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00:11.44lainlivesF41L: i guess thers no harm in asking
00:12.26F41LWell.. was trying to get google voice notifications to work, instead of the default texting app (for the android/kdeconnect what have you)
00:12.53lainlivesah, i wouldnt be of any help KDE connect works for what i  use it for
00:12.59lainliveshavent messed with it much
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01:38.18diegoviolaDebian went with systemd, what are your thoughts?
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02:45.20krabadorhi people, i used kde 4.12.2 , radeon driver, for a while, and now, after a reboot , i've that http://pastie.org/8724423
02:45.35krabadornow i've ever opengl error, if i try to set it ad kwin render
02:45.49krabadori don't touched xorg settings
02:46.35krabadorand i only set alt tab kwin effect
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02:59.18rmzelnickHi all
02:59.18gcibotrmzelnick, hey!
02:59.35zenguy_pcany project similar to this ? http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Socket+Sentry?content=122348
03:00.03zenguy_pci had to disable this just now after over a year of using it..
03:00.06rmzelnickWhy some people prefer using KDE with fluxbox?
03:00.17zenguy_pchigh cpu usage on socksent-service
03:01.31rmzelnickzenguy_pc: Were you answering to me?
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03:02.27demmkrabador: what mesa version?
03:03.05zenguy_pcrmzelnick:  nah
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03:46.34binaryhatim using 59/307/301/304 in tapping settings on my new laptop. its ok but tapping the keys in xvkbd is a little stif
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05:16.55mansoorHello friends
05:17.01mansoorI get error "Seems that your system has no keys suitable for encryption. Please set-up at least an encryption key, then try again."
05:17.05mansoorwhen i try to use wallet
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06:46.46cffHelp, my KDE doesn't want to open applications anymore, not even Dolphin, Settings ,etc what should I remove from ~/.kde ?
06:46.48cffI think something is corrupt there, as if I rename it to something else and start fresh it works
06:46.52cffi.e. login without the previous ~/.kde dir
06:48.31thiagodo you have a terminal open?
06:48.43cffthiago: yes
06:48.56cffI get access the ttys
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06:49.30thiagorun xdpyinfo there
06:49.32thiagodo you get info?
06:49.42thiagono need to paste, I just want to know if you can run it
06:51.53cffthiago: yes I can run it
06:51.59cffand there is output
06:52.02thiagoaok, run dolphin there
06:52.10thiagowhat do you see in the output?
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06:56.22cffhold on I'm in the wrong environment, seems like now I'm on the clean env, but I can't find the old ~/.kde, before boot I did this: mv ~/.kde kde but I can't find the kde dir
06:56.41cffthe "kde" dir is not in my $HOME :(
06:57.15cffstrange
06:58.17cffI haven't deleted it
06:58.35cffand I was logged in with the same user as the current one
06:58.47cff:O
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07:02.35cffAnyway its much faster now
07:02.53cffbut I need to recover some of settings from the previous kde dir, which doesn't exist
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07:11.03cffah, I was in the wrong dir
07:11.14cffwhen I did the moving
07:11.29cffthiago: let me reboot and do what you said with the old config
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07:21.56SudeepI am interested on development of kde as i have been using it for some time. I would love to get acquainted with the development.
07:22.13SudeepAre there any junior jobs i can work on?
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07:30.31cffthiago: can't reproduce the problem, I need to mention that before reboot it removed the xedgers nvidia packages and installed the packages from the Kubuntu repositories
07:30.46cffthiago: maybe that was the cause, crappy nvidia drivers
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08:41.49johrihi I wish to contribute to KDE can any one help me get started ?
08:42.29Guest4855728 days
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08:47.34Guest48557hungarian friends saved its your questions?
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08:50.23Fuzaidoes anyone know how to feed custom data to the bubblemon widget?  My google fu is failing me
08:50.35JucatoInquisitive: this might be a good read http://flossmanuals.net/kde-guide/
08:50.46FuzaiI assume KDE 4.x, the default that ships with Debian Wheezy
08:52.33FuzaiOr does anyone know of a widget that will allow me to read a value out of file and display it in text as a widget on the screen?
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08:55.28Jucatothere's a File Watcher widget
08:56.00Jucatoi haven't tried bubblemon so i really don't know the answer to that question
08:56.12Guest48557its ok
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09:05.51moviuroFuzai: conky ?
09:06.29FuzaiConky might be a good idea
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09:22.52moviuroFuzai: you only need some good Kwin rules (I uploaded them on kde-look.org IIRC)
09:23.27Fuzaii gave up and used file watcher.  It's good enough for what I want
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09:25.47cffGuest48557: what have you smoked today?
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09:27.59Jucatothat's enough Guest48557
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09:40.23FuzaiDoes anyone know of a toolbar dock replacement that can give me the same functionality as os/x's quick icon bar ( usually at the bottom of the screen )?
09:40.53Guest48557yes it is the rule
09:41.30JucatoGuest48557: last warning. also keep things in English.
09:41.52JucatoFuzai: nothing KDE-specific, but Cairo Dock seems to be popular.
09:42.03Guest48557next guest yes it si smoke
09:42.17Jucatoif you don't need parabolic zooming, you can just probably whip up your own with an icons only task manager
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09:42.46Fuzaii actually really liked the zoom feature of the dock
09:42.56Fuzaii'm weird like that, i also put mine on the left
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09:44.07Jucatoyeah some like it, some don't matter of taste :)
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09:47.42Fuzaiso cairo-dock relies on gtk to do it's thing, does anyone know of a qt native dock?
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09:50.18JackWinterhmm, i seem to remember a long time ago that chromium used to open up to the pages i had open before shutdown on the virtual desktops they were.  then there's been a a long period where they would all open on one desktop (the one that was active when shutting down), lately something has changed and sometimes they do open where they were, other times they open on completely different desktops..  suppose a work in progress.  what is somewhat of a pain at the
09:50.20JackWintermoment though, is that sometimes i start a new instance and it starts on some other desktop instead, or when dragging tabs i can't drop them on the window i want, and when i finally drop them, they end up on a completely unrelated desktop...  and ideas where to look?
09:51.05JackWinterfwiw, think it's just chromium that misbehaves, kde apps have been well behaved in this respect
09:51.59moviuroFuzai: fancy dock ?
09:53.47moviurodaisy ?
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10:11.20cairneso i accidently deleted something off my panel and all my widgets got moved around, but it wont let me put them back to where i had them
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10:12.44Jucatoyou might have removed the Task Manager widget
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13:29.56Peace-guys i am trying to connect to my ftp local server , with dolphin
13:30.08Peace-with chromium i can connect instead with dolphin no
13:30.17Peace-the server is on android device
13:31.11Peace-here what i got from dolphin http://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/12/plasma-desktopFv8102.png
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13:31.28Peace-and here chromium http://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/12/plasma-desktopds8102.png
13:32.08Peace-btw i copied and paste the url from chromium to dolphin so there was 6262 port
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13:41.36moviuroPeace just hit and ran!
13:46.35TaokiHi. Is the Grid Desktop type part of KDE by default at this day? My distribution (openSUSE) has it, but I remember noticing others don't
13:46.46TaokiWasn't sure what raw KDE is like
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13:52.29Sho_Taoki: it's been part of kdeplasma-addons for a few years
13:52.45TaokiAh, ok. So it is default then
13:52.55Sho_it's not the default containment
13:53.00TaokiWonder why Fedora didn't have it when I tried it about 1 year ago or so
13:53.13TaokiYeah, I mean as an option in the destkop properties at all
13:53.14Sho_Probably because you didn't install the kdeplasma-addons package on Fedora
13:53.26Taokiah, maybe
13:57.13moviuroSho_: plasma / Grid...? isn't only KWin's job ?
13:57.37Sho_moviuro: no, this is about a desktop containment that lets you arrange widgets on a grid
13:57.47moviurooh
13:57.49moviuromy bad
13:57.54moviurosorry :$
13:58.26moviurodoesn't use widgets anywhere else than on the dashboard
13:58.51moviurothough I used the grid desktop once it was available
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15:39.03moviurokwassel?
15:39.14scummosthat seems good
15:40.41cffah, I misspelled the Konversation :-)
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15:58.43Sho_cff: welcome to konvi then :)
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16:00.01svuorelaa new quest ?
16:00.16scummosguest, rather
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16:05.46IllusioneerHey, in some apps, when a notification is sent to the notifications plasmoid there are custom buttons, like with Kopete you can click "Chat" and it runs an app or you can enter a value for the bluetooth device.  How does kdialog do that?
16:06.06phobos_anomalyDid development suddenly quit half way through the 4.12 release?
16:06.25moviuroIllusioneer: Highlight me if you get an answer, please, this is interesting
16:06.40moviurophobos_anomaly: read about KDE5 devel ;)
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16:07.10moviuro(and 4.12 is the current, 4.12.2 got released not so long ago...)
16:08.12phobos_anomalymoviuro: It sure wasn't a full release since I have to substitute packages from 4.11 for missing packages on 4.12
16:08.56moviuroyou mean like KWin ?
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16:09.12phobos_anomalymoviuro: and a slew of others
16:09.40moviurowell, dev isn't adding any new features to KDE4, just polishing it, killing bugs...
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16:09.50mgraesslinphobos_anomaly: kde-workspace got frozen in 4.11
16:10.39Illusioneerwill do moviuro :)
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16:30.10IllusioneerJovie, the 1980's called, they want their TTS system back LOL
16:30.19IllusioneerI about jumped out of my chair when i tried it
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17:07.10axel_foleyI want to report a bug. I got the same bug as described here: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=225&t=109454
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17:07.56axel_foleyand here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314617     look at this pic: http://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=77611
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17:08.16axel_foleyI am using arch and updated today
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19:14.03_spm_DragetYou are fucking kidding me. Second time a _MINOR_ update fucked up my plasma config. I cannot fucking belive it. this should _NEVER_(!!!1!oneone) happen. Now it was 4.11.2 to 4.11.5 and my controlbar is gone (or invisible? No idea. And if… why is it evne possible to have a setup with no visible controlbar?)
19:16.05_spm_DragetIs there any way to list/manage running plasmoids in some way? Last time I had some invisble plasmoids causing issues - I could not solve the issue without wiping parts/my complete config.
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19:22.53Sho__spm_Draget: what's a controlbar?
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19:35.21rubin110I'm looking for a flat/minimal application stye theme that has a GTK3 counterpart, anyone have any suggestions?
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19:35.56rubin110I'm been using qtcurve for the last year, but so many apps are now in gtk3 mode, it looks obnoxious running them without an equivient theme.
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20:17.20Peace-:D help ? http://sprunge.us/JZec
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20:25.26moviuroPeace-: it is explicit enough... just add the line and try again?
20:30.32_spm_DragetSho_: taskbar
20:31.00Peace-moviuro: already tried http://wklej.org/id/1271106
20:31.24Peace-moviuro: i am on archlinux btw
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20:39.27moviurowhy would you compile, Peace-?... you're using abs?
20:39.38Peace-moviuro: yes
20:39.52Peace-moviuro: i just need to edit tooltips.cpp and then compile
20:40.00moviurooh
20:40.11moviurowell, ask on #archlinux?...
20:40.16Peace-asked
20:40.25moviuroI never really used abs, sorry :-/
20:41.09Peace-moviuro: They may come from kdelibs or such ,  Sigh kde
20:41.31Peace-everytime i aske to archlinux they say something about kde fault there is no way
20:41.44moviurocompile all KDE?... >:)
20:41.52Peace-lol
20:41.59moviuroyeah, people at #archlinux are not usually funny
20:42.29Peace-well :D i will use kubuntu 2 command line and you get dolphin compiled with your own modification
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20:43.39Peace-moviuro: :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZSnQb3BAeM this is dolphin with my stuff
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20:45.00moviuroi wonder why this isn't the default behavior, actually x)
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21:03.26JackWinterPeace-: not sure what you want to do, but if you want to use aur to build a package, then create a diff/patch and apply that in the package build.  or possibly create a -git version of the package that clones the source from a local git repo that has your changes
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21:05.30tjyouHi, I just installed manjaro kde in a vm, I am unalbe to find any doc/help to change the desktop wallpaper, I have gone through all the buttons in system settings, Googled for a solution with no luck
21:05.57ChemBrorightclick on desktop
21:05.58JackWinteri'm not sure about your error since i don't build kde, but probably it means that some dependencies are missing.  try building it with extra-x86_64_build or extra-i686-build from the package devtools.  it creates a chroot and makes sure that all dependencies get installed
21:06.17Peace-JackWinter: no no i can't compile dolphin in arch just that .
21:06.50tjyouok, I have done many google searches, and all say to right click, but there is NO option to change the desktop
21:07.13ChemBrosettings?
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21:08.00ChemBrolast item in the menu?
21:08.01tjyouI have been through the setting for awhile now, Please explain what setting I should be looking for
21:08.25ChemBroright-click, settings, last item in the right-click menu
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21:09.29krabadorarcheeeerrss!!!!!
21:13.11tjyouOK, found it, but it is vary missleading. I right clicked on the desktop, and chose "Folder Settings" and then it takes me to "Desktop Settings Plasma Desktop Shell" and this is not located in the "system settings" menu
21:14.44ChemBrowell, that might be because of the way how plasma works
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21:15.33tjyouChemBro, Thank you for your help
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21:44.07scummosyes the name of the configure button in that menu is very hideous
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23:09.03moviuroyou know what? The only missing thing to KDE now for the social medias, for my personnal usage, would be a G+ client. We've already got them all! Facebook in Akonadi, Twitter in Choqok... It is a pleasure to use a modern, connected Desktop!! Thanks to the devs!
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23:12.07Jucatomoviuro: unfortunately, if you've noticed, there are very few G+ clients. because Google still refuses to release API that could be used by third-parties. there's only API for reading/viewing posts, but not for making posts
23:12.15Jucatolong standing issue with G+
23:12.33moviuroJucato: oh, well that's unexpected from Google
23:14.06zoldyckI don't care about social stuff but I'm missing bug fixes in KDE PIM :)
23:14.25moviurozoldyck: I don't get that many actually
23:15.03moviuro(I have 7 mail collections, 2 google accounts, one FB accout...)
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23:15.21moviurooh, and btw, skrooge or kmymoney?
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23:20.49moviuroyou can still answer even later... my bouncer will report (but pleas, answer in PM, since else, the answer could get flooded)
23:21.06moviurothe question was: skrooge or kmymoney?
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23:53.05grepwoodhi everyone
23:53.22grepwoodI heard that KF5 will be making extensive use of systemd
23:53.47grepwoodis that true?
23:54.17JuanWhere did you hear that
23:55.07grepwooda little bird told me
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