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02:23.29James0rIf i have HDMI1 set as my primary monitor with my laptop monitor turned off, can I configure KDE to switch my primary monitor back to my laptop monitor when I unplug HDMI1?
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05:57.16omar_1___ hi
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06:31.51slack1256How can I make pure qt apps use the Oxygen theme?
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06:35.28thiago-style oxygen
06:35.34thiagopass that in the command-line
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06:39.24slack1256Mmm maybe this vim qt gui hasn't implemented that option
06:40.00slack1256better investigate good native themes for qt that look like oxygen.
06:40.47thiagothe native Qt theme that looks like oxygen is called "oxygen"
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06:43.17slack1256no in qt4, oxygen is a "kde-theme"
06:43.20slack1256maybe on qt5
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07:34.00rindolfHi all. I'm using Mageia Linux x86-64 Cauldron (what will become Mageia 4) with a timezone of Asia/Jerusalem (the "TZ" env var is not set though inside Konsole) and KOrganizer displays the evens shifted by one hour. What should I do?
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07:41.31quinsoHello. I use KDE and I have problems with alt-tab - it works every second time and sometimes less often. It is set in global keyboard shortcuts to Walk Through Windows.
07:43.19quinsoAren't there any telepaths here who can diagnose the problem?
07:43.40valorieha
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07:44.03valoriehere comes Shaan7 now
07:44.06valoriehe'll know
07:44.09valorie:-)
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07:46.48rindolfquinso: does it happen in a new UNIX user account?
07:47.32quinsoI haven't tried
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07:48.37rindolfquinso: then please do.
07:48.45rindolfquinso: you can login from a virtual console.
07:49.03rindolfquinso: does it happen after you log out and log in?
07:49.45quinsook i'll try logging out and in
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07:51.43quinsoI logged out and in and the problem still exists.
07:51.53quinsoI'll try creating a new user now
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07:55.34quinsoYeah, for new user the problem exists too
07:56.13swiftarrowquinso: I missed it, what was your issue?
07:57.11quinsoAlso this thing feels like connected to another bug/feature - I have global keybinding "Meta + C" which opens start menu. Sometimes instead of opening it it opens the top panel of command execution with letter C. I think this 2nd problem happens when none of the windows is in focus or something.
07:57.25quinsoswiftarrow: Hello. I use KDE and I have problems with alt-tab - it works every second time and sometimes less often. It is set in global keyboard shortcuts to Walk Through Windows.
07:59.29swiftarrowquinso: maybe this is too obvious, but is your alt key working properly? or the tab key?  Is it strictly every second time?
08:00.00quinsoit is not strictly every 2nd time
08:00.18swiftarrowquinso: I know on my laptops, the ants seem to like the membrane in the kbd, which can cause some intermittent key issues
08:00.29quinsoWell, in text editor tab types ok
08:00.40quinsoAnd alt works every time too.
08:00.45quinsoIt make the cursor disappear
08:01.19quinsoI think I see some connection of cursor disappearing and alt-tab now working.
08:01.28quinsoIf the cursor is present, alt-tab doesnt work.
08:01.47quinsoSo if I press alt-tab first time, cursor disappears.
08:01.48swiftarrowquinso: Ok, cancel that...  I don't knwo enough about how KDE handles keybindings, but from your description it seems like an issue with focus
08:02.08quinsoand if I don't move mouse and press alt-tab again, it works
08:02.18quinsobut if I slightly move mouse and cursor appears, it won't work
08:03.20swiftarrowquinso: what you're saying tells me that the alt-tab functionality (some people call it the pager, I have no idea what it's called in kde) is being blocked by something
08:03.43quinsoMaybe that focus-stealing prevention
08:03.52quinsoI'll try to find that option
08:04.26swiftarrowquinso: Maybe!  Or, do you have any keyboard helpers / keylogger software / anything else that might be intercepting  the kbd?
08:04.36quinsoI don't
08:04.47swiftarrowKO
08:04.49swiftarrowok
08:05.07quinsoThe focus settings are: Click to focus and Focus stealing prevention level: Low
08:05.36quinsowith focus stealing prevention: none still broken alt-tab
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08:05.55swiftarrowHmm...  I'm afraid I don't know enough to be of further help...
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08:22.52rindolfHi all. How do I get help for KOrganizer? There's nothing about it here - http://userbase.kde.org/KOrganizer
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08:25.09rindolfHi all. Found it - https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdepim-users
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08:33.01vixxohi guys, I'm running kde on opensuse, I'm trying to search files on Krunner but It doesn't work, even if the corrects plugins are enabled
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08:50.21bloeherCongratulations to the saucy release! The upgrade from 13.04 went super-smooth
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09:17.22rindolfbloeher: shouldn't you say that on #kubuntu or #ubuntu or something?
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09:19.58bloeherrindolf: If I am happy, shouldn't I let #kde know as well? They take most of the credit.
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10:18.04poisondhi ^^
10:18.13rindolfpoisond: hi.
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10:18.56poisondWill knotify popups hiding menus ever be fixed? Is there a workaround by now?
10:23.25poisondwhile true; do kdialog --passivepopup UseLessSpamPoppingUpAllTheTime 1; sleep 1; done <- sorry, to be more precise: menus disappear every time a notification pops up
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10:27.32kaffeebohnewhat menus do you mean poisond? context/right click?
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10:28.18poisondkaffeebohne: any :/ Kicker, context, application
10:29.21kaffeebohnehm.
10:29.42kaffeebohnewhich are those knotify popups? Those popups for new mail etc?
10:29.51kaffeebohne(Sorry, I'm no expert.)
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10:31.14poisondkaffeebohne: anything knotify .... mail, irc, kopete status notifications ... all that annoying spam I don't want to see
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10:31.19kaffeebohneok
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10:31.30kaffeebohneI've got no problems with those popups at all
10:31.50kaffeebohneVersion 4.11.2 of kde
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10:35.52poisondhmmm :/
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12:05.16JoeSomebodyHi, i saw a kde popup, it's title was Konsole, it said Bell in session "Shell", is this Ma Bell hacking me? I currently have a dispute with them
12:06.23kaffeebohneIt's an event happening in Konsole JoeSomebody.
12:06.41kaffeebohneFor example: Put konsole in the background and scroll to one and.
12:06.47kaffeebohneIt'll give you this "bell"
12:07.07JoeSomebodyi see
12:07.45JoeSomebodyok thanks, shoulda known, i probably AM being hacked by them, they are not likely to let me see it LOL
12:08.01kaffeebohneDo you run any servers on your machine?
12:08.47kaffeebohneBut yeah, you wouldn't notice anway, because the user would not run a kde session. ;)
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14:27.51lduroshi, is there a way to modify the current page or DOM akin to what Firebug does in Firefox
14:27.54lduroswith Konqueror
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14:28.40ldurosfor instance I'd like to modify a <form> in a page loaded in Konqueror and add a submit button, etc (to bypass JS)
14:28.54ldurosFirebug allows to do that by editing the html
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18:39.05anisfarhanaHi.
18:39.10anisfarhanaAny idea where is canllaith now?
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19:01.03xenoterracideI need to stop kde telepathy from starting... the contact list hasn't been able to start for me since 4.11
19:01.21xenoterracidebut the actual connection still starts
19:01.57xenoterracidetrying to figure out where it's storing non sensitvie account details, and where kde remembers starting applications
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19:05.57Phr33d0mKDE does what Windows can't http://youtu.be/8AZfV_MxcVo lol
19:09.26_tomask_xenoterracide: what about removing packages?
19:12.04xenoterracideI suppose I could do that, seems like overkill
19:12.16xenoterracidestill doesn't help me find the configs
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20:53.26pyBlobI'm using a kde desktop, but every time I restart the computer it takes even loonger for it to show up, are the any reasons why this could be?
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20:54.18mank319Hey there :-)
20:54.30pyBlobHey :/
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20:55.18mank319due to being convinced of the huge amount of impressing KDE applications which I have been using with xfce already, I decided to give KDE as a DE another try
20:55.25mank319and I have to say I really like it so far :-)
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20:55.38Phr33d0mthanks
20:57.20mank319i like the configurability of everything and I love how well the applications work together (e.g. akonadi with ownCloud Support -> Kmail, Korganizer etc.)
20:57.52mank319there is just on rather minor thing, that I have not been able to achive and I have not quite the right search tearm to google it
20:58.22mank319-> the "main button" which is displayed on desktops, I would love to disable it, cause I find it distracting
20:58.53oldlaptopthe cashew thingy?'
20:58.58mank319yeah :D
20:59.35mank319I would also like to disable it in the panel, because I neither have much use for it (prefer right click) and don't find it too visually appealing :-)
20:59.40Phr33d0mit's been years since we've been fighting with the devs to remove that crap, they don't accept :-/
20:59.48mank319:(
20:59.54oldlaptopOn the panel I know it goes away when you 'lock widgets'
21:00.12oldlaptopyou can then get it back if you want by unlocking them
21:00.28oldlaptopno such luck with the desktop one though...
21:00.30mank319thanks oldlaptop :-)
21:00.32mank319that partly solved it :-)
21:00.46mank319strange... not even by messing around in some config files somewhere?
21:01.01mank319well I guess I can live with it :D but it kind of annoys me
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21:01.19oldlaptopIt's an integral part of the 'desktop' containment IIRC
21:01.48mank319no reason to abadon a whole Desktop Environment though xD
21:01.58oldlaptopmay be possible to build and use a containment from git which does not have the cashew
21:02.01mank319well I will learn to overlook it :D
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21:02.47mank319mhh I'd rather rely on my distro's packages instead of compiling such basic things myself
21:02.48oldlaptopor this: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Py-Cashew?content=147892
21:02.56oldlaptopthe ugly solution :P
21:03.39beevvyHow do I enable shared wireless connection in the new plasma-nm? I managed to add it in the manager but can't get the applet let me actually use it.
21:04.04mank319hehe ok sort of a hack i guess, but should do the trick. thanks oldlaptop
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21:06.50oldlaptopmyself, I don't particularly care about the thing
21:07.17oldlaptopbut then again I wouldn't be using plasma-desktop at all if I didn't have to have it installed to get krunner
21:07.40mank319krunner is the alt+f2 thing?
21:07.45oldlaptopyes
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21:08.06mank319pretty neat. used to use synapse on other DEs, but I am thinking about abandonning it in favor of krunner :-)
21:08.13oldlaptopkrunner is one of the better things KDE has ever done
21:08.25mank319well I have the feeling that a lot of the stock apps are very nice
21:08.27oldlaptopkrunner and whatever preceded it in KDE3 anyhow
21:08.57mank319I pretty much like the whole messaging + pim stuff as I rely on ownCloud synchronisation a lot
21:09.23mank319have not tried the office package yet. How do you folks like it, compared to LibreOffice?
21:09.37oldlaptopKParts and kioslaves are the other really really good things KDE has done - and the two major reasons konqueror is the best GUI file manager in existence
21:09.51oldlaptop(in this idiot-on-the-internet's opinion)
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21:10.15mank319i have never really understood why one would combine file managing compabilites in a browser
21:10.20mank319:D
21:10.32mank319but well why not :D
21:10.35cb400fyour loss
21:10.57cb400fpretty often when working with files, you're also working with web ftp stuff
21:11.13mank319true story :-)
21:11.17oldlaptopmank319: because kparts, really
21:11.21cb400fjust like you could use kde apps in xfce, there's no reason not to use LO in KDE
21:11.24mank319gonna check it out :-)
21:11.33oldlaptopIt doesn't add much more complexity than any of the other wacky things konqueror does
21:12.01cb400fcalligra has some nice modules.. but the spreadsheet and word processing leave something to be desired
21:12.05oldlaptopthe rendering engine is just another kpart
21:12.26oldlaptopwhich is why you can fairly easy choose between khtml and a certain well-known fork of khtml...
21:12.30oldlaptop*easily
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21:14.34oldlaptopKParts are also why kdevelop is as impressive as it is
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21:15.18oldlaptopthe kdevelop people don't need to maintain a text editor, or a folder-picker sidebar, or anything like that
21:15.24oldlaptopthey just need to use kparts
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21:17.02mank319nice
21:17.18mank319so all in all a pretty modular structure
21:17.30oldlaptopyes
21:17.44oldlaptopkioslaves are similar, they provide I/O capability
21:18.09oldlaptopthat's why you can (for instance) edit text files with kate over a fish connection or something
21:18.46mank319sounds crazy, but great
21:19.49mank319one thing that I preferred on xfce/gnome/unity was the "tray/notification/icon area"
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22:59.52rohanoldlaptop: you like konqueror more than dolphin?
23:00.27oldlaptopyes
23:00.39oldlaptopsilly dumbed-down dolphin, P-TEW!
23:00.46rohanlol
23:01.06rohaninterestingly, kubuntu doesn't even install konqueror any more. the default file browser is dolphin, and web browser is rekonq
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23:08.13rubin110Halp.
23:08.15rubin110http://paste.debian.net/59328/
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23:08.31rubin110After a dist-upgrade plasma desktop fails to load.
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