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| 00:20.46 | Aristide | thiago: Ok |
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| 01:02.28 | Stolz | Does anyone know what is the ~/.kdevduchain folder used for? |
| 01:02.46 | thiago | for kdev's duchain subsystem |
| 01:02.49 | thiago | (kdevelop) |
| 01:05.14 | Stolz | thanks |
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| 04:54.53 | Pawnshop73 | Can anyone suggest a couple of Linux distros that tend to keep their KDE packages fairly up to date? |
| 04:55.17 | thiago | arch, fedora |
| 04:55.31 | thiago | opensuse |
| 04:55.52 | crowell | ubuntu's isn't terrible |
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| 04:56.19 | crowell | arch probably is most up-to-date though |
| 04:56.42 | Pawnshop73 | cool, thx. I've been out of the Linux scene for a while. |
| 04:56.58 | crowell | if you aren't that comfortable with linux, I would not use arch though |
| 04:57.07 | crowell | fedora and ubuntu are probably the most user-friendly |
| 04:57.08 | Pawnshop73 | been itching for a command line for the last 3 months. |
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| 04:57.46 | Pawnshop73 | naw, I'm comfortable with linux. just been about 18 months. |
| 04:58.02 | crowell | I wanted to use something other than ubuntu, but it is the only thing that supports all of my hardware out of the box :P |
| 04:58.28 | thiago | they're all Linux |
| 04:58.32 | thiago | they support the same hardware |
| 04:58.49 | crowell | they do, but I don't want to bother writing config scripts for things like my keyboard backlight |
| 04:58.49 | saptech | hello all |
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| 06:03.42 | valorie | Pawnshop73: why not burn a few distro ISOs to a thumbdrive and try them out? |
| 06:04.10 | valorie | I love kubuntu, but everyone has different needs and hardware |
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| 09:54.33 | Malkor | hi, is there a way of adding places entries in dolphin without searching via network for the path? |
| 09:54.39 | camelback | come join freenode #kanaan for little tests |
| 09:54.45 | camelback | come join freenode #kanaan for little tests |
| 09:54.46 | camelback | come join freenode #kanaan for little tests |
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| 09:56.27 | Aristide | Wut ? |
| 09:56.37 | Malkor | Wut? |
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| 12:30.25 | Lope | anyone here familiar with krename? |
| 12:30.37 | Lope | having trouble with using regex in the krename search/replace. |
| 12:30.57 | Lope | for search my expression is /test/gi but it doesn't find 'test' at all. |
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| 12:47.36 | Erthe | Lope: Maybe s/test/gi ? |
| 12:48.04 | Erthe | I've never used it, but be sure you know if it's POSIX or Perl regular expressions first. |
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| 12:54.35 | Leoneof | i've compiled kde4.11.3 :) |
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| 12:57.08 | Leoneof | but have one problem only, "Unable to authenticate/execute the action: DBus Backend error: could not contact the helper. Connection error: Could not get owner of name 'org.kde.kcontrol.kcmkdm': no such name. Message error: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 255 (code 7)" |
| 12:57.39 | Leoneof | this happens when i try to enable autologin in systemsettings |
| 12:58.01 | Leoneof | and time too |
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| 13:11.10 | rdieter | Leoneof: self compiled into standard prefix (/usr or /usr/local) or custom one? If the latter, that's likely the issue, I don't think polkit looks there for helpers (for security reasons mostly) |
| 13:11.43 | rdieter | possible anyway, the error isn't clear on that |
| 13:12.15 | rdieter | or dbus doesn't know about org.kde.kcontrol.kcmkdm rather |
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| 13:19.27 | Leoneof | rdieter: i do this with any kde module, "cmake .. -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release -Wno-dev" |
| 13:19.56 | rdieter | ok, that should work |
| 13:20.08 | rdieter | so what I mentioned isn't the issue |
| 13:20.30 | Leoneof | oh, maybe i haven't installed polkit for kde, or something else :\ |
| 13:21.05 | Leoneof | rdieter: btw, i can't mount internal partitions with dolphin |
| 13:21.12 | rdieter | you do need a polkit auth agent running |
| 13:21.32 | Leoneof | ok, i will try to install it |
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| 13:39.52 | Ranomier | Hey there. |
| 13:40.24 | Ranomier | I can not find any method to give kde a shortcut with a single key |
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| 13:45.07 | DaZ | because it's not balanced for lean |
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| 14:18.50 | Justice | in KDE colors settings. Is there a way to change color for chromium tooltip for forms? |
| 14:18.59 | Justice | seems it takes the window color setting |
| 14:19.33 | Justice | Having a dark theme gives black text on dark background that it not so higly optimized for reading |
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| 15:43.37 | Leoneof | rdieter: i've solved the problem about mounting partitions in dolphin, but still cannot change for Time, AutoLogin |
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| 15:48.49 | darkshine_ | hello Leoneof, did you mention smth about time? |
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| 15:50.32 | Leoneof | darkshine_: yes, Time&Date, and LoginScreen |
| 15:50.37 | Leoneof | hi |
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| 16:14.23 | Leoneof | rdieter: solved the problem with this comment https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=229735#c7 |
| 16:14.26 | Leoneof | rdieter: ok? |
| 16:14.54 | rdieter | yeah, that was basically what I was talking about before |
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| 16:15.42 | rdieter | Leoneof: glad you got it working |
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| 16:16.37 | Leoneof | but it appears a window for authentication like gnome, not kde ;[ |
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| 16:17.57 | Leoneof | oh wait, brb |
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| 16:32.46 | dharc | KDE will continue to maintain support for FreeBSD? |
| 16:34.48 | dharc | because Gnome is linux-only now =/ |
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| 16:36.33 | pipeline | I believe linux is the primary platform for KDE, yes |
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| 16:36.45 | pipeline | given that there have been active WINDOWS ports for years, I would assume FreeBSD support will continue to work pretty well :) |
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| 16:39.23 | dharc | good. at gnome 2 age, it worked on windows, BSDs, Mac and Solaris, but now is linux-only. it's disappointing =/. I hope that kde is not only dependent on the systemd and wayland. |
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| 16:55.40 | rydhwan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:56.16 | rydhwan | in frugalware |
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| 16:57.22 | rydhwan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:07.25 | rdieter | rydhwan: vlc isn't a kde app, either ask your distro or #videolan |
| 17:07.56 | rdieter | would recommend distro support contact first |
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| 17:52.37 | Artej | hi! |
| 17:52.54 | Artej | how do I change time waiting windows in status area disapear? |
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| 18:01.08 | rdieter | Artej: you mean notifications? (the apps showing the notifications get to decide that) |
| 18:01.17 | mjayk | Haya im unable to enable opengl support on my kde desktop im running an ati graphics card any ideas of where to start would be much appriciated (have fglrx installed) |
| 18:01.35 | Artej | not notifications but "window" that appear when loading |
| 18:01.37 | rdieter | Artej: s/apps showing/apps sending/ |
| 18:01.51 | Artej | they keep showing after launching app launched |
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| 18:02.37 | rdieter | Artej: look for "launch feedback" in systtemsettings |
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| 18:03.04 | rdieter | systemsettings->appliation&system notifications->launch feedback |
| 18:03.21 | Artej | rdieter: thx |
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| 18:03.46 | rdieter | if timeout gets reached, it usually means the app in question doesnt' properly support startup notifications |
| 18:04.16 | rdieter | (ie, it claims to support the feature via it's .desktop file, but then doesn't) |
| 18:04.45 | rdieter | Artej left before I could find out which apps were misbehaving |
| 18:06.55 | omeringen | hi |
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| 18:07.39 | omeringen | how can i update a kwin script ? I have tiling extension, there is a new version available, i upgraded but version number is still old |
| 18:07.49 | omeringen | then i uninstalled and installed again, still same |
| 18:08.04 | omeringen | http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=161151 |
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| 18:12.33 | eagles0513875 | hey guys i am having issues with dolphin acting as an sftp client and im stumped |
| 18:12.53 | eagles0513875 | everything shown on google such as adding the ssh key to .ssh/config i have done yet i still get the following error The host key for this server was not found, but another type of key exists. An attacker might change the default server key to confuse your client into thinking the key does not exist. Please contact your system administrator. |
| 18:12.58 | eagles0513875 | any ideas would be greatly appreciated |
| 18:14.02 | eagles0513875 | im on kubuntu 13.10 kde 4.11.2 |
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| 18:18.37 | omeringen | c'mon KDE channel |
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| 18:20.20 | RichyB | eagles0513875, uh, the thing about host keys is different. |
| 18:21.13 | eagles0513875 | RichyB: turns out with dolphin i need to use fish which i never heard of |
| 18:21.16 | RichyB | eagles0513875, there are 2 kinds of keys in SSH - your client may have a key, which is the file you put in ~/.ssh/id_rsa - and also each server has a key, called the host key, which is used for detecting man-in-the-middle attack attempts. |
| 18:21.44 | eagles0513875 | RichyB: it seems that sftp on dolphin takes advantage of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Files_transferred_over_shell_protocol |
| 18:21.49 | RichyB | I don't know how to debug this through the GUI, but I'd start by firing up konsole and checking that you can ssh into the server without involving dolphin or sftp. |
| 18:22.00 | eagles0513875 | RichyB: its fixed lol |
| 18:22.02 | RichyB | Indeed, dolphin's sftp integration is sshfs. |
| 18:22.09 | RichyB | Good. :) |
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| 18:23.12 | eagles0513875 | i dunno why if you type sftp it doesnt automatically use fish |
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| 18:43.48 | mjayk | Haya im unable to enable opengl support on my kde desktop im running an ati graphics card any ideas of where to start would be much appriciated (have fglrx installed) |
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| 18:47.27 | rdieter | mjayk: start with splatting the output of this to paste.kde.org, qdbus org.kde.kwin /KWin org.kde.KWin.supportInformation |
| 18:47.45 | rdieter | (usually means driver problems) |
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| 19:41.04 | odibilis | What would cause both dolphin to lag for about 15 seconds before starting along with logging out of a session to lag about the same amount of time, but only once, if I log back in there is no lag, but if I restart the lag is back? |
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| 19:49.10 | goddard | how do I install KDE themes? |
| 19:49.33 | goddard | Is there an automatic way? |
| 19:49.42 | goddard | similar to Cinnamon |
| 19:52.24 | rdieter | odibilis: if some disk or share is slow to enumerate via udisks (once done, the results are cached) |
| 19:52.58 | rdieter | if using udisks2, does this return quickly? udiskctl dump |
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| 19:59.50 | odibilis | rdieter; hmm dont think I do... udiskctl: command not found |
| 20:00.40 | odibilis | have to restart real quick brb |
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| 20:06.56 | odibilis | dunno if this helps but dolphin lags exactly 25 seconds, same with logging out... |
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| 20:07.52 | teprrr | sounds like some kind of a timeout there |
| 20:08.35 | teprrr | btw, it's udisksctl instead of udiskctl |
| 20:09.01 | odibilis | aha... command found :) |
| 20:09.20 | odibilis | udisksctl dump -> dumped info into my text editor right away, no lag |
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| 20:13.41 | odibilis | this is dolphin's output when I run it in a terminal: http://dpaste.com/1482732/ none of that output appears until after 25 seconds |
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| 20:22.44 | teprrr | sounds like some udisks timeout then |
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| 20:24.35 | odibilis | but I just did udisksctl dump and there was no delay at all |
| 20:24.45 | odibilis | somebody else is telling me it could be a dbus timeout |
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| 20:26.20 | teprrr | yup, could be related to udisks2 too though |
| 20:26.32 | teprrr | especially when that output comes after the timeout |
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| 20:32.45 | odibilis | is there anyway to test that? |
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| 20:48.53 | teprrr | stracing the hanging process to see where it hangs |
| 20:49.01 | teprrr | can't think of easier way really at this point, sorry |
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| 21:03.29 | Walex | odibilis: usually 20-30 second delays are due to DNS, often reverse DNS. |
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| 21:07.36 | odibilis | I got it with strace! |
| 21:09.26 | odibilis | "sendmsg(7, {msg_name(0)=NULL, msg_iov(2)=[{"l\1\0\1\0\0\0\0\r\0\0\0v\0\0\0\1\1o\0\17\0\0\0/service"..., 136}, {"", 0}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, MSG_NOSIGNAL) = 136 poll([{fd=7, events=POLLIN}], 1, 25000" |
| 21:09.30 | odibilis | <- it hangs on that |
| 21:09.42 | odibilis | I can even recognize the timeout in there, 25000 milliseconds |
| 21:09.52 | odibilis | I haven't a clue what that is though, anyone got a clue? |
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| 21:11.10 | odibilis | so it is polling something? |
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| 21:11.22 | odibilis | and freezes? |
| 21:11.33 | teprrr | yup, that's it :P |
| 21:11.55 | odibilis | what exactly is "it" ? |
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| 21:12.05 | teprrr | what's blocking there :) |
| 21:12.12 | teprrr | something send a message which is partially shown there |
| 21:12.21 | teprrr | and then waits for a response, if I get it correctly |
| 21:12.33 | odibilis | yea I just dunno what it is |
| 21:13.03 | teprrr | http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7416272.html |
| 21:13.47 | teprrr | though hngh, that's just part of the message there I googled for. this service part |
| 21:14.51 | teprrr | you could try strace -v to get some more details |
| 21:15.18 | odibilis | didnt give any additional details |
| 21:15.35 | teprrr | not even for that abbreviated msg_iov? |
| 21:15.56 | teprrr | but anyway, that's a sync dbus message which blocks |
| 21:16.08 | teprrr | would be nice to see the whole message to see to whom it's being send and being waited on |
| 21:16.26 | odibilis | I know, let me try to get teh holwe thing |
| 21:18.56 | teprrr | yup, gotta go now, hope you'll be able to locate the problem/solution :) |
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| 21:19.42 | teprrr | btw, you could try if restarting udev also hangs. |
| 21:22.48 | chris_hd | hi, I am coding and accidently used c++11, do I get in trouble with any distros? |
| 21:26.05 | odibilis | it is frustrating to know it is freezing on something but have no clue what :/ |
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| 21:31.46 | odibilis | how do I get strace to show me the full arguments list instead of a truncated version? |
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| 22:02.32 | _huw_ | hullo! against which "product" do i file a bug regarding the application launcher? |
| 22:03.01 | cb400f | plasma workspace I guess |
| 22:04.05 | _huw_ | cb400f: thanks |
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| 22:23.11 | pepee | hi. how do I edit commands run by krunner? |
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| 22:23.49 | pepee | for some reason, krunner is not opening some application |
| 22:24.00 | pepee | in my case, chromium.browser.. |
| 22:24.00 | Alumin | how can I move a plasmoid that's gone off the screen? |
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| 22:24.50 | pepee | hmm, happens with kcalc too |
| 22:25.12 | JackBauer24 | pepee: are you typing in "chromium" or "chromium.browser"? |
| 22:25.21 | Alumin | (KDE 4.7.4 as packaged by Kubuntu) |
| 22:25.45 | pepee | JackBauer24, "chrom" shows the icon, but is not opening the app |
| 22:26.13 | pepee | if I type chromium-browser and press "execute ..." it works |
| 22:26.14 | PaddyMac | KOrganizer 4.11.3 is not giving any reminders for events I put on my calendar. |
| 22:26.17 | JackBauer24 | Alumin: ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc is a plasma configuration file |
| 22:26.39 | JackBauer24 | try to find your plasmoid there and either remove it and readd it or change its coordinates |
| 22:26.53 | Alumin | can I do that while Plasma is running? |
| 22:27.32 | pepee | same for kcalc: type it, shows the kcalc icon but clicking on it does nothing; type kcalc and press enter -> app runs |
| 22:27.59 | JackBauer24 | pepee: You can edit applications shortucts by clicking on kicker icon with right mouse button and select "Modify programs" or something like that, I'm not sure, I'm not using English version |
| 22:28.27 | JackBauer24 | pepee: maybe for some reason your distro changed the names of executables |
| 22:28.33 | JackBauer24 | What distro are you using btw.? |
| 22:28.38 | pepee | kubuntu |
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| 22:28.55 | JackBauer24 | Alumin: yes, but you have to relog after modifing |
| 22:29.13 | Alumin | ok |
| 22:29.19 | pepee | hmm, I'm using kde+openbox though... I guess it could be the problem |
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| 22:30.11 | solarizedsky_ | hi 2 all |
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| 22:32.08 | pepee | brb |
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| 22:32.45 | solarizedsky_ | Does KDE have an analog gksu? Google tel me about kdesu but it not work. |
| 22:34.59 | cb400f | solarizedsky_: if kdesu does not work talk to your distro |
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| 22:35.28 | cb400f | if you're using a sudo'fied distro.. there's prolly kdesudo or such |
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| 22:35.33 | Alumin | JackBauer24: actually, I found another way |
| 22:36.11 | solarizedsky_ | cb400f, debian 7 |
| 22:36.20 | Alumin | "Unlock Widgets" followed by "Lock Widgets" will make Plasma enforce its "desktop edge collision detection" |
| 22:36.27 | Alumin | I just made that term up |
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| 22:36.42 | _huw_ | Alumin: that's a great tip, thanks! |
| 22:36.56 | _huw_ | i've had that problem a couple of times, will try your solution next time |
| 22:37.26 | JackBauer24 | Alumin: nice, but how did you manage to move plasmoid out of screen in the first place? :) |
| 22:37.52 | _huw_ | plasmoids do what they damn well please |
| 22:37.59 | Alumin | yeah, I think that's what I did...I went ahead and created another File Watcher plasmoid and some point I was unlocking and locking to get it positioned where I wanted it and the other one went zzzzzzup back in from off the screen |
| 22:37.59 | _huw_ | especially if you move panels around |
| 22:38.16 | Alumin | I was dragging it by the uh, what do you call it |
| 22:38.19 | Alumin | the configuration handle |
| 22:38.38 | Alumin | and when I dropped it, the handle was on the screen but the plasmoid itself wasn't...so when the handle did its auto-hide animation... |
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| 22:38.53 | JackBauer24 | I remember plasma to do crazy stuff, but I think since 4.10 or 4.11 it works quite well |
| 22:39.13 | solarizedsky_ | cb400f, Thanks you! I installed kdesudo and all great work! ^_^ |
| 22:39.36 | Alumin | _huw_: during that process I dragged another plasmoid partially off the screen (I was sussing out exactly where Plasma wanted to place it) |
| 22:39.59 | Alumin | so it might be that you have to force it to reposition things by doing that, and then it does all of them at once |
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| 22:41.05 | Alumin | the section of "off the screen" where the first one wound up, for the record, was a place where a second monitor exists |
| 22:41.34 | Alumin | plasmoids are per-screen, I guess, so it didn't show up on the other monitor. That's probably by design, and I'm OK with that |
| 22:41.39 | Alumin | but it should have snapped back |
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