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| 02:13.21 | Jamesr0id | Are there any other WM that can do minimized window previewing like kwin? For some reason I get bad tearing with kwin. Only WM I have this problem with. |
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| 02:15.21 | Captain_Crow | where are the desktop icon settings? |
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| 02:26.41 | Captain_Crow | how do i bring up the trash bin? |
| 02:27.05 | Ambience | Open the file browser, it should be in the side pane |
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| 02:35.25 | Captain_Crow | Ambience, is there a way to get those onto the desktop? i tried dragging them but that makes the icon disappear and puts weird symbols in the name |
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| 02:36.18 | Ambience | I believe there's a trashcan widget you can find in the normal widget pane. |
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| 04:44.11 | apb1963 | ksnapshot stopped working... any ideas how I can fix it? |
| 04:44.30 | thiago | does it start? |
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| 04:54.05 | apb1963 | thiago.... are you talking to me? |
| 04:54.10 | thiago | yes |
| 04:54.18 | apb1963 | no it doesn't |
| 04:54.22 | apb1963 | it brings up a web page |
| 04:54.26 | apb1963 | for ksnapshot |
| 04:54.35 | apb1963 | how it does that is baffling to me... but there you have it |
| 04:54.38 | thiago | open a shell and type: ksnapshot |
| 04:54.40 | thiago | what happens? |
| 04:55.11 | apb1963 | command not found |
| 04:55.14 | thiago | there you go |
| 04:55.21 | thiago | problem identified, solution evident |
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| 04:56.07 | apb1963 | apt-get install ksnapshot says: ksnapshot is already the newest version. |
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| 04:56.20 | apb1963 | So it's not quite solved yet :) |
| 04:57.10 | {|} | apb1963: so aptitude purge ksnapshot && aptitude install ksnapshot |
| 04:58.17 | apb1963 | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 04:58.17 | apb1963 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.26 | apb1963 | And therein lies the problem |
| 04:59.09 | apb1963 | Removing the desktop in order to remove a simple utility seems a bit rash |
| 04:59.40 | apb1963 | some might go so far as to say... insane |
| 04:59.40 | {|} | oh, kubuntu... yes, that is a problem. |
| 04:59.50 | thiago | ask it to reinstall the package |
| 05:00.01 | thiago | you're not removing the desktop |
| 05:00.35 | apb1963 | thiago, I'm not following. I did apt-get purge ksnapshot.... it responded by telling me it was going to remove the desktop too. |
| 05:09.12 | thiago | anyway, simply ask the package manager to reinstall |
| 05:09.53 | {|} | apb1963: kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage if I remember right. It doesn't take the whole thing with it. |
| 05:09.56 | {|} | besides, aptitude has something like reinstall or --reinstall |
| 05:10.16 | {|} | according to the online man page, one can do something like this apt-get --reinstall install PackageNameHere |
| 05:10.37 | apb1963 | hmm |
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| 05:14.09 | apb1963 | you're the man! |
| 05:14.12 | apb1963 | Or.... maybe the woman |
| 05:14.17 | apb1963 | or a dog |
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| 05:14.27 | apb1963 | but regardless... it worked :) |
| 05:14.36 | apb1963 | Thank you!! |
| 05:14.54 | apb1963 | So how come nobody in #ubuntu or #kubuntu knows this? |
| 05:15.13 | {|} | apb1963: Poor community? |
| 05:15.34 | apb1963 | No comment :) |
| 05:15.50 | {|} | :) |
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| 05:17.54 | apb1963 | ok that was strange |
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| 07:27.00 | cousin_luigi | Greetings. |
| 07:27.44 | cousin_luigi | installed a distro update on his suse 13.1 and now the kde system tray icons aren't centered anymore. |
| 07:28.05 | moviuro | would like cousin_luigi to explain 'centered' |
| 07:28.16 | cousin_luigi | https://i.imgur.com/6cJMgHx.jpg <- kwin was one of the updated packages. Whom should I complain to? |
| 07:29.08 | mgraesslin | not kwin |
| 07:29.25 | moviuro | cousin_luigi: did you try resizing your panel ? |
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| 07:29.43 | moviuro | doesn't care about alignment since a very, very long time... |
| 07:29.44 | cousin_luigi | moviuro: yes, no change |
| 07:29.58 | moviuro | cousin_luigi: removing, adding systray back ? |
| 07:29.59 | cousin_luigi | moviuro: although the problem is of course mitigated with a smaller panel |
| 07:30.08 | cousin_luigi | moviuro: trying now |
| 07:30.17 | moviuro | and with a new user ? |
| 07:33.35 | cousin_luigi | I'm not sure how to remove the system tray... |
| 07:34.05 | moviuro | cousin_luigi: unlock the widgets, click the cashew on the panel |
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| 07:34.27 | moviuro | hover the systray and a toolbox will pop over it |
| 07:34.36 | moviuro | click the cross |
| 07:34.38 | cousin_luigi | ok, no change |
| 07:34.52 | cousin_luigi | I will create another user and try that now. |
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| 07:39.32 | cousin_luigi | moviuro: https://i.imgur.com/OwHtklU.jpg <- with a new user icons are realigned like this |
| 07:39.55 | cousin_luigi | How can I replicate this behaviour? |
| 07:40.15 | moviuro | cousin_luigi: have a higher panel |
| 07:40.23 | moviuro | well, I suppose |
| 07:40.53 | moviuro | (I only have a really thin panel, so never tied with something this HUGE) ;) |
| 07:41.02 | cousin_luigi | moviuro: no, those icons don't move on my profile |
| 07:41.13 | cousin_luigi | I don't use a panel that large either, it was as example. |
| 07:41.30 | moviuro | ah, well I really don't have a clue |
| 07:41.46 | cousin_luigi | mgraesslin: Do you? |
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| 07:42.50 | cousin_luigi | I guess resetting my profile is an option:/ |
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| 07:46.01 | moviuro | yes, but, well a bit extreme IMO |
| 07:46.23 | cousin_luigi | Yes, but I have no idea how else to address this. |
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| 07:49.48 | moviuro | cousin_luigi: try removing the panel ? |
| 07:49.54 | moviuro | and adding a new one ? |
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| 07:58.44 | cousin_luigi | moviuro: Will try that. |
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| 08:57.30 | nagerst | How much performance penalty (if any) is there to using the gtk2 style in qt applications? |
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| 09:17.55 | OnkelTem | Hi |
| 09:18.02 | OnkelTem | I've got into ZOOM mode. How to EXIT from it? |
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| 09:20.56 | crucerucalin | OnkelTem: in what program ? try F11 or ctrl+shift+f |
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| 09:21.17 | OnkelTem | Ah, I found the combination which disables this. |
| 09:21.22 | OnkelTem | It is Meta+0 |
| 09:21.29 | scummos | that must be easy to find ._. |
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| 09:21.43 | scummos | probably Ctrl+Alt+F12 works too, which disables all effects |
| 09:21.49 | scummos | er, Shift+Alt+F12 |
| 09:22.24 | OnkelTem | Well, I satisfied with default effects. Everything works very fast. It's odd, but KDE works much faster then Gnome |
| 09:22.43 | OnkelTem | I used to be Gnome user for years until they completly broken it |
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| 09:23.33 | OnkelTem | in Ubuntu 13.10 for example. I tried. I was scared. |
| 09:24.00 | OnkelTem | what's the world coming to? |
| 09:24.02 | OnkelTem | :) |
| 09:25.39 | OnkelTem | And KDE is the last stop, before I end my journey into rich desktop environments and return to fluxbox or similar |
| 09:25.47 | OnkelTem | haha |
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| 09:28.21 | Marquel | OnkelTem: they decided they'd go on the microsoft way which is basically "we know what you don't know, don't need to know and never will know" - which means: going from barely administratable to unusable ;) |
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| 09:31.24 | moviuro | Marquel: there are some good points in this. E.g. LaTeX is built around this principle |
| 09:31.32 | moviuro | (for a very good reason though) |
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| 09:33.32 | OnkelTem | Marquel: lets be honest, we can still administer Gnome. But for this one probably need to finish some courses about digging into they 'registry'. And this is the problem: even miminal configuration is done after some time of googling |
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| 09:34.03 | OnkelTem | Even turning Address bar in Nautilus - is the matter of manual gconf2 tweaking |
| 09:34.06 | Marquel | moviuro: agreed, yet in TeX i still can do anything i want and just can go to latex if i don't want to bother myself with all the details. in gnome - when i click on its version of systemsettings it's precisely because i want to do that and not to learn that they've hidden all the options. |
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| 09:37.48 | OnkelTem | Marquel: but not everything is configurable. In my particulat case the last drop was removed keyboard layout configuration so I couldn't configure locale Ru/En switching to my favorite Caps/Caps Shift |
| 09:38.22 | OnkelTem | Marquel: this wouldn't be a big problem if I could do this using xkb. But they managed to break that too! |
| 09:39.28 | Marquel | OnkelTem: as i said: going from "barely manageable to unusable". |
| 09:39.33 | OnkelTem | yep |
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| 10:46.17 | nagerst | How much performance penalty (if any) is there to using the gtk2 style in qt applications? |
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| 11:43.31 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 12:07.37 | eklavya | hi guys, how to have multiple monitors with different virtual desktops? |
| 12:07.44 | eklavya | this link provides some info http://www.maketecheasier.com/use-kde-plasma-activities/ |
| 12:07.59 | eklavya | but that option is no longer present in kde 4.11, I am on kubuntu 13.10 |
| 12:08.30 | eklavya | this -> |
| 12:08.32 | eklavya | Open System Settings |
| 12:08.32 | eklavya | Under “Hardware” click “Display and Monitor” |
| 12:08.32 | eklavya | Click the “Multiple Monitors” icon |
| 12:08.32 | eklavya | Check “Enable multiple monitor virtual desktop support” |
| 12:08.42 | eklavya | this option is no longer present |
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| 12:18.16 | eklavya | any help guys? |
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| 13:03.56 | koshie | Hey |
| 13:04.48 | koshie | My girlfriend is using KDE 4.8.4 on Debian stable and she've a problem. The time is configured in UTC (which is one hour late from our hour) and if I change it in the configuration of the clock it changes nothing... |
| 13:05.02 | koshie | I've tried several times, reboot... |
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| 13:18.45 | Worf | koshie: i think the best approach is to configure the timezone globally for the system. you might need to figure out how to do that for your distribution. debian based for example works with: dpk-reconfigure tzdata |
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| 13:19.28 | Worf | koshie: and to avoid troubles with some other OS a lot of people dualboot to: you usually can configure the other OS to use UTC too |
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| 13:40.55 | moviuro | koshie: it is a distro specific issue IMO, you'll get a faster and better answer in #debian IMO |
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| 13:51.30 | testi | Hi |
| 13:51.32 | testi | How do I start the "account assistant" in Kontact? |
| 13:52.52 | testi | I'd like to configure mykolab |
| 13:54.20 | testi | and it's installation guide says that I have to start the "account assistant", but it doesn't say how I invoke it. I heard by default a unconfigured Kontact invokes "account assistant" the first time you launch Kontact, but I can't find a way to start the "Account Assistant" after Kontact has already been configured. |
| 13:55.12 | testi | There is a "Account Wizard" in kmail, but I guess this is not quite the same, right? |
| 13:55.41 | testi | I use KDE 4.8.4 |
| 14:00.25 | moviuro | testi: use Akonadi Configuration |
| 14:00.33 | moviuro | testi: Alt+F2 'akonadi' |
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| 14:01.00 | moviuro | should give you 'Akonadi Configuration' |
| 14:01.05 | moviuro | us that tool to add a collection |
| 14:01.13 | moviuro | *use |
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| 14:03.42 | testi | moviuro: I can add "Kolab Groupware Server" in akonadi, but it doesn't require me to do any configuration |
| 14:04.14 | Peace- | i can't undestand one thing, i have 1 webcam with microphone and the default audio card, how can i set kde and pulse to use webcam's mic instead of the standard mic? |
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| 14:04.33 | moviuro | testi: you're sure kontact has kolab support in 4.8.4? IIRC it's pretty recent (although it was perhaps about an other thing kolab-related) |
| 14:04.52 | cousin_luigi | moviuro: 08:49:48 < moviuro> cousin_luigi: try removing the panel ? |
| 14:04.54 | cousin_luigi | 08:49:54 < moviuro> and adding a new one ? |
| 14:04.55 | cousin_luigi | moviuro: no dice |
| 14:05.21 | moviuro | cousin_luigi: then, I don't have any ideas, sorry :/ |
| 14:05.24 | Peace- | i tried to move up and down here but it doesn't work http://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/18/plasma-desktopS25595.png |
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| 14:07.00 | testi | moviuro: The tutorials don't mention any particular version. Do you have a clue how I can figure out if 4.8.4 is recent enough? |
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| 14:07.28 | moviuro | testi: except ask google? No, sorry, I don't have a clue :-/ |
| 14:10.22 | testi | I can't craft a query to google which precisely answers the question, but my interpretation of the results I get is that any version of KDE4 should be fine. |
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| 14:10.45 | ice9 | hi rdieter_work |
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| 14:12.43 | moviuro | cousin_luigi: If i resize the panel i have, the systray gets put in row, icons stay more or less in shape |
| 14:12.50 | moviuro | kde 4.12.2 (archlinux) |
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| 14:13.48 | cousin_luigi | moviuro: it used to work for me until yesterday |
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| 14:13.53 | cousin_luigi | then some update broke it |
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| 14:16.03 | koshie | moviuro: maybe, thanks (to Worf too) |
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| 14:40.47 | miri_ | i have a problem when i maximize a window, it goes under the bottom taskbar: http://i.imgur.com/ercI1ob.png (kde 4.12.1, kubuntu 13.10) |
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| 14:44.44 | Jucato | there's a setting for the panel that windows can go below. at the right end of the panel, click on the bean-looking icon, then select more settings |
| 14:45.07 | Jucato | (if the icon isn't there, right-click on the panel first and then Unlock Widgets) |
| 14:45.10 | miri_ | Jucato: thanks that was it! |
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| 16:45.48 | cousin_luigi | http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kde-workspace.git&a=commitdiff&h=c4b22caae66c2af26276c4c842fde82e883f0af4 <- WTH is this for? I reverted the change in main.qml but now all tray icons are small. |
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| 17:06.38 | Fisiu | hi |
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| 17:07.18 | Fisiu | I enabled mail indexing in nepomuk recently but full text searching in kmail doesn't work for me |
| 17:07.32 | Fisiu | version 4.12.2 |
| 17:07.45 | Fisiu | I get "Cannot get search result. Unable to create persistent search" |
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| 17:17.06 | Nohus | Hello, I'm trying yo find out where wallpaper settings are stored, because grep returns many results in many files. Anyone knows? |
| 17:17.13 | Nohus | to* |
| 17:18.20 | moviuro | Nohus: why would you want to touch the config by hand? .kde4/share/config/plasma$SOMETHING surely |
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| 17:21.37 | Nohus | moviuro: Because, for some reason, my wallpaper always resets back to default after restart. :| I want to take a look at it. Thanks. |
| 17:22.26 | moviuro | plasma-desktoprc Nohus |
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| 17:26.34 | Nohus | moviuro: There is nothing there about wallpaper. There however are some settings in plasma-desktop-appletsrc, not sure. |
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| 17:28.32 | AndrzejL | http://i1.kwejk.pl/site_media/obrazki/2014/02/7b6906f33bee3e788a89c615628edfa4_original.png?1392729942 apply cold ice packets to a burning area... |
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| 17:41.04 | Nohus | Turns out I have wallpaper settings set almost 300 times in one file... that could be the problem. |
| 17:42.03 | ezra-s | Nohus, which file? |
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| 17:43.28 | ezra-s | Nohus, which path if I may ask? |
| 17:43.36 | ezra-s | nevermind,found it |
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| 18:52.46 | wget | Hi guys. I'm trying to register on identity.kde.org. After I received my email and clicked on the link, the system ask me for a username, but imposes me some predefined names. Can I change my username after that? |
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| 18:58.21 | wget | ping anyone? (see question asked above)^ |
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| 18:58.47 | sombragris | hi there... is there a specific channel where I can ask KMail2 questions? thanks |
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| 18:59.14 | wget | sombragris: I think there isn't any specific channel to KMail, Kcontact. |
| 18:59.21 | wget | Ask here maybe others can help. |
| 18:59.55 | cousin_luigi | sombragris: You won't get any reply on the #kontact |
| 18:59.58 | cousin_luigi | channel |
| 19:00.15 | wget | cousin_luigi: Regarding my question now ;-) ^ |
| 19:00.35 | sombragris | wget: thanks |
| 19:00.40 | cousin_luigi | wget: No idea, I switched to thunderbird like 8 years ago. |
| 19:01.01 | sombragris | does anyone know how can I export a KMail2 folder to mbox ? |
| 19:01.19 | sombragris | I'm trying to migrate to claws-mail |
| 19:01.21 | cousin_luigi | uhm |
| 19:01.23 | sombragris | (long story here...) |
| 19:01.26 | {|} | cousin_luigi: hmmm, I switched away from anything mozilla based about 10 years ago. |
| 19:01.39 | cousin_luigi | {|}: anything that floats your boat:) |
| 19:01.42 | wget | cousin_luigi: Hum. I think you haven't read my question. :D |
| 19:01.42 | wget | "(19:52:46) wget: Hi guys. I'm trying to register on identity.kde.org. After I received my email and clicked on the link, the system ask me for a username, but imposes me some predefined names. Can I change my username after that?" |
| 19:01.53 | cousin_luigi | wget: Sorry, wrong nick :) |
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| 19:02.03 | cousin_luigi | I was thinking of kmail. |
| 19:02.13 | cousin_luigi | I can't remember how I migrated my data. |
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| 19:03.21 | cousin_luigi | I wonder in what format kmail exports it. |
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| 19:03.32 | cousin_luigi | Perhaps one could write a script for that. |
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| 19:04.17 | Nohus | cousin_luigi: http://xkcd.com/1319/ |
| 19:05.03 | cousin_luigi | :D |
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| 20:39.19 | fairc | paste.kde.org doesn't work in the pastebin applet |
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| 20:53.57 | AndrzejL | guys tell me - does udisks2 has its irc channel? |
| 20:54.47 | AndrzejL | or maybe some other way of contacting those guys? |
| 20:55.38 | AndrzejL | I have this issue: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=176294 |
| 20:55.49 | AndrzejL | I was able to narrow it down to udisks2 |
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| 21:15.23 | thiago | AndrzejL: they have a mailing list |
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| 21:46.54 | cousin_luigi | How can I use the screen zoom when an application is running in full screen mode? |
| 21:47.03 | rdieter_work | AndrzejL: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/udisks/ |
| 21:47.11 | alextai | I am trying to switch to kscreen, followed by qtbus manipulation and seems that kscreen is working, but there is still some randrmodule parts in configuration dialog (Size & Orientation) - how this randr module parts can be removed? |
| 21:47.53 | rdieter_work | alextai: depends how you installed kde (or depends on your distro) |
| 21:48.01 | alextai | rdieter_work: gentoo |
| 21:48.11 | rdieter_work | then ask them |
| 21:48.35 | alextai | hm... ok... just thought it is related to kde |
| 21:48.52 | rdieter_work | it is, but it's the distro's job to help ensure all the pieces fit and work together |
| 21:49.24 | rdieter_work | in this case, the krandr bits from kde-workspace are deprecated (essentially) by kscreen |
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| 21:49.40 | AndrzejL | thiago and rdieter_work thank You for the info - turns out it may not be udisks2 but gvfs... |
| 21:50.55 | rdieter_work | alextai: in short, when using kscreen, you want to omit building/installing the stuff from kde-workspace/kcontrol/randr too |
| 21:52.06 | alextai | rdieter_work: thank you - will look for information about that |
| 21:52.22 | alextai | kscreen still masked as unstable in gentoo ... |
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| 22:36.30 | acerspyro | I have some design idea to show the team, where should I post them? |
| 22:36.54 | acerspyro | KDE dev team |
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| 22:40.00 | moviuro | acerspyro: http://vdesign.kde.org/index.html perhaps ? |
| 22:40.10 | acerspyro | maybe |
| 22:40.17 | acerspyro | yup |
| 22:40.28 | Jucato | also http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=119587 |
| 22:40.39 | acerspyro | Jucato: thanks |
| 22:40.49 | Jucato | (but best to get familiar with the visual design group first) |
| 22:41.02 | acerspyro | I had a really nice UI idea for the taskbar today at school. :P |
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| 22:48.11 | wxl | hey folks, which file does one have to edit to lock widgets? i know you can do it through the gui but i really need to script this pre-login |
| 22:49.07 | wxl | i thought it was ./kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc but it doesn't seem to change |
| 22:49.10 | scummos | I don't know but I'd start looking in ~/.kde4/share/config |
| 22:49.17 | scummos | ah, ok then |
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| 22:50.25 | wxl | it's also odd that when it's locked that file has 5 lines iconsLocked=false |
| 22:50.30 | wxl | which seems, erm, counterintuitive |
| 22:51.33 | scummos | does it even change before you quit plasma? it's also certainly not read in again after plasma's startup |
| 22:52.09 | scummos | if you even want a chance it'll react to you changing the file, then quit plasma, then change the file, and then restart it |
| 22:52.31 | wxl | hm that seems a bit surprising |
| 22:52.41 | scummos | why? |
| 22:52.42 | wxl | any other changes i have mad before have been immediately committed to file |
| 22:52.45 | wxl | made |
| 22:53.03 | wxl | i've found lots of configuration settings this way |
| 22:53.03 | scummos | ok -- try making one of those changes |
| 22:53.11 | scummos | maybe it updates the locked then too |
| 22:53.18 | wxl | hm |
| 22:53.35 | scummos | as far as I know it only updates it when the code explicitly calls sync(), which possibly happens for lots of things but not for lock/unlock |
| 22:53.53 | wxl | ah so that may be it then |
| 22:53.58 | wxl | thanks for the insight |
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| 22:55.16 | wxl | is there a command line utility i can use to sync outside of restart? |
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| 22:59.35 | scummos | wxl: maybe through dbus |
| 22:59.42 | scummos | I don't know |
| 23:00.21 | scummos | but probably not, and certainly not in the other direction (i.e. re-read config data), unless of course plasma itself provides that |
| 23:00.23 | scummos | KConfig certainly doesn't |
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| 23:01.00 | tekzilla | is there maybe some kind of plugin API for Konsole to intercept stdin/out ? |
| 23:01.34 | nfk | i think i looged out too quickly after loging in and activity manager went completely bonkers |
| 23:01.43 | scummos | tekzilla: why not use shell redirection |
| 23:02.15 | scummos | wxl: use qdbusviewer and click through the interfaces, maybe you find something ;P |
| 23:02.32 | nfk | logging in now takes a long time and all activities seem to be lost and even if i define new, those are lost upon next logon anyway and it again takes super long |
| 23:02.47 | wxl | scummos: thx |
| 23:02.52 | tekzilla | scummos: i want to build something to prevent myself from typing "halt" or something on a remote shell |
| 23:03.16 | nfk | tekzilla, alias it to something else |
| 23:03.22 | scummos | alias "halt" to "echo 'Stop, you fool!'" on the remote machine |
| 23:03.37 | tekzilla | yeah sure, but on every remote machine.. |
| 23:03.50 | nfk | you have a bunch of them? |
| 23:03.56 | nfk | then just use KDE on your main one |
| 23:04.05 | nfk | so that you never type halt on your normal box |
| 23:04.10 | nfk | that should fix your bad habbit |
| 23:04.13 | tekzilla | i just liked the idea of having to do nothing to the remote machines |
| 23:04.15 | scummos | :D |
| 23:04.25 | scummos | anyways I don't think it's possible |
| 23:04.32 | scummos | konsole doesn't really know what command you will execute |
| 23:04.42 | tekzilla | no but i knows what i type |
| 23:04.46 | nfk | more importantly, activity manager |
| 23:04.52 | tekzilla | and it could just not pass it to ssh |
| 23:04.53 | nfk | i feel like yelling at someone |
| 23:04.54 | scummos | it knows what keys you press |
| 23:05.01 | scummos | not what you type |
| 23:05.16 | tekzilla | but its probably overcomplicated.. |
| 23:05.38 | scummos | e.g. when you previously typed halt and recall the command with up-arrow |
| 23:05.47 | scummos | then you effectively type up-arrow, but still run halt |
| 23:06.04 | scummos | I can come up with a thousand other cases where you don't actually type "h a l t" in that order |
| 23:06.12 | tekzilla | well ok but that couldnt happen if i never typed halt :) |
| 23:06.29 | scummos | it was just an illustration of the problem ;) |
| 23:06.31 | tekzilla | but its not a bad point |
| 23:06.48 | scummos | you could also use backspace somewhere, or arrow keys, or Pos1 or End |
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| 23:14.10 | nfk | honestly, at this point i don't give a damn if i have to recreate my custom plasma desktop, someone just tell me what files to delete to reset everything but nepomuk |
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| 23:14.22 | nfk | and konsole configuration |
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| 23:15.25 | nfk | and if no one answers within few minutes, i'll just do it blindly |
| 23:16.24 | scummos | nfk: ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma* sounds like a good start |
| 23:16.30 | scummos | but don't remove anything, only rename it |
| 23:16.46 | nfk | i have git |
| 23:16.55 | nfk | i have tried deleting, checking out, etc |
| 23:16.58 | nfk | nothing works with this shit |
| 23:17.13 | nfk | it seems there's some interrelation between plasma and activity manager |
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| 23:17.37 | nfk | and worse of all activity manager seems to be broken beyond my help |
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| 23:22.37 | scummos | nfk: you can try moving everything away and then moving things back bit by bit |
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| 23:25.16 | nfk | that's certainly going to break |
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| 23:25.22 | nfk | this is kde4 we are talking about |
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| 23:35.51 | scummos | nfk: why would that break |
| 23:36.10 | scummos | in the beginning nothing is there so moving everything away certainly won't break |
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| 23:42.15 | nfk | scummos, i mean the moving back gradually part |
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| 23:49.43 | nfk | bleh, didn't work |
| 23:50.01 | nfk | the last question is, does nepomuk backup restore work in 4.12? |
| 23:50.29 | nfk | i tried in summer 2013 when Nepomuk lost it's DB and the shit was unusably buggy |
| 23:50.37 | nfk | +it |
| 23:51.08 | nfk | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:53.19 | moviuro | nfk: as a workaround, can't you use tar + xz or rsync? (I never trusted any GUI in backup-ing) |
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| 23:56.56 | krabador | only this |
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| 23:57.24 | krabador | let kwin works properly with opengl 2.0/3.1 and raster/native |
| 23:57.52 | moviuro | nfk: tar cvf - /home/$(whoami) | xz -9 - > /tmp/$(whoami)_$(date +%F).tar.xz |
| 23:58.17 | krabador | on kernel 3.12.9 radeon 7.3 kde 4.12.2 |
| 23:58.56 | moviuro | krabador: I don't have your luck and am stuck with XRender... |
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| 23:59.42 | krabador | moviuro, launch it from terminale |
| 23:59.46 | krabador | and it works |
| 23:59.51 | moviuro | krabador: you've got arch, right? |
| 23:59.57 | krabador | yes |
| 23:59.57 | moviuro | ie, krabador? |
