| 00:00.07 | Kitzu | you can commit your patch. |
| 00:00.34 | damnklipper | I don't write C++. I can make it *work* but not *work elegantly* for community-maintained code |
| 00:01.20 | Kitzu | so you can write your patch and use it on the next released version again ;) |
| 00:02.27 | damnklipper | Yes, but the bug will still be there and eventually more people will notice. Not knowing the difference between selection and copy pretty much jeopardizes the entire utility of the tool. |
| 00:03.05 | damnklipper | Specially if you want to go back to some copy buffer and it's been removed from the list because it's all full of selections from editing text |
| 00:03.15 | Kitzu | if you worry about this, you can post your patch on the forum posts you mentioned before. |
| 00:03.29 | damnklipper | And then I'd be banned for necromancy |
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| 00:06.34 | damnklipper | With selection on it pretty much takes any editing or removal or whole words, double clicks, etc, as clipboard buffers. So editing a paragraph pretty much makes all the clipboard entries to be pushed out, therefore deleted. |
| 00:08.10 | damnklipper | I don't think I need to describe the implications of this while editing code. |
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| 00:10.58 | damnklipper | Hell, I am pretty pissed off for losing my blocks of code, I think the cynism is pretty warranted in my case. |
| 00:11.18 | damnklipper | Specially when it's due to bug and not misuse |
| 00:12.51 | damnklipper | But sure, think I am a troll instead of a pissed off user. Sure. |
| 00:13.06 | oldlaptop | klipper doesn't strike me as a wonderful place to put the one copy of some important piece of text |
| 00:13.22 | damnklipper | It was one release ago. |
| 00:14.25 | damnklipper | If the options worked as normal, the text would be pretty safe, with a buffer of 35 entries. But if text selection counts as clipboard item when the option is disabled, then it's of course not reliable. |
| 00:15.06 | damnklipper | Because, you know, it's doing the opposite of it is "saying" here. |
| 00:15.17 | damnklipper | And the option used to work, so it broke somehow. |
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| 00:16.37 | damnklipper | What bothers me is trying to find a bug report or something and only managing to find the typical forum post with no answer. |
| 00:16.47 | oldlaptop | (and... you do realize that 'being aggressive' looks like trolling?) |
| 00:17.30 | oldlaptop | it's not a productive strategy if you want someone to listen to you |
| 00:17.30 | damnklipper | Trolling would be "your software sucks, you suck", not "holy shit why is nobody doing anything about a bug"? |
| 00:18.01 | damnklipper | Specially when the first answer is "check your options, you surely did something wrong" |
| 00:18.43 | oldlaptop | popping into a KDE channel with a nick <damn$kde-component> and complaining about stuff in a rude manner? No, doesn't look like trolling at all |
| 00:19.25 | damnklipper | I am complaining about a legitimiate misbehaviour that is, indeed, pretty enraging. How rude I am about it doesn't make the bug less existential. |
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| 00:19.39 | oldlaptop | but it does make people less likely to listen to you |
| 00:19.48 | oldlaptop | it's not a productive strategy if you actually want the bug fixed |
| 00:20.25 | damnklipper | Besides I didn't start being rude until I was pretty much handled like a noob that can't tell when one option is enabled or not. |
| 00:20.44 | oldlaptop | you popped into a KDE channel with the nick <damnklipper> |
| 00:20.47 | oldlaptop | that's not rude? |
| 00:21.15 | damnklipper | Okay, fair enough. |
| 00:22.54 | okayklipper | But, seriously, I use klipper since decades ago, it's broken now, my attitude won't change that there's something wrong with it. |
| 00:23.42 | okayklipper | I am a developer too. I'd rather have someone angrily point the bug to me that not being pointed out at all. |
| 00:23.52 | okayklipper | (and besides if you develop games every comment is rude anyway) |
| 00:24.05 | oldlaptop | but your attitude does make it less likely the thing will stop being broken |
| 00:24.36 | okayklipper | I am talking normally now, am I not? |
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| 00:25.01 | oldlaptop | filing a good bug report in the bug tracker, on the other hand, *would* be a good way to make the thing stop being broken |
| 00:25.49 | okayklipper | Unless it's stuff like inputting unicode by raw code. upstream upstream and downstream again to go upstream WONTFIX. |
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| 00:26.40 | okayklipper | Anyway, I found one bug filed, it's earlier, but it is the same behavior. It's abandoned. |
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| 00:28.26 | okayklipper | Fine. Where can I find the git repo for klipper then? |
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| 00:36.13 | oldlaptop | https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-workspace/repository looks like it's a subdir in here |
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| 03:17.30 | vimpulse | hi all :) I read that Ctrl+C sends SIGINT, which is an aggressive signal, and that it's better to try SIGTERM first. |
| 03:17.31 | vimpulse | Idea: konsole should include a menu command, "Terminate Running Process...", which lets you send SIGTERM to the foreground running process. |
| 03:17.31 | vimpulse | Dear all: What do you think of my idea? |
| 03:17.31 | vimpulse | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:20.07 | vimpulse | (If you think my idea is ludicrous, that's OK; you can say so. :) But do please let me know why.) |
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| 06:15.12 | Leo145 | find (using ctrl+f) does not work in dolphin. when i enter exact name of a file in the current dir it finds nothing. how can i fix this? |
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| 06:31.24 | Jucato | Leo145: make sure that the search settings have "Filename" and "From Here" chosen, otherwise it will search by content (using nepomuk) |
| 06:32.40 | Jucato | (not sure if "Everywhere" also uses nepomuk, but I'm guessing yes) |
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| 06:48.45 | Moviuro | OK, so after a number of suspend-resume, KDE slows down: interpretion (?) of key combinaison takes forever (~30seconds); opening konqueror takes ages also when I click a link in konversation. I use KDE 4.11.2 on archlinux. Only have an SSD and 8BG 1600MHz RAM |
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| 07:10.54 | Moviuro | Is there a way to restart KDE hotkeys daemon ? |
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| 07:14.03 | Moviuro | systemsettings is pretty slow as well.... |
| 07:14.13 | Moviuro | nothing either io or CPU intrensive though |
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| 07:23.15 | drizt | hello. Where holds KMail folder settings? |
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| 08:11.01 | drizt | My CPU Monitor shows nothing. http://storage9.static.itmages.com/i/13/1011/h_1381478876_3500634_8fc436e6ec.png http://ur1.ca/fvd1j |
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| 10:25.12 | diegoviola | hi |
| 10:29.13 | Walex2 | Moviuro: sometimes the thing that needs restarting is 'kded4' as there are some known memory leaks |
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| 10:29.29 | Walex2 | Moviuro: in general you can stop and/or restart KDE bits with 'qdbus' |
| 10:30.24 | Walex2 | Moviuro: also, suspend-resume does not always work well, but one of the 'kded4' leaks is related to it. |
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| 10:50.03 | Moviuro | Walex2: how do I restart it, then, please ? :v) |
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| 10:57.29 | BluesKaj_ | Hey folks |
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| 11:18.28 | spm-Draget | A freshly installed KDE-4.11 produced after 2-3 hours of usage a 200kb .xessions-errors file. Wouldn't it be better to reduce the debug output or disable it completely in the default settings? Causes unessecry io/ssd strain |
| 11:19.12 | spm-Draget | At all, programms like dolphin should not dump every debug info in there o.o |
| 11:22.13 | Moviuro | How do I restart kded4 without leaving my session ? |
| 11:22.42 | spm-Draget | Moult: You cannot restart who kde. You can restart kwin, tho. |
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| 11:22.55 | spm-Draget | 'killall kwin' is the nasty way of doing it. |
| 11:23.06 | spm-Draget | and then starting kwin again |
| 11:23.10 | Moviuro | spm-Draget: I believe you wanted to HL me |
| 11:23.12 | spm-Draget | you should have a terminal open =) |
| 11:23.18 | spm-Draget | Ops, yes, sorry. |
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| 11:23.44 | Moviuro | spm-Draget: I asked for "kded4", not "KDE4" ;) |
| 11:24.21 | spm-Draget | Ops, sorry again =) |
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| 11:31.44 | spm-Draget | There are generally a ton of errors for a clean install… |
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| 11:36.09 | Moviuro_ | Also, the screenlock took ages to cover my screen once I resumed |
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| 11:41.05 | spm-Draget | Can I file bugs that depend on other bugs as a regular user? |
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| 11:45.15 | spm-Draget | So many unfixed/untouched bugreports over the last years, gee. =S |
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| 12:31.47 | Moviuro_ | How do I restart kded4 without leaving my session ? |
| 12:32.02 | Moviuro_ | brb |
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| 13:37.03 | vivia | is there a way to disable nepomuk? |
| 13:38.36 | rindolf | vivia: systemsettings. |
| 13:38.38 | Juan | Yeah, you disable indexing on system settings |
| 13:39.14 | vivia | oh right, i found it. thanks |
| 13:39.16 | vivia | :) |
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| 13:48.50 | TOM_otakux | HI, could i ask a question ? |
| 13:50.57 | rindolf | TOM_otakux: hi, yes, you can. |
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| 13:51.20 | TOM_otakux | i am using ubuntu 13.10, and i know there a new feature in 13.10. |
| 13:51.32 | TOM_otakux | plasma-nm the new networkmanagement |
| 13:52.00 | TOM_otakux | but when i update, the widget of networkmanagement is gone, so does the settings |
| 13:52.11 | TOM_otakux | is that not ready or a bug ? |
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| 13:56.12 | hateball | TOM_otakux: seems a known bug, try #ubuntu+1 |
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| 15:07.53 | omeringen | hi |
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| 15:08.24 | omeringen | can i fill my desktop with konsole ? I mean, no background image but konsole only. |
| 15:09.50 | shumski | have you watched too much Matrix ? |
| 15:10.36 | BluesKaj | yakuake ftw :) |
| 15:10.59 | omeringen | shumski, why ? I just don't need any desktop at all. |
| 15:11.10 | shumski | joking :-) |
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| 15:13.48 | omeringen | i will fill a bug for requesting this feature. It'd be good to see an layout option for konsole. :) |
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| 16:01.05 | spm-Draget | Is there a way to see/configure all widgets/plasmoids I have configured? After updating from kde 4.10 to 4.11, my main desktop bar dissapeared. But I suspect that it is still loaded and flying around somewhere |
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| 16:04.14 | LinuxDad | add a panel by right clicking on the desktop , you may have to reinstall your fav widgets etc in the panel |
| 16:04.30 | LinuxDad | spm-Draget: ^ |
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| 16:20.14 | LinuxDad | tan: well right click to see mopre options |
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| 17:21.08 | Justice | I have luks encrypted drive. Dolphin though has issues labeling the drive other than 2.7 TiB Encrypted Drive. When I mount the drive it gets mounted with its label. However the old "2.7 TiB Encrypted Drive" is still there. |
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| 17:21.22 | Justice | Is there any way to make it hide or someting automaticly? |
| 17:22.46 | Justice | Same drive 2 labels = http://wstaw.org/m/2013/10/11/plasma-desktopFvI657.png |
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| 17:23.13 | Moviuro_ | How do I restart kded4 without leaving my session ? |
| 17:23.34 | Moviuro_ | nvm, the suspend resume issue looks like resolved.... weird |
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| 17:37.13 | spm-Draget | I have a hidden, invisible control bar. How do I get rid of it? Which config file holds the control bars? |
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| 17:37.39 | spm-Draget | Justice: You usually set the label to a filesystem. |
| 17:38.14 | spm-Draget | Justice: And since the disk is encrypted, the system cannot see the filesystem before decrypting it. *but* when you partition your disk using GPT, you can assign names to partitions. |
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| 17:38.41 | spm-Draget | Not 100% sure, but I think then dolphin also shows that name. |
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| 17:43.29 | spm-Draget | Is there a way to reset plasma widgets/the contorlbars? |
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| 17:47.17 | spm-Draget | Anyone? <.< |
| 17:47.55 | cb400f | stop plasma, nuke config file, start plasma |
| 17:48.04 | cb400f | .. same way you reset any other application |
| 17:48.07 | spm-Draget | *which* config file? |
| 17:48.21 | spm-Draget | You are not going to tell me to delete my whole .kde4 settings. |
| 17:48.25 | cb400f | ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* |
| 17:48.25 | apt | [/.kde/share/config/plasma*] where I would start to look |
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| 17:56.38 | spm-Draget | [containments] sections inside ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc , uha. |
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| 18:20.24 | redeeman | hello, im still on KDE 4.10.1, but I have noticed this issue atleast on KDE 4.9 aswell, it is, when I am copying files, the notification thing in the plasma panel is making X use 100% cpu |
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| 18:20.41 | redeeman | i know its not the actual copying, using rsync or cp will work without issues |
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| 18:58.54 | anunnaki | hi, im using gentoo and emerged @plasma-active from the kde overlay. i had to emerge a kde-base so i went with kdebase-meta and well theres not many or any for that matter plasma guides. my plasma looks nothing like it does on the website |
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| 18:59.37 | freeedrich| | anunnaki: what does it look like? |
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| 18:59.42 | anunnaki | i also emerged hexchat and it doesnt appear in my menu nor can i run it from konsole. |
| 18:59.43 | freeedrich| | like the normal kde sc experience? |
| 18:59.58 | freeedrich| | anunnaki: maybe you are better off asking in #gentoo-kde |
| 19:00.27 | anunnaki | freeedrich|: plain black background. with a kde task bar on the bottom .. theres no taskbaron top with battery, wifi, clock etc. and theres no swipe tabs on the left and right of the screen |
| 19:00.47 | anunnaki | freeedrich|: yeah i did. its always quiet in there.. been asking for a couple days |
| 19:01.08 | hein | anunnaki: was your goal actually to set up a plasma active system, not plasma desktop? |
| 19:01.56 | anunnaki | hein: i dont know the difference.. all i know is i have a pc tablet and saw this new Plasma active one on the web thats great for tablets |
| 19:02.36 | freeedrich| | which executables are shipped in plasma-active? |
| 19:02.51 | hein | anunnaki: i see, ok. plasma active us a fairly complex session, and distros don't have much experience yet at packaging it. i don't know what the state of gentoo's active packages is. |
| 19:02.58 | hein | *is a |
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| 19:03.50 | anunnaki | hein: well what exactly is the difference between the the system and desktop? like does the system require kde? |
| 19:05.07 | anunnaki | or is plasma active it own wm and DE? |
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| 19:08.03 | hein | anunnaki: Plasma Active and Plasma Desktop are two different workspace environments made by KDE, both based on the same Plasma and KDE Platform technology |
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| 19:08.32 | hein | anunnaki: Plasma Desktop is a mouse-driven interface for desktop computers and laptops, Plasma Active is a touch-driven interface for tablets |
| 19:08.34 | anunnaki | CrowX-: how can i check to see if i have active or the desktop? |
| 19:08.45 | anunnaki | ok i have active then |
| 19:08.53 | anunnaki | err |
| 19:09.07 | anunnaki | maybe i dont since it looks like kde and not really like active. how can i check? |
| 19:09.53 | hein | anunnaki: maybe just take a screenshot and upload it to www.wstaw.org or similar |
| 19:10.40 | anunnaki | when i click the K start button and move over to Applications. theres a "About Plasma Active" listed towards the bottom but when i click it a blank window pops up |
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| 19:21.33 | anunnaki | hein: http://imgur.com/JrnNqKa |
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| 19:24.10 | anunnaki | i also dont know how to get rid of that new activity button set on the desktop. nor do i know how to switch through the virtual desktops. |
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| 19:25.31 | hein | anunnaki: hm looks like a weird ... hybrid |
| 19:26.02 | anunnaki | hein: yeah i think its a work in progress and not near completion. |
| 19:27.02 | anunnaki | hein: so i guess when its completed then it should have that status bar up top and the swipe tabs on the side and no task bar on the bottom? or is that task bar there because i installed that kdebase-meta? |
| 19:28.28 | hein | anunnaki: the former would be the correct active setup, yeah |
| 19:29.53 | anunnaki | ok just wondering if i shoudl uninstall that kdebase-meta. |
| 19:30.03 | anunnaki | hein: would you happen to know what Contour does? |
| 19:31.30 | hein | anunnaki: not precisely, but I believe it's the part of Active that maintains and manages the associations of data to activities |
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| 19:34.13 | anunnaki | hein: because i get an error after logging in that it crashed, but theres no coding or bug message to submit to the developers |
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| 20:03.26 | spm-Draget | Does anyone use activities actively? |
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| 20:26.14 | kingbee | kde borked |
| 20:27.05 | kingbee | laptop hibernated and came out fine, re-hibernated, when restart - fail |
| 20:27.16 | kingbee | restared again and kde borked |
| 20:27.52 | kingbee | something runs that us chewing 100% of all 4 cores, can not identify proccess with htop or top |
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| 20:28.21 | kingbee | have deleted ~/home/.kde no joy |
| 20:28.54 | kingbee | have re installed the kde base no joy |
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| 20:29.41 | kingbee | had to install (yuk) gnome to get a useable laptop |
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| 20:31.07 | kingbee | kde comes up to a black backlite screen with mouse |
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| 20:55.44 | yecril71pl | When I open a Web image in Gwenview, the Properties window shows properties for the latest local image loaded |
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| 21:02.58 | yecril71pl | Why does Gwenview 4.10.5 show 4.10.4 in the About box? |
| 21:04.48 | yecril71pl | Bug 325904 |
| 21:05.19 | tosky | yecril71pl: it's not a bug |
| 21:05.54 | tosky | maybe no changes at all from SC 4.10.4 and and SC 4.10.5, that's it |
| 21:07.04 | yecril71pl | So the bug belongs to bugzilla, for not showing 4.10.4 in the version list |
| 21:07.57 | shumski___ | that immediately belongs to won't fix, as past cannot be changed |
| 21:08.33 | yecril71pl | bugzilla version list can be changed |
| 21:08.55 | tosky | well, that's not really important |
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| 21:09.06 | yecril71pl | so it is an unimportant bug. |
| 21:09.15 | tosky | the first question there if it still applies to 4.11 |
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| 21:09.57 | yecril71pl | You tell me it does not apply to Gwenview at all, so the question makes no sense |
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| 21:10.56 | yecril71pl | (I suppose Bugzilla config version does not follow KDE version) |
| 21:10.59 | tosky | yecril71pl: that's my fault, I didn't read the bug before writing "it's not a bug"; I thought that the bug was the question you made about the missing version |
| 21:11.08 | tosky | then I opened the bug |
| 21:11.49 | yecril71pl | The version mess is a bug too |
| 21:12.34 | tosky | for a past version is not so important at this point |
| 21:12.34 | yecril71pl | and I understand your comment as pertaining to the latter one |
| 21:12.53 | yecril71pl | So it is an unimportant bug |
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| 21:20.24 | yecril71pl | Bug 325905 has been added to the database |
| 21:21.18 | Justice | spm-Draget: the issue is that it wont remove the encrypted drive label when it mounts it |
| 21:21.22 | Justice | so i got 2 labels showing. |
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| 21:33.21 | yecril71pl | How can I get Gwenview to show more metainfo? |
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| 21:34.15 | yecril71pl | It only shows name and size |
| 21:35.53 | yecril71pl | I had to reopen Gwenview to grok EXIF |
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| 23:39.23 | dk0r | I'm retarded. How do I make dragon player repeat? |
| 23:39.52 | dk0r | nothing in hand book |
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| 23:42.41 | valorie | hmmm, there seems to be a #dragon channel |
| 23:42.55 | valorie | but it doesn't look like it's a KDE chan |
| 23:43.16 | valorie | dk0r: you might find more help in #kde-multimedia |
| 23:43.25 | valorie | I think the dragon devels hang out there |
| 23:43.35 | dk0r | ty valorie |
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| 23:44.13 | valorie | good luck |
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