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| 00:12.40 | lainlives | wel i think i found my solution finally |
| 00:12.42 | lainlives | clementine |
| 00:13.10 | [|] | oh my darling, oh my darling, oh my darling clementine |
| 00:16.25 | scummos | yeah clementine is rather good |
| 00:16.26 | scummos | ducks |
| 00:17.22 | lainlives | :( i wish i wasnt forced to a tree vew in amarok, because i love how its utilizing my system theme |
| 00:20.58 | valorie | there are alternatives to the sorting options |
| 00:21.10 | valorie | IN the options, I should say |
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| 00:23.18 | lainlives | yea but its all the tree view, which is the problem |
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| 00:24.09 | lainlives | oh well im sure clementine will work fine |
| 00:24.19 | valorie | they are good people |
| 00:25.23 | lainlives | it still has the what people know as the 'itunes layout' |
| 00:25.28 | LLKCKfan | Is there any natural ways to relieve pain without using herbs or weed? No drugs |
| 00:25.47 | valorie | LLKCKfan: not really the channel for such a question |
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| 01:47.13 | ezech | hi |
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| 01:59.43 | ezech | hi, I'm googling but probably doing it wrong - is there any widget that allows one-click turn off sleep mode/screen saver etc? |
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| 02:30.55 | lainlives | ezech: try making one, one like that should be rather simple with some samples |
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| 02:34.08 | ezech | lainlives: the sole reason to use huge and thorough DE's is that you don't need to glue features with home brewed solutions, no? :) |
| 02:34.35 | lainlives | well i dont doubt one exists, try kde-look.org |
| 02:34.52 | lainlives | im sure they will all require sudo to be properly configured |
| 02:36.09 | ezech | till now I found caffeine (not present in fedora20 repo for some reason) and shell scripts that pretend to move mouse around, the more sophisticated ones detect if flash is playing in full screen |
| 02:36.49 | ezech | I'll keep looking though |
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| 02:38.07 | lainlives | i hope he knows how to configure sudo, by default its broken on fedora |
| 02:38.16 | lainlives | most widgets like that require it xD |
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| 03:02.26 | Osleg | You can just untick "Enable power management" in battery widget |
| 03:03.32 | Osleg | also about "home brewed solution" |
| 03:03.57 | Osleg | entire KDE is more or less home brewed sollution, aint this is what open source about? :D |
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| 03:04.47 | thiago | it's not "home brewed" when you're using stuff from other people |
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| 03:05.42 | Osleg | thiago: aren't they "brew" it at home? O_O |
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| 03:05.57 | Osleg | also it was just as fun note ;) |
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| 04:33.26 | Dramors | I've been using terminator for a while and I gave konsole a go. I noticed that when I go on split view, the tabs are shared between the views |
| 04:33.32 | Dramors | Is that intended behaviour? |
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| 05:24.46 | valorie | ubuntu, or kubuntu? |
| 05:25.04 | valorie | I have kubuntu-restricted-extras on kub. |
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| 05:25.27 | valorie | not sure what the difference is between the two |
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| 12:12.55 | moviuro | To those using be::clock + colibri: where do you put both? I'm having some real trouble to get a not so intrusive clock and readable notifications x) |
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| 12:17.02 | haridas | Hi, I installed kup-daemon from the git repository. At the first time the configuration icon showed up on the kde control panel. I accedently un installed it. But after I installed and couldn't able to see the icon on the kde control panel ? |
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| 12:17.34 | haridas | Is I'm missing any thing here ? I doubt any cache or other thing, I restared the machine for that sake, but no use. |
| 12:17.51 | haridas | Any idea how to fix this issue ? |
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| 12:18.34 | moviuro | haridas: $ kbuildsycoca4 --incremental |
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| 12:19.08 | Sho_ | moviuro: --incremental is the default behavior |
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| 12:20.37 | BluesKaj | Howdy folks |
| 12:21.03 | moviuro | Sho_: oh, didn't know ^_^ does it depend on the version though ? |
| 12:21.49 | Sho_ | moviuro: not really |
| 12:22.03 | Sho_ | moviuro: there's --noincremental that you probably mixed things up with |
| 12:22.35 | haridas | moviuro: I tried that, but no help... "KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry x-scheme-handler/webcal in "/home/haridas/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon)." |
| 12:22.52 | Sho_ | the warnings are harmless |
| 12:22.54 | haridas | moviuro: that is the error |
| 12:23.50 | moviuro | haridas: well, can you see the thing you're looking for in $ kcmshell4 --list ? |
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| 12:25.37 | haridas | moviuro: Nope.. Itin't there "kup-daemon". I installed it from source. |
| 12:25.56 | haridas | moviuro: And I'm using debian unstable. |
| 12:26.38 | moviuro | haridas: it doesn't even exist on archlinux |
| 12:27.27 | moviuro | haridas: is it the backup thingy? |
| 12:27.51 | haridas | moviuro: Yes... |
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| 12:28.15 | haridas | moviuro: It's for backup... only via rsync.. now.. no bup support needed. |
| 12:28.19 | moviuro | haridas: can't you use Nepomuk? |
| 12:28.23 | moviuro | oh |
| 12:28.27 | moviuro | or cron? |
| 12:28.44 | moviuro | (I don't trust GUIs for critical things like backups, actually) |
| 12:29.10 | haridas | moviuro: I don't konw aout the Nepomuk Use case for backup the files into external HDD. IS that possible ? |
| 12:29.44 | haridas | moviuro: Cron thing is messy with setting it up and managing it for long term. |
| 12:29.47 | moviuro | haridas: I've got no clue x) (my backups are on a remote server and I use unison) |
| 12:30.04 | moviuro | */20 * * * * unison -auto -silent Documents |
| 12:30.10 | moviuro | not really messy :-/ |
| 12:30.13 | moviuro | ;) |
| 12:30.31 | moviuro | and KDE has a built-in cron manager |
| 12:31.12 | haridas | moviuro: That is the last option any way.. The cron :). I have to look in these options if the kup doesn't work for me. |
| 12:31.42 | moviuro | good luck... sorry I can't help with backups... I'm more use to snapshoting filesystems |
| 12:31.46 | moviuro | +d |
| 12:32.29 | haridas | moviuro: No problem... Got some inputs and it's helpful for me. Thank you. |
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| 14:15.15 | Linnak | Hi, Can someone explain how KDEwallet and klipper works? |
| 14:16.13 | scummos | that sounds like a pretty broad question |
| 14:16.15 | scummos | what do you want to know |
| 14:16.20 | Sho_ | Linnak: The two aren't related to each other |
| 14:16.29 | Linnak | Sho_, I know |
| 14:16.49 | Linnak | one is a clipboard and one is a password manager |
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| 14:17.21 | Linnak | scummos, I want to know how they work exactly |
| 14:17.29 | Sho_ | Linnak: OK, so on X11, you have three clipboard buffers by default, called PRIMARY, SECONDARY and CLIPBOARD |
| 14:17.43 | Linnak | Sho_, right |
| 14:18.21 | Sho_ | Linnak: In practice, most toolkits only use PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD; PRIMARY is set by mouse selection and pasted by middle-mouse, CLIPBOARD is used by GUI Cut/Copy/Paste actions and keyboard shortcuts |
| 14:18.40 | Sho_ | Linnak: Further on X11, the application you copy from is responsible for handing over the data when you paste |
| 14:18.55 | Sho_ | Linnak: That means when you quit an app you copied from before trying to paste, you can't paste anymore |
| 14:19.05 | Sho_ | Linnak: Papering over this problem is the primary reason Klipper exists |
| 14:19.38 | Sho_ | Linnak: Klipper watches for when a copy happens, and then takes over the data, so Klipper effectively becomes responsible for handing it over on paste, so the original app can quit at any time |
| 14:19.43 | Linnak | Sho_, So it's a safety tool in case you would loose your data because an app is closed |
| 14:20.01 | Sho_ | Linnak: On top of this core functionality, Klipper offers things like optionally synchronizing PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD, and a history of clipboard contents |
| 14:20.34 | Sho_ | Linnak: Yeah |
| 14:20.44 | Linnak | I've just tried it. This middle mouse feature is pretty handy |
| 14:21.03 | Sho_ | Yeah, though that also works without Klipper |
| 14:21.07 | Linnak | And what about KDEwallet |
| 14:21.28 | Sho_ | kwallet is a more complicated system that I don't quite have the energy to explain to a similar degree atm |
| 14:21.32 | Linnak | Sho_, Wow. I didn't know that :) |
| 14:21.48 | Sho_ | Well, my above explanation should help :) |
| 14:22.09 | Linnak | Sho_, Thank you. I'll ask kdewallet from someone else |
| 14:22.19 | Sho_ | note it's kwallet btw |
| 14:22.30 | Linnak | ok |
| 14:22.33 | Sho_ | and you could maybe check out techbase.kde.org and userbase.kde.org for some stuff |
| 14:22.50 | Linnak | Thank you |
| 14:23.13 | Sho_ | userbase tends to have handbook-like material and techbase more implementation stuff |
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| 14:24.58 | moviuro | Linnak: a feature I find really handy is QR/barcode generation from clipboard content in Klipper |
| 14:25.24 | moviuro | (for Klipper, I recommend you go through the settings and see what it can do) |
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| 14:25.29 | Sho_ | I actually don't use Klipper because I'm used to the stupid X11 behavior |
| 14:25.30 | scummos | (he's gone) |
| 14:25.47 | scummos | oh wow, I tried that accidentially for a week and ... no |
| 14:25.49 | scummos | it's super annoying |
| 14:26.02 | moviuro | eg, you can feed it with rules, so that when you select an IP address, a menu pops up with a list of actions, sucha as 'ping', 'whois'... |
| 14:26.07 | Sho_ | I reflexively compensate for it |
| 14:26.10 | scummos | :D |
| 14:26.38 | moviuro | crap, why do people leave so fast ? |
| 14:26.44 | moviuro | ^_^ |
| 14:26.51 | scummos | most people don't understand how irc works |
| 14:27.43 | moviuro | (espescially on #kde... how many people ask a question I know the answer to but disappear when I connect?...) |
| 14:27.58 | Sho_ | well he wasn't the usual hit-and-run case though, and thanked for the answers he got |
| 14:28.07 | Sho_ | so maybe he just had somewhere to go |
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| 14:29.12 | scummos | yeah, he was fine |
| 14:29.31 | scummos | just many people leave when they got their matter sorted instead of idling in the channel forever like *normal* people do ;) |
| 14:29.44 | Sho_ | weirdos |
| 14:29.45 | Sho_ | ;) |
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| 14:30.53 | Basstard` | I never liked pasting with the middle mouse-button. |
| 14:31.24 | Sho_ | Klipper isn't specifically related to middle-mouse paste in any way |
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| 14:35.25 | scummos | the middle-mouse thing is an X11 thing which predates klipper |
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| 14:38.21 | moviuro | Basstard`: IMO it is, with multiple desktops, one of the features that make anything else than Linux not usable |
| 14:38.50 | moviuro | (well, Linux & BSD) |
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| 14:39.05 | scummos | will this work on wayland, btw :D |
| 14:39.11 | scummos | one of my biggest concerns with wayland! |
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| 14:41.46 | Basstard` | moviuro: It's a security-issue. If you've got something sensitive copied and then accidently hit the middle mouse-button, maybe in IRC, then oops. (Also, Linux is a kernel.) |
| 14:41.48 | moviuro | scummos: if it doesn't, I hope klipper will still make it possible |
| 14:42.24 | moviuro | Basstard`: I know about the kernel, but... yeah... it's so hard to write GNU/Linux... ;) |
| 14:42.42 | scummos | this is actually X11 |
| 14:42.53 | scummos | so just write "X11" if you want to be correct ;) |
| 14:43.10 | moviuro | Basstard`: espescially for those security things, it is indeed dangerous... but it is so handy I can't think of it replaced/deprecated |
| 14:43.58 | moviuro | scummos: it comes together with a GNU/Linux or BSD environment, not Windope or OSX. So in the end, it is linked ;) |
| 14:44.32 | scummos | isn't there (incomplete) X11 implementations for those systems too? |
| 14:44.37 | scummos | also you don't have to use X11 on linux |
| 14:44.53 | scummos | in fact I guess > 95% of linux devices today do not run X11 |
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| 14:45.52 | moviuro | scummos: forgot a 'computer complete working environment' :) |
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| 14:46.21 | scummos | yeah, on the deskop I guess X11 and linux are pretty much equivalent today. |
| 14:46.26 | scummos | which hopefully changes soon |
| 14:46.53 | moviuro | doesn't quite get what is fundamentaly wrong with X11 though |
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| 15:00.23 | jdhore1 | How can i safely stop virtuoso? |
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| 15:03.31 | jdhore1 | Virtuoso's currently absolutely chewing through my disk, causing high I/O and causing everything to be super-slow |
| 15:04.47 | rdieter | jdhore1: nepomukctl stop |
| 15:04.52 | jdhore1 | thx |
| 15:05.23 | Basstard` | That just keeps making me sad. |
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| 15:07.42 | jdhore1 | rdieter: I rand that and it gave me this: http://dpaste.com/1596501/ |
| 15:08.29 | rdieter | jdhore1: sounds like you've bigger problems. :( |
| 15:08.42 | rdieter | maybe try also: kdeinit4 |
| 15:09.01 | rdieter | (and/or restart your session, seems you've upgraded recently, and things are a bit out of sync) |
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| 15:10.27 | jdhore1 | rdieter: I ran it as root, not my logged in user...whoops... |
| 15:10.36 | jdhore1 | rdieter: That stopped it though, thanks |
| 15:10.53 | moviuro | jdhore1: you can completely stop it using systemsettings |
| 15:10.58 | jdhore1 | any way i can turn all the nepomuk stuff off "permanently"? |
| 15:11.02 | moviuro | also, are you using a desktop or a laptop? |
| 15:11.06 | jdhore1 | deskotp |
| 15:11.11 | moviuro | hm |
| 15:11.38 | moviuro | systemsettings > desktop search > disable everything |
| 15:11.43 | jdhore1 | hmm |
| 15:11.56 | jdhore1 | I didn't see anything in systemsettings about desktop search |
| 15:12.01 | moviuro | (on my laptop, virtuso-t only runs when charging the PC, which is nice :D ) |
| 15:12.09 | moviuro | jdhore1: version of KDE? |
| 15:12.41 | jdhore1 | moviuro: 4.12.2 |
| 15:12.46 | moviuro | O_O |
| 15:13.05 | moviuro | strange |
| 15:13.12 | jdhore1 | Gentoo: We get new stuff fast :P |
| 15:13.53 | moviuro | sure but I don't understand why the entry was removed from systemsettings |
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| 15:15.10 | scummos | moviuro: I agree that it could probably be fixed |
| 15:15.15 | scummos | moviuro: but not without breaking compatibility |
| 15:16.57 | jdhore1 | moviuro: Apparently, the KCM for nepomuk is in a different package (at least in Gentoo) than the indexer and such |
| 15:17.37 | moviuro | pretty weird ^_^ |
| 15:17.38 | scummos | I'm surprised they don't split the kate settings dialog into its own package ._. |
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| 15:22.33 | moviuro | scummos: ask them on their channel ;) |
| 15:22.49 | scummos | no no I'm happy with not having anything to do with gentoo ;) |
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| 15:24.54 | [Enrico] | rofl |
| 15:25.22 | moviuro | "not having anything to do" |
| 15:25.30 | moviuro | sure |
| 15:25.35 | moviuro | ;) |
| 15:25.59 | [Enrico] | eheheh to gentoo defense I'll say it was a user fault not installing KDE the recommended way on gentoo |
| 15:26.16 | [Enrico] | installing just part of the kdebase stuff is possible, but indeed not recommended |
| 15:26.22 | [Enrico] | since you can have issue like this |
| 15:27.02 | jdhore1 | [Enrico]: I installed kde-meta :/ |
| 15:28.11 | [Enrico] | jdhore1: without semantic-desktop USE flag |
| 15:28.24 | [Enrico] | not recommended :) |
| 15:28.31 | [Enrico] | was even removed at some point |
| 15:29.08 | jdhore1 | ah |
| 15:29.09 | [Enrico] | but due to users protest was reintroduced afaik |
| 15:30.22 | [Enrico] | jdhore1: if you run equery depends kde-base/nepomuk you will see it is installed only when using such USE flag |
| 15:31.34 | jdhore1 | [Enrico]: Perhaps we (Gentoo and/or the KDE team) should document somewhere that USE="-semantic-desktop" is not recommended/unsupported. |
| 15:31.59 | jdhore1 | (By the KDE team, I mean the Gentoo KDE team, not upstream) |
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| 15:34.26 | [Enrico] | jdhore1: just to show I'm not saying nonsense http://dilfridge.blogspot.ie/2013/05/news-from-201305-gentoo-kde-team-meeting.html |
| 15:34.35 | [Enrico] | I don't know why it is still there to be honest |
| 15:34.49 | [Enrico] | but I guess it staied but nobody documented the risk :( |
| 15:35.36 | jdhore1 | [Enrico]: i totally believe you, i'm just saying, i'm a Gentoo dev and even I didn't know that.... |
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| 15:36.59 | [Enrico] | jdhore1: well probably it is just me out of date :) |
| 15:37.05 | [Enrico] | that post is old now |
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| 16:01.37 | moviuro | how can I have my mail in KMail checked non-stop... someon told me about server-side subsc |
| 16:02.03 | moviuro | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:10.08 | moviuro | okular eating 1GB RAM O_O |
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| 16:14.26 | [Enrico] | moviuro: you bought your ram to use it didn't you? ;) |
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| 18:52.33 | lainlives | how do i make my system stop highlighting every other list entry |
| 18:52.56 | moviuro | lainlives: that's not pretty clear |
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| 18:53.19 | lainlives | moviuro: ok, i use detail/list view in konqueror as my file browser, every other line is a different color |
| 18:53.22 | lainlives | amarok is the same way |
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| 18:53.50 | moviuro | lainlives: depends, in your color sheme, of the 'alternate background' color |
| 18:53.58 | lainlives | ah |
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| 18:54.00 | lainlives | thanks |
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| 18:54.11 | moviuro | lainlives: yw |
| 18:54.25 | moviuro | just give feedback if it was indeed the case ;) |
| 18:54.26 | lainlives | makes complete sense, how did i not realize this xD |
| 18:54.37 | lainlives | moviuro: had to be, i remember doing it on my last kde install |
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| 19:00.21 | lainlives | that fixed everything but amarok colorizing every other line |
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| 19:02.46 | moviuro | lainlives: amarok uses the 'focus' color IIRC... |
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| 19:04.09 | lainlives | ah |
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| 19:04.33 | lainlives | yea every other line being different color is really messing with my massive transparency project |
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| 19:16.37 | moviuro | lainlives: I had the same problem when using QtCurve with a transparent theme |
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| 20:10.08 | Juan | What's an acpi solution that can check for battery/ac state on boot and run commands accordingly? |
| 20:10.33 | moviuro | Juan: acpi -b |
| 20:11.09 | moviuro | but there is something integrated to KDE inside systemsettings > Power management |
| 20:11.24 | Juan | I've tried both that and the acpid daemon |
| 20:11.34 | Juan | problem is, they only seem to act when there's a change |
| 20:12.10 | Juan | I'd like to set the cpu freq governor and radeon dpm state on boot, given if it's battery or ac powered |
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| 20:12.37 | moviuro | ask your distro, Juan, it doesn't seem KDE related ;) |
| 20:12.48 | moviuro | +channel |
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| 20:13.14 | Juan | Will do, asking just in case anyone using KDE figured it out :) |
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| 20:21.05 | moviuro | Juan: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Acpid#Example_Events |
| 20:21.49 | Juan | moviuro, I used that guide and have it set up |
| 20:22.20 | Juan | The problem I have is, it doesn't apply until it detects a change |
| 20:22.28 | Juan | Say, I start the system on battery |
| 20:22.33 | Juan | It does nothing |
| 20:22.53 | Juan | But if I start on ac and unplug the battery, to say something |
| 20:22.54 | Juan | it does |
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| 20:23.47 | Juan | I think it listens for changes, but given there are no changes on boot, it does nothing |
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| 20:28.30 | rdieter | Juan: maybe parse the output of this? upower -d | grep on-battery |
| 20:29.45 | Juan | rdieter, that could work |
| 20:29.50 | Juan | Thanks |
| 20:30.36 | rdieter | or grok stuff under /sys/class/power_supply/AC and/or /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0 (which is what upower does essentially) |
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| 20:31.20 | rdieter | in particular, /sys/class/power_supply/AC/online |
| 20:31.42 | rdieter | if that is '1' or '0' |
| 20:32.09 | Juan | Yeah, I'm checking that, I will probably end up that road |
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| 20:46.34 | moviuro | KWin is a sooooo great WM! rules and keyboard shortcuts... wonderfull! |
| 20:46.48 | lainlives | plus the transparency |
| 20:46.53 | lainlives | THE EYECANDY! |
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| 20:48.57 | diegoviola | KWin is very nice indeed :) |
| 20:49.15 | diegoviola | the whole KDE environment is amazing |
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| 21:38.33 | moviuro | lainlives: transparency for me is not so much an eyecandy as a usefull tool to see which window has focus |
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| 22:04.25 | lainlives | moviuro: for me, i use window saturation |
| 22:04.34 | lainlives | i know whats active |
| 22:05.07 | moviuro | lainlives: well, I used to do the same thing but things are not as readable even with a low 'power' of the effect |
| 22:05.15 | moviuro | and my theme is already quite dark |
| 22:05.55 | lainlives | mine too, but fonts are green/red |
| 22:06.08 | lainlives | and if its not dark, its 100% transparent |
| 22:10.47 | moviuro | 100% transparent O_O |
| 22:10.54 | moviuro | bad idea IMO |
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| 22:11.12 | moviuro | I kept wanting some 'ghost' windows, but they don't exist yet |
| 22:11.22 | lainlives | moviuro: its pretty cool having parts of the window floating around |
| 22:12.43 | moviuro | giggles |
| 22:12.47 | moviuro | no |
| 22:12.49 | moviuro | ^_^ |
| 22:13.09 | moviuro | and how that, 'parts of the window' ? |
| 22:13.23 | moviuro | I don't get the idea |
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| 22:14.43 | lainlives | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25714451/snapshot1.png old screenshot, things werent quite as transparent yet, but you get the idea |
| 22:15.12 | moviuro | ah... a transparent theme... |
| 22:15.17 | moviuro | without blur ? O_O |
| 22:15.21 | lainlives | i hate blur |
| 22:15.23 | lainlives | so no blur |
| 22:15.24 | scummos | blur is a quite recent invention |
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| 22:15.45 | lainlives | actually when i used windows 7, i made the aero 100% transparent, then disabled the blur |
| 22:15.51 | lainlives | i really dont like it xD |
| 22:15.53 | moviuro | I couldn't use transparency without ^_^ I kept reading what was on the window beneath the focused one |
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| 22:16.05 | moviuro | scummos: 4.5 |
| 22:16.14 | moviuro | 'recent' :รพ |
| 22:16.22 | lainlives | im using 4.12 |
| 22:16.23 | scummos | hey, that's recent! |
| 22:16.34 | scummos | when you say "old screenshot" I think of kde 2 |
| 22:16.46 | moviuro | it was ages old when I used it for the first time on Mandriva 2010.2 ;) |
| 22:16.54 | lainlives | kde2 was first de i used |
| 22:17.07 | moviuro | wasn't even born, surely ;) |
| 22:17.25 | lainlives | i then went to gnome for a while until kde3 then to gnome after kde4 then back to kde after gnome3 |
| 22:17.53 | lainlives | plus icewm alot too, i used to use it on my laptops |
| 22:18.40 | moviuro | lainlives: I experienced a worse battery life on IceWM than on full KDE x) |
| 22:18.53 | lainlives | hmm |
| 22:18.58 | lainlives | your using KDE wrong then :P |
| 22:19.01 | scummos | :D |
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| 22:21.22 | moviuro | lainlives: nah, I wrote 'full' |
| 22:21.57 | moviuro | ie Nepomuk + kontact + Plasma + kwin + composing... + stuff + some nice stuff + some useful stuff |
| 22:22.13 | moviuro | that's it, gotta go ^_^ |
| 22:22.31 | moviuro | is falling asleep in front of his computer |
| 22:22.35 | moviuro | bye |
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| 23:34.49 | WickedSmoke | Man, the KMail Akonadi back-end is a bitch. Since the GUI doesn't manage the data anymore, has anyone tried to make an alternate back-end for more traditional file-base storage? |
| 23:35.31 | rdieter | WickedSmoke: not that I'm aware of |
| 23:35.57 | rdieter | WickedSmoke: other than using alternative akonadi backends that mysql, like sqlite or postgresql |
| 23:36.17 | rdieter | s/that mysql/than mysql/ |
| 23:36.39 | WickedSmoke | Another complaint from today: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/198081/ |
| 23:36.59 | rdieter | personally, I prefer light-weight sqlite on lower-powered devices |
| 23:38.04 | rdieter | offand, that article has some false premises already in the first paragraph, so its hard to take it seriously |
| 23:38.28 | tosky | just to be precise: akonadi has nothing to do with semantic desktop, and it's not a storage backend, it's a cache |
| 23:39.17 | rdieter | is shocked anyone would ever suggest disabling/removing kwallet, that boggles my senses |
| 23:39.36 | rdieter | credibility-- |
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| 23:40.04 | WickedSmoke | Sorry, rdieter, I'm a KMail user and I'm well aware of the akonadi problems. |
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| 23:40.56 | rdieter | just saying it's hard to take your linked article seriously |
| 23:41.21 | IkeKrull | akonadi and nepomuk are the first things i disable |
| 23:41.23 | rdieter | found it hard to get past all the inacuracies already in the first few minutes of reading it |
| 23:41.35 | lainlives | rdieter: i believe kwallet needs to be expanded upon for one |
| 23:41.54 | rdieter | lainlives: how is that relevant? |
| 23:42.02 | rdieter | (I agree, for what its worth) |
| 23:42.12 | WickedSmoke | I'm not here to convince anyone of the problems - they are there. I'm looking to see if anyone has started some alternative projects. |
| 23:42.18 | lainlives | its not really relavent but came to mind when you brougt it up rdieter |
| 23:42.49 | rdieter | WickedSmoke: ok, I mentioned what I know. take it or leave it. |
| 23:43.39 | rdieter | (sorry, that last bit was too passive/aggressive on my part, my apologies) |
| 23:43.54 | WickedSmoke | rdieter: No problem |
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| 23:58.29 | pietro10 | Hi. On KDE, all GTK+ apps except firefox-trunk for some reason are not rendering fonts properly, even though gtk[23]-engines-oxygen is set. How do I fix this? Thanks. |
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