23:58.21rdieterfair enough, certainly not constructive or postive. not interested
23:58.48damnklipperIt's still a basic component misbehaving.
23:59.14KitzuYep. It's a community. No paid devs. Everyone decides for himself, which bug he wants to work on. If you wan't your bugs solved, buy a commercial system or get developer skills and solve the bug yourself. That's open source :)
23:59.15damnklipperI believe it doesn't work since 4.11
23:59.43damnklipperYeah, but if I solve the bug myself, when I update, the bug will be there unless I prevent klipper from being updated

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