| 00:00.27 | szel | Wait, I think I got it working, is there such a way that I can decrease the volume of PA without sacrificing the OSD? |
| 00:01.28 | shumski | ? |
| 00:02.10 | szel | Currently, KMix decreases the volume for individual playback devices, like my laptop's soundcard or my headset, I would like to decrease pulseaudio as a whole. |
| 00:02.48 | shumski | ah. you could with e.g. pavucontrol |
| 00:02.56 | szel | Is there an OSD on that? |
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| 00:03.28 | szel | Otherwise, I could manage with amixer shortcuts, but an OSD makes life easier. |
| 00:03.29 | shumski | nope |
| 00:05.02 | shumski | wait, now i understood |
| 00:05.50 | shumski | you wont be able to do that with pavucontrol also. unless there is some PA config, each output has it's own volume iirc |
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| 00:06.32 | szel | Yep. |
| 00:07.07 | szel | Same with Kmix right now, firefox, mpv, and mpd has their own audiostream, so I can only decrease pulseaudio as whole with amixer right now. |
| 00:07.24 | szel | I'd like a fancy OSD though, I love me a complete desktop experience. |
| 00:07.46 | shumski | there's kosd, no idea is it functional |
| 00:08.02 | shumski | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=81457 |
| 00:08.45 | szel | Hmm, let's see. |
| 00:10.35 | szel | brb |
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| 00:16.40 | szel | shumski: well, that worked splendidly, thanks! |
| 00:16.57 | shumski | np, glad it works =) |
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| 02:12.44 | unkn-error | hello! |
| 02:12.54 | unkn-error | how it is called that thing in kde |
| 02:13.03 | unkn-error | after login, when kde is loading |
| 02:13.37 | unkn-error | I wish to change the background that is right after I log in, not the background that is on the desktop |
| 02:14.18 | shumski | splash? |
| 02:15.26 | unkn-error | yes |
| 02:15.33 | unkn-error | the kde splash |
| 02:16.05 | unkn-error | thank you! |
| 02:16.29 | shumski | if you type splash in krunner, it will suggest you the place where you can change it |
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| 02:18.32 | CygniX | anyone using kde 4.12 rc noticing that konsole multi tab closing warning is not working? |
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| 03:23.56 | phobos_anomaly | CygniX: sadly, no ebuilds have yet hit for 4.12 in my distros repos. |
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| 03:53.02 | mueslo | didn't ksnapshot use to have a direct upload capability? I don't see that anymore |
| 03:53.44 | mueslo | ah, I need kipi-plugins for that, right? |
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| 03:57.39 | saptech | hi guys |
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| 03:59.12 | saptech | can I install korganizer without getting kontact? |
| 04:00.51 | rdieter | mueslo: yes (kipi-plugins provides that functionality0 |
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| 04:52.03 | saptech | I'm fairly new with KDE |
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| 07:18.07 | jeddi | So .. window edges now aren't draggable .. or more annoyingly, you can't middle-click them to lower that window. Bit of a retrograde step - anyone discovered a way to configure this back to pre 4.11 behaviour? |
| 07:18.38 | jeddi | (Yes, I've found a few threads on mailing lists about the annoyance factor - but nothing useful about changing it - I suspect it's non-configurable.) |
| 07:18.47 | muep | huh? how not draggable? |
| 07:19.05 | jeddi | you can alt-right-mouse them .. but you can't pick them up with the left-mouse-button |
| 07:19.06 | muep | I am sure I still can drag from window edges to change window size |
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| 07:19.46 | jeddi | hmm .. maybe it's only on maximised windows. (playing) |
| 07:20.13 | jeddi | muep: yeah. maximise a window, and .. well, if you have middle-button-to-lower configured, it works on the title bar, but not the side edges. |
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| 07:20.57 | jeddi | and, of course, selecting edges (left-mouse) drags the window rather than resizes. there used to be a config item for being able to select edges on maximised windows. |
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| 07:21.39 | muep | hm sure, seems that you can not drag a maximized window, except from the titlebar |
| 07:21.42 | jeddi | reading different bug reports / LUG lists, most people never really used that feature, so they aren't noticing the change. those that did, however ... ;( |
| 07:22.29 | muep | never used that myself either |
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| 07:25.34 | jeddi | I really love KDE - been using it as my primary desktop & advocating it since the late 90's - but every few releases the devs make a change, sometimes small, sometimes not, that really shits me to tears because there's no way to configure the previous behaviour. |
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| 07:26.20 | muep | kde has so many features that it is pretty hard to preserve all of them while trying to alter anything |
| 07:26.33 | muep | well, that is just a guess |
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| 07:31.33 | Sho_ | jeddi: what's the latest that annoys you? |
| 07:32.09 | jeddi | muep: I appreciate that. I'm sure that lots of people get irritated by different things, and I know some things need to break to go forward. I guess it's the lack of explanation as to why this default behaviour had to change. |
| 07:32.33 | jeddi | Sho_: the edges - sides - of windows on maximised windows aren't draggable (to resize) or middle-clickable to lower. |
| 07:33.18 | muep | I'd think that I actually much prefer the current behavior |
| 07:33.29 | jeddi | World+dog seems to have hopped onto this bug ... though the OP was obviously bewildered about the nature of the bug / feature change: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=323504 |
| 07:33.51 | Sho_ | jeddi: whee, i win (i guessed it was that) |
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| 07:34.26 | muep | because previously I quite often would accidentally change window size when interacting with UI elements that are near window edge |
| 07:34.27 | jeddi | muep: I respect that some people prefer the new behaviour. The way I see it is that given there's code that already existed for the way I've been using KDE the past decade, and code that obviously exists for the new way, there's plenty of space on my 27" monitor for another radio box in system-settings :) |
| 07:35.01 | jeddi | Sho_: you're very intuitive :) |
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| 07:36.23 | muep | jeddi: the old code that existed may not necessarily work anymore when there is other code dealing with same objects |
| 07:36.41 | jeddi | muep: This is very likely the case. I just want to grumble. |
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| 07:37.03 | muep | quite often providing two different ways to do something results in more than twice the amount of code for the task |
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| 07:38.10 | jeddi | muep: Hey, the only language I do much in these days is PHP - doing *anything* in that usually involves about 7x the code you need. |
| 07:39.38 | muep | i've managed to avoid php so far |
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| 07:39.59 | jeddi | Keep up the good work on that front. |
| 07:41.45 | muep | python seems nice for the kind of web server stuff I want to do |
| 07:41.55 | Sho_ | hugs Python |
| 07:42.13 | muep | php might be nice if I wanted just some kind of static html page with few details that change in some simple way |
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| 07:57.53 | jeddi | argles. in response to one of those bug's comments, i dove into the decorations configuration for oxygen, clicked on a radio button, and the machine froze. nice timing. |
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| 08:20.15 | Mike1 | Hi folks! Narrow no-break spaces are invisible in Kate (thus also Kile) for me. Can anyone confirm this? |
| 08:21.17 | Mike1 | Kate Version 3.11.3, KDE 4.11.3 |
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| 09:04.50 | helpis | HI,I need to apply a kde patch,but dont know where to send it, its https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/113798/ |
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| 09:43.56 | cousin_luigi | greetings |
| 09:44.14 | cousin_luigi | Is it possible to have the window size follow font size in konsole? |
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| 10:04.01 | Joif | Hello! I'm on Debian testing/sid, KDE 4.11.3, and I have a problema with Lancelot. It doesn't display correctly the "places" (my user dirs, devices, etc), it shows only the voice for my home dir. Instead, Kickoff and Dolphin do it right. I tried to move ~/.kde/share/config/lancelotrc and purge&reinstall the package but nothing changed. Any suggestion? |
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| 11:36.04 | mooses1234 | hi all :) |
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| 11:42.07 | mooses1234 | i just installed a new version of linux mint on my dads pc ... it was supposed to be a surprise but there is one thing that annoys me. in kpatience there was an ancient egypt card deck, but now there isnt any. where can i donwload it and how can i install it? :) |
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| 11:58.49 | ShalokShalom | mooses1234: Software Center |
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| 12:19.07 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
| 12:19.51 | Greylocks | BluesKaj: G'Day |
| 12:20.20 | BluesKaj | hi Greylocks |
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| 12:20.55 | cousin_luigi | Is there a way to have the window size follow the font size in konsole? |
| 12:23.26 | hateball | cousin_luigi: if you increase font size, it should expand the konsole window? |
| 12:25.50 | cousin_luigi | yes |
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| 12:39.19 | hateball | cousin_luigi: I guess you want it dynamically as well? |
| 12:40.22 | hateball | Dont think that can be done, but I wonder if you could perhaps use different profiles for text-size and have a kwin script that checks which profile a konsole is using and then resizes the window accordingly |
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| 12:54.51 | nek80 | hi |
| 12:55.02 | nek80 | I have a problem with kscreen, can someone help me out to debug it? |
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| 13:01.06 | nek80 | kscreen (display configuration in system settings) does not save "primary" screen |
| 13:01.57 | nek80 | kde 4.11.3, x86_64, catalyst 13.11 |
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| 13:48.06 | mouuu11 | which application can i use to make a localhost? |
| 13:48.56 | rdieter | mouuu11: what do you mean by "make a localhost"? |
| 13:49.18 | muep | echo localhost |
| 13:49.32 | mouuu11 | rdieter: hi, i want to make a local server |
| 13:50.27 | rdieter | mouuu11: you need to be more specific, what kind of local server? (not sure that's ontopic for this channel then, not sure what kde has to do with this yet) |
| 13:51.57 | mouuu11 | maybe there is an specific kde app that allows me to create a virtual server where i can create a site in local without web |
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| 13:55.41 | rdieter | mouuu11: ah, *web* server, and possibly using vm's. definitely offtopic here then. I'd suggest asking your distro-related channels first (on how to install/setup a web server, like apache, for example) |
| 13:56.25 | mouuu11 | yes thanks rdieter |
| 13:56.33 | ShalokShalom | mouuu11: Spend TrueOS a try. |
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| 13:57.09 | mouuu11 | ah another thing, can i modify screen edge sensibility? |
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| 13:58.14 | rdieter | mouuu11: systemsettings->workspace behavior->screen edges |
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| 13:59.40 | mouuu11 | yes but i cannot change sensibility and from i reinstalled my system is less sensible, and must pass one second from when cursor go on edge and action |
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| 15:20.47 | MikeMike_ | When I try to import a private pkcs12 file in kleopatra it asks me for a password twice: The first one is for unlocking the cert, but what's the second one for? |
| 15:21.05 | MikeMike_ | Is it like a keyring thing I need to enter once for every cert? |
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| 15:42.36 | peterpolt | hi there. afaik kwin got a full screen repaints option in 4.11. how do I enable that? |
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| 15:57.05 | ShalokShalom | peterpolt: #kwin |
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| 15:59.11 | peterpolt | ok, thanks |
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| 16:19.53 | litb | hello all |
| 16:20.05 | litb | i use cairo-dock, and it always starts up 4 times instead of only once |
| 16:20.15 | litb | what could be the cause of that? |
| 16:20.36 | thiago | what starts it? |
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| 16:32.49 | aarontc | so I found a bug, I don't know if it's in krdc or xfreerdp - but krdc is putting the password in cleartext on the command line for any user on the local system to see with 'ps' |
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| 17:39.16 | esing | Hi |
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| 17:40.05 | esing | I switched from kubuntu to arch and added my home folder from kubuntu to arch, but all my hotkeys are gone in arch. How come that? |
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| 17:40.56 | esing | (shouldn't the hotkeys be within /home/user/.kde or .kde4? |
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| 17:49.25 | moviuro | esing: symlink one to the other |
| 17:49.39 | moviuro | ie %ln -s .kde .kde4 |
| 17:49.45 | moviuro | or the other way round |
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| 17:50.24 | moviuro | esing: you should have exported them, actually |
| 17:51.03 | esing | moviuro Do you mean I should just symlink .kde/share/config/khotkeysrc to .kde4/share/config/khotkeysrc or do you mean symlinking the whole .kde folder to .kde4? |
| 17:51.14 | esing | moviuro Ye, I think I should have done that :/ |
| 17:51.30 | moviuro | esing: I have .kde -> .kde4 for instance |
| 17:51.56 | esing | Does it matter in which direction I symlink? So .kde = .kde4 |
| 17:52.01 | moviuro | it makes it easier for everything, if ever it is badly coded and still wants .kde instead of .kde4 or whatever ^_^ |
| 17:52.32 | moviuro | esing: you should first merge your two directories |
| 17:52.43 | moviuro | (with unison or rsync) |
| 17:52.56 | esing | Oh I see, so that I don't lose any config right |
| 17:53.03 | moviuro | and then remove one of them, then symlink the deleted one to the full one |
| 17:53.06 | moviuro | yep |
| 17:53.11 | esing | Good to know, thanks |
| 17:53.27 | esing | Did Kubuntu do that for me earlier too or how come I had no issue there |
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| 18:04.26 | esing | moviuro Should I delete .kde4 before symlinking |
| 18:04.43 | moviuro | yes esing |
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| 18:04.50 | esing | thanks |
| 18:04.52 | moviuro | just be sure not to loose anythin |
| 18:05.02 | moviuro | like mv .kde4 .kde4.old |
| 18:05.03 | esing | Yes I rsynced already |
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| 18:05.14 | moviuro | both ways? |
| 18:05.26 | esing | Why both ways? |
| 18:05.28 | moviuro | (rsync is uni-directional) |
| 18:06.42 | esing | I just rsynced from kde4 to kde with rsync -aviHAXx |
| 18:06.45 | moviuro | esing: ATM, you have one of both that has all config files, and the other one has not moved a bit |
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| 18:06.56 | esing | Right |
| 18:07.04 | moviuro | so .kde is the 'full' one |
| 18:07.10 | esing | .. but if I delete the other folder and do the symlink the other doesn't need to be full? |
| 18:07.17 | moviuro | nope |
| 18:07.30 | moviuro | you can move the old to old.bak, just in case |
| 18:07.34 | moviuro | and then symlink |
| 18:07.52 | esing | Ye I did that |
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| 18:08.26 | moviuro | well, then :) |
| 18:08.43 | esing | So rsync will only copy the newer files to the target folder and skip file which duplicated and older? |
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| 18:09.34 | esing | (because I noticed that khotkeys is different in kde4 and kde) |
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| 18:10.23 | moviuro | esing: manually merge the conflicting files |
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| 18:11.22 | esing | moviuro Merging by using nano and copying each configuration to one and another? |
| 18:11.58 | moviuro | yes, but if the only thing you want merged is khotkey, then just merge this one |
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| 18:14.31 | esing | Hm ye, I see my hotkeys now and suddenly my keyboard is in the right language again |
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| 18:15.35 | moviuro | sweet :) |
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| 18:16.43 | esing | Thanks |
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| 18:17.00 | esing | Why are there actually too folder (.kde and .kde4)? For compatibilty with older apps? |
| 18:17.38 | esing | (And if yes, why is it not symlinked by default?) |
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| 18:18.24 | moviuro | esing: I dont know |
| 18:18.34 | moviuro | the default one is .kde4 in arch |
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| 18:20.48 | litb | thiago, well that's the whole issue |
| 18:20.53 | litb | i don'T knopw what starts it |
| 18:21.00 | litb | but apparently, the KDE boot process |
| 18:21.17 | litb | thiago, i will later inspect the parent |
| 18:21.48 | esing | Hmkay, symlink is a great fix though |
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| 18:23.11 | wentknweqt_ | kmail dies with "could not create collection templates resourceid: 2"... anyone know wtf it's on about? |
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| 18:24.22 | moviuro | wentknweqt_: ask on #kontact as well ;) |
| 18:24.36 | wentknweqt_ | ty |
| 18:24.40 | moviuro | yw |
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| 18:59.53 | moviuro | Hi there! Is it possible in Konsole to specify a font for some CLI applications? like irssi would be Mono Sans, tmuw will be in Monospace, cp's output will be in 'Source code Pro' |
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| 19:05.06 | rdieter | moviuro: kinda. you can define custom konsole profiles that use different fonts, then switch ondemand (menu settings->switch profile), or at konsole startup via: konsole --profile <name> ... |
| 19:05.36 | moviuro | hmmm... not KDE-ish enough IMO ;) |
| 19:05.37 | rdieter | but not on a per-command basis, as far as I know |
| 19:05.51 | rdieter | it's a per konsole window setting |
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| 20:43.57 | yecril71pl | Dolphin shows an empty folder when I open file CHANGES.gz |
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| 20:46.13 | jillsmitt | hello |
| 20:46.38 | jillsmitt | i have an akonadi server selftest problems after update |
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| 20:46.56 | jillsmitt | who can look report and help with it? it failed to start |
| 20:48.01 | yecril71pl | anybody can |
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| 20:53.07 | jillsmitt | http://paste.eientei.org/show/33/ |
| 20:53.16 | jillsmitt | here my report |
| 20:53.28 | jillsmitt | please, help me to fix my akonadi |
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| 20:55.07 | yecril71pl | Bug 328341 has been added to the database |
| 20:57.11 | rdieter | jillsmitt: my guest is your mariadb build is broken, upgrade recently? |
| 20:57.14 | rdieter | my guess... |
| 20:57.51 | jillsmitt | rdieter: yes |
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| 20:58.11 | jillsmitt | rdieter: should i restart mariadb daemon? |
| 20:58.15 | rdieter | no |
| 20:58.18 | rdieter | downgrade |
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| 21:02.03 | jillsmitt | rdieter: maybe i should use something simple like SQLite? |
| 21:02.31 | yecril71pl | maybe you should ask #akonadi |
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| 21:21.25 | rdieter | jillsmitt: or downgrade to a working mariadb version |
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| 21:21.38 | rdieter | (and/or report the issue to your distro) |
| 21:22.02 | rdieter | switching backends after things are configured already isn't well supported |
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| 22:06.24 | derdon | hey, I have a problem with compose key. it works on all gtk+ applications and also on chromium and opera (not sure which gui lib they use) but not on any qt application like Quassel, Kontact or Yakuake |
| 22:06.29 | derdon | how can I fix this? |
| 22:07.10 | derdon | I enabled compose via System Settings -> Input Devices -> Keyboard -> Advanced -> Position of Compose Key |
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