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00:00.03AristideI have already try but I can try again
00:00.34AristideSame problem scummos
00:00.59scummosok, sorry, no idea then
00:01.01Aristide:/
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00:07.30AristideSo, i'm back :)
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03:31.51m00nis there a way to get my windows to not become very transparent whenever i mouseover the task manager bar?
03:37.47planhthsm00n: maybe transparency effect options in "Desktop effects" kcm, could help
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03:41.14m00nkcm?
03:41.55m00ni
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03:42.44m00nI cant find what you mean, but under desktop effects i have a translucency option, disabled to no avail
03:43.03planhthsno just checked it doesnt have any option for "highliting windows" only for moving
03:43.39planhthsi meant alt+f2 and type "desktop effects"
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03:45.36planhthstranslucency option <- yes thats the one
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03:47.34m00nturning it off does nothing for me, and the setting available dont seem to apply
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03:50.21planhthsyes indeed it doesnt do anything for me ether...
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03:51.38planhthsi think it should though
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03:53.59planhthslike when disabling Highliting windows does
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03:56.47m00nidk, i wish i could stop this, its rather annoying
03:59.25planhthsmaybe you could create a bug report
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05:11.46supersonicHow do i hide the cashew?
05:13.13supersonicThere doesn't seem to be any use to it, its menu simply contains the desktop right click items
05:15.24IkeKrulli had to find the source for the (now abandoned, it seems) ihatethecashew plasmoid and modify it to get rid of mine
05:16.00IkeKrullbasically, the kde devs think you really, really need that cashew, and if you want to remove it, well, you're wrong in the head
05:17.23supersonicchmod 600 /usr/lib/kde4/plasma_toolbox_desktoptoolbox.so
05:17.25supersonicThat worked
05:17.30supersonicnot sure if it broke anything
05:17.52IkeKrullthat seems like a decent method
05:18.18IkeKrulldecent in that its trivially reversible and doesnt require hacking any code
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07:33.41zoldyckOn Dolphin's "Places" panel I have this entry: "100,0 GiB Encrypted Drive"
07:33.43zoldycksince I can't make a label for LUKS volume, is there any way to rename it?
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08:25.01Turingiis there a kde widget for gpu temperatures?
08:25.23Turingior perhaps an all-in-one widget for desktop sensors?
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08:35.53zoldyckTuringi: there's "Hardware Temperature" plasmoid
08:35.56zoldyckI think it shows everything you can access through lm_sensors or ACPI
08:36.04zoldyckprobably can't show GPU
08:36.32zoldyckif it's AMD, the only way is nvidia-settings, probably
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08:38.29Turingizoldyck: wikipedia has these fancy linux desktop screenshots with full hardware temps and utilization graphs
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08:42.37zoldyckTuringi: this is what it offers me. If I compiled more kernel modules, there probably would be more https://img.bi/#!SRGLf2a!dR7pejSyk58vqAI8MXSHwLkVvTZulTQEo9Nuu0tA
08:42.44zoldyckit hows graphs and temps, yes
08:43.53Turingizoldyck: so these sensors are only available with custom kernels?
08:44.17narendraj9for AMD, it's not nvidia settings it's the catalyst control center
08:44.44narendraj9But that too doesn't show you the GPU usage, I guess.
08:44.51zoldyckTuringi: no, most distros have them enabled, I'm a Gentoo user so I build everything from source :)
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09:21.54doomikusanyone here at this hour?
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09:48.16MasterAccuratehi there...
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09:54.02moviurodoomikus: there are about 400 people here :þ
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09:55.21doomikusI meant active, but ok :D
09:56.04doomikusI was looking for some answers on mouse emulation, but I found that increasing 'repeat interval' helps
09:57.59doomikusI'd still like to know if there are modifiers for the numpad keys used in order to quickly get to the corners and top/bottom/sides of the monitor/screen
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10:01.33MasterAccurateThis is a nice clock circuit :) it have some alarm, too and you can use it for starting a bomb :D
10:01.35MasterAccuratehttp://masteraccurate.bplaced.net/homepage/Sciences/Electronic/clock_circuit/
10:02.02MasterAccurateit is build with TMS3450NL
10:02.15MasterAccuratevery easy circuit
10:03.19moviurodoomikus: if it doesn't exist, you could assigne keyboard shortcuts to 'move focus to the window on the right/left/top/bottom' and an other one to 'move cursor to focused window'
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10:04.24doomikusmoviuro: where is this located in system settings?
10:05.23MasterAccurateuhh wrong window...
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10:12.58doomikusmoviuro: I think I see what you're saying, but I'm not looking to get to specific windows.  I've found CTRL+F9 to do an excellent job of that - from there I can filter what I want and go
10:13.33doomikusI'd like the mouse movement I'm emulating on the keyboard to "warp" the pointer to different parts of the screen quickly
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12:47.37superprowerhi
12:47.42superprowerCan you help ma?
12:47.44superprower*me
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12:49.37superprowerI have latest kubuntu, so, how to create link to the app, i mean, no widget, plasmoid, just a simple ubuntu-type link?
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13:08.11supersonicCan anyone recommend a good programming font? something that'll look nice with font hinting at size 8
13:08.23supersonicor a font that looks good without it in konsole
13:08.28supersonici can never seem to find a font i like
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13:17.12lionaneeshHello all.
13:17.17lionaneeshMy name is Aneesh Dogra.
13:17.53lionaneeshI am open source enthusiast and would like to participate in GSoC with KDE.
13:18.05lionaneeshI am trying to find a project that really interests me
13:18.09lionaneeshAny starting point
13:18.11lionaneesh?
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13:18.42supersonicgenerally thats not how it works
13:19.01supersonicyou usually find something you need that you can't already do and find a way to implement it and share it with others
13:20.23supersoniclionaneesh: what do you want to change about kde?
13:20.28supersonici know
13:20.41supersoniclionaneesh: write something to destroy the stupid cashew thing
13:21.40lionaneeshI contributed some patches to Kde-Kstars some months back
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13:24.55lionaneeshsupersonic: I am not sure if I want to change something about KDE per se.
13:25.16supersonicmake a font
13:25.24lionaneeshsupersonic: make a font?
13:26.43supersonicyup a nice UI font that looks good at size 8
13:27.20lionaneeshsupersonic: I am not really into font development.
13:27.28lionaneeshI know my way around Python and C.
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13:28.33fairclionaneesh: http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2014/Ideas
13:29.03supersonicsuch a nice font here but just look at the "e" in file: http://i.imgur.com/CgwGBTU.png
13:29.13supersonicannoys me so much
13:29.59supersoniclionaneesh: same, python and C
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13:31.17fairclionaneesh: also: http://community.kde.org/GSoC#Instructions_for_students
13:33.32lionaneeshsupersonic: I am really passionate about the web.
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13:34.13lionaneeshand really liked the "Simple project report" idea on the 2013 page.
13:34.16supersonicmake a plasma widget
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13:39.31wilmaaaahhey all
13:39.37mitchell__<mitchell_> konqueror->showterminal->emacs -nw looks awful
13:39.45mitchell__what do i change to reset the appearance
13:39.56mitchell__it is some terrible green on grey
13:40.03mitchell__oh no
13:40.06mitchell__ohyes
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13:44.42mitchell__it's konsole i guess which looks terrible in emacs -nw
13:44.53mitchell__why does it use those appearances?
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13:52.30supersonicCan kde set fonts by pixel sizes rather than whatever it uses now
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14:58.04frlttrwrdI want to scroll with the mouse wheel, but I unintentionally have the mouse cursor over the panel. result: active window canges. can I disable this behavior?
15:01.26AristideHi !
15:01.34Aristidehttp://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/08/plasma-desktopiN2451.png I have a problem describe on screenshot with example :x
15:02.17Aristide*sample
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15:26.40wilmaaaahhi all. is it possible to add *krunner* without adding the whole plasma-desktop dependencies like kde-window-manager and such?
15:26.41gcibotwilmaaaah, hey!
15:27.08wilmaaaahgcibot: hi! what a lovely bot you are!
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15:40.23scummoswilmaaaah: "add" where?
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15:44.29wilmaaaahscummos: right. i'm using awesome wm with dolphin+akonadi and i'd like to just install krunner to easily find and open files that were indexed by nepomuk
15:44.46scummoswilmaaaah: just run "krunner"
15:44.56scummos... twice, once to start the demon and once to start the application
15:46.03wilmaaaahi first need to install krunner but it's pulling in the whole plasma-desktop, including kwin which i wouldn't need
15:46.21scummosah, that. no, that's not possible in kde4.
15:46.25scummosthe dependencies are like that
15:46.36scummosin 5 it'll probably be a lot better for at least some apps
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15:46.54wilmaaaahoh, that's great news
15:47.01scummosbut why do you care if you  have kwin take 10 MB on your disk anyways
15:47.57wilmaaaahsure, you are probably right. i was just wondering if this may break my current setup
15:48.03scummosit won't
15:48.05scummosI do the same ;)
15:48.12wilmaaaahahah
15:48.19wilmaaaahalright, good news
15:48.23wilmaaaahthanks
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15:57.01AristideHi again o/ http://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/08/plasma-desktopiN2451.png I have a problem describe on screenshot with sample ... How fix that ?
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16:52.08f15hHello, I would like to change the status of a bug that got assigned to me in bugs.kde.org
16:52.12f15h(change status to "confirmed")
16:52.18f15hbut I don't have the "canconfirm" permission to do so
16:52.23f15hHow to acquire such permissions?
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17:48.01Marquelmorning. short question about akregator/konqueror - not sure which: klicking on links in some rss-feeds starts loading the linked page but shortly after loading the page completes the tab is forwarded to some (non-existing) twitter-page and keeps on doing so even after pushing "back" and "stop loading" numerous times until that cycle finally stops. did i miss something, is that a problem w/ my konq-config or is it some other problem?
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19:12.08GadolGrandGadolsecrets d'état & co ( révélations, etc ), faites tourner .. http://morganroulleau.wordpress.com ( on s'en branle que vous compreniez pas, au pire ça viendra plus tard ( .. )) ( La NSA approuve ce message. ) ( méway, sans doute, ils m'aiment. )
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22:12.05kevinvanbonsoir, je cherche de l'assistance "in french" :)
22:13.39toskykevinvan: I don't speak French, but I guess this is what you are looking for: http://fr.kde.org/communaute/
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22:14.17kevinvanok, I go to see, thks
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23:15.50AristideHi !
23:16.01AristideI have a problem with KDE, notifys are displaying in ugly grey square
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23:22.06svuorelaAristide: KPassivePopup's ?
23:22.21Aristidesvuorela: All notifications
23:22.38AristideI have try to use kdialog --passivepopup, notifysend, and « native notify » from KDE App
23:22.50AristideI have always a grey square :/
23:23.16svuorelaAristide: http://api.kde.org/4.10-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/kpassivepopup.png < such things ?
23:23.43AristideYes x) I have this problem
23:23.51svuorelaAristide: good.
23:24.18svuorelathat's the fallback when it can't find 'the other end' of the normal notification channel
23:24.24Aristidehttp://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/08/plasma-desktopQ15392.png my screenshot
23:25.04Aristidesvuorela: The notification widget is in the bottom right of screenshot
23:25.05svuorelaAristide: if you right click on the (i), have you disabled handling notification settings ?
23:25.10AristideYes
23:25.25AristideBut I can only edit settings (Right click and settings)
23:25.30AristideLeft click do nothing
23:25.37Aristide(On notification icon)
23:25.43svuorelayeah. right click > settings.
23:25.54svuorelais there a check box in 'handle notifications ..' ?
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23:26.00Aristidesvuorela: Two checkbox has been checked yes
23:26.07svuorelahmm... then it should work.
23:26.27Aristide(So, I have already check this settings :x)
23:27.00svuorelaAristide: can you open a terminal and run some debugging commands ?
23:27.10Aristidesvuorela: How ?
23:27.18Aristide(For debugging command)
23:27.56svuorelaqdbus | grep -i org.freedesktop.Notifications
23:28.00svuoreladoes that return anytihng ?
23:28.23iqualfragileok, so this might verry well be the strangest bug i ever reported and i am not even sure if its kdes fault: i was reading a pdf in okular and randomly selecting chunks of blank space when my pc suddenly started making strange noises, sounded like some fan turned up or something, i could reproduce it so i took a look at htop and: cpu load for xorg went up to 50% when just selecting random white space in okular as opposed to like 1% every now
23:28.23iqualfragileand then when doing nothing
23:28.25Aristide[florian@florian-pc ~]$ qdbus | grep -i org.freedesktop.Notifications
23:28.25Aristideqdbus: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qdbus': No such file or directory
23:28.26AristidexD
23:28.34AristideWut ?
23:28.42svuorelaAristide: qdbus -qt4 | grep ....
23:29.00Aristidesvuorela: Nothing
23:29.08Aristidesvuorela: [florian@florian-pc ~]$ qdbus -qt4 | grep -i org.freedesktop.Notifications
23:29.09Aristide[florian@florian-pc ~]$
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23:29.28iqualfragileany ideas if this might be kdes fault?
23:29.36iqualfragileor is it due to X?
23:30.15svuorelaAristide: ok. hmm... something is wrong in the 'plasma ends' of things.
23:30.27Aristidesvuorela: But, http://paste.kde.org/p74a8fb09
23:30.32Aristideorg.kde.knotify
23:31.08AristideI have already try to delete all files related to plasma in my home directory :/
23:31.10svuorelaAristide: that's not surprising.
23:31.41svuorelakde's notification utilities talks to org.kde.knotify that tries to send it on to org.freedesktop.Notifications, and if that fails, knotify draws the grey boxes you see
23:31.57svuorelaqdbus org.kde.plasma-desktop | grep freedesktop/Notifications
23:32.23Aristideqdbus -qt4 org.kde.plasma-desktop | grep freedesktop/Notifications → Display nothing
23:32.47svuorelaok.
23:33.20svuorelalet's restart plasma-desktop.
23:33.27AristideI have already try x)
23:33.27svuorelakquitapp plasma-desktop ; plasma-desktop
23:33.32AristideI have this problem since many days
23:33.37AristideAfter trying KDE Active :x
23:33.45Aristide(So, Plasma Active has been uninstalled)
23:34.50svuorelaoh. I've no clue how that might mess things up.
23:35.05Aristide:/
23:36.03svuorelabut the issue is that plasma doesn't 'tell the world' that it can show notifications (availability of org.freedesktop.Notifications), and thus knotify draws them itself.
23:36.17svuorelaI think you need some more plasma capable people than me.
23:36.26AristideOk
23:36.32AristideThanks you for your help svuorela :)
23:36.38svuorelayou're welcome.
23:38.00lainlivesis it just my distro cutting stuff out, or does amarok no longer support themes
23:38.14lainlivesnor any usefull UI function at all
23:38.18AristideHm
23:38.24Aristidesvuorela: Install libnotify can resolve problem ? xD
23:38.27svuorelalainlives: what's your distro ?
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23:38.35lainlivesopensuse 13.1
23:38.36svuorelaAristide: not really no.
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23:38.54svuorelalainlives: I'd be surprised if suse would cut such things out, but haven't seen what they are up to
23:39.12lainliveshmm so amarok is just garbage now days?
23:39.22lainlivesgahhhhD: no good gnu music players left to try
23:39.41lainlivesbackto foobar2k
23:39.42svuorelalainlives: try talk with the people over in #amarok - and try avoid words like 'garbage'
23:40.04lainlivesi tried, no help there either ill just keep snooping though

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