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00:42.59 | wingnut2626 | Hey my kde keeps showing me notifications that updates are available, but i cant for the life of me figure out how to update the packages. Any help? |
00:45.30 | Lyrek | You see the update shield in taskbar? |
00:45.40 | Lyrek | clicky clicky on it |
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00:47.44 | wingnut2626 | thats the thing the shield is not there |
00:48.34 | Lyrek | Distro? |
00:48.40 | wingnut2626 | debian |
00:48.46 | DaZ | can't you just use your package manager :v |
00:48.56 | wingnut2626 | it was a command line distro, and i installed the desktop manually |
00:48.59 | wingnut2626 | no. |
00:49.09 | DaZ | wat. |
00:49.15 | wingnut2626 | apt-get update/upgrade goes through, but there are still notifications for updates in kde |
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00:50.14 | Lyrek | Don't know. |
00:50.37 | wingnut2626 | ok. im probably missing a utility 'kupdate' or some #hit |
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00:50.44 | wingnut2626 | ill dig around |
00:52.46 | wingnut2626 | oh i think i figured it out |
00:53.08 | Lyrek | das is good |
00:53.20 | wingnut2626 | yeah brb going to check into the theory |
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00:56.11 | jacky | which packages is it asking to upgrade? |
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04:30.56 | cjae | whoever made maximized windows be able to be moved to another screen without having to first minimize them (rclick -> move)---thank you so much :-) |
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04:39.07 | DaZ | wut |
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06:23.08 | holden87 | <PROTECTED> |
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06:34.44 | holden87 | anyone? |
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06:37.54 | valorie | holden87: for instance? |
06:38.08 | valorie | I mean, have you tried a site with such a cert? |
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06:39.43 | holden87 | Yes. my online bank. |
06:41.21 | holden87 | I had to change the settings for the bank to recognize konqueror as chrome, but i need my CA cert to access my profile |
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06:42.39 | valorie | holden87: probably lots of problems with certs today and for the next few days |
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06:43.10 | valorie | because the sysadmins are having to revoke and get new ones because of heartbleed |
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08:20.54 | DarthDepa | Hi guys! :) I'm looking for package "kiosktool" on Ubuntu 13.10... |
08:21.01 | DarthDepa | But I can't found it! |
08:22.20 | valorie | DarthDepa: as I recall, it's been deprecated |
08:22.26 | valorie | no maintainer |
08:22.29 | valorie | :( |
08:22.33 | DarthDepa | OMG! |
08:22.38 | DarthDepa | So I can't download it?? |
08:22.39 | valorie | you might find a deb |
08:23.16 | valorie | search on debian.org |
08:26.21 | DarthDepa | Might be contained in "kde-icons-mono, openclipart-png, openclipart-svg"? |
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08:46.16 | K1Hedayati | why konsole does not recognize Monaco font? |
08:46.50 | K1Hedayati | Konsole doesn't even offer Monaco as a possible font (it doesn't think it's a monospace font, but this is a known bug), https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7127212/bold-xft-fonts-in-xresources |
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09:35.37 | Jupelius | Hey! How can I check/modify the way Konsole handles URLs? |
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09:48.54 | Jupelius | Got it! |
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10:23.47 | kLeZ-hAcK | hi all, I have a problem with konqueror not loading pages at all, can anyone help me? |
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10:28.53 | Ardonik | kLeZ-hAcK: See question #1 here: https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc |
10:29.02 | shalokshalom | kLeZ-hAcK: konqueror is outdated |
10:29.06 | Ardonik | We're waiting for you to ask your real question. |
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10:29.38 | shalokshalom | i recommend Qupzilla instead (qt5 ready, ) |
10:29.39 | Ardonik | shalokshalom: If you say so. Works fine loading modern pages for me, like any webkit-enabled browser. |
10:29.56 | shalokshalom | Ardonik: Each Page ? |
10:29.59 | Fudus | What error message are you getting? |
10:30.01 | kLeZ-hAcK | ok, I'm sorry Ardonik, I'll pay more attentio |
10:30.15 | Ardonik | shalokshalom: Yeah. Each page. I use it for online banking, so it's good enough. |
10:30.22 | kLeZ-hAcK | I use konqueror 4.11.5 |
10:30.35 | Ardonik | kLeZ-hAcK: It's okay. Just ask your real question! |
10:30.38 | kLeZ-hAcK | I use webkit to render pages |
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10:31.18 | kLeZ-hAcK | but I cannot load any page, or better, pages claim to be loaded but they are all blank pages |
10:31.33 | kLeZ-hAcK | I cannot figure out how to solve this question |
10:32.00 | Ardonik | kLeZ-hAcK: You're still being quite vague. Precisely what happens when you enter http://google.com into your browser, for instance? |
10:32.08 | Ardonik | Be precise. |
10:32.50 | kLeZ-hAcK | it redirects the url to http://www.google.it/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=QHNGU8iWIeba8gee1oDYCw |
10:33.00 | kLeZ-hAcK | but I still see a white page |
10:33.31 | Ardonik | A white page? How could you get a successful redirection response and yet not receive a response? |
10:34.03 | Ardonik | What do you see when you view the source of the final rendered page? |
10:34.18 | kLeZ-hAcK | I don't know, but I thought it can be referred to webkit engine because I can load (ugly) pages with khtml |
10:34.23 | Ardonik | Also, now's the time to tell us if there are any special network issues in your environment, like a proxy server. |
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10:34.57 | moviuro_ | kLeZ-hAcK: does it work in an other navigator? |
10:35.05 | moviuro_ | (browser) |
10:35.18 | kLeZ-hAcK | Yep, I can use firefox without any problem |
10:35.33 | kLeZ-hAcK | rekonq, if it can be useful has the same issue |
10:36.19 | moviuro_ | kLeZ-hAcK: any weird settings in systemsettings > network settings ? |
10:36.25 | Ardonik | kLeZ-hAcK: (A) Do you have a proxy server or any other thing specific to your local network which affects web browsing? (B) What do you see when you view the source of the so-called blank pages? |
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10:37.37 | kLeZ-hAcK | (A): No, I navigate in open internet, I'm at home; (B): I see the page source, that I think it's completely downloaded |
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10:38.20 | kLeZ-hAcK | @moviuro_: no I don't have any weird settings |
10:38.32 | Ardonik | We're obviously not going to be able to reproduce your problem--konqueror works for all of us. So there's something in your environment which is different that you have not told us yet. |
10:39.14 | Ardonik | Let's try a different angle: when did konqueror work last, and what changed since it worked? |
10:39.49 | kLeZ-hAcK | Konqueror never worked for my actual distro configuration |
10:40.14 | Ardonik | Yet Firefox did, right out of the box, without you having done anything to it? |
10:40.28 | kLeZ-hAcK | Yes |
10:40.33 | Ardonik | Are you SURE konqueror really downloaded the page source? |
10:40.45 | Ardonik | Cause it sure sounds like konqueror is seeing a different HTTP proxy than Firefox is. |
10:40.55 | Fudus | If rekonq doesn't display either, sounds like webkit is missing? He mentioned that Konq worked in KHTML mode |
10:41.19 | Ardonik | Mayhap. But then wouldn't there be an error message? |
10:41.23 | kLeZ-hAcK | @Fudus: yes, in khtml mode I can render pages |
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10:42.35 | moviuro_ | He wouldn't be able to install rekonq without webkit, and not able to select webkit rendering in Konqueror if it wasn't installed |
10:42.42 | Fudus | Is kwebkitpart installed? (it is only a recommends) |
10:42.59 | Fudus | So if he installed it without recommends it won't come in |
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10:43.26 | Ardonik | I think there are aspects of kLeZ-hAcK's story which are missing. I'm not familiar with this behavior he insinuates to be occurring. |
10:43.27 | kLeZ-hAcK | @Fudus: how can I check if kwebkitpart is installed? |
10:44.21 | Fudus | rpm -qi kwebkitpart |
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10:45.30 | kLeZ-hAcK | @Fudus: you're right, I need to check packages, but I use gentoo, so "eix kwebkit" |
10:45.42 | kLeZ-hAcK | @Fudus: ... and yes, it's installed |
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10:48.28 | Ardonik | kLeZ-hAcK: Since you're on Gentoo, did you do anything "special" to install Konqueror particularly? |
10:48.47 | Ardonik | Is there a standard way to install it correctly, with all dependencies? I know nothing of Gentoo. |
10:49.10 | Ardonik | You have to look for the one thing you did to your system that no one else did to theirs. I am grasping at straws here. |
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10:50.26 | kLeZ-hAcK | No @Ardonik I installed it with default use flags (read it as: default distro configuration) |
10:50.54 | kLeZ-hAcK | yes there is a standard way to do that, I used it |
10:50.56 | Ardonik | Then I have nothing else to suggest. I can't help until I know more about what you did differently. |
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10:51.36 | Fudus | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330279 apparently known bug on gentoo? |
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10:52.53 | Ardonik | Fudus: The bug doesn't really give us much more information, either! In particular, no one's confirmed it yet. |
10:54.03 | kLeZ-hAcK | Seems that this bug cannot be my bug, if fact it points out on khtml |
10:54.17 | Ardonik | shrugs |
10:54.48 | kLeZ-hAcK | Could you tell me how to collect informations for you about this problem? |
10:55.25 | Ardonik | Not really. I am not at your computer and I can't see what makes it different. |
10:55.34 | kLeZ-hAcK | If it can help, I had that problem even on openSuSE |
10:55.37 | Ardonik | You're the one who's going to have to find that out, I'm afraid. |
10:56.05 | Ardonik | I am not having that problem on Mageia. I don't think it's a distro issue; the distro packages test their packages before pushing them out. |
10:56.19 | Ardonik | Distro *packagers*, sorry. |
10:57.08 | kLeZ-hAcK | ok but, what I have to find out? I mean, there are log files, conf files or other things I can check to figure out what's happening? |
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10:59.07 | Ardonik | I don't know what sorts of log files konqueror has. |
11:00.13 | Ardonik | You could (and keep in mind that this is drastic) log out, back up your ~/.kde4 directory tree by moving it out, then log back into KDE4 to get a "fresh" Konqueror, but! |
11:00.28 | Ardonik | You claimed it never worked, even when "fresh". That is not normal. |
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11:01.16 | Ardonik | Just stick with KHTML until you can figure this one out, I guess. |
11:01.51 | kLeZ-hAcK | so I don't have any way to figure out why it is happening |
11:01.53 | kLeZ-hAcK | ? |
11:02.02 | Ardonik | You do, but Ardonik on IRC can't suggest it. |
11:02.15 | Ardonik | He's out of ideas. |
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11:03.35 | Jupelius | It seems I didn't solve my problem after all. Anyone has any idea what this "Transferring" window is when I open URLs from Konsole? |
11:03.51 | kLeZ-hAcK | Ok, I tried to activate debug information with kdebugdialog, if I can catch some debug logs that make sense I will post you, thanks anyway |
11:04.09 | Ardonik | Sure thing. Sorry I couldn't be of further assistance. |
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11:08.05 | kLeZ-hAcK | guys, do this log make any sense for you? konqueror(17991) KDEPrivate::blockRequest: *** REQUEST BLOCKED: URL QUrl( "http://www.google.it/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=QXtGU6yXOM_a8geuwoD4CQ" ) RULE "*" |
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11:10.53 | kLeZ-hAcK | I find out what that mean, AdBlock filters used to block all the pages... but why it is not working as expected? |
11:10.55 | Ardonik | kLeZ-hAcK: Maybe. Visit Tolls -> Adblock -> Configure filters. Do you have an agressive filter there? |
11:11.19 | Ardonik | s/Tolls/Tools/ |
11:11.21 | kLeZ-hAcK | I only use "Corset" filter set |
11:11.25 | Ardonik | Remove it. |
11:11.58 | kLeZ-hAcK | Removing the adblock support, makes both konqueror and rekonq work as expected |
11:12.08 | Ardonik | sighs in relief. |
11:12.23 | Ardonik | It was your adblock filters the whole time. I should have asked about those. |
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11:12.33 | Ardonik | Ah well; lesson learned! |
11:12.43 | Ardonik | kdepepo: You have GOT to fix your connection. |
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11:13.33 | Ardonik | kLeZ-hAcK: I guess I would expected there to be an icon or some indication that the whole page was blocked. But clearly, since you didn't notice, there was no obvious indicator. |
11:13.46 | Ardonik | That's not a good thing. |
11:13.53 | Ardonik | But what's up with that "Corset" filterset? |
11:15.06 | kLeZ-hAcK | Yeah you can tell that, I really don't know, now I'm trying different filtersets, seems that EasyList is working for the websites I use to visit, but it is a weird issue |
11:15.47 | kLeZ-hAcK | Nothing has noticed that the page was blocked, unless the too generic debug log I posted previously |
11:16.36 | Ardonik | EasyList is what I use for Firefox, too. |
11:17.13 | kLeZ-hAcK | Yep, seems to work as good as one would expect |
11:17.49 | kLeZ-hAcK | Maybe I can file a feature request on a block notification for adblock part? |
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11:17.57 | Ardonik | I guess we could have found the problem straight away by running konqueror from the terminal or checking ~/.xsession-errors. |
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11:18.41 | Ardonik | kLeZ-hAcK: That sounds very reasonable to me, and you have a reproduction recipe too (using the Corset filterset.) |
11:19.03 | kLeZ-hAcK | Oh well, I read that log because running it from the terminal, and activated kdebugdialog |
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11:19.20 | kLeZ-hAcK | ok I will file a feature request ;) thanks Ardonik |
11:19.43 | Ardonik | Thanks for the followup, kLeZ-hAcK. We both learned something today. |
11:20.02 | kLeZ-hAcK | I have to go now, bye ;) |
11:20.19 | Ardonik | waves |
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11:39.41 | Cymew | So, why on earth doesn't chrome play any sounds on the sound device I have selected in kde? |
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11:58.24 | moviuro_ | Cymew: can you repeat on chromium, firefox, rekonq? |
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12:08.36 | Aiena | Cymew does it play ausdio on everything else ? |
12:09.35 | Aiena | maybe for chromium that specific apps volume is zero pulse allows per app app volume control and that is normally default unless you alter kmix's settings to expose only one volume slider and never touch others |
12:09.48 | Aiena | *audio |
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12:13.35 | Cymew | it works just as bad in firefox |
12:14.19 | Cymew | mpv can, e.g. play a flv file which plays in the headphones I have configured kde to use, the browsers do not |
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12:15.09 | Cymew | "internal audio" seems to be the only sound device that browsers can acceess |
12:15.14 | Cymew | weird |
12:16.27 | Cymew | same thing with konqueror |
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12:16.37 | Cymew | I know flash suck, but this is silly |
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12:18.09 | Cymew | And an mp3 in chrome also ignores the kde settings, which means it's not flash, but the browser that is acting up |
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12:47.54 | octocpp | Is there a place to get new cool screensavers? I seem to have the same savers for the last 10 years. |
12:49.42 | rdieter | octocpp: http://kde-apps.org/index.php?xcontentmode=30 (screensaver portion of kde-apps.org). but yeah, not a *lot* going on there |
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14:13.24 | moviuro_ | I misclicked and deleted the Dark pastel konsole color-scheme. Could someone send it to me? |
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14:17.07 | moviuro_ | hmmm, actually, darkPastel simply doesn't appear in the list, however, the file does exist |
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16:47.10 | lineinthesand | Is it possible to open the kwallet automatically on login? |
16:48.17 | PasNox | lineinthesand: in auto start program ? |
16:48.23 | PasNox | there is systemsettings for thatr |
16:49.02 | lineinthesand | PasNox, I mean opening the wallet itself, not only the program |
16:49.34 | PasNox | lineinthesand: well opening the application will open the wallet too |
16:50.10 | lineinthesand | What I really mean is: opening it without having to enter the password. |
16:50.28 | PasNox | no way |
16:50.36 | PasNox | but u cen set null password to your wallet |
16:50.39 | PasNox | can* |
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16:50.45 | PasNox | it's what i do on my system |
16:50.48 | lineinthesand | PasNox, really? |
16:50.51 | PasNox | so i never have to enter password |
16:51.03 | PasNox | my computer is not confidential so i'm not thinking about security |
16:51.06 | PasNox | lineinthesand: really. |
16:51.23 | lineinthesand | PasNox, thank you, I'll immediately try that |
16:51.27 | PasNox | np |
16:51.55 | PasNox | lineinthesand: remember anybody accessing your computer will be able to check your wallet without permissions |
16:52.06 | PasNox | if it's ok for you... :) |
16:52.17 | BluesKaj | nothing in my wallet :) |
16:52.23 | PasNox | :D |
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16:53.12 | lineinthesand | PasNox, yes, I know. |
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17:08.18 | rdieter | lineinthesand: PasNox's suggestion is currently the only option, kde-4.13 will include initial support for pam-kwallet, (similar to gnome-keyring-pam), that auto-open's kwallet using your login password |
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17:19.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | yay, 8GB RAM used by nepomuk. `date; free; nepomukctl restart; sleep 5; free; date` - I should get an alias for that. Or use ulimit, but *where* exactly? |
17:21.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | IOW what the heck *does* `nepomukctl restart` |
17:22.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | *of course* no manpage for anything nepomuk* |
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17:22.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | pretty windows'y |
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17:22.58 | moviuro_ | DocScrutinizer05: you do have a memory leak. it uses < 20MB mem here |
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17:23.11 | moviuro_ | DocScrutinizer05: BTW, which process exactly? |
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17:27.13 | moviuro_ | DocScrutinizer05: nvm, my virtuoso is broken: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7231679/ |
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17:30.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems your HDD is broken |
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17:30.33 | lineinthesand | rdieter, thanks for the information! |
17:30.48 | scummos | DocScrutinizer05: should report a bu |
17:30.49 | scummos | g |
17:31.02 | scummos | or wait, probably not ;) |
17:31.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | Apr 10 19:23:55 schizophrenia kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 37404030 |
17:32.31 | scummos | yup that means something is severely wrong |
17:33.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | my HDD and SSD is OK ;-) |
17:33.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | thus virtuoso-t happily skyrockets its RAM usage |
17:34.05 | moviuro_ | is a "Pechvogel"... I changed this disk not 2 years ago :'( |
17:34.23 | scummos | what disk is it? |
17:34.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | I restarded it a "few lines up" - already again at 1.1GB and growing, at a rate of 2MB/s |
17:34.53 | scummos | turn it off |
17:35.01 | moviuro_ | scummos: just a 320GB HDD, with my linux on it (linux on BTRFS over LUKS) |
17:35.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | then kmail blows chunks |
17:35.12 | scummos | kmail 4.13 doesn't ;) |
17:35.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | so they told me |
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17:36.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'll happily nuke that nepomuk troll once kmail4.13 gets available in a non-experimental version for my system |
17:36.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly just to find other severe flaws introduced with that new kmail version |
17:36.59 | scummos | for me it works better |
17:37.39 | moviuro_ | DocScrutinizer05: I don't have the memory leak on my other computer |
17:37.55 | scummos | most people haven't ;) |
17:38.07 | moviuro_ | scummos: that's a good news ;) |
17:38.19 | moviuro_ | though I have a Plasma one |
17:38.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, maybe you don't have 170000 mails in your kmail (when you use kmail at all) |
17:38.33 | moviuro_ | (from 20MB to 500....) |
17:38.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | though I marked most dirs as "don't fulltext index" |
17:38.47 | moviuro_ | DocScrutinizer05: no, I keep it < 3000 |
17:39.39 | moviuro_ | DocScrutinizer05: nvm, I'm at ~ 9000 |
17:39.48 | moviuro_ | (imap) |
17:39.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | and maybe you don't have 8 mail accounts which get polled every 3 minutes |
17:40.22 | moviuro_ | only 6 accounts every 5 minutes |
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17:40.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | and no complex filters with mail moving around between folders |
17:40.47 | moviuro_ | DocScrutinizer05: can't you do that on the imap servers ? |
17:40.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | nope |
17:41.00 | moviuro_ | hmmm... that's too bad |
17:41.12 | moviuro_ | has no rules in KMail |
17:41.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't keep my sensitive mail on servers, you know? ;-) |
17:41.37 | scummos | you receive them directly on your desktop computer or what :D |
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17:41.46 | moviuro_ | not really easy if you want to take a look at your mails from anything else than your computer |
17:41.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | I trust my own PC more than a shoddy mailserver, with SSL ;-P |
17:42.13 | scummos | if it was on the server at some point it doesn't really matter anyways ... |
17:43.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | also you ever tried to create a new mail account in your client, to an IMAP account that has some 30000 mails stored on it? Good luck! you better get a *crate* of beer to not get bored until you finally can *use* that account for anything |
17:44.10 | scummos | welcome to 2014 |
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17:44.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | of course this doesn't apply to you when you never planned to read your mails e.g. in airplane |
17:45.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I survived ~4 incidents where servers got rooted, and I had no headache about my mails tampered with |
17:46.10 | scummos | maybe you should think about a better server ;D |
17:46.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | I still use POP3 wherever possible, instead of this glorified webmailer protocol IMAP |
17:47.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe I don't need to think about web.de's servers, or any of the other accounts I use |
17:47.46 | scummos | if you want to keep email safe, end-to-end encryption is sort of your only choice imo |
17:47.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not running my own mail provider service, you know? |
17:47.59 | scummos | everything else is maybe a bit useful but mostly snake oil |
17:48.04 | scummos | especially then that applies ;) |
17:48.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure sure sure sure |
17:48.24 | moviuro_ | DocScrutinizer05: end to end encryption is just using GnuPG |
17:48.50 | moviuro_ | but running your own mail server can also do the trick |
17:48.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | so what? teaching me about GPG now? not needed, thanks! |
17:49.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | I simply fetch my mails from server, and delete them there. KTNXBYE |
17:49.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | then use grep when I get bored by nepomuk - FTW |
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17:52.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually I find it quite amusing how devels - when confronted with their sw cocking up - start arguing my usage patterns |
17:53.44 | moviuro_ | is no dev |
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17:57.46 | scummos | isn't a kmail developer either |
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18:28.34 | linux_ | Hi |
18:28.54 | linux_ | ID 2001:3c15 D-Link Corp. DWA-140 RangeBooster N Adapter(rev.B3) [Ralink RT5372] |
18:29.19 | linux_ | I cannot connect with that device.. |
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18:31.18 | moviuro_ | linux_: which distro / KDE version? what does it mean you cannot connect? The network manager fails or the authentication fails?... |
18:32.42 | linux_ | moviuro_: opensuse 13.1, and its KDE The drive is correctly installed I think it is something related to KDE or opensuse.. |
18:33.42 | moviuro_ | most likely a distro specific issue. Did you successfully ever connect to WiFi using the given device? |
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18:35.29 | linux_ | moviuro_: under opensusde 12.1 I can connect.. it using the same drivers.. |
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19:21.34 | brallan | Hi! Is it possible to add certain domain to show html instead of plain text in KMail? |
19:22.03 | scummos | ^ I'd be interested in that too |
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19:42.56 | melkor | I'm using kubuntu 14.04 and after the latest updates kdewallet doesn't doesn't recognize my password. Instead it says error 42 and asks for my password again. |
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19:45.24 | cb400f | melkor: (re)move the kwallet data, or try a new user, to see if your system is broken, or you just forgot the password ;-) |
19:45.38 | cb400f | doesn't think 14.04 is officially released yet |
19:45.47 | melkor | It isn't officially released. |
19:46.01 | melkor | Do you know what error 42 is? |
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19:52.04 | melkor | Is there a way to disable baloo? |
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20:00.44 | melkor | Thanks for the info. I deleted my old wallet, maybe kde won't forget the new password. |
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20:09.28 | michaelrose | just wondering something its pretty common for me at least and I think a lot of people to switch from using speakers to headphones relatively regularly, although it is cool for some use cases to be able to put different things on different devices probably 95% of people just use one at a time |
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20:10.24 | michaelrose | so its a common activity when changing to do the following process, click on kmix applet, select audio tab change default device, select mixer settings and make the new device the default mixer so the audio keys do the right thing, |
20:10.41 | michaelrose | then select the tab for existing streams and right click and move them all over |
20:10.55 | michaelrose | this is probably the stupidest thing in kde |
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20:11.39 | michaelrose | I wonder why in 2014 there isn't a simpler way to switch between devices |
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20:12.20 | michaelrose | especially when it is so trivial to do in a script http://xsnippet.org/359886/ |
20:12.38 | scummos | yes it's not a good workflow |
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20:12.41 | scummos | it annoys me too |
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20:12.52 | scummos | esp. since it doesn't seem to remember the default audio device sometimes |
20:13.06 | scummos | and makes the volume keys control the HDMI audio output which I never used |
20:13.33 | michaelrose | I have bound the script above to one keypress, it cycles through available sound devices moves everything to them and makes them the default |
20:13.55 | michaelrose | also sets an environmental variable called $default_sink |
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20:14.31 | michaelrose | then bind volume keys to use pactl to change the volume of $default_sink |
20:14.49 | scummos | yes, it sounds useful |
20:14.53 | scummos | but tbh I'm just too lazy to set that up :D |
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20:15.22 | michaelrose | scummos, http://xkcd.com/1205/ |
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20:16.08 | scummos | hm, according to that scale it would probably be worth it within a year or two ;) |
20:16.34 | michaelrose | depends on how often you switch audio outputs |
20:16.46 | scummos | maybe once a day |
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20:16.55 | michaelrose | personally since 99% of the script was already written on the internet it took me 2 minutes to set up |
20:18.10 | michaelrose | in kde you would want to use xbindkeys to bind scripts to buttons |
20:18.31 | michaelrose | it i3 you just add it to your existing config in 2 seconds |
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20:20.35 | OnkelTem | hi all |
20:20.44 | OnkelTem | how to autodetect keyboard? |
20:20.51 | scummos | autodetect keyboard? |
20:21.00 | OnkelTem | yes |
20:21.21 | OnkelTem | like it happens during installation on *buntu |
20:21.31 | scummos | what do you mean by "autodetect"? |
20:21.34 | kfunk | keyboard *layout*, I guess |
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20:21.48 | OnkelTem | keyboard model |
20:22.00 | OnkelTem | and layout yes |
20:22.23 | OnkelTem | i purchased apple keyboard and dunno what i should select |
20:24.18 | scummos | didn't even know it was possible for software to detect keyboard layouts |
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20:46.05 | OnkelTem | wonders if scummos ever installed linux |
20:46.32 | scummos | not ubuntu ;) |
20:46.32 | OnkelTem | of course the software doesn't request from keyboard - hey, who are you |
20:46.56 | OnkelTem | it uses some heuristic |
20:47.05 | OnkelTem | asks to type some letter or something |
20:47.08 | scummos | yeah exactly, I wouldn't know how the software should have a heuristic to find out what stickers are on my keyboard |
20:47.11 | scummos | ah well, that would work. |
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20:47.49 | OnkelTem | i just have no idea what keyboard model should i select to get all keys working |
20:48.02 | OnkelTem | for example i have volume keys |
20:48.15 | kdesperate | Help needed! When my laptop tuns on it goes asleep just before kdm shows and I have to close the lid and reopen it to enter username and passoword. When I turn off it it goes asleep and turns off only after a key is pressed... what happens? |
20:48.16 | scummos | not sure if those are related to the keyboard layout |
20:48.27 | scummos | you can try pressing them in xev |
20:48.35 | scummos | if they show up you can probably just bind them to something |
20:49.31 | OnkelTem | scummos: yeah, of course, but that would be pretty difficult comparing to just selecting correct model ;) |
20:50.05 | scummos | I didn't know that affects the volume keys |
20:50.14 | scummos | but I don't know how keyboards work so |
20:51.22 | OnkelTem | well, i have a laptop macbookpro 2011 with ubuntu 13.04 on it, it successfuly detected keyboard and volume and other similar keys work |
20:51.42 | scummos | try pressing the keys in xev and see what happens |
20:52.15 | OnkelTem | but there I have Gnome and I don't know do KDE and Gnome using same approach in working with keyboards |
20:52.22 | OnkelTem | ok i'll try |
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20:54.23 | OnkelTem | google suddenly helped |
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21:30.11 | Lyrek | LLKCKfan: a wee bit off topic lol |
21:30.34 | LLKCKfan | There are no channel for it |
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21:48.24 | moviuro_ | LLKCKfan: ask on the off-topics channel of your favorite distros ;) |
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22:55.21 | Rocco_- | hello people |
22:55.34 | Rocco_- | first time using the KDE |
22:55.40 | Rocco_- | desktop.. |
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23:14.40 | kde__pepo | Ardonik, it looks like my provider played with their systems. I counted 73 reconnects within the last 24 hours. |
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23:23.28 | watermind | baloo lets you exclude dirs, but it should also let you exclude certain files |
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23:24.36 | watermind | e.g. latex compilation files, such as .aux .toc .log ... |
23:25.11 | watermind | it's enough to index and extract metadata from my texs |
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