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| 16:37.23 | killown | kde says I can't enable the effects, I tried all opengl versions http://bpaste.net/show/NnCtONkz95jGqpLaZeGa/ |
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| 16:44.14 | onemore | In autostart dialog -> Add program user have to choose application thta he wants to add to autostart by clicking on all that damn trinagles to find program, choose that program and then click OK button. |
| 16:47.08 | onemore | User can not just type program because if he do this after clicking OK button appears one more window in wich user have to select and icon, fill some some field to provide infoabout this applicaton even if application name that he typed existsts in that menu and have exactly the same name. |
| 16:47.29 | onemore | Does this would be fixed someday? |
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| 16:56.22 | shikamaru | Which is best distro for using kde? |
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| 16:59.46 | ezra-s | shikamaru, depends on taste, I use kubuntu with much success |
| 17:00.56 | rdieter | shikamaru: depends indeed, could help if you helped define what characteristics a "best distro" means to you. |
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| 17:09.22 | the_2nd | is it possible to disable the window border by default? |
| 17:09.38 | the_2nd | show border: no , for every new / every window |
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| 17:16.59 | Sho_ | the_2nd: yes, via special window rules |
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| 17:43.15 | Safa_[A_boy] | Hello, I'm using lokalize 1.5 on arch. The Project > New project wizard button is disabled :\ |
| 17:43.30 | hyper_ch | I have this weird issue with Kate. One file I can edit, save, close, reopen and all edits are reverted to the original file.... it's just for one file... however if I edit that file with nano, all is well |
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| 18:11.10 | ottoshmidt | what happened to kedit? |
| 18:12.10 | hyper_ch | I have this weird issue with Kate. One file I can edit, save, close, reopen and all edits are reverted to the original file.... it's just for one file... however if I edit that file with nano, all is well |
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| 18:19.07 | DarkEra | ottoshmidt, according to debian's mailinglist from 2010 it has been discontinued in KDE 4, and has been superseded by Kate and KWrite. |
| 18:20.02 | DarkEra | https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/11/msg00228.html |
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| 18:21.20 | ottoshmidt | DarkEra, I see, and have you heard of kwrite analog in pure Qt or smth, without dependencies of kde libs? |
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| 18:23.50 | DarkEra | nope sorry, i'm no expert on this |
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| 18:31.34 | AndrzejL | Good evening Lemmings! |
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| 18:37.18 | ponyofdeath | anyone using kde with an dual screen setup? I am unable to use hotkeys / sleep my second display. |
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| 18:37.34 | ponyofdeath | http://bpaste.net/show/170988/ is my xorg |
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| 18:45.00 | AndrzejL | ponyofdeath: I am using the dual screen as in two monitors setup however I am not using the hotkeys / sleep |
| 18:45.51 | AndrzejL | but stick around - someone does knows... ;) |
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| 18:49.55 | ponyofdeath | AndrzejL: cool thanks |
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| 18:52.41 | AndrzejL | here is my xorg http://pastebin.com/gr7GfWMB just so you can check them out / compare |
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| 19:18.48 | ovidiu-florin | I've kept hearing about a KDE ownCloud client, but I can't find it. Where is it? |
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| 19:22.01 | rdieter | ovidiu-florin: you may be looking for mirall |
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| 19:23.18 | rdieter | ovidiu-florin: though it's called owncloud-client (for linux) on http://owncloud.org/sync-clients/ |
| 19:23.41 | rdieter | the sources section mentions it by name |
| 19:24.41 | ovidiu-florin | rdieter: I'm looking for this: http://vizzzion.org/blog/2012/12/an-owncloud-client-for-kde-plasma/ |
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| 20:03.24 | apb1963 | when I do "konsole --version" it tells me: Qt: 4.8.2. When I do "apt-cache policy Qt" it tells me "N: Unable to locate package Qt". How can I find the true name of this package? |
| 20:04.01 | rdieter | apb1963: ask your distro |
| 20:04.16 | rdieter | sometimes it's just qt, sometimes, qt4 |
| 20:04.34 | apb1963 | rdieter: I did. They gave me a wild guess indicating they really had no idea. |
| 20:05.22 | killown | kde says I can't enable the effects, I tried all opengl versions http://bpaste.net/show/NnCtONkz95jGqpLaZeGa/ |
| 20:05.33 | killown | could anyone help me? |
| 20:07.06 | apb1963 | rdieter: N: Unable to locate package qt4 .... N: Unable to locate package qt |
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| 20:09.12 | keithzg | Are there KDE toques for sale anywhere? I've been wearing a Chrome toque for a while now and I'm starting to feel guilty ;) |
| 20:09.28 | apb1963 | Only the second krash today in the last 30 minutes. That works out to 4 krashes an hour.... oh the joys of kde |
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| 20:26.52 | Jacky | apb1963: what distro are you using? it sounds more like a downstream (distro-specifc) problem than a upstream problem |
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| 20:27.58 | apb1963 | Jacky: ubuntu 12.04.... when I report the crashes they tell me the version of Qt I'm using isn't supported. |
| 20:28.10 | Jacky | it isn't |
| 20:28.22 | Jacky | 12.04 ships with Qt 4.7.4 |
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| 20:28.35 | apb1963 | Jacky: but nobody can tell me how to fix it, or how I got this version |
| 20:28.53 | apb1963 | 4.8.1 actually |
| 20:28.58 | apb1963 | and I have 4.8.2 |
| 20:29.08 | Jacky | 4.8.1 is after an update to 12.04.2 |
| 20:29.13 | apb1963 | ok |
| 20:29.22 | Jacky | remembers that update specifically |
| 20:29.24 | apb1963 | I have 12.04.4 |
| 20:29.35 | Jacky | it broke a test apps I had with qt |
| 20:29.40 | Jacky | apb1963: you using Ubuntut or Kubuntu? |
| 20:30.09 | apb1963 | ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop, which is apparently different from kubuntu I've been told. |
| 20:30.21 | lordievader | apb1963: Shouldn't be. |
| 20:30.32 | apb1963 | I agree... shouldn't be. |
| 20:30.37 | lordievader | apb1963: You just have all the Unity stuff too. |
| 20:30.56 | apb1963 | lordievader: I don't know. |
| 20:31.29 | Jacky | probably because of dependencies being all skewed |
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| 20:31.47 | Sho_ | apb1963: I answered your package name question in #kde-devel btw if you didn't see |
| 20:32.42 | apb1963 | Sho_: Thank you. It was a good answer... I'm just not sure what to do with it. |
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| 20:33.36 | apb1963 | Basically I suppose I need to back out 4.8.2... but I'm also pondering the question of why it's unsupported if it's in the backports. |
| 20:33.54 | Sho_ | Unsupported by who? |
| 20:34.22 | apb1963 | Hang on... let me go find the answer to that... I reported a krash, and that's what I was told... brb |
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| 20:35.04 | Sho_ | apb1963: BTW, have you considered running e.g. a memory test on your computer to rule out machine failure? Many distros (I think also Ubuntu) have a boot option for memtest86 in the boot menu |
| 20:35.23 | Sho_ | Frequent crashes in different applications sounds suspicious to me |
| 20:37.24 | Jacky | sounds like a missing lib somewhere |
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| 20:39.36 | Sho_ | Jacky: The backtrace he posted in the Konversation crash went deep into QText* and ultimately crashed in a QList in QTextOptionPrivate .. if it was *just* Konversation I'd say it's some sort of edge-case bug that was fixed after Qt 4.8.2 since there are no similar crash reports, but then again he's unlikely to be the only user on Ubuntu LTS so if it was general I'd still expect to see more reports of the same crash, and he's saying other apps frequently crash, too |
| 20:39.50 | Sho_ | Jacky: Probability indicates this might be system-specific |
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| 20:43.21 | apb1963 | Sho_: I installed all new memory less than a month ago |
| 20:43.41 | apb1963 | kwin crashed this morning about an hour ago |
| 20:43.58 | Sho_ | If the problems started then or soon after, maybe the new memory has a defect? |
| 20:44.08 | Sho_ | It's something that might be worth ruling out at least, with a test |
| 20:44.19 | apb1963 | no... problems have existed since pretty much day 1 |
| 20:44.35 | apb1963 | I did test with memtest85 |
| 20:44.39 | Sho_ | ok |
| 20:44.40 | apb1963 | err... 86 |
| 20:44.45 | apb1963 | when I installed it |
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| 20:47.11 | Jacky | apb1963: what other apps does this happpen with? |
| 20:47.13 | Jacky | I'm curious now |
| 20:48.15 | apb1963 | krunner |
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| 20:48.25 | apb1963 | the clock window saver |
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| 20:48.58 | apb1963 | I can't get Quassel to connect anymore... not a krash, but odd. |
| 20:49.44 | apb1963 | Thunderbird from time to time |
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| 20:50.36 | apb1963 | kontact sometimes |
| 20:50.43 | apb1963 | plasma |
| 20:50.54 | apb1963 | sflphone |
| 20:51.22 | apb1963 | chrome on occasion though mostly it just hogs my cpu |
| 20:51.48 | apb1963 | that's all I can think of at the moment |
| 20:52.03 | apb1963 | apport-kde |
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| 20:52.48 | Jacky | I'd ask if you had stack traces |
| 20:53.00 | apb1963 | I did... |
| 20:53.11 | apb1963 | didn't keep them... posted when I reported them |
| 20:53.31 | apb1963 | libreoffice |
| 20:55.04 | apb1963 | I did find something curious this morning that I'm not clear on how to resolve... conflicts... let me find it... brb |
| 20:55.45 | Jacky | AndroidLoverInSF: are you rrrrix? |
| 20:55.48 | Jacky | wait, no |
| 20:55.52 | Jacky | he's here D: |
| 20:58.17 | apb1963 | Found one of the krunner crashes..... http://pastebin.com/tZf7qs3k |
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| 21:01.19 | apb1963 | Here's what I found this morning... conflicts and breakages and whatnot... http://ix.io/a3V |
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| 21:08.29 | apb1963 | Jacky: Sho_: lordievader: fascinating... no? |
| 21:08.46 | Sho_ | apb1963: clicking now, sec |
| 21:09.27 | Sho_ | apb1963: the krunner crash is interesting indeed, afaik the KDE SC doesn't bundle any KRunner plugins written in Python by default |
| 21:10.17 | apb1963 | what's SC stand for? |
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| 21:17.26 | apb1963 | Sho_: This one is from sflphone: http://pastebin.com/Q1qdUDTD |
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| 21:18.54 | apb1963 | I have to get ready for a doctor's appt.... back in a few hours... feel free to say whatever needs to be said. Thanks for taking a look :) |
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| 21:25.06 | Sho_ | apb1963: SC = Software Collection, iow the "default stuff" KDE ships |
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| 21:26.06 | Jacky | wishes drkonqi saved all of the crash logs by default |
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| 23:00.03 | ovidiu-florin | Kmail decided to stay disconected from my gmail IMAP connection for tha past few days. I cannot get it to sync. In Akonadi configuration I can see it with the status disconnected. If I set toggle dosconnected/connected, it connects, and disconnects after a few seconds. No errors are shown. |
| 23:00.05 | ovidiu-florin | Any ideeas?? |
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| 23:15.53 | brain0 | hello. is there a dbus command for going one desktop to the left/right/up/down? |
| 23:16.31 | brain0 | (there's a keyboard shortcut, so I was hoping this would be accessible via dbus) |
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| 23:18.19 | Sho_ | brain0: you can also use something like wmctrl for it |
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