| 00:00.56 | Taoki | Hi. Does KSysGuard also include VRAM usage in the Memory tab of the process list? Or only the RAM + SWAP a process uses? |
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| 01:35.58 | hussam | hey guys, how do I detemine the window id of a certain running application? |
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| 01:38.30 | apb1963 | How can I force an application to remain a certain size? I've tried some settings(More Actions->Special Window Settings|Special Application Settings) and each time I finish changing the settings it just resizes to the wrong size. |
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| 06:30.21 | hussam | rdieter: 195,652K by plasma-desktop now. it gained some overnight. |
| 06:30.40 | Leoneof | hi, how to have [cpu][mem] like this: http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/161601-1.png |
| 06:30.43 | Leoneof | ? |
| 06:35.30 | Leoneof | ok, it's textmon |
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| 11:43.33 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 11:46.25 | hussam | rdieter: it reached 290MB and I just did kquitapp plasma-desktop and restarted it. |
| 11:46.32 | leszek | hi |
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| 12:01.03 | teatime | hey all |
| 12:01.44 | teatime | in latest Kubuntu, Kwallet manager no longer has a menubar.. is this standard or some distro breakage? |
| 12:01.54 | teatime | (and yes, I tried ctrl+m) |
| 12:02.30 | teatime | if standard.. is there some non-obvious way through which db import/export is still possible? |
| 12:02.50 | teatime | since that was previously only availble through the now non-existant menu... |
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| 12:12.35 | rindolf | teatime: kwalletmanager has a menubar here on Mageia Linux 4/Cauldron. |
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| 12:12.49 | teatime | rindolf: thanks |
| 12:12.54 | teatime | what KDE version is that? |
| 12:13.04 | rindolf | teatime: 4.11.2 |
| 12:13.15 | teatime | thanks |
| 12:13.23 | teatime | perhaps something kubuntu broke then.. :( |
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| 12:14.07 | leszek | teatime: I also have a menubar here. KDE SC 4.11.3 on Neptune |
| 12:14.11 | aexoxea | I can confirm kwalletmanager 1.10 also has a menu bar on ArchLinux w/ KDE 4.11.3. |
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| 12:15.40 | leszek | teatime: would be intersted if you can set a short cut for importing xml (if thats the feature you desire) under systemsettings ? |
| 12:15.51 | leszek | shortcut = hotkey |
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| 12:16.27 | leszek | teatime: also make sure not to use a global menu plasmoid of some sort which might steal the menubar |
| 12:16.48 | lordievader | teatime: Here on Kubuntu 14.04 I still have the menu bar with KDE 4.11.2. |
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| 12:19.16 | teatime | leszek: thanks for the suggestion.. testing |
| 12:20.01 | teatime | lordievader: 14.04? what |
| 12:20.13 | teatime | what's that? some pre-beta release? :) |
| 12:20.28 | lordievader | teatime: Yes, Trusty Tahr, development release. |
| 12:20.54 | teatime | lordievader: ah. so there really is something amiss on my system then.. thanks for the info |
| 12:23.28 | teatime | been updating this system since 9.04 so it |
| 12:23.45 | teatime | it's not really surprising if it's picked up some cruft.. |
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| 12:25.15 | leszek | teatime: you could also test with a new user if you are still using your .kde profile from 9.04 :) |
| 12:25.41 | teatime | leszek: I know.. I should have done that years ago.. :P |
| 12:26.19 | teatime | I think I have.. but not with every update |
| 12:27.10 | teatime | leszek: I can't seem to find a walletmanager component to assign hotkeys.. should there be, or is it undersomething else? |
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| 12:30.07 | leszek | teatime: you are right, they aen't registered in systemsettings shomehow |
| 12:30.11 | leszek | *somehow |
| 12:30.40 | teatime | ok |
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| 12:42.17 | RedM | Hey, does anyone have kwin 4.11.3? |
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| 12:43.20 | DaZ | i do. |
| 12:43.37 | RedM | Is the bug about border snapping already fixed? |
| 12:43.43 | RedM | I'm considering if it's worth updating |
| 12:43.48 | DaZ | RedM: elaborate? |
| 12:44.15 | RedM | there are no window decorations on maximised windows |
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| 12:44.41 | DaZ | RedM: kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Windows --key BorderlessMaximizedWindows false |
| 12:45.22 | RedM | yeah, I already have that in config |
| 12:45.32 | DaZ | interesting :c |
| 12:45.33 | RedM | still, no luck |
| 12:46.43 | DaZ | it's ok on 11.3, but i'm not sure if was a bug in kwin ._. |
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| 12:48.16 | RedM | and the borders are somehow hiding even on non-maximised windows (when window is pushed to screen edge) |
| 12:49.25 | RedM | this is confusing and disables some functionality |
| 12:49.34 | RedM | not to mention it looks ugly |
| 12:49.35 | DaZ | i want that ._. |
| 12:49.36 | RedM | :( |
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| 12:53.05 | RedM | so, no solution ;_; |
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| 12:58.30 | leszek | RedM: does this happen with the default oxygen window border for you ? Can you provide a screenshot |
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| 13:02.23 | RedM | leszek, yes, oxygen, qtcurve, plastik |
| 13:02.43 | RedM | seems style doesn't matter |
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| 13:06.41 | leszek | RedM: never had this issue before, can you show me a screenshot |
| 13:07.02 | RedM | http://dq1.redw.pl/kwin-noborders-edge.png |
| 13:07.06 | RedM | http://dq1.redw.pl/kwin-noborders-maximised.png |
| 13:08.51 | RedM | leszek, here ↑ |
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| 13:12.25 | DaZ | it's something different than i thought then ._. |
| 13:13.00 | RedM | does that happen to you too? |
| 13:13.41 | RedM | I tried more or less clean ~/.kde4 with no luck |
| 13:14.08 | DaZ | yup |
| 13:14.09 | leszek | RedM: the maximized one is correct thats the behavior I got here too |
| 13:14.24 | leszek | the second one is a tiling to bottom right correct ? |
| 13:14.36 | leszek | aka snap to bottom right |
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| 13:15.56 | RedM | yes |
| 13:16.40 | RedM | leszek, correct, what do you mean? |
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| 13:19.21 | leszek | I don't get this behavior when snapping to one of the screenborders. I still get the window border shown with oxygen. |
| 13:19.22 | Rasi | hmmm |
| 13:19.43 | Rasi | i setup my ssh keys with keychain.. works fine in every WM, including starting my kde session |
| 13:19.46 | Rasi | but |
| 13:19.52 | Rasi | once i start kde and log out again |
| 13:19.56 | Rasi | my ssh keys are not working anymore |
| 13:19.59 | Rasi | no way to fix it |
| 13:20.06 | Rasi | even killing the ssh-agent does not resolve it |
| 13:20.08 | Rasi | have to reboot |
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| 13:46.21 | JohnnyL | How do you overlap windows under multiple desktops? I have a preferences screen whose font makes the screen go past it's bottom. |
| 13:46.38 | JohnnyL | i want the lower part of the window showing on that desktop |
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| 15:56.44 | Zombie | Hello. |
| 15:57.20 | Zombie | After upgrading KDE, my window decorations no longer appear and all windows appear in the top left hand corner of the screen. |
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| 16:07.22 | rindolf | Zombie: hi, long time. |
| 16:07.45 | rindolf | Zombie: maybe your window manager is mal-functioning. |
| 16:07.54 | Zombie | Got a bit of a disaster on my hands, and I really don't want to have to do a reinstall. |
| 16:08.08 | rindolf | Zombie: what is your OS+distro? |
| 16:08.08 | Zombie | I upgraded and a few things started happening. |
| 16:08.28 | Zombie | Rosa 2012.1 and Mageia 3 both (multiple units) |
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| 16:09.24 | rindolf | Zombie: I don't understand. |
| 16:09.26 | Zombie | On Mageia 3, I now cannot get Window decortations on header bars and now all newly created windows appear at the top left of the screen and cannot be moved. |
| 16:09.43 | Zombie | Mageia 2 --> Mageia 3 |
| 16:09.46 | rindolf | Zombie: are these two separate problems? |
| 16:09.58 | rindolf | Zombie: is it better with LXDE or whatever? |
| 16:09.59 | Zombie | Rosa 2012lts --> Rosa 2012.1 |
| 16:10.09 | Zombie | Yes, Fluxbox does not have this issue. |
| 16:10.15 | rindolf | Zombie: OK. |
| 16:10.32 | rindolf | Zombie: did you install task-kde4? |
| 16:10.41 | Zombie | Uninstalled an reinstalled. |
| 16:10.53 | rindolf | Zombie: does it also happen in a new UNIX user account? |
| 16:11.13 | Zombie | No. Pre-existing. All accounts are enumerated from LDAP. |
| 16:11.33 | Zombie | removing/refreshing ~/.kde4 doe no good. |
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| 16:23.21 | rdieter | Zombie: looks like kwin isn't running (or has crashed) |
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| 16:24.33 | rdieter | Zombie: try logging in to 'KDE Plasma Workspace (failsafe session)' ? (that will disable desktop effects, and maybe 1 or 2 other things I forget right now) |
| 16:24.37 | acerspyro | Hello, anyone here experiencing crashes when running Red Eclipse with effects on? |
| 16:25.00 | rdieter | or if you can still access krunner (ALT-F2), try manually (re)running: kwin --replace |
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| 16:26.26 | Zombie | rdieter: You are absolutely correct. |
| 16:26.44 | Zombie | libEGL.so.1 is missing. |
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| 16:27.21 | rdieter | that would do it. :-/ |
| 16:27.37 | slurry | Hi all. Just upgraded to kde 4.10.5. When I open Workspace Appearance, the window appears for a second and then disappears. IAny ideas on how I can fix that? |
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| 16:31.37 | Zombie | libEGL.so.1 is missing. |
| 16:32.32 | cb400f | slurry: try running 'kcmshell4 kwindecoration' and see if you get any useful output |
| 16:32.48 | Safa_[A_boy] | hello, I'm new to kdesvn and I fond something strange, Trying to commit changes gives me "Authorization failed". Even if I got the possibility to commit there (I requested that), How can kdesvn know who I am? I mean the username and password :\ |
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| 16:33.01 | Safa_[A_boy] | found* |
| 16:34.09 | rdieter | Safa_[A_boy]: typically, it uses svn+ssh |
| 16:34.33 | rdieter | (and then relies on ssh keys) |
| 16:34.43 | Zombie | rdieter: You were correct. |
| 16:35.59 | slurry | cb400f, I get a lot of reports like ****** The library /usr/lib64/kde4/kwin3_keramik.so has no API version ****** Not sure what that is really saying |
| 16:37.01 | cb400f | could be that you have installed a broken package with the (kwin3?!!?) win deco |
| 16:37.25 | cb400f | generally you should prolly check your installation and talk to your distro |
| 16:38.06 | Safa_[A_boy] | understand that |
| 16:38.07 | cb400f | keramik win deco that is |
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| 16:38.35 | slurry | Do you know the path of the themes that are listed in Window Appearances? |
| 16:38.50 | cb400f | don't think keramik is default, so for starters I'd remove that if you have some funky package installed |
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| 16:39.02 | cb400f | your package manager knows that |
| 16:39.22 | cb400f | (assuming they're installed with the package manager of course) |
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| 16:44.37 | slurry | In my /usr/share/apps/kwin/ I see some *.desktop files. Are those the same themes listed in Workspace Appearances. Like plastic.desktop, aurorea.desktop etc. |
| 16:45.20 | cb400f | don't touch files belonging to packages manually |
| 16:45.46 | cb400f | is starting to see how slurry might have gotten in trouble in the first place |
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| 16:47.08 | slurry | I'm guessing that the themes that were installed under kde 4.8 may not be compatible under 4.10. I'd like to manually remove them and add them one at a time to see if that is the problem. |
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| 16:49.09 | acerspyro | did they release 4.11.6? |
| 16:49.20 | slurry | Has anyone else experienced Workspace Appearance crashing as soon as it's opened? |
| 16:49.21 | acerspyro | is there a changelog for it? |
| 16:49.43 | rdieter | acerspyro: no |
| 16:49.48 | rdieter | acerspyro: latest is 4.11.3 |
| 16:49.52 | acerspyro | ok |
| 16:49.56 | acerspyro | I'm at 4.11.2 |
| 16:50.12 | acerspyro | once again, is there a changelog for 4.11.3? Is it worth upgrading? |
| 16:50.15 | rdieter | acerspyro: http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.11.3.php |
| 16:50.21 | acerspyro | thanks |
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| 17:02.23 | slurry | Just for the record. My Workspace Appearance stopped crashing once i renamed the .desktop files in /usr/share/apps/kwin . Thanks cb400f. Your suggestion led me to the answer, even thou you were not much help after that. Thanks again. |
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| 17:36.32 | AcidRain2012 | wish they made KDE for windows :D |
| 17:36.39 | AcidRain2012 | just bought a new laptop |
| 17:36.44 | AcidRain2012 | well.. street bought |
| 17:37.40 | tosky | there is KDE software on windows |
| 17:37.48 | bootkiller | AcidRain2012,http://windows.kde.org/ |
| 17:38.25 | acerspyro | tosky: wish people were less lazy and use KDE where it belongs. |
| 17:39.19 | AcidRain2012 | yeah now... ubuntu studio just doesnt cut it for me |
| 17:39.22 | AcidRain2012 | its too difficult |
| 17:39.31 | AcidRain2012 | dont get me wrong, i hate windows just as much as the next person |
| 17:39.31 | acerspyro | Then, people don't even realise that Firefox, GIMP, Blender, xchat, and all these goodies... Come from Linux. |
| 17:39.47 | acerspyro | AcidRain2012: do you know how many distros there are? |
| 17:39.57 | AcidRain2012 | roughly 200 |
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| 17:40.01 | acerspyro | Yep |
| 17:40.20 | AcidRain2012 | acerspyro, look man. dont hate. u dont think i feel lowest scum on earth for using windows? |
| 17:40.31 | AcidRain2012 | this is first windows computerive seen in almost 8 yrs |
| 17:40.38 | acerspyro | I don't know :P |
| 17:40.49 | acerspyro | I'm not hating you |
| 17:40.56 | acerspyro | Just noting\ |
| 17:40.57 | AcidRain2012 | u just hating my windows comp i got |
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| 17:41.06 | AcidRain2012 | i hate it too. just cause it has windows |
| 17:41.14 | acerspyro | No, I thought you thought there was only Ubuntu existing. |
| 17:41.17 | AcidRain2012 | almost threw it into wall 3 times because it wouldnt connect to wired connection |
| 17:41.25 | acerspyro | lol |
| 17:41.32 | AcidRain2012 | oh... well im using this one for music production |
| 17:41.45 | AcidRain2012 | ubuntu studio is the only flavor i know of that has like... pretty much full studio support |
| 17:41.49 | tosky | anyway, there is community work on the Windows port which is nice to have too |
| 17:42.13 | acerspyro | tosky: I know the next Linux dostro! |
| 17:42.16 | acerspyro | distro* |
| 17:42.23 | AcidRain2012 | LIES! |
| 17:42.29 | acerspyro | Winux: Linux with an open-source NT kernel! |
| 17:42.33 | AcidRain2012 | u use hax to see next linux distro |
| 17:42.45 | AcidRain2012 | lol |
| 17:42.48 | acerspyro | lol |
| 17:42.56 | acerspyro | timehacks |
| 17:43.57 | tosky | well, there is ReactOS |
| 17:44.07 | acerspyro | tosky: forgot about this one... |
| 17:44.20 | acerspyro | isn't it like Windows 2000? |
| 17:44.29 | acerspyro | I also thought it was abandonned. |
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| 17:45.28 | tosky | according the website, it is not |
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| 17:45.38 | tosky | but anyway, this is going to be quite OT here :) |
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| 18:13.31 | omeringen | what's the purple balloon icon next to the tracks on amarok ? |
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| 18:54.05 | NeutrinoPower | I have reinstalled my system with a new user directory because I thought kontact works with a new setup good but no I have same problem with "Der Inhalt des Ordners wird abgeholt Bitte warten ..." |
| 18:54.26 | NeutrinoPower | http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=154&t=117732 |
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| 19:03.33 | AcidRain2012 | ok.. when yall said KDE for windows. i wsa expecting a full DE replacement |
| 19:03.47 | AcidRain2012 | i cant tell a difference at all after KDE was installed |
| 19:04.21 | tosky | as I said, there is KDE software on windows - you should see a new entry in the start menu |
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| 19:22.17 | NeutrinoPower | I have to try kde on windows sometime, is klipper working on windows too? |
| 19:25.59 | wrp6 | Why is Amarok's playlist mechanism so primitive and inconvenient? Does anyone know of any other playlist managers out there? |
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| 19:26.35 | wrp6 | I do understand that it doesn't have the same corporate backing like iTunes, but still |
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| 19:30.54 | AcidRain2012 | wrp6, i just switched to amarok. idl it at all because of how it displays your music archive. rhythmbox is much better. but amarok is native to KDE. so i use it |
| 19:31.22 | AcidRain2012 | also... KDE for windows.... UNINSTALL!!! nothing really worked on it. but the idea is beautiful. and i plan to revisit the windows KDE in the future |
| 19:31.28 | AcidRain2012 | as for now ill just have to suffer |
| 19:34.06 | tosky | AcidRain2012: if some program does not work, please file a bug |
| 19:34.25 | tosky | last time I tried the few programs I tried worked (or at least started) |
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| 19:44.46 | AcidRain2012 | tosky, none of the widgets in the task manager worked. |
| 19:45.04 | AcidRain2012 | tosky, well... really almost none of it worked. when i would go to edit a panel, it would exit edit mode |
| 19:45.11 | AcidRain2012 | it was hard to move things around |
| 19:45.27 | AcidRain2012 | i had to write a program to always hide windows task manager and always start KDE |
| 19:45.29 | tosky | aaah, the desktop |
| 19:45.36 | tosky | no, that's not exactly supported |
| 19:45.37 | AcidRain2012 | since the option WAS there. but i couldnt click it |
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| 19:45.45 | tosky | I was talking about stuff like Okular, Dolphin, Calligra, etc |
| 19:45.55 | AcidRain2012 | oh nah. all of them worked fine |
| 19:46.03 | AcidRain2012 | but i wanted the kde look |
| 19:46.05 | AcidRain2012 | :) |
| 19:46.07 | AcidRain2012 | and freedom |
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| 20:05.44 | Guest63095 | ñ |
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| 20:09.49 | glenrock | is there a setting to control how long the taskbar flashes when a running application has new activity? |
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| 20:12.09 | jemadux | i have a monitor .. i want to mirror the same on monitor and my laptop... how to do that please ? |
| 20:14.48 | glenrock | jemadux: i've never used it in linux, but my laptop has a function key (fn+f8) that mirrors the laptop display to an external monitor. |
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| 20:18.35 | jemadux | i dont want to move to gnome to do that :( |
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| 21:10.27 | Soru | Hello. |
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| 21:35.46 | aclimatt | Has anybody had issues with KOrganizer sending groupware invites with the correct transport? |
| 21:36.39 | aclimatt | It seems to always send the invites via the default transport, instead of the transport configured with the meeting organizer that you choose. (4.11.2) |
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| 21:58.13 | Soap__ | something like .bashrc etc? |
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